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     1. 01:34 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (John Bickham)
     2. 03:31 AM - John Williamson Autobiography (Louis Buckley)
     3. 05:29 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (Russ Kinne)
     4. 05:40 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (David Key)
     5. 06:12 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (robert bean)
     6. 08:12 AM - Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon- Update (Ken Korenek)
     7. 09:17 AM - John Williamson (Arksey@aol.com)
     8. 09:45 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (Ralph B)
     9. 11:16 AM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (cristalclear13)
    10. 12:06 PM - Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (Bob Dalton)
    11. 02:52 PM - John Williamson (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
    12. 03:06 PM - Re: John Williamson (cristalclear13)
    13. 07:03 PM - john williamson (boyd)
    14. 07:47 PM - Re: Re: John Williamson (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    15. 07:59 PM - Re: 4 stroke in a kolb (Mark)
    16. 09:02 PM - Re: John Williamson (Larry Cottrell)
    17. 09:31 PM - Re: Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon (Wayne McCullough)
    18. 10:33 PM - Re: John Williamson (TheWanderingWench)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      
      There is no way words can say what should be said.  There are so many people that
      John W touched in such a positive way.  I was just a small, small part of John's
      great life and I am very thankful for those precious times.
      
      John was a great aviator and an even greater person.
      
      My thoughts and prayers are with John's family and close friends.
      
      --------
      Thanks too much,
      
      John Bickham
      Mark III-C w/ 912UL
      St. Francisville, LA
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184825#184825
      
      
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| Subject:  | John Williamson Autobiography | 
      
      
      Indeed we have lost a good friend.  He was quite a guy.  As a reminder 
      has is a biographic sketch:
      
       Biography
      John A. Williamson
      I was born August 1, 1949 in Lewiston, ID and grew up in the Northwest. 
      I call my hometown, Orofino, ID and
      enlisted in the U.S. Army for Warrant Officer Flight Training shortly 
      after graduating from Orofino High School.
      I served in the U.S. Army at the ranks of El, E5 and Warrant Officer 
      (Grades One through Four) from August
      1968 until retirement on 1 September 1989 as a CW4. Trained as a pilot, 
      I got to serve in several capacities:
       Pilot, Instructor Pilot and Instrument Flight Examiner flying 
      Beechcraft U-21A multiengine airplanes.
      Flight time: 1,338
       Pilot, Instructor Pilot and Instrument Flight Examiner flying Bell 
      AH-1G, AH-1S(MOD, PROD, ECAS,and
      FM), UH-1(A, B, D, H and M) and OH-58A helicopters. Flight time: 4,519
       Held positions of Airfield and unit Operations Officer, Flight 
      Standards Officer, Instructor Pilot, Aviation
      Training Officer, and Military Representative to the FAA Southern Region 
      Headquarters
      I completed tours of duty at:
       'E' Company 2nd Battalion 1st Training Brigade, Fort Polk, LA: Aug-Oct 
      1968.
       3rd Warrant Officer Candidate Company, Fort Wolters, TX: Oct 1968-Mar 
      1969. Class 69-19.
       4th Warrant Officer Candidate Company, Fort Rucker, AL: Mar-Jul 1969. 
      Class 69-19
       Cobra Hall, Hunter Army Airfield, Savannah, GA: Jul-Sep 1969.
       'A' Troop 7th Squadron 1st Air Cavalry Regiment 1st Aviation Brigade, 
      Vinh Long, Republic of Vietnam:
      Sep 1969-Sep 1970.
       206th Aviation Company (Assault Helicopter), Fort Clayton, Panama 
      Canal Zone, Panama: Oct- Dec 1970.
       Cobra Hall, Hunter Army Airfield, Savannah, GA: Jan-Mar 1972.
       Troop 'F', 8th Cavalry 1st Aviation Brigade, Da Nang, Republic of 
      Vietnam: Apr-Oct 1972.
       Troop 'F', 8th Cavalry 1st Aviation Brigade, Bien Hoa, Republic of 
      Vietnam: Oct 1972-Feb 1973.
       'D' Troop 3rd Squadron 8th Cavalry Regiment 8th Infantry Division, 
      Finthen Army Airfield, Mainz,
      Germany: Apr 1973-Sep 1976.
       Aviation Training Center, Fort Rucker, AL: Oct-Nov 1976.
       'D' Troop 4th Squadron 12th Cavalry Regiment 5th Infantry Division, 
      Fort Polk, LA: Dec 1976-May 1978.
       Aviation Training Center. Fort Rucker, AL: May 1978-Mar 1981.
       'C' Company (Attack) 3rd Aviation Battalion 3rd Infantry Division, 
      Schweinfurt Army Airfield, Germany:
      Apr 1981-Mar 1984.
       Regional Representative to the Federal Aviation Administration, 
      Southern Region, Atlanta, GA: Apr 1984-
      Apr 1988.
       Aviation Detachment, Polk Army Airfield, Fort Polk, LA: May 1988-Aug 1989.
      I served two combat tours in Vietnam as a Cobra attack helicopter 
      (AH-1G) pilot flying 1,582 hours of combat
      flight time and logging a total of 1,756 hours while in country. Units 
      of combat zone assignment were 'A' Troop
      7th Squadron 1st Air Cavalry 1st Aviation Brigade at Vinh Long, 
      Callsign: Apache 33 and Apache 38 and Troop 'F',
      8th Cavalry 196 Light Infantry Brigade then 1st Aviation Brigade at Da 
      Nang and Bien Hoa, Callsign: Blue Ghost
      22. During my tours in Vietnam, I was able to get my aircraft shot-up 
      eleven times, get shot-down twice, and crash
      twice. I also watched twenty seven of my scout aircraft get shot down or 
      crash and was able to assist in getting all
      of the downed crewmen out without the loss of a single life. I destroyed 
      innumerable houses, warehouses, and
      wheeled vehicles and shot at several North Vietnamese tanks.
      Military awards included the Distinguished Flying Cross (5 awards), 
      Bronze Star Medal (2 awards), Meritorious
      Service Medal (3 awards). Air Medal (56 awards, one for Valor), Army 
      Commendation Medal, National Defense
      Service Medal, Vietnam Campaign Medal (5 campaigns), Armed Forces 
      Reserve Medal, Army Service Ribbon,
      Overseas Service Ribbon (4 tours), Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry (2 
      awards, one with Star one with Palm),
      Vietnam Service Medal, Army Aviator Badge, Senior Army Aviator Badge, 
      and Master Army Aviator Badge.
      While on Active Duty, I earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in 
      Aeronautical Studies from Embry-Riddle
      Aeronautical University. I graduated Magna Cum Laude, 13 December 1980.
      2
      After retirement from the U.S. Army, I flew a Bell Jet Ranger BIII 
      supporting offshore operations in the Gulf of
      Mexico for Petroleum Helicopters for five months while waiting for my 
      Class date with American Airlines.
      Flight time: 201
      I hired on with American Airlines in Nov 1989. During this employment I 
      was based at New York (LGA),
      Miami (MIA), Chicago (ORD) and Dallas/ Fort Worth (DFW). I flew several 
      aircraft and crew positions until I
      retired early on 1 February 2002.
       Captain on McDonald-Douglas MD-80 and Fokker F-100
       First Officer on Boeing 767 & 757, McDonald-Douglas MD-80 and Boeing 727
       Flight Engineer on Boeing 727
       Flight time: Captain 822, First Officer 6,692, Flight Engineer 413
      I currently hold FAA Ratings of:
      Airline Transport Pilot
       Airplane Multiengine Land, B-757 B-767 DC-9 FK-100
       Commercial Privileges Airplane Single Engine Land, Rotorcraft-Helicopter,
       Instrument Helicopter
      Flight Instructor
       Airplane Single and Multiengine
       Instrument Airplane
      I am currently flying the Kolb Kolbra that I built and finished in Jun 
      2002. I have also built a Zenith CH701 and
      am building two BKFliers model BK1 in my garage at this time. I fly 
      regularly and have accumulated over 15,485
      flight hours. I am an EAA Technical Counselor and EAA Flight Advisor and 
      member of EAA Chapter 34 at
      Arlington, Texas.
      Kolbra Pilot N49KK
      John Williamson
      Arlington, Texas
      http://home.tx.rr.com/kolbrapilot
      
      
      >
      > Time: 10:33:00 PM PST US
      > From: "Ken Korenek" <kkorenek@tx.rr.com>
      > Subject: Kolb-List: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon
      >
      > Kolbers,
      >
      >
      > It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that John Williamson, Kolb
      > Kolbra, N49KK crashed and was killed  just before 10 AM local time, Sunday,
      > May 25th  at the Skinner Ranch Airport (12OR), Jordan Valley, Oregon.
      > (Skyvector Link:   http://skyvector.com/#35-9-3-5601-1393)
      >
      >
      > >From information relayed from the remote area by the investigating Sherriff,
      > John was flying with two other airplanes.   The other two planes landed and
      > were going to take pictures as John did a fly-by.   As he flew by in a sharp
      > bank, something happened and he went down.
      >
      >
      > It is almost certain that he did not suffer.
      >
      >
      > All this information is very preliminary and the only thing certain is that
      > we lost a friend.
      >
      >
      > I am John's flying buddy here in Arlington and am trying my best to help the
      > family thru this tragedy.   I was unaware of who was accompanying John after
      > the Monument Valley weekend, so if any of you know who the other two planes
      > and pilots might be, please relay any contact information you may have to
      > me.
      >
      >
      > I will keep you all posted as new information presents itself and will
      > advise you of funeral arrangements when they are final.
      >
      >
      > John was a really good guy and I am going to miss him.
      >
      >
      > Ken Korenek
      >
      > Arlington, Texas 
      >
      > 817-657-6500  cell
      >
      > 817-483-8054  home
      >
      > 972-641-5029  work
      >
      > kkorenek@tx.rr.com
      >
      >
      >  
      >   
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      Ken
      I think John  Hauck may have been one of the other pilots
      do not archive
      
      On May 26, 2008, at 1:27 AM, Ken Korenek wrote:
      
      > Kolbers,
      >
      > It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that John  
      > Williamson, Kolb Kolbra, N49KK crashed and was killed  just before  
      > 10 AM local time, Sunday, May 25th  at the Skinner Ranch Airport  
      > (12OR), Jordan Valley, Oregon.  (Skyvector Link:   http:// 
      > skyvector.com/#35-9-3-5601-1393)
      >
      > =46rom information relayed from the remote area by the investigating  
      
      > Sherriff, John was flying with two other airplanes.   The other two  
      
      > planes landed and were going to take pictures as John did a fly- 
      > by.   As he flew by in a sharp bank, something happened and he went  
      
      > down.
      >
      > It is almost certain that he did not suffer.
      >
      > All this information is very preliminary and the only thing certain  
      
      > is that we lost a friend.
      >
      > I am John=92s flying buddy here in Arlington and am trying my best to  
      
      > help the family thru this tragedy.   I was unaware of who was  
      > accompanying John after the Monument Valley weekend, so if any of  
      > you know who the other two planes and pilots might be, please relay  
      
      > any contact information you may have to me.
      >
      > I will keep you all posted as new information presents itself and  
      > will advise you of funeral arrangements when they are final.
      >
      > John was a really good guy and I am going to miss him.
      >
      > Ken Korenek
      > Arlington, Texas
      > 817-657-6500  cell
      > 817-483-8054  home
      > 972-641-5029  work
      > kkorenek@tx.rr.com
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      
      At MV JW said John Hauck and him were continuing on.
      
      
      From: kkorenek@tx.rr.comTo: kolb-list@matronics.comSubject: Kolb-List: Trag
      edy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, OregonDate: Mon, 26 May 2008 00:27:49 
      -0500
      
      
      Kolbers,
      
      It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that John Williamson, Kolb 
      Kolbra, N49KK crashed and was killed  just before 10 AM local time, Sunday,
       May 25th  at the Skinner Ranch Airport (12OR), Jordan Valley, Oregon.  (Sk
      yvector Link:   http://skyvector.com/#35-9-3-5601-1393)
      
      >From information relayed from the remote area by the investigating Sherriff
      , John was flying with two other airplanes.   The other two planes landed a
      nd were going to take pictures as John did a fly-by.   As he flew by in a s
      harp bank, something happened and he went down.
      
      It is almost certain that he did not suffer.
      
      All this information is very preliminary and the only thing certain is that
       we lost a friend.
      
      I am John=92s flying buddy here in Arlington and am trying my best to help 
      the family thru this tragedy.   I was unaware of who was accompanying John 
      after the Monument Valley weekend, so if any of you know who the other two 
      planes and pilots might be, please relay any contact information you may ha
      ve to me.
      
      I will keep you all posted as new information presents itself and will advi
      se you of funeral arrangements when they are final.
      
      John was a really good guy and I am going to miss him.
      
      Ken Korenek
      Arlington, Texas 
      817-657-6500  cell
      817-483-8054  home
      972-641-5029  work
      kkorenek@tx.rr.com
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      I'm at a loss for words........
      
      On 26, May 2008, at 1:27 AM, Ken Korenek wrote:
      
      > Kolbers,
      >
      > It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that John  
      > Williamson, Kolb Kolbra, N49KK crashed and was killed  just before  
      > 10 AM local time, Sunday, May 25th  at the Skinner Ranch Airport  
      > (12OR), Jordan Valley, Oregon.  (Skyvector Link:   http:// 
      > skyvector.com/#35-9-3-5601-1393)
      >
      > =46rom information relayed from the remote area by the investigating  
      
      > Sherriff, John was flying with two other airplanes.   The other two  
      
      > planes landed and were going to take pictures as John did a fly- 
      > by.   As he flew by in a sharp bank, something happened and he went  
      
      > down.
      >
      > It is almost certain that he did not suffer.
      >
      > All this information is very preliminary and the only thing certain  
      
      > is that we lost a friend.
      >
      > I am John=92s flying buddy here in Arlington and am trying my best to  
      
      > help the family thru this tragedy.   I was unaware of who was  
      > accompanying John after the Monument Valley weekend, so if any of  
      > you know who the other two planes and pilots might be, please relay  
      
      > any contact information you may have to me.
      >
      > I will keep you all posted as new information presents itself and  
      > will advise you of funeral arrangements when they are final.
      >
      > John was a really good guy and I am going to miss him.
      >
      > Ken Korenek
      > Arlington, Texas
      > 817-657-6500  cell
      > 817-483-8054  home
      > 972-641-5029  work
      > kkorenek@tx.rr.com
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon- Update | 
      
      Kolbers,
      
      
      I just talked to one of the gentlemen who witnessed the accident.
      
      
      It seems that 4 airplanes were out flying around and having a good time
      committing aviation out in "God's Country"  when one of the group needed to
      relieve himself.    It was decided to stop at the Skinner Ranch to take care
      of business.   3 of the 4 landed while John Williamson decided to stay aloft
      and circle the field.
      
      
      On about the second time around, one of the guys on the ground looked up and
      saw John in a steep bank right on the deck.   Apparently, the right wingtip
      caught and it was all over very quickly.  One of the guys approached the
      plane to see John's condition and check for signs of life, but it was
      apparent that the event was not survivable.
      
      
      I contacted the FAA early this morning and was told that an investigator
      will arrive on the scene to do the investigation sometime before noon MST.
      There will be very little more information until the formal findings are
      published by the NTSB/FAA.
      
      
      At this point, we do not know what happened.   Anything said is purely
      speculation.   And actually,  we may never know exactly what happened.
      
      
      But, what we do know is that John was a good pilot who left this world
      quickly, without suffering and doing what he truly loved to do.
      
      
      One cannot ask for much more than that.
      
      
      Ken Korenek
      
      Arlington, Texas
      
      817-657-6500  cell
      
      817-483-8054  home
      
      972-641-5029  work
      
      kkorenek@tx.rr.com
      
      
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      The news of John Williamson=99s aircraft crash and death is shocking. 
       I am 
      sad. What a wonderful man. I am  proud to have met him. My prayers are with 
      him 
      and his family.  
      Jim Swan 
      Firestar ll Michigan 
      do not archive
      
      
      **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch "Cooking with 
      Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
      (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      
      Kolbers, I just turned on my computer after a few days off-line and seeing this
      news is very tragic. I emailed John with questions about his Kolbra as I bought
      one a month ago. John is one very qualified guy to fly most any aircraft. Had
      he flown down on the deck, there was probably something there he didn't anticipate
      and it got him.
      
      When John H returns we will hear more ....
      
      My condolences to John's family ....
      
      Ralph B.
      
      --------
      Ralph B
      Original Firestar 447
      N91493 E-AB
      21 years flying it
      Kolbra 912UL
      N20386
      0 years flying it
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184884#184884
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      
      My prayers and sympathy go out to all John Williamson's family and friends!
      
      --------
      Cristal
      Mark II Twinstar
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184905#184905
      
      
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| Subject:  | Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      All,
      
      
      I too am saddened to hear of the news of John, what a wonderful man and a
      most experienced pilot. I will miss him and all his wonderful flying
      pictures journals. 
      
      
                             "God Bless you John"
      
      
      John H and others that were with John, my thoughts are with you, what an
      awful event for you all to experience.
      
      
      Bob Dalton
      
      wiserguy@comcast.net
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ken Korenek
      Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:28 PM
      Subject: Kolb-List: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon
      
      
      Kolbers,
      
      
      It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that John Williamson, Kolb
      Kolbra, N49KK crashed and was killed  just before 10 AM local time, Sunday,
      May 25th  at the Skinner Ranch Airport (12OR), Jordan Valley, Oregon.
      (Skyvector Link:   http://skyvector.com/#35-9-3-5601-1393)
      
      
      >From information relayed from the remote area by the investigating Sherriff,
      John was flying with two other airplanes.   The other two planes landed and
      were going to take pictures as John did a fly-by.   As he flew by in a sharp
      bank, something happened and he went down.
      
      
      It is almost certain that he did not suffer.
      
      
      All this information is very preliminary and the only thing certain is that
      we lost a friend.
      
      
      I am John's flying buddy here in Arlington and am trying my best to help the
      family thru this tragedy.   I was unaware of who was accompanying John after
      the Monument Valley weekend, so if any of you know who the other two planes
      and pilots might be, please relay any contact information you may have to
      me.
      
      
      I will keep you all posted as new information presents itself and will
      advise you of funeral arrangements when they are final.
      
      
      John was a really good guy and I am going to miss him.
      
      
      Ken Korenek
      
      Arlington, Texas 
      
      817-657-6500  cell
      
      817-483-8054  home
      
      972-641-5029  work
      
      kkorenek@tx.rr.com
      
      
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      I looked thru my photos of Monument Valley from this year and sadly 
      didn't get a close up of him. The attached is a photo of him doing what 
      he enjoyed most. His comment after landing was I like flying so I not 
      going to set it down before I need to. That was 5/17/08 at 10:00AM at 
      Monument Valley.
      
      I'm shocked. He was the best and will be deeply missed. My condolences 
      to John's family.
      
      Rick Neilsen
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: John Williamson | 
      
      
      Larry had a good picture of John W. at MV.  I cropped the picture...it's a little
      small in filesize though.
      
      --------
      Cristal
      Mark II Twinstar
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=184931#184931
      
      
      Attachments: 
      
      http://forums.matronics.com//files/john_williamson_162.jpg
      
      
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      My wife and I have been in shock and disbelief all day,,,  just wanted
      someone to say April fools or something,,,,   
      
      
      Just a week ago Sunday john h and john w stayed overnight here with my wife
      and myself.  John w had wanted to see the Utah state capitol building for 4
      years,,  but when he had mentioned it, the building had just been closed  to
      have earthquake dampeners installed along with a facelift and remodel.
      Last January it reopened, so while in town  Last Monday I drove him down to
      see it,,,, I asked where his camera was and he told me " no pictures,,,,,
      just memories."   That was his 47th capitol building out of 50.   
      
      
      So at least for today,,,,, no pictures,,,,,  just memories
      
      
      boyd young
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: John Williamson | 
      
      
       Kolbers,
      
          I too am saddened by the news of John Williamson's  death.  He was such a 
      swell and knowledgeable guy.  I had my 1st  flight in a Kolb in the back of 
      his plane at the Bowie TX fly-in several years  ago when I first met him.   
      Wow!  Still can't believe it!
      
                  His  Family is in our Prayers           along with John H and the 
      other 2 guys flying with him.
      
                     He will be sorely missed!
      
      
                                  Ed Diebel
      
      
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      Tyler Florence" on AOL Food.      
      (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4&?NCID=aolfod00030000000002)
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 4 stroke in a kolb | 
      
      MARK PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ,SOUNDS INTERESTING,  TRAVIS.
      
        I have been working on a Generac conversion for my Ultrastar for 
      several months now. I had to rebuild the cage and am working on a motor 
      mount to use a direct drive version that hand props to start. There is 
      one currently flying in a thunder gull in Illinois with 30+ hours now. 
      The engine will weigh the same as the Cuyuna that was removed with 5 
      more Hp. I would have more progress, but I am taking care of a sick 
      parent (who wants to see my lawnmower engine plane fly). Mark in
      Florida.
      
      The Cuyuna has a 2;1 belt reduction,exhaust,intake ,pullstart,and
      carb.No prop. Total weight is 81lbs.
      
       Valley engineering has a prototype that is down to 78lbs with prop, and
      200# thrust. But their ignition is run on a battery. I am trying to use
      the existing mag setup AND make a hub with a thrust bearing as to not
      wear out the case. We are also thinking of putting it on my friends
      Firefly that has 630hrs on the 447(1 decarb) and is looking for
      something else to try besides the =BD VW. 
      
      Did a lot of work on the airframe today,lot of TIG welding=85.Mark
      
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| Subject:  | Re: John Williamson | 
      
      Gang,
          I thank all of you for your kind thoughts about us survivors, but I 
      don't want to talk about the sad parts, just about the preceeding days. 
      Of course the weather was pretty crappy and JW and JH had to spend more 
      days stuck in Ontario Oregon than any of us would have liked, but the 
      weather eventually cleared enough for them to make the 100 mile flight 
      to the Rock House. Then the fun started. The food was great and the 
      first meal was of the Antelope that attacted John Hauck last year. He 
      had been sleeping at the side of the runway when John touched down 
      almost on top of him. The resultant melee probably caused both of them 
      to be incontinent. 
      
         For our first flight we went to the Alvord and JW flew the heights of 
      the Steen's Mtn. while the rest of us talked to the tourist at the hot 
      springs. After we left the tourist, we all landed on the lake bed to 
      relieve our personal tanks and take some pictures of the planes parked 
      in front of the Mt. range. We got back to the house just before the wind 
      came out of the west in a howling gale. Our second flight was the south 
      end of the Owyhee Canyon to the Three forks area. JW and JH amused 
      themselved by harrassing various Coyotes on the way. We saw many wild 
      (feral) horses, Antelope, Eagles, and rafting tourist. The two Johns 
      then flew the narrow canyons of the West Fork of the Owyhee for15 or 20 
      miles while I stayed aloft to watch for hair pin turns in the Canyons. 
      Finally we decided that Roger and I were low enough on gas to return 
      home. (mostly me) On the way back Roger and John W found some Bighorn 
      Sheep in a spot that I would not have believed they existed. Again the 
      wind came up with a vengence just after all of us tied down the planes. 
      For our last flight we decided to go check the identy of a large white 
      bird that they saw on the initial flight into the house. First we flew 
      to Bogus Creek and up that drainage until the Lava Flow out of Jordan 
      Craters. We found Coyotes, Antelope and cowboys in profusion.
      
         I guess in summary what I would like all of you to know was that we 
      were having a ball, doing just what all of us love to do. While the rest 
      of us were on the ground talking to tourist or relieving ourselves JW 
      would keep on flying even if he had to fly circles while we were fooling 
      around. He was a remarkable man, much more to him than he would ever let 
      on or tell you about without prying. While his passing is a shame, he 
      died doing what he loved and squeezing every drop of fun out of life. I 
      cannot ever remember seeing him angry, or without a smile on his face.
      
         I am proud to have known him and to have been able to share the short 
      time that we had.
      Larry Cottrell
      Firestar II 400 hours
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Tragedy at Skinner Ranch, Jordan Valley, Oregon | 
      
      
      I am very sorry to hear that John W. has gone west.............
      
      
      Met him at Sun-n-fun several years in sequence...............Nice gentleman 
      and very informative.....
      And he will be sorely missed.
      
      I KNOW John H. is having a hard time..........
      
      
      Take care guys,
      
      
      Wayne McCullough Kolbra 004 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: John Williamson | 
      
      Larry,
      Thank you for your wonderful e-mail of the joyful
      flying you, John W,  John H and Roger Hankins did.  It
      was so helpful to mitigate a little of the pain of
      John W's death. Like many of the others who have
      posted, I've been in shock that John W. is no longer a
      living part of this group.  It seems absolutely
      impossible that he is gone - and I send my respectful
      condolences to his family and good friends. I'll
      sorely miss his wisdom on the list, and his laughing
      face at MV.
      
      The attached photo was taken a few years ago at the
      Alvord Desert, on one of John H and John W's flights
      to visit you and Karen after the MV fly-in.  I don't
      know the year or the 3rd Kolb (is that you, Larry?)
      but it's been my screen saver for some time.
      
      Arty Trost
      Maxair Drifter
      Sandy, Oregon
      
      
      --- Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com> wrote:
      
      > Gang,
      >     I thank all of you for your kind thoughts about
      > us survivors, but I don't want to talk about the sad
      > parts, just about the preceeding days. Of course the
      > weather was pretty crappy and JW and JH had to spend
      > more days stuck in Ontario Oregon than any of us
      > would have liked, but the weather eventually cleared
      > enough for them to make the 100 mile flight to the
      > Rock House. Then the fun started. The food was great
      > and the first meal was of the Antelope that attacted
      > John Hauck last year. He had been sleeping at the
      > side of the runway when John touched down almost on
      > top of him. The resultant melee probably caused both
      > of them to be incontinent. 
      > 
      >    For our first flight we went to the Alvord and JW
      > flew the heights of the Steen's Mtn. while the rest
      > of us talked to the tourist at the hot springs.
      > After we left the tourist, we all landed on the lake
      > bed to relieve our personal tanks and take some
      > pictures of the planes parked in front of the Mt.
      > range. We got back to the house just before the wind
      > came out of the west in a howling gale. Our second
      > flight was the south end of the Owyhee Canyon to the
      > Three forks area. JW and JH amused themselved by
      > harrassing various Coyotes on the way. We saw many
      > wild (feral) horses, Antelope, Eagles, and rafting
      > tourist. The two Johns then flew the narrow canyons
      > of the West Fork of the Owyhee for15 or 20 miles
      > while I stayed aloft to watch for hair pin turns in
      > the Canyons. Finally we decided that Roger and I
      > were low enough on gas to return home. (mostly me)
      > On the way back Roger and John W found some Bighorn
      > Sheep in a spot that I would not have believed they
      > existed. Again the wind came up with a vengence just
      > after all of us tied down the planes. For our last
      > flight we decided to go check the identy of a large
      > white bird that they saw on the initial flight into
      > the house. First we flew to Bogus Creek and up that
      > drainage until the Lava Flow out of Jordan Craters.
      > We found Coyotes, Antelope and cowboys in profusion.
      > 
      >    I guess in summary what I would like all of you
      > to know was that we were having a ball, doing just
      > what all of us love to do. While the rest of us were
      > on the ground talking to tourist or relieving
      > ourselves JW would keep on flying even if he had to
      > fly circles while we were fooling around. He was a
      > remarkable man, much more to him than he would ever
      > let on or tell you about without prying. While his
      > passing is a shame, he died doing what he loved and
      > squeezing every drop of fun out of life. I cannot
      > ever remember seeing him angry, or without a smile
      > on his face.
      > 
      >    I am proud to have known him and to have been
      > able to share the short time that we had.
      > Larry Cottrell
      > Firestar II 400 hours
      > 
      > 
      
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                            Helen Keller
      
      "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
      
 
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