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1. 04:24 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
2. 04:30 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (Rino)
3. 06:25 AM - Re: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 (Sylvain April)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 (A. Dennis Savarese)
5. 02:08 PM - Re: Compressor issue (HBaker)
6. 05:25 PM - Re: Re: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 (daniel young)
7. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 (daniel young)
8. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 (Steve Culp)
9. 08:36 PM - Re: Re: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 (Jeff Micheal)
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| Subject: | Re: Free Fuel Flow |
Don't believe me, believe the M14P maintenance manual. The information
comes directly from it.
Dennis
On 4/9/2011 10:44 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> 360 HP consumes 41 GPH ??? ............ Wow,,, That's turbine fuel
> flows.. I guess you could if ya left the sump drains locked open . <G>
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 18:38:51 -0500
>
> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>
> According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> Dennis
>
> On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> >
> > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> >
> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> >
> > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
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> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all,
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > 360HP engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > connection.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> > off power.
> > > +>
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| Subject: | Re: Free Fuel Flow |
Thanks Steve, it does help, it gives a good perspective on what to
expect.
Rino
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Culp
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
It has been my experience that at high cruise I burn about 15 GPH.
Most new M-14Ps are dynoed at 378 or so but you don't usually fly them
at 100%. At the factory allowed 103% you are probably around 400 hp so
I don't think there is a lot of difference in burn between the 360 and
400 engines.
During an airshow routine I figured about 5 gallons for 14 minutes.
103% for takeoff until the tail is up and then back to 95% until 3 or 4
rolls depending on wind conditions and after a turnaround working the
power from 95% in the vertical back to 85% or a bit less on a downline.
That is with the big MT 3blade. This is after close to 2000 hours
behind the M-14P and 500 airshows.
I would be interested to see if someone could burn 28GPH.
All of our planes use -6 run through the cockpit fuel selector. I
don't remember the exact number but a -6 under low psi will flow quit a
bit of fuel.
Hope this help,
Steve
Culp's Specialties
www.culpsspecialties.com
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From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sat, April 9, 2011 6:02:57 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
Dennis
On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> --> M14PEngines-List message posted by: "William
Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
>
>
> Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
>
> Thanks!
>
> William Halverson
> N355YK
> YAK-55
>
>
>
>
> +-----Original Message-----
> +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> +
> +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> +Dennis
> +
> +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> +>
> +> George Coy
> +>
> +> CAS Ltd.
> +>
> +> 714 Airport Rd.
> +>
> +> Swanton VT 05488
> +>
> +> 802-868-5633 off
> +>
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> +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> +>
> +> Hi all,
> +>
> +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
360HP engine.
> +>
> +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
connection.
> +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> +>
> +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
off power.
> +>
> +> Thanks
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| Subject: | RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 |
I have installed AN-6 fittings and 3/8 inch piping=2C I find 133 L/hr free
flow at the engine connection or 35 gal/hr.
I have done many ground acceleration checks at full power. The engine accel
erate fast and pull very hard with no hesitation at all.
I know that the recommendation for a free flow check is of 125% of maximum
flow. I wonder if I should use an electric fuel pump to achieve this number
or redo the piping.
I should get my final inspection done soon and I dont think that 133 L/hr w
ill be accepted even if the engine is running fine with the actual hardware
.
Any suggestions?
Sylvain April
> Date: Sat=2C 9 Apr 2011 23:57:23 -0700
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> 1. 07:01 AM - Free Fuel Flow (Sylvain April)
> 2. 10:22 AM - M462 (George Coy)
> 3. 10:22 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (George Coy)
> 4. 02:18 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> 5. 02:46 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (William Halverson)
> 6. 03:34 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> 7. 04:07 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
> 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> 9. 08:14 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (Steve Culp)
> 10. 08:50 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
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> Time: 07:01:20 AM PST US
> From: Sylvain April <sapril001@hotmail.com>
> Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
>
> Hi all=2C
>
> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP engin
e.
>
> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine connection.
(
> Fuel Pump Inlet )
>
> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off powe
r.
>
> Thanks
> Sylvain April
> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 ______________________________
_______
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>
> Time: 10:22:21 AM PST US
> From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> Subject: M14PEngines-List: M462
>
> I have a friend with an M462 engine available for around $10K or best off
er.
> It is a 1991 overhaul and still in the original packing form the overhaul
.
> Includes accessories.
>
> A M462 is 320 hp upgraded version of the AI14 engine. It has a
> splined propeller shaft.
>
>
> George Coy
>
> CAS Ltd.
>
> 714 Airport Rd.
>
> Swanton VT 05488
>
> 802-868-5633 off
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> From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> April
> Sent: Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
>
> Hi all=2C
>
> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP engin
e.
>
> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine connection.
(
> Fuel Pump Inlet )
>
> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off powe
r.
>
> Thanks
> Sylvain April
> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 ______________________________
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> Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US
> From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>
>
> George Coy
>
> CAS Ltd.
>
> 714 Airport Rd.
>
> Swanton VT 05488
>
> 802-868-5633 off
>
> 802-363-5782 cell
>
> 802-868-4465 Fax
>
> george.coy@gmail.com
>
> http://coyafct.com/
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> From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> April
> Sent: Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
>
> Hi all=2C
>
> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP engin
e.
>
> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine connection.
(
> Fuel Pump Inlet )
>
> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off powe
r.
>
> Thanks
> Sylvain April
> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 ______________________________
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> Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
> Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> Dennis
>
> On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM=2C George Coy wrote:
> > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> >
> > George Coy
> >
> > CAS Ltd.
> >
> > 714 Airport Rd.
> >
> > Swanton VT 05488
> >
> > 802-868-5633 off
> >
> > 802-363-5782 cell
> >
> > 802-868-4465 Fax
> >
> > george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
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> > *Sent:* Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> > *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > Hi all=2C
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP eng
ine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine connection
.
> > ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off po
wer.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
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> Time: 02:46:56 PM PST US
> From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
>
>
> Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ... have n
ot ever
> seen a chart for that engine ...
>
> Thanks!
>
> William Halverson
> N355YK
> YAK-55
>
>
> +-----Original Message-----
> +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> +Sent: Saturday=2C April 9=2C 2011 02:13 PM
> +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> +
> +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> +Dennis
> +
> +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM=2C George Coy wrote:
> +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> +>
> +> George Coy
> +>
> +> CAS Ltd.
> +>
> +> 714 Airport Rd.
> +>
> +> Swanton VT 05488
> +>
> +> 802-868-5633 off
> +>
> +> 802-363-5782 cell
> +>
> +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> +>
> +> george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> +>
> +> http://coyafct.com/
> +>
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> +>
> +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> +> *Sylvain April
> +> *Sent:* Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> +>
> +> Hi all=2C
> +>
> +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP en
gine.
> +>
> +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine connectio
n.
> +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> +>
> +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off p
ower.
> +>
> +> Thanks
> +> Sylvain April
> +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> +>
> +> * *
> +>
> +> * *
> +>
> +> **
> +>
> +> **
> +>
> +> **
> +>
> +> **
> +>
> +> **
> +>
> +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
> +>
> +> **
> +>
> +> **
> +>
> +> *http://forums.matronics.com*
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> +> **
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>
>
> Time: 03:34:02 PM PST US
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
>
> The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff=2C fuel
> consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> Dennis
>
> On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM=2C William Halverson wrote:
pros.net>
> >
> >
> > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ... have
not
> ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > William Halverson
> > N355YK
> > YAK-55
> >
> >
> > +-----Original Message-----
> > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > +Sent: Saturday=2C April 9=2C 2011 02:13 PM
> > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > +Dennis
> > +
> > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM=2C George Coy wrote:
> > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > +>
> > +> George Coy
> > +>
> > +> CAS Ltd.
> > +>
> > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > +>
> > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > +>
> > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > +>
> > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > +>
> > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > +>
> > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > +>
> > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > +> *Sylvain April
> > +> *Sent:* Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +>
> > +> Hi all=2C
> > +>
> > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
engine.
> > +>
> > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine connect
ion.
> > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > +>
> > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
power.
> > +>
> > +> Thanks
> > +> Sylvain April
> > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > +>
> > +> * *
> > +>
> > +> * *
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> *http://forums.matronics.com*
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> > +> **
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> > +> **
> > +>
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>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7 ______________________________
_______
>
>
> Time: 04:07:21 PM PST US
> From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
> This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On t
> he Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
>
> 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
>
> do not archive
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
> 812@bellsouth.net>
>
> The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
>
> typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
>
> at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
>
> gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff=2C fuel
>
> consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> Dennis
>
> On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM=2C William Halverson wrote:
> etpros.net>
> >
> >
> > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ... ha
> ve not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > William Halverson
> > N355YK
> > YAK-55
> >
> >
> > +-----Original Message-----
> > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > +Sent: Saturday=2C April 9=2C 2011 02:13 PM
> > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > +Dennis
> > +
> > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM=2C George Coy wrote:
> > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > +>
> > +> George Coy
> > +>
> > +> CAS Ltd.
> > +>
> > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > +>
> > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > +>
> > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > +>
> > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > +>
> > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > +>
> > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > +>
> > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>
> > +> *Sylvain April
> > +> *Sent:* Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +>
> > +> Hi all=2C
> > +>
> > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360H
> P engine.
> > +>
> > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine conne
> ction.
> > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > +>
> > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take o
> ff power.
> > +>
> > +> Thanks
> > +> Sylvain April
> > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > +>
> > +> * *
> > +>
> > +> * *
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> *http://forums.matronics.com*
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution*
> > +>
> > +> **
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> > +> * *
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>
> Time: 04:41:43 PM PST US
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
>
> According to the M14P 360HP manuals=2C at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> Dennis
>
> On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM=2C n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> >
> > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> >
> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > Date: Sat=2C 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> >
> > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff=2C fuel
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM=2C William Halverson wrote:
> > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday=2C April 9=2C 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM=2C George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > +>
> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > +>
> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all=2C
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > 360HP engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > connection.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> > off power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
> > > +> Sylvain April
> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > > +>
> > > +> * *
> > > +>
> > > +> * *
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
> > > +>
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> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
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> ________________________________ Message 9 ______________________________
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>
>
> Time: 08:14:52 PM PST US
> From: Steve Culp <culpspecial@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
> It has been my experience that at high cruise I burn about 15 GPH.- =0A
> =0AMost new M-14Ps are dynoed at 378 or so but you don't usually fly th
em a
> t 100%.- =0AAt the factory allowed 103% you are probably around 400 hp
so
> I don't think =0Athere is a lot of difference in burn between the 360 a
nd
> 400 engines.- =0A=0A=0ADuring an airshow routine I figured about 5
gallon
> s for 14 minutes.- 103% for =0Atakeoff until the tail is up and then ba
ck
> to 95% until 3 or 4 rolls depending =0Aon wind conditions and after a t
urn
> around working the power from 95% in the =0Avertical back to 85% or a b
it l
> ess on a downline.- That is with the big MT =0A3blade.- This is after c
> lose to 2000 hours behind the M-14P and 500 airshows.=0A=0AI would be
inter
> ested to see if someone could burn 28GPH.=0A=0AAll of our planes use
-6 run
> through the cockpit fuel selector.- I don't =0Aremember the exact numbe
r
> but a -6 under low psi will flow quit a bit of fuel.=0A=0AHope this h
elp=2C
> =0A=0ASteve=0ACulp's Specialties=0Awww.culpsspecialties.com=0A
=0A=0A=0A____
> ____________________________=0AFrom: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netze
ro.c
> om>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat=2C April 9=2C 20
11 6:02:57
> PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A=0A=0AThis w
ill get y
> ou within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On the =0ARadial y
ou c
> an figure about .43 BSFC.-- =0A=0A400 HP =- somewhere around 28 gal
> lons per hour=0Ahttp://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0
A=0Ado
> not archive=0A=0ABen Haas=0AN801BH=0Awww.haaspowerair.com=0A=
0A----------
> Original Message ----------=0AFrom: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812
@bel
> lsouth.net>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: M14PE
ngines
> -List: Free Fuel Flow=0ADate: Sat=2C 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500=0A=
0A--> M14P
> Engines-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" =0A<dsavarese0812@
bell
> south.net>=0A=0AThe 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressur
e (35"
> ) which you =0Atypically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40").
-T
> he fuel flow =0Aat the higher manifold pressure will of course increase
by
> about 2-3 =0Agallons per hour. -However as soon as you back off after t
ak
> eoff=2C fuel =0Aconsumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.=0AD
ennis=0A
> =0AOn 4/9/2011 4:44 PM=2C William Halverson wrote:=0A> --> -M14PEngin
es-Lis
> t message posted by: "William =0A>Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>
=0A>
> =0A> Is fuel consumption linear? -I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ..
.
> have not =0A>ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>=0A> Thanks!
=0A>=0A>
> William Halverson=0A> N355YK=0A> YAK-55=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
> Message-----=0A> +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellso
uth.
> net]=0A> +Sent: Saturday=2C April 9=2C 2011 02:13 PM=0A> +To: m14peng
ines-list@
> matronics.com=0A> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>
+=0A>
> +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: -See attached.=0A> +Dennis=0A> +
=0A>
> hose and fittings.=0A> +>=0A> +> -George Coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -CAS L
td.=0A
> > +>=0A> +> -714 Airport Rd.=0A> +>=0A> +> -Swanton VT 05488=0A>
+>=0A>
> -802-868-4465 Fax=0A> +>=0A> +> -george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.c
oy
> @gmail.com>=0A> +>=0A> +> -http://coyafct.com/=0A> +>=0A> +> -SKY
PE geo
> rge.coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -*From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics
.com
> =0A> +> -[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behal
f
> Of=0A> +> -*Sylvain April=0A> +> -*Sent:* Saturday=2C April 09=2C 201
1 9:58
> AM=0A> +> -*To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A> +> -*Subject:* M1
4
> PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A> +>=0A> +> -Hi all=2C=0A> +>=0A>
> ave this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP =0Aeng
ine.
> =0A> +>=0A> +> -What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the
eng
> ine connection.=0A> +> -( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A> +>=0A> +> -What is
the
> maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off =0Apower.=0A
> +>
> =0A> +> -Thanks=0A> +> -Sylvain April=0A> +> -Murphy Moose C-GFFO
=0A>
> >=0A> +> -*http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*=0A> +
>=0A
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s.co
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> Time: 08:50:04 PM PST US
> From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
> 360 HP consumes 41 GPH ??? ............ Wow=2C=2C=2C That's turbine fuel
flows
> .. I guess you could if ya left the sump drains locked open . <G>
> do not archive
>
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>
> 812@bellsouth.net>
>
> According to the M14P 360HP manuals=2C at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
>
> between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
>
>
> WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
>
> engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> Dennis
>
> On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM=2C n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
>
> > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> >
> > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> >
> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > Date: Sat=2C 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> >
> > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
>
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff=2C fuel
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM=2C William Halverson wrote:
> > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday=2C April 9=2C 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM=2C George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > +>
> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > +>
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> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday=2C April 09=2C 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all=2C
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > 360HP engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > connection.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
>
> > off power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 |
Are the 133 L/Hr during a ground run up and not an actual take off?
Manifold pressure and resulting fuel consumption figures will increase
during the take off.
Another point to remember Sylvain, the specifications from the M14
manual are also based on operation at sea level on a standard day.
Dennis
On 4/10/2011 8:21 AM, Sylvain April wrote:
> I have installed AN-6 fittings and 3/8 inch piping, I find 133 L/hr free
> flow at the engine connection or 35 gal/hr.
> I have done many ground acceleration checks at full power. The engine
> accelerate fast and pull very hard with no hesitation at all.
> I know that the recommendation for a free flow check is of 125% of
> maximum flow. I wonder if I should use an electric fuel pump to achieve
> this number or redo the piping.
> I should get my final inspection done soon and I dont think that 133
> L/hr will be accepted even if the engine is running fine with the actual
> hardware.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Sylvain April
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 23:57:23 -0700
> > From: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > To: m14pengines-list-digest@matronics.com
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11
> >
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> > Total Messages Posted Sat 04/09/11: 10
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> >
> >
> > Today's Message Index:
> > ----------------------
> >
> > 1. 07:01 AM - Free Fuel Flow (Sylvain April)
> > 2. 10:22 AM - M462 (George Coy)
> > 3. 10:22 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (George Coy)
> > 4. 02:18 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 5. 02:46 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (William Halverson)
> > 6. 03:34 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 7. 04:07 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
> > 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 9. 08:14 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (Steve Culp)
> > 10. 08:50 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 07:01:20 AM PST US
> > From: Sylvain April <sapril001@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all=2C
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 10:22:21 AM PST US
> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: M462
> >
> > I have a friend with an M462 engine available for around $10K or best
> offer.
> > It is a 1991 overhaul and still in the original packing form the
> overhaul.
> > Includes accessories.
> >
> > A M462 is 320 hp upgraded version of the AI14 engine. It has a
> > splined propeller shaft.
> >
> >
> > George Coy
> >
> > CAS Ltd.
> >
> > 714 Airport Rd.
> >
> > Swanton VT 05488
> >
> > 802-868-5633 off
> >
> > 802-363-5782 cell
> >
> > 802-868-4465 Fax
> >
> > george.coy@gmail.com
> >
> > http://coyafct.com/
> >
> > SKYPE george.coy
> >
> >
> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> > April
> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US
> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> > Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> >
> >
> > George Coy
> >
> > CAS Ltd.
> >
> > 714 Airport Rd.
> >
> > Swanton VT 05488
> >
> > 802-868-5633 off
> >
> > 802-363-5782 cell
> >
> > 802-868-4465 Fax
> >
> > george.coy@gmail.com
> >
> > http://coyafct.com/
> >
> > SKYPE george.coy
> >
> >
> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> > April
> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > >
> > > George Coy
> > >
> > > CAS Ltd.
> > >
> > > 714 Airport Rd.
> > >
> > > Swanton VT 05488
> > >
> > > 802-868-5633 off
> > >
> > > 802-363-5782 cell
> > >
> > > 802-868-4465 Fax
> > >
> > > george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > http://coyafct.com/
> > >
> > > SKYPE george.coy
> > >
> > > *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > *Sylvain April
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> > >
> > > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > > ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > >
> > > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sylvain April
> > > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
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> > ________________________________ Message 5
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> >
> >
> > Time: 02:46:56 PM PST US
> > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> >
> > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> have not ever
> > seen a chart for that engine ...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > William Halverson
> > N355YK
> > YAK-55
> >
> >
> > +-----Original Message-----
> > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > +Dennis
> > +
> > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > +>
> > +> George Coy
> > +>
> > +> CAS Ltd.
> > +>
> > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > +>
> > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > +>
> > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > +>
> > +> george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > +>
> > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > +>
> > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > +>
> > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > +> *Sylvain April
> > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +>
> > +> Hi all,
> > +>
> > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> 360HP engine.
> > +>
> > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > +>
> > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > +>
> > +> Thanks
> > +> Sylvain April
> > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > +>
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> > ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 03:34:02 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> have not
> > ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > +>
> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > +>
> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all,
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> 360HP engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
> > > +> Sylvain April
> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
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> >
> >
> > Time: 04:07:21 PM PST US
> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On t
> > he Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> >
> > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> >
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> >
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> >
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> >
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > etpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ... ha
> > ve not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > +>
> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > +>
> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> >
> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all,
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360H
> > P engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine conne
> > ction.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take o
> > ff power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
> > > +> Sylvain April
> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > > +>
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> > Time: 04:41:43 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> > >
> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > >
> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > Ben Haas
> > > N801BH
> > > www.haaspowerair.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> > >
> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > William Halverson
> > > > N355YK
> > > > YAK-55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +
> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > > +Dennis
> > > > +
> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> George Coy
> > > > +>
> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > > +>
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> > > > +>
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> > > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Hi all,
> > > > +>
> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > > 360HP engine.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > > connection.
> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> > > off power.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Thanks
> > > > +> Sylvain April
> > > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > > > +>
> > > > +> * *
> > > > +>
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> > Time: 08:14:52 PM PST US
> > From: Steve Culp <culpspecial@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > It has been my experience that at high cruise I burn about 15 GPH.- =0A
> > =0AMost new M-14Ps are dynoed at 378 or so but you don't usually fly
> them a
> > t 100%.- =0AAt the factory allowed 103% you are probably around 400 hp so
> > I don't think =0Athere is a lot of difference in burn between the 360
> and
> > 400 engines.- =0A=0A=0ADuring an airshow routine I figured about 5 gallon
> > s for 14 minutes.- 103% for =0Atakeoff until the tail is up and then back
> > to 95% until 3 or 4 rolls depending =0Aon wind conditions and after a
> turn
> > around working the power from 95% in the =0Avertical back to 85% or a
> bit l
> > ess on a downline.- That is with the big MT =0A3blade.- This is after c
> > lose to 2000 hours behind the M-14P and 500 airshows.=0A=0AI would be
> inter
> > ested to see if someone could burn 28GPH.=0A=0AAll of our planes use
> -6 run
> > through the cockpit fuel selector.- I don't =0Aremember the exact number
> > but a -6 under low psi will flow quit a bit of fuel.=0A=0AHope this help,
> > =0A=0ASteve=0ACulp's
> Specialties=0Awww.culpsspecialties.com=0A=0A=0A=0A____
> > ____________________________=0AFrom: "n801bh@netzero.com"
> <n801bh@netzero.c
> > om>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, April 9, 2011
> 6:02:57
> > PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A=0A=0AThis will
> get y
> > ou within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On the =0ARadial
> you c
> > an figure about .43 BSFC.-- =0A=0A400 HP =- somewhere around 28 gal
> > lons per
> hour=0Ahttp://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A=0Ado
> > not archive=0A=0ABen
> Haas=0AN801BH=0Awww.haaspowerair.com=0A=0A----------
> > Original Message ----------=0AFrom: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese0812@bel
> > lsouth.net>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re:
> M14PEngines
> > -List: Free Fuel Flow=0ADate: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05
> -0500=0A=0A--> M14P
> > Engines-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> =0A<dsavarese0812@bell
> > south.net>=0A=0AThe 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold
> pressure (35"
> > ) which you =0Atypically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). -T
> > he fuel flow =0Aat the higher manifold pressure will of course
> increase by
> > about 2-3 =0Agallons per hour. -However as soon as you back off after tak
> > eoff, fuel =0Aconsumption will be as shown on the 360 hp
> chart.=0ADennis=0A
> > =0AOn 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:=0A> --> -M14PEngines-Lis
> > t message posted by: "William =0A>Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>=0A>
> > =0A> Is fuel consumption linear? -I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > have not =0A>ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>=0A>
> Thanks!=0A>=0A>
> > William Halverson=0A> N355YK=0A> YAK-55=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
> +-----Original
> > Message-----=0A> +From: A. Dennis Savarese
> [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.
> > net]=0A> +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A> +To:
> m14pengines-list@
> > matronics.com=0A> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>
> +=0A>
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: -See attached.=0A> +Dennis=0A> +=0A>
> > hose and fittings.=0A> +>=0A> +> -George Coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -CAS Ltd.=0A
> > > +>=0A> +> -714 Airport Rd.=0A> +>=0A> +> -Swanton VT 05488=0A> +>=0A>
> > -802-868-4465 Fax=0A> +>=0A> +> -george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy
> > @gmail.com>=0A> +>=0A> +> -http://coyafct.com/=0A> +>=0A> +> -SKYPE geo
> > rge.coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -*From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > =0A> +> -[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
> > Of=0A> +> -*Sylvain April=0A> +> -*Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58
> > AM=0A> +> -*To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A> +> -*Subject:* M14
> > PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A> +>=0A> +> -Hi all,=0A> +>=0A> +> -I h
> > ave this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> =0Aengine.
> > =0A> +>=0A> +> -What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the eng
> > ine connection.=0A> +> -( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A> +>=0A> +> -What is the
> > maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off =0Apower.=0A> +>
> > =0A> +> -Thanks=0A> +> -Sylvain April=0A> +> -Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>
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> > Time: 08:50:04 PM PST US
> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 360 HP consumes 41 GPH ??? ............ Wow,,, That's turbine fuel flows
> > .. I guess you could if ya left the sump drains locked open . <G>
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> >
> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> >
> >
> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> >
> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> >
> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> > >
> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > >
> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > Ben Haas
> > > N801BH
> > > www.haaspowerair.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> > >
> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> >
> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > William Halverson
> > > > N355YK
> > > > YAK-55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +
> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > > +Dennis
> > > > +
> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> George Coy
> > > > +>
> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
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> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Hi all,
> > > > +>
> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > > 360HP engine.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > > connection.
> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> >
> > > off power.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Thanks
> > > > +> Sylvain April
> > > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
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How long does it take the compressor to refill the tank , I only had it running
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Here are numbers I got on takeoff in my Model 12 today. It was hot at OLV this
afternoon (87 deg and 29.85 for a DA of 2356)
As was earlier pointed out, the static ff at the start of the run is a good bit
lower than at the end of the departure end doing about 200 mph.
2950 RPM
39.8 " MP
fuel flow was about 40 at start of takeoff and climbed to 46.
Dan Young
N12DY
________________________________
From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 8:47:09 AM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Are the 133 L/Hr during a ground run up and not an actual take off?
Manifold pressure and resulting fuel consumption figures will increase
during the take off.
Another point to remember Sylvain, the specifications from the M14
manual are also based on operation at sea level on a standard day.
Dennis
On 4/10/2011 8:21 AM, Sylvain April wrote:
> I have installed AN-6 fittings and 3/8 inch piping, I find 133 L/hr free
> flow at the engine connection or 35 gal/hr.
> I have done many ground acceleration checks at full power. The engine
> accelerate fast and pull very hard with no hesitation at all.
> I know that the recommendation for a free flow check is of 125% of
> maximum flow. I wonder if I should use an electric fuel pump to achieve
> this number or redo the piping.
> I should get my final inspection done soon and I dont think that 133
> L/hr will be accepted even if the engine is running fine with the actual
> hardware.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Sylvain April
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 23:57:23 -0700
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> > 1. 07:01 AM - Free Fuel Flow (Sylvain April)
> > 2. 10:22 AM - M462 (George Coy)
> > 3. 10:22 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (George Coy)
> > 4. 02:18 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 5. 02:46 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (William Halverson)
> > 6. 03:34 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 7. 04:07 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
> > 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 9. 08:14 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (Steve Culp)
> > 10. 08:50 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
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> _____________________________________
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> > Time: 07:01:20 AM PST US
> > From: Sylvain April <sapril001@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all=2C
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 10:22:21 AM PST US
> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: M462
> >
> > I have a friend with an M462 engine available for around $10K or best
> offer.
> > It is a 1991 overhaul and still in the original packing form the
> overhaul.
> > Includes accessories.
> >
> > A M462 is 320 hp upgraded version of the AI14 engine. It has a
> > splined propeller shaft.
> >
> >
> > George Coy
> >
> > CAS Ltd.
> >
> > 714 Airport Rd.
> >
> > Swanton VT 05488
> >
> > 802-868-5633 off
> >
> > 802-363-5782 cell
> >
> > 802-868-4465 Fax
> >
> > george.coy@gmail.com
> >
> > http://coyafct.com/
> >
> > SKYPE george.coy
> >
> >
> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> > April
> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US
> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> > Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> >
> >
> > George Coy
> >
> > CAS Ltd.
> >
> > 714 Airport Rd.
> >
> > Swanton VT 05488
> >
> > 802-868-5633 off
> >
> > 802-363-5782 cell
> >
> > 802-868-4465 Fax
> >
> > george.coy@gmail.com
> >
> > http://coyafct.com/
> >
> > SKYPE george.coy
> >
> >
> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> > April
> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > >
> > > George Coy
> > >
> > > CAS Ltd.
> > >
> > > 714 Airport Rd.
> > >
> > > Swanton VT 05488
> > >
> > > 802-868-5633 off
> > >
> > > 802-363-5782 cell
> > >
> > > 802-868-4465 Fax
> > >
> > > george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > http://coyafct.com/
> > >
> > > SKYPE george.coy
> > >
> > > *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > *Sylvain April
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> > >
> > > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > > ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > >
> > > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sylvain April
> > > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
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> > Time: 02:46:56 PM PST US
> > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> >
> > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> have not ever
> > seen a chart for that engine ...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > William Halverson
> > N355YK
> > YAK-55
> >
> >
> > +-----Original Message-----
> > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > +Dennis
> > +
> > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > +>
> > +> George Coy
> > +>
> > +> CAS Ltd.
> > +>
> > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > +>
> > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > +>
> > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > +>
> > +> george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > +>
> > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > +>
> > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > +>
> > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > +> *Sylvain April
> > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +>
> > +> Hi all,
> > +>
> > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> 360HP engine.
> > +>
> > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > +>
> > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > +>
> > +> Thanks
> > +> Sylvain April
> > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > +>
> > +> * *
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> >
> > Time: 03:34:02 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> have not
> > ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > +>
> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > +>
> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all,
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> 360HP engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
> > > +> Sylvain April
> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > > +>
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> >
> > Time: 04:07:21 PM PST US
> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On t
> > he Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> >
> > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> >
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> >
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> >
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> >
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > etpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ... ha
> > ve not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
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> > > +>
> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> >
> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all,
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360H
> > P engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine conne
> > ction.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take o
> > ff power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
> > > +> Sylvain April
> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
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> > Time: 04:41:43 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> > >
> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > >
> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > Ben Haas
> > > N801BH
> > > www.haaspowerair.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> > >
> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > William Halverson
> > > > N355YK
> > > > YAK-55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +
> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > > +Dennis
> > > > +
> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> George Coy
> > > > +>
> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > > +>
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> > > > +>
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> > > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Hi all,
> > > > +>
> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > > 360HP engine.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > > connection.
> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> > > off power.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Thanks
> > > > +> Sylvain April
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> > Time: 08:14:52 PM PST US
> > From: Steve Culp <culpspecial@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > It has been my experience that at high cruise I burn about 15 GPH.- =0A
> > =0AMost new M-14Ps are dynoed at 378 or so but you don't usually fly
> them a
> > t 100%.- =0AAt the factory allowed 103% you are probably around 400 hp so
> > I don't think =0Athere is a lot of difference in burn between the 360
> and
> > 400 engines.- =0A=0A=0ADuring an airshow routine I figured about 5 gallon
> > s for 14 minutes.- 103% for =0Atakeoff until the tail is up and then back
> > to 95% until 3 or 4 rolls depending =0Aon wind conditions and after a
> turn
> > around working the power from 95% in the =0Avertical back to 85% or a
> bit l
> > ess on a downline.- That is with the big MT =0A3blade.- This is after c
> > lose to 2000 hours behind the M-14P and 500 airshows.=0A=0AI would be
> inter
> > ested to see if someone could burn 28GPH.=0A=0AAll of our planes use
> -6 run
> > through the cockpit fuel selector.- I don't =0Aremember the exact number
> > but a -6 under low psi will flow quit a bit of fuel.=0A=0AHope this help,
> > =0A=0ASteve=0ACulp's
> Specialties=0Awww.culpsspecialties.com=0A=0A=0A=0A____
> > ____________________________=0AFrom: "n801bh@netzero.com"
> <n801bh@netzero.c
> > om>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, April 9, 2011
> 6:02:57
> > PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A=0A=0AThis will
> get y
> > ou within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On the =0ARadial
> you c
> > an figure about .43 BSFC.-- =0A=0A400 HP =- somewhere around 28 gal
> > lons per
> hour=0Ahttp://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A=0Ado
> > not archive=0A=0ABen
> Haas=0AN801BH=0Awww.haaspowerair.com=0A=0A----------
> > Original Message ----------=0AFrom: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese0812@bel
> > lsouth.net>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re:
> M14PEngines
> > -List: Free Fuel Flow=0ADate: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05
> -0500=0A=0A--> M14P
> > Engines-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> =0A<dsavarese0812@bell
> > south.net>=0A=0AThe 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold
> pressure (35"
> > ) which you =0Atypically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). -T
> > he fuel flow =0Aat the higher manifold pressure will of course
> increase by
> > about 2-3 =0Agallons per hour. -However as soon as you back off after tak
> > eoff, fuel =0Aconsumption will be as shown on the 360 hp
> chart.=0ADennis=0A
> > =0AOn 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:=0A> --> -M14PEngines-Lis
> > t message posted by: "William =0A>Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>=0A>
> > =0A> Is fuel consumption linear? -I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > have not =0A>ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>=0A>
> Thanks!=0A>=0A>
> > William Halverson=0A> N355YK=0A> YAK-55=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
> +-----Original
> > Message-----=0A> +From: A. Dennis Savarese
> [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.
> > net]=0A> +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A> +To:
> m14pengines-list@
> > matronics.com=0A> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>
> +=0A>
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: -See attached.=0A> +Dennis=0A> +=0A>
> > hose and fittings.=0A> +>=0A> +> -George Coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -CAS Ltd.=0A
> > > +>=0A> +> -714 Airport Rd.=0A> +>=0A> +> -Swanton VT 05488=0A> +>=0A>
> > -802-868-4465 Fax=0A> +>=0A> +> -george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy
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> > rge.coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -*From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > =0A> +> -[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
> > Of=0A> +> -*Sylvain April=0A> +> -*Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58
> > AM=0A> +> -*To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A> +> -*Subject:* M14
> > PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A> +>=0A> +> -Hi all,=0A> +>=0A> +> -I h
> > ave this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> =0Aengine.
> > =0A> +>=0A> +> -What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the eng
> > ine connection.=0A> +> -( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A> +>=0A> +> -What is the
> > maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off =0Apower.=0A> +>
> > =0A> +> -Thanks=0A> +> -Sylvain April=0A> +> -Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>
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> > Time: 08:50:04 PM PST US
> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 360 HP consumes 41 GPH ??? ............ Wow,,, That's turbine fuel flows
> > .. I guess you could if ya left the sump drains locked open . <G>
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> >
> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> >
> >
> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> >
> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> >
> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> > >
> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > >
> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > Ben Haas
> > > N801BH
> > > www.haaspowerair.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> > >
> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> >
> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > William Halverson
> > > > N355YK
> > > > YAK-55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +
> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > > +Dennis
> > > > +
> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> George Coy
> > > > +>
> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > > +>
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> > > > +>
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> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Hi all,
> > > > +>
> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > > 360HP engine.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > > connection.
> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> >
> > > off power.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Thanks
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I forgot to add that it is a PF engine and the numbers come from a Grand Rapids
EIS.
Dan Young
________________________________
From: daniel young <n35dy@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 7:23:00 PM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11
Here are numbers I got on takeoff in my Model 12 today. It was hot at OLV this
afternoon (87 deg and 29.85 for a DA of 2356)
As was earlier pointed out, the static ff at the start of the run is a good bit
lower than at the end of the departure end doing about 200 mph.
2950 RPM
39.8 " MP
fuel flow was about 40 at start of takeoff and climbed to 46.
Dan Young
N12DY
________________________________
From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 8:47:09 AM
Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11
<dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
Are the 133 L/Hr during a ground run up and not an actual take off?
Manifold pressure and resulting fuel consumption figures will increase
during the take off.
Another point to remember Sylvain, the specifications from the M14
manual are also based on operation at sea level on a standard day.
Dennis
On 4/10/2011 8:21 AM, Sylvain April wrote:
> I have installed AN-6 fittings and 3/8 inch piping, I find 133 L/hr free
> flow at the engine connection or 35 gal/hr.
> I have done many ground acceleration checks at full power. The engine
> accelerate fast and pull very hard with no hesitation at all.
> I know that the recommendation for a free flow check is of 125% of
> maximum flow. I wonder if I should use an electric fuel pump to achieve
> this number or redo the piping.
> I should get my final inspection done soon and I dont think that 133
> L/hr will be accepted even if the engine is running fine with the actual
> hardware.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Sylvain April
>
>
> > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 23:57:23 -0700
> > From: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
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> > Subject: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11
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> > 1. 07:01 AM - Free Fuel Flow (Sylvain April)
> > 2. 10:22 AM - M462 (George Coy)
> > 3. 10:22 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (George Coy)
> > 4. 02:18 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 5. 02:46 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (William Halverson)
> > 6. 03:34 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 7. 04:07 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
> > 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
> > 9. 08:14 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (Steve Culp)
> > 10. 08:50 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
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> >
> > Time: 07:01:20 AM PST US
> > From: Sylvain April <sapril001@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all=2C
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 10:22:21 AM PST US
> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: M462
> >
> > I have a friend with an M462 engine available for around $10K or best
> offer.
> > It is a 1991 overhaul and still in the original packing form the
> overhaul.
> > Includes accessories.
> >
> > A M462 is 320 hp upgraded version of the AI14 engine. It has a
> > splined propeller shaft.
> >
> >
> > George Coy
> >
> > CAS Ltd.
> >
> > 714 Airport Rd.
> >
> > Swanton VT 05488
> >
> > 802-868-5633 off
> >
> > 802-363-5782 cell
> >
> > 802-868-4465 Fax
> >
> > george.coy@gmail.com
> >
> > http://coyafct.com/
> >
> > SKYPE george.coy
> >
> >
> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> > April
> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US
> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
> > Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> >
> >
> > George Coy
> >
> > CAS Ltd.
> >
> > 714 Airport Rd.
> >
> > Swanton VT 05488
> >
> > 802-868-5633 off
> >
> > 802-363-5782 cell
> >
> > 802-868-4465 Fax
> >
> > george.coy@gmail.com
> >
> > http://coyafct.com/
> >
> > SKYPE george.coy
> >
> >
> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain
> > April
> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> >
> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection. (
> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
> >
> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
> power.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain April
> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > >
> > > George Coy
> > >
> > > CAS Ltd.
> > >
> > > 714 Airport Rd.
> > >
> > > Swanton VT 05488
> > >
> > > 802-868-5633 off
> > >
> > > 802-363-5782 cell
> > >
> > > 802-868-4465 Fax
> > >
> > > george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > http://coyafct.com/
> > >
> > > SKYPE george.coy
> > >
> > > *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > *Sylvain April
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> engine.
> > >
> > > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > > ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > >
> > > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sylvain April
> > > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > >
> > > * *
> > >
> > > * *
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> > >
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> > ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 02:46:56 PM PST US
> > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> >
> > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> have not ever
> > seen a chart for that engine ...
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > William Halverson
> > N355YK
> > YAK-55
> >
> >
> > +-----Original Message-----
> > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > +Dennis
> > +
> > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > +>
> > +> George Coy
> > +>
> > +> CAS Ltd.
> > +>
> > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > +>
> > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > +>
> > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > +>
> > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > +>
> > +> george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > +>
> > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > +>
> > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > +>
> > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > +> *Sylvain April
> > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > +>
> > +> Hi all,
> > +>
> > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> 360HP engine.
> > +>
> > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > +>
> > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > +>
> > +> Thanks
> > +> Sylvain April
> > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > +>
> > +> * *
> > +>
> > +> * *
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
> > +>
> > +> **
> > +>
> > +> **
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> > +>
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> >
> > ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 03:34:02 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> have not
> > ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > +>
> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > +>
> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all,
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> 360HP engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> connection.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> off power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
> > > +> Sylvain April
> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > > +>
> > > +> * *
> > > +>
> > > +> * *
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
> > > +> **
> > > +>
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> >
> > ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 04:07:21 PM PST US
> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On t
> > he Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> >
> > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> >
> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> >
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> >
> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> >
> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > etpros.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ... ha
> > ve not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > William Halverson
> > > N355YK
> > > YAK-55
> > >
> > >
> > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +
> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > +Dennis
> > > +
> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > +>
> > > +> George Coy
> > > +>
> > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > +>
> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > +>
> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > +>
> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > +>
> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > +>
> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > +>
> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > +>
> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> >
> > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > +>
> > > +> Hi all,
> > > +>
> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360H
> > P engine.
> > > +>
> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine conne
> > ction.
> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > +>
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take o
> > ff power.
> > > +>
> > > +> Thanks
> > > +> Sylvain April
> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > > +>
> > > +> * *
> > > +>
> > > +> * *
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> > Time: 04:41:43 PM PST US
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> >
> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> > >
> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > >
> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > Ben Haas
> > > N801BH
> > > www.haaspowerair.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> > >
> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > William Halverson
> > > > N355YK
> > > > YAK-55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +
> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > > +Dennis
> > > > +
> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> George Coy
> > > > +>
> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-868-5633 off
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
> > > > +>
> > > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
> > > > +>
> > > > +> http://coyafct.com/
> > > > +>
> > > > +> SKYPE george.coy
> > > > +>
> > > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> > > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Hi all,
> > > > +>
> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > > 360HP engine.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > > connection.
> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> > > off power.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Thanks
> > > > +> Sylvain April
> > > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
> > > > +>
> > > > +> * *
> > > > +>
> > > > +> * *
> > > > +>
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> > Time: 08:14:52 PM PST US
> > From: Steve Culp <culpspecial@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > It has been my experience that at high cruise I burn about 15 GPH.- =0A
> > =0AMost new M-14Ps are dynoed at 378 or so but you don't usually fly
> them a
> > t 100%.- =0AAt the factory allowed 103% you are probably around 400 hp so
> > I don't think =0Athere is a lot of difference in burn between the 360
> and
> > 400 engines.- =0A=0A=0ADuring an airshow routine I figured about 5 gallon
> > s for 14 minutes.- 103% for =0Atakeoff until the tail is up and then back
> > to 95% until 3 or 4 rolls depending =0Aon wind conditions and after a
> turn
> > around working the power from 95% in the =0Avertical back to 85% or a
> bit l
> > ess on a downline.- That is with the big MT =0A3blade.- This is after c
> > lose to 2000 hours behind the M-14P and 500 airshows.=0A=0AI would be
> inter
> > ested to see if someone could burn 28GPH.=0A=0AAll of our planes use
> -6 run
> > through the cockpit fuel selector.- I don't =0Aremember the exact number
> > but a -6 under low psi will flow quit a bit of fuel.=0A=0AHope this help,
> > =0A=0ASteve=0ACulp's
> Specialties=0Awww.culpsspecialties.com=0A=0A=0A=0A____
> > ____________________________=0AFrom: "n801bh@netzero.com"
> <n801bh@netzero.c
> > om>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, April 9, 2011
> 6:02:57
> > PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A=0A=0AThis will
> get y
> > ou within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On the =0ARadial
> you c
> > an figure about .43 BSFC.-- =0A=0A400 HP =- somewhere around 28 gal
> > lons per
> hour=0Ahttp://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A=0Ado
> > not archive=0A=0ABen
> Haas=0AN801BH=0Awww.haaspowerair.com=0A=0A----------
> > Original Message ----------=0AFrom: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> <dsavarese0812@bel
> > lsouth.net>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re:
> M14PEngines
> > -List: Free Fuel Flow=0ADate: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05
> -0500=0A=0A--> M14P
> > Engines-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
> =0A<dsavarese0812@bell
> > south.net>=0A=0AThe 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold
> pressure (35"
> > ) which you =0Atypically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). -T
> > he fuel flow =0Aat the higher manifold pressure will of course
> increase by
> > about 2-3 =0Agallons per hour. -However as soon as you back off after tak
> > eoff, fuel =0Aconsumption will be as shown on the 360 hp
> chart.=0ADennis=0A
> > =0AOn 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:=0A> --> -M14PEngines-Lis
> > t message posted by: "William =0A>Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>=0A>
> > =0A> Is fuel consumption linear? -I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > have not =0A>ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>=0A>
> Thanks!=0A>=0A>
> > William Halverson=0A> N355YK=0A> YAK-55=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
> +-----Original
> > Message-----=0A> +From: A. Dennis Savarese
> [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.
> > net]=0A> +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A> +To:
> m14pengines-list@
> > matronics.com=0A> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>
> +=0A>
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: -See attached.=0A> +Dennis=0A> +=0A>
> > hose and fittings.=0A> +>=0A> +> -George Coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -CAS Ltd.=0A
> > > +>=0A> +> -714 Airport Rd.=0A> +>=0A> +> -Swanton VT 05488=0A> +>=0A>
> > -802-868-4465 Fax=0A> +>=0A> +> -george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy
> > @gmail.com>=0A> +>=0A> +> -http://coyafct.com/=0A> +>=0A> +> -SKYPE geo
> > rge.coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -*From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
> > =0A> +> -[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
> > Of=0A> +> -*Sylvain April=0A> +> -*Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58
> > AM=0A> +> -*To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A> +> -*Subject:* M14
> > PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A> +>=0A> +> -Hi all,=0A> +>=0A> +> -I h
> > ave this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
> =0Aengine.
> > =0A> +>=0A> +> -What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the eng
> > ine connection.=0A> +> -( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A> +>=0A> +> -What is the
> > maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off =0Apower.=0A> +>
> > =0A> +> -Thanks=0A> +> -Sylvain April=0A> +> -Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>
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> > Time: 08:50:04 PM PST US
> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 360 HP consumes 41 GPH ??? ............ Wow,,, That's turbine fuel flows
> > .. I guess you could if ya left the sump drains locked open . <G>
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > Ben Haas
> > N801BH
> > www.haaspowerair.com
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> >
> > 812@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
> >
> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH at
> >
> >
> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
> >
> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
> > Dennis
> >
> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
> >
> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
> > >
> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
> > >
> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
> > >
> > > do not archive
> > >
> > > Ben Haas
> > > N801BH
> > > www.haaspowerair.com
> > >
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
> > >
> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
> >
> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
> > > Dennis
> > >
> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > William Halverson
> > > > N355YK
> > > > YAK-55
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > +-----Original Message-----
> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +
> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
> > > > +Dennis
> > > > +
> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> George Coy
> > > > +>
> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Swanton VT 05488
> > > > +>
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> > > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
> > Of
> > > > +> *Sylvain April
> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Hi all,
> > > > +>
> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
> > > 360HP engine.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
> > > connection.
> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
> > > > +>
> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
> >
> > > off power.
> > > > +>
> > > > +> Thanks
> > > > +> Sylvain April
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| Subject: | Re: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 |
That is just about the same fuel burn I had flying a 1425hp T28.--- U
se to =0Afigure 50gph on it.- Those 400 hp M-14-engines must be pretty
thirsty.- My dads =0Aold twin Beech used 40gph with 2 450hp 985s.=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: daniel young <n35dy@bells
outh.net>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, April 10, 2011
7:29:11 PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10
Msgs - 04/09/11=0A=0A=0AI forgot to add that it is a PF engine and the num
bers come from a Grand Rapids =0AEIS.=0ADan Young=0A=0A=0A=0A______________
__________________=0AFrom: daniel young <n35dy@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: m14peng
ines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, April 10, 2011 7:23:00 PM=0ASubject: R
e: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11=0A=0A
=0AHere are numbers I got on takeoff in my Model 12 today. It was hot at OL
V this =0Aafternoon (87 deg and 29.85 for a DA of 2356)=0A=0AAs was earlier
pointed out, the static ff at the start of the run is a good bit =0Alower
than at the end of the departure end doing about 200 mph.=0A=0A2950 RPM=0A3
9.8 " MP=0Afuel flow was about 40 at start of takeoff and climbed to 46.-
=0A=0ADan Young=0AN12DY=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@ma
tronics.com=0ASent: Sun, April 10, 2011 8:47:09 AM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngin
es-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11=0A=0A--> M14PEngin
es-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese" =0A<dsavarese0812@bellsouth
.net>=0A=0AAre the 133 L/Hr during a ground run up and not an actual take o
ff?=0A=0AManifold pressure and resulting fuel consumption figures will incr
ease =0Aduring the take off.=0A=0AAnother point to remember Sylvain, the sp
ecifications from the M14 =0Amanual are also based on operation at sea leve
l on a standard day.=0ADennis=0A=0AOn 4/10/2011 8:21 AM, Sylvain April wrot
e:=0A> I have installed AN-6 fittings and 3/8 inch piping, I find 133 L/hr
free=0A> flow at the engine connection or 35 gal/hr.=0A> I have done many g
round acceleration checks at full power. The engine=0A> accelerate fast and
pull very hard with no hesitation at all.=0A> I know that the recommendati
on for a free flow check is of 125% of=0A> maximum flow. I wonder if I shou
ld use an electric fuel pump to achieve=0A> this number or redo the piping.
=0A> I should get my final inspection done soon and I dont think that 133
=0A> L/hr will be accepted even if the engine is running fine with the actu
al=0A> hardware.=0A>=0A> Any suggestions?=0A>=0A> Sylvain April=0A>=0A>=0A>
=0A>=0A>- > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 23:57:23 -0700=0A>- > From: m14pengin
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=0A>- > 1. 07:01 AM - Free Fuel Flow (Sylvain April)=0A>- > 2. 10:22 AM
- M462 (George Coy)=0A>- > 3. 10:22 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (George Coy)
=0A>- > 4. 02:18 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)=0A>- > 5.
02:46 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (William Halverson)=0A>- > 6. 03:34 PM - R
e: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)=0A>- > 7. 04:07 PM - Re: Free Fuel
Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)=0A>- > 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. De
nnis Savarese)=0A>- > 9. 08:14 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (Steve Culp)=0A>
- > 10. 08:50 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)=0A>- >=0A>
- >=0A>- >=0A>- > ________________________________ Message 1=0A> ____
_________________________________=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Time: 07:01:20
AM PST US=0A>- > From: Sylvain April <sapril001@hotmail.com>=0A>- > Su
bject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Hi all
=2C=0A>- >=0A>- > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for
the M-14P 360HP=0A> engine.=0A>- >=0A>- > What should be the free fuel
flow value needed at the engine=0A> connection. (=0A>- > Fuel Pump Inlet
)=0A>- >=0A>- > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engi
ne at take off=0A> power.=0A>- >=0A>- > Thanks=0A>- > Sylvain April
=0A>- > Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>- >=0A>- > ___________________________
_____ Message 2=0A> _____________________________________=0A>- >=0A>- >
=0A>- > Time: 10:22:21 AM PST US=0A>- > From: "George Coy" <george@geso
co.com>=0A>- > Subject: M14PEngines-List: M462=0A>- >=0A>- > I have a
friend with an M462 engine available for around $10K or best=0A> offer.=0A
>- > It is a 1991 overhaul and still in the original packing form the=0A>
overhaul.=0A>- > Includes accessories.=0A>- >=0A>- > A M462 is 320 h
p upgraded version of the AI14 engine. It has a=0A>- > splined propeller
shaft.=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > George Coy=0A>- >=0A>- > CAS Ltd.=0A>
- >=0A>- > 714 Airport Rd.=0A>- >=0A>- > Swanton VT 05488=0A>- >
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- > http://coyafct.com/=0A>- >=0A>- > SKYPE george.coy=0A>- >=0A>
- >=0A>- > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com=0A>- > [
mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain=0A
>- > April=0A>- > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM=0A>- > Subje
ct: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Hi all,=0A>
- >=0A>- > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14
P 360HP=0A> engine.=0A>- >=0A>- > What should be the free fuel flow val
ue needed at the engine=0A> connection. (=0A>- > Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A>-
>=0A>- > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at tak
e off=0A> power.=0A>- >=0A>- > Thanks=0A>- > Sylvain April=0A>- > M
urphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > _____________________________
___ Message 3=0A> _____________________________________=0A>- >=0A>- >
=0A>- > Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US=0A>- > From: "George Coy" <george@geso
co.com>=0A>- > Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>
- > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- >
George Coy=0A>- >=0A>- > CAS Ltd.=0A>- >=0A>- > 714 Airport Rd.=0A>
- >=0A>- > Swanton VT 05488=0A>- >=0A>- > 802-868-5633 off=0A>- >
=0A>- > 802-363-5782 cell=0A>- >=0A>- > 802-868-4465 Fax=0A>- >=0A>
- > george.coy@gmail.com=0A>- >=0A>- > http://coyafct.com/=0A>- >
=0A>- > SKYPE george.coy=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > From: owner-m14pengin
es-list-server@matronics.com=0A>- > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server
@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sylvain=0A>- > April=0A>- > Sent: Saturday
, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM=0A>- > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Hi all,=0A>- >=0A>- > I have this question
about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP=0A> engine.=0A>- >=0A>-
> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine=0A> connecti
on. (=0A>- > Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A>- >=0A>- > What is the maximum fuel
consumption of the M-14P engine at take off=0A> power.=0A>- >=0A>- > T
hanks=0A>- > Sylvain April=0A>- > Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>- >=0A>- >
=0A>- > ________________________________ Message 4=0A> __________________
___________________=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US=0A>
- > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > Sub
ject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- > Regarding the
M14 fuel consumption: See attached.=0A>- > Dennis=0A>- >=0A>- > On 4/
9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:=0A>- > > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose a
nd fittings.=0A>- > >=0A>- > > George Coy=0A>- > >=0A>- > > CAS Ltd
.=0A>- > >=0A>- > > 714 Airport Rd.=0A>- > >=0A>- > > Swanton VT 05
488=0A>- > >=0A>- > > 802-868-5633 off=0A>- > >=0A>- > > 802-363-57
82 cell=0A>- > >=0A>- > > 802-868-4465 Fax=0A>- > >=0A>- > > george
.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>=0A>- > >=0A>- > > http://c
oyafct.com/=0A>- > >=0A>- > > SKYPE george.coy=0A>- > >=0A>- > > *F
rom:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com=0A>- > > [mailto:owner-m
14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of=0A>- > > *Sylvain Apr
il=0A>- > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM=0A>- > > *To:* m14
pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > > *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fu
el Flow=0A>- > >=0A>- > > Hi all,=0A>- > >=0A>- > > I have this que
stion about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP=0A> engine.=0A>- > >
=0A>- > > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine=0A
> connection.=0A>- > > ( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A>- > >=0A>- > > What is
the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take=0A> off power.=0A>
- > >=0A>- > > Thanks=0A>- > > Sylvain April=0A>- > > Murphy Moose
C-GFFO=0A>- > >=0A>- > > * *=0A>- > >=0A>- > > * *=0A>- > >=0A>
- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>
- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > *http://www.matro
nics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*=0A>- > >=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A
>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > *http://forums.matronics.com*=0A>- > >
=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >
=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution
*=0A>- > >=0A>- > > **=0A>- > >=0A>- > > * *=0A>- > >=0A>- > >
*=0A>- > >=0A>- > >=0A>- > > *=0A>- >=0A>- > ____________________
____________ Message 5=0A> _____________________________________=0A>- >
=0A>- >=0A>- > Time: 02:46:56 PM PST US=0A>- > From: "William Halvers
on" <william@netpros.net>=0A>- > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel
Flow=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask
because I have a 400HP M14PF ...=0A> have not ever=0A>- > seen a chart f
or that engine ...=0A>- >=0A>- > Thanks!=0A>- >=0A>- > William Halv
erson=0A>- > N355YK=0A>- > YAK-55=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > +-----Orig
inal Message-----=0A>- > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@
bellsouth.net]=0A>- > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A>- > +T
o: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List:
Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > +=0A>- > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See
attached.=0A>- > +Dennis=0A>- > +=0A>- > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, Geor
ge Coy wrote:=0A>- > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.=0A>-
> +>=0A>- > +> George Coy=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> CAS Ltd.=0A>- > +>=0A
>- > +> 714 Airport Rd.=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> Swanton VT 05488=0A>- >
=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> 802-868-4465 Fax=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> george.co
y@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> http://co
yafct.com/=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> SKYPE george.coy=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +>
*From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com=0A>- > +> [mailto:own
er-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of=0A>- > +> *Sylvai
n April=0A>- > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM=0A>- > +> *T
o:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List:
Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> Hi all,=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> I h
ave this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P=0A> 360HP engine
.=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at
the engine=0A> connection.=0A>- > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A>- > +>=0A>
- > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
=0A> off power.=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> Thanks=0A>- > +> Sylvain April=0A
>- > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> * *=0A>- > +>=0A>
- > +> * *=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> **=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> **=0A>- >
>- > +>=0A>- > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> **=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> **=0A>- > +>=0A>- >
>- > +> **=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> **=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> **=0A>- >
> +> **=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> * *=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> *=0A>- > +>
=0A>- > +>=0A>- > +> *=0A>- > +=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > __________
______________________ Message 6=0A> _____________________________________
=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Time: 03:34:02 PM PST US=0A>- > From: "A. Den
nis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > Subject: Re: M14PEngin
es-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > The 400 HP is developed
above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you=0A>- > typically only see
on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow=0A>- > at the higher m
anifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3=0A>- > gallons per
hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel=0A>- > consumpt
ion will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.=0A>- > Dennis=0A>- >=0A>- >
On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:=0A>- > > --> M14PEngines-L
ist message posted by: "William=0A> Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>-
> >=0A>- > >=0A>- > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have
a 400HP M14PF ...=0A> have not=0A>- > ever seen a chart for that engine .
..=0A>- > >=0A>- > > Thanks!=0A>- > >=0A>- > > William Halverson=0A
>- > > N355YK=0A>- > > YAK-55=0A>- > >=0A>- > >=0A>- > > +-----Or
iginal Message-----=0A>- > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0
812@bellsouth.net]=0A>- > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A>
- > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > > +Subject: Re: M14PEn
gines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > +=0A>- > > +Regarding the M14 fuel
consumption: See attached.=0A>- > > +Dennis=0A>- > > +=0A>- > > +On 4
/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:=0A>- > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 ho
se and fittings.=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> George Coy=0A>- > > +>=0A>
- > > +> CAS Ltd.=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> 714 Airport Rd.=0A>- > >
+>=0A>- > > +> Swanton VT 05488=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> 802-868-5633
off=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> 802-363-5782 cell=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > >
+> 802-868-4465 Fax=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto
:george.coy@gmail.com>=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> http://coyafct.com/=0A>
- > > +>=0A>- > > +> SKYPE george.coy=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> *From
:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com=0A>- > > +> [mailto:owner-m
14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of=0A>- > > +> *Sylvain
April=0A>- > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM=0A>- > > +>
*To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-L
ist: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> Hi all,=0A>- > > +>=0A>
- > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P=0A
> 360HP engine.=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> What should be the free fuel fl
ow value needed at the engine=0A> connection.=0A>- > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inl
et )=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of th
e M-14P engine at take=0A> off power.=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> Thanks=0A
>- > > +> Sylvain April=0A>- > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>- > > +>
=0A>- > > +> * *=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> * *=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > >
> > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>
- > > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*=0A>- > >
> +> *http://forums.matronics.com*=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- >
> +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- >
> +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> *http://www.matronics.com/contribution
*=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> * *=0A>- > >
+=0A>- > >=0A>- > >=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > ________________________
________ Message 7=0A> _____________________________________=0A>- >=0A>
- >=0A>- > Time: 04:07:21 PM PST US=0A>- > From: "n801bh@netzero.com"
<n801bh@netzero.com>=0A>- > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flo
w=0A>- >=0A>- > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for you
r fuel burn. On t=0A>- > he Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.=0A>-
>=0A>- > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour=0A>- > http://
www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A>- >=0A>- > do not archi
ve=0A>- >=0A>- > Ben Haas=0A>- > N801BH=0A>- > www.haaspowerair.com
=0A>- >=0A>- > ---------- Original Message ----------=0A>- > From: "A
. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > Subject: Re: M14P
Engines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- > 812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- >
=0A>- > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") whic
h you=0A>- >=0A>- > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 4
0"). The fuel flow=0A>- >=0A>- > at the higher manifold pressure will o
f course increase by about 2-3=0A>- >=0A>- > gallons per hour. However
as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel=0A>- >=0A>- > consumption w
ill be as shown on the 360 hp chart.=0A>- > Dennis=0A>- >=0A>- > On 4
/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:=0A>- > > --> M14PEngines-List m
essage posted by: "William Halverson"<william@n=0A>- > etpros.net>=0A>-
> >=0A>- > >=0A>- > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have
a 400HP M14PF ... ha=0A>- > ve not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
=0A>- > >=0A>- > > Thanks!=0A>- > >=0A>- > > William Halverson=0A>
- > > N355YK=0A>- > > YAK-55=0A>- > >=0A>- > >=0A>- > > +-----Ori
ginal Message-----=0A>- > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese08
12@bellsouth.net]=0A>- > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A>-
> > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngin
es-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > +=0A>- > > +Regarding the M14 fuel con
sumption: See attached.=0A>- > > +Dennis=0A>- > > +=0A>- > > +On 4/9/
2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:=0A>- > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose
and fittings.=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> George Coy=0A>- > > +>=0A>- >
> +> CAS Ltd.=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> 714 Airport Rd.=0A>- > > +>=0A
>- > > +> Swanton VT 05488=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> 802-868-5633 off
=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> 802-363-5782 cell=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +>
802-868-4465 Fax=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:ge
orge.coy@gmail.com>=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> http://coyafct.com/=0A>-
> > +>=0A>- > > +> SKYPE george.coy=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> *From:*ow
ner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com=0A>- > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pe
ngines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of=0A>- >=0A>- > > +> *Syl
vain April=0A>- > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM=0A>- >
> +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngi
nes-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> Hi all,=0A>- > > +>
=0A>- > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14
P 360H=0A>- > P engine.=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> What should be the fr
ee fuel flow value needed at the engine conne=0A>- > ction.=0A>- > > +>
( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> What is the maximum fuel c
onsumption of the M-14P engine at take o=0A>- > ff power.=0A>- > > +>
=0A>- > > +> Thanks=0A>- > > +> Sylvain April=0A>- > > +> Murphy Moos
e C-GFFO=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> * *=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> * *=0A
>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>
=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +
> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEn
gines-List*=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> **
=0A>- > > +>=0A>- > > +> *http://forums.matronics.com*=0A>- > > +>=0A
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t05vuc=0A>- >=0A>- > ________________________________ Message 8=0A> ___
__________________________________=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Time: 04:41:4
3 PM PST US=0A>- > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.ne
t>=0A>- > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- >
=0A>- > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consum
es=0A>- > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-4
4 GPH at=0A>- > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for
the 360HP=0A>- > engine using a fuel flow instrument.=0A>- > Dennis=0A>
- >=0A>- > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:=0A>- > > Th
is will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On=0A>-
> > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.=0A>- > >=0A>- > > 400 HP
= somewhere around 28 gallons per hour=0A>- > >=0A>- > > http://www.
ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A>- > >=0A>- > > do not archi
ve=0A>- > >=0A>- > > Ben Haas=0A>- > > N801BH=0A>- > > www.haaspowe
rair.com=0A>- > >=0A>- > > ---------- Original Message ----------=0A>
- > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > >
To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-Lis
t: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500=0A>- >
>=0A>- > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > >=0A>- > > The 400 H
P is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you=0A>- > > ty
pically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow=0A>-
> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3=0A
>- > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, f
uel=0A>- > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.=0A>- > >
Dennis=0A>- > >=0A>- > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
=0A>- > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>- > > >=0A>- > > >=0A>
- > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ..
.=0A>- > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>- > > >=0A
>- > > > Thanks!=0A>- > > >=0A>- > > > William Halverson=0A>- > > >
N355YK=0A>- > > > YAK-55=0A>- > > >=0A>- > > >=0A>- > > >=0A>- >
> >=0A>- > > > +-----Original Message-----=0A>- > > > +From: A. Dennis
Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]=0A>- > > > +Sent: Saturday
, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A>- > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
=0A>- > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > > +
=0A>- > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.=0A>- > >
> +Dennis=0A>- > > > +=0A>- > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wr
ote:=0A>- > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.=0A>- > > >
- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +
> Swanton VT 05488=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> 802-868-5633 off=0A>-
> > > +>=0A>- > > > +> 802-363-5782 cell=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +>
802-868-4465 Fax=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailt
o:george.coy@gmail.com>=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> http://coyafct.com/
=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> SKYPE george.coy=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- >
> > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com=0A>- > > > +> [
mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of=0A>- >
> > +> *Sylvain April=0A>- > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58
AM=0A>- > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A>- > > > +> *S
ubject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> H
i all,=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> I have this question about the fuel
flow needed for the M-14P=0A>- > > 360HP engine.=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- >
> > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine=0A>-
> > connection.=0A>- > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A>- > > > +>=0A>-
> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
=0A>- > > off power.=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> Thanks=0A>- > > >
+> Sylvain April=0A>- > > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>- > > > +>=0A>-
> > > +> * *=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- > > > +> * *=0A>- > > > +>=0A>- >
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>=0A>- > Time: 08:14:52 PM PST US=0A>- > From: Steve Culp <culpspecial@
yahoo.com>=0A>- > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >
=0A>- > It has been my experience that at high cruise I burn about 15 GPH
.- =0A=0A>- > =0AMost new M-14Ps are dynoed at 378 or so but you don'
t usually fly=0A> them a=0A>- > t 100%.- =0AAt the factory allowed 103%
you are probably around 400 hp so=0A>- > I don't think =0Athere is a l
ot of difference in burn between the 360=0A> and=0A>- > 400 engines.- =
0A=0A=0ADuring an airshow routine I figured about 5 gallon=0A>- > s f
or 14 minutes.- 103% for =0Atakeoff until the tail is up and then back=0A
>- > to 95% until 3 or 4 rolls depending =0Aon wind conditions and afte
r a=0A> turn=0A>- > around working the power from 95% in the =0Avertica
l back to 85% or a=0A> bit l=0A>- > ess on a downline.- That is with the
big MT =0A3blade.- This is after c=0A>- > lose to 2000 hours behind the
M-14P and 500 airshows.=0A=0AI would be=0A> inter=0A>- > ested to se
e if someone could burn 28GPH.=0A=0AAll of our planes use=0A> -6 run=0A
>- > through the cockpit fuel selector.- I don't =0Aremember the exact
number=0A>- > but a -6 under low psi will flow quit a bit of fuel.=0A
=0AHope this help,=0A>- > =0A=0ASteve=0ACulp's=0A> Specialties=
0Awww.culpsspecialties.com=0A=0A=0A=0A____=0A>- > _______________
_____________=0AFrom: "n801bh@netzero.com"=0A> <n801bh@netzero.c=0A>- >
om>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, April 9, 2011=0A
> 6:02:57=0A>- > PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0
A=0A=0AThis will=0A> get y=0A>- > ou within a few gallons per hour fo
r your fuel burn. On the =0ARadial=0A> you c=0A>- > an figure about .43
BSFC.-- =0A=0A400 HP =- somewhere around 28 gal=0A>- > lons per=0A
> hour=0Ahttp://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A=0Ado
=0A>- > not archive=0A=0ABen=0A> Haas=0AN801BH=0Awww.haaspowerair
.com=0A=0A----------=0A>- > Original Message ----------=0AFrom: "A.
Dennis Savarese"=0A> <dsavarese0812@bel=0A>- > lsouth.net>=0ATo: m14pe
ngines-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re:=0A> M14PEngines=0A>- > -List:
Free Fuel Flow=0ADate: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05=0A> -0500=0A=0A--> M
14P=0A>- > Engines-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"=0A> =0A
<dsavarese0812@bell=0A>- > south.net>=0A=0AThe 400 HP is developed ab
ove 880 MM manifold=0A> pressure (35"=0A>- > ) which you =0Atypically o
nly see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). -T=0A>- > he fuel flow =0A
at the higher manifold pressure will of course=0A> increase by=0A>- > abo
ut 2-3 =0Agallons per hour. -However as soon as you back off after tak=0A
>- > eoff, fuel =0Aconsumption will be as shown on the 360 hp=0A> chart
.=0ADennis=0A=0A>- > =0AOn 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrot
e:=0A> --> -M14PEngines-Lis=0A>- > t message posted by: "William =0A>
Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>=0A>=0A>- > =0A> Is fuel consump
tion linear? -I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...=0A>- > have not =0
A>ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>=0A>=0A> Thanks!=0A>=0A>
=0A>- > William Halverson=0A> N355YK=0A> YAK-55=0A>=0A>=0A>=0
A>=0A>=0A> +-----Original=0A>- > Message-----=0A> +From: A. Dennis Sa
varese=0A> [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.=0A>- > net]=0A> +Sent: Satu
rday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A> +To:=0A> m14pengines-list@=0A>- > matr
onics.com=0A> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>=0A> +
=0A>=0A>- > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: -See attached.=0A> +
Dennis=0A> +=0A>=0A>- > hose and fittings.=0A> +>=0A> +> -George
Coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -CAS Ltd.=0A=0A>- > > +>=0A> +> -714 Airport Rd
.=0A> +>=0A> +> -Swanton VT 05488=0A> +>=0A>=0A>- > -802-868-4465
Fax=0A> +>=0A> +> -george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy=0A>- > @gm
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o=0A>- > rge.coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -*From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@
matronics.com=0A>- > =0A> +> -[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@mat
ronics.com] *On Behalf=0A>- > Of=0A> +> -*Sylvain April=0A> +> -*Sent
:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58=0A>- > AM=0A> +> -*To:* m14pengines-li
st@matronics.com=0A> +> -*Subject:* M14=0A>- > PEngines-List: Free Fuel
Flow=0A> +>=0A> +> -Hi all,=0A> +>=0A> +> -I h=0A>- > ave this q
uestion about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP=0A> =0Aengine.=0A>
- > =0A> +>=0A> +> -What should be the free fuel flow value needed at
the eng=0A>- > ine connection.=0A> +> -( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A> +>=
0A> +> -What is the=0A>- > maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine a
t take off =0Apower.=0A> +>=0A>- > =0A> +> -Thanks=0A> +> -Sylvai
n April=0A> +> -Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>=0A>- > >=0A> +> -*http://ww
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ject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- > 360 HP consume
s 41 GPH ??? ............ Wow,,, That's turbine fuel flows=0A>- > .. I gu
ess you could if ya left the sump drains locked open . <G>=0A>- > do not
archive=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > Ben Haas=0A>- > N801BH=0A>- > www.ha
aspowerair.com=0A>- >=0A>- > ---------- Original Message ----------=0A>
- > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > Sub
ject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- >=0A>- > 812@bellsouth.
net>=0A>- >=0A>- > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360
HP M14 consumes=0A>- >=0A>- > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 wil
l consume between 43-44 GPH at=0A>- >=0A>- >=0A>- > WOT. I have also
proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP=0A>- >=0A>- > engine
using a fuel flow instrument.=0A>- > Dennis=0A>- >=0A>- > On 4/9/2011
6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:=0A>- > > This will get you within a f
ew gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On=0A>- >=0A>- > > the Radial y
ou can figure about .43 BSFC.=0A>- > >=0A>- > > 400 HP = somewhere ar
ound 28 gallons per hour=0A>- > >=0A>- > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315
061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A>- > >=0A>- > > do not archive=0A>- > >=0A>
- > > Ben Haas=0A>- > > N801BH=0A>- > > www.haaspowerair.com=0A>- >
>=0A>- > > ---------- Original Message ----------=0A>- > > From: "A. D
ennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > > To: m14pengines-li
st@matronics.com=0A>- > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
=0A>- > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500=0A>- > >=0A>- > > <ds
avarese0812@bellsouth.net>=0A>- > >=0A>- > > The 400 HP is developed ab
ove 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you=0A>- >=0A>- > > typically
only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow=0A>- > > at t
he higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3=0A>- > >
gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel=0A>
- > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.=0A>- > > Dennis
=0A>- > >=0A>- > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:=0A>-
> > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>=0A>- > > >=0A>- > > >=0A>- > > >
Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...=0A>-
> > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>- > > >=0A>- > >
> Thanks!=0A>- > > >=0A>- > > > William Halverson=0A>- > > > N355YK
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> > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>- > > > +=0A>- >
> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.=0A>- > > > +Denni
s=0A>- > > > +=0A>- > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:=0A>
- > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.=0A>- > > > +>=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11 |
Those fuel burn numbers are for TO, not cruise.... Right?
On 2011-04-10 8:24 PM, "Steve Culp" <culpspecial@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That is just about the same fuel burn I had flying a 1425hp T28. Use to
> figure 50gph on it. Those 400 hp M-14 engines must be pretty thirsty. My
dads
> old twin Beech used 40gph with 2 450hp 985s.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: daniel young <n35dy@bellsouth.net>
> To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 7:29:11 PM
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs -
04/09/11
>
>
> I forgot to add that it is a PF engine and the numbers come from a Grand
Rapids
> EIS.
> Dan Young
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: daniel young <n35dy@bellsouth.net>
> To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 7:23:00 PM
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs -
04/09/11
>
>
> Here are numbers I got on takeoff in my Model 12 today. It was hot at OLV
this
> afternoon (87 deg and 29.85 for a DA of 2356)
>
> As was earlier pointed out, the static ff at the start of the run is a
good bit
> lower than at the end of the departure end doing about 200 mph.
>
> 2950 RPM
> 39.8 " MP
> fuel flow was about 40 at start of takeoff and climbed to 46.
>
> Dan Young
> N12DY
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: A. Dennis Savarese <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
> To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 8:47:09 AM
> Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: RE: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs -
04/09/11
>
> <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>
> Are the 133 L/Hr during a ground run up and not an actual take off?
>
> Manifold pressure and resulting fuel consumption figures will increase
> during the take off.
>
> Another point to remember Sylvain, the specifications from the M14
> manual are also based on operation at sea level on a standard day.
> Dennis
>
> On 4/10/2011 8:21 AM, Sylvain April wrote:
>> I have installed AN-6 fittings and 3/8 inch piping, I find 133 L/hr free
>> flow at the engine connection or 35 gal/hr.
>> I have done many ground acceleration checks at full power. The engine
>> accelerate fast and pull very hard with no hesitation at all.
>> I know that the recommendation for a free flow check is of 125% of
>> maximum flow. I wonder if I should use an electric fuel pump to achieve
>> this number or redo the piping.
>> I should get my final inspection done soon and I dont think that 133
>> L/hr will be accepted even if the engine is running fine with the actual
>> hardware.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Sylvain April
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 23:57:23 -0700
>> > From: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > To: m14pengines-list-digest@matronics.com
>> > Subject: M14PEngines-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 04/09/11
>> >
>> > *
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>> >
>> > 1. 07:01 AM - Free Fuel Flow (Sylvain April)
>> > 2. 10:22 AM - M462 (George Coy)
>> > 3. 10:22 AM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (George Coy)
>> > 4. 02:18 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> > 5. 02:46 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (William Halverson)
>> > 6. 03:34 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> > 7. 04:07 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
>> > 8. 04:41 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (A. Dennis Savarese)
>> > 9. 08:14 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (Steve Culp)
>> > 10. 08:50 PM - Re: Free Fuel Flow (n801bh@netzero.com)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 07:01:20 AM PST US
>> > From: Sylvain April <sapril001@hotmail.com>
>> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all=2C
>> >
>> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
>> engine.
>> >
>> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> connection. (
>> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> >
>> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
>> power.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Sylvain April
>> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 10:22:21 AM PST US
>> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
>> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: M462
>> >
>> > I have a friend with an M462 engine available for around $10K or best
>> offer.
>> > It is a 1991 overhaul and still in the original packing form the
>> overhaul.
>> > Includes accessories.
>> >
>> > A M462 is 320 hp upgraded version of the AI14 engine. It has a
>> > splined propeller shaft.
>> >
>> >
>> > George Coy
>> >
>> > CAS Ltd.
>> >
>> > 714 Airport Rd.
>> >
>> > Swanton VT 05488
>> >
>> > 802-868-5633 off
>> >
>> > 802-363-5782 cell
>> >
>> > 802-868-4465 Fax
>> >
>> > george.coy@gmail.com
>> >
>> > http://coyafct.com/
>> >
>> > SKYPE george.coy
>> >
>> >
>> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Sylvain
>> > April
>> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
>> engine.
>> >
>> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> connection. (
>> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> >
>> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
>> power.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Sylvain April
>> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 3
>> _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 10:22:22 AM PST US
>> > From: "George Coy" <george@gesoco.com>
>> > Subject: RE: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>> >
>> >
>> > George Coy
>> >
>> > CAS Ltd.
>> >
>> > 714 Airport Rd.
>> >
>> > Swanton VT 05488
>> >
>> > 802-868-5633 off
>> >
>> > 802-363-5782 cell
>> >
>> > 802-868-4465 Fax
>> >
>> > george.coy@gmail.com
>> >
>> > http://coyafct.com/
>> >
>> > SKYPE george.coy
>> >
>> >
>> > From: owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Sylvain
>> > April
>> > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > Subject: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
>> engine.
>> >
>> > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> connection. (
>> > Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> >
>> > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off
>> power.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Sylvain April
>> > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 4
>> _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 02:18:51 PM PST US
>> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> > Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> > On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
>> > > You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>> > >
>> > > George Coy
>> > >
>> > > CAS Ltd.
>> > >
>> > > 714 Airport Rd.
>> > >
>> > > Swanton VT 05488
>> > >
>> > > 802-868-5633 off
>> > >
>> > > 802-363-5782 cell
>> > >
>> > > 802-868-4465 Fax
>> > >
>> > > george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
>> > >
>> > > http://coyafct.com/
>> > >
>> > > SKYPE george.coy
>> > >
>> > > *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > > [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>> > > *Sylvain April
>> > > *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > > *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > >
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
>> engine.
>> > >
>> > > What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> connection.
>> > > ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> > >
>> > > What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
>> off power.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Sylvain April
>> > > Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> > >
>> > > * *
>> > >
>> > > * *
>> > >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > > **
>> > >
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>> > >
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>> > >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > > **
>> > >
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>> > ________________________________ Message 5
>> _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 02:46:56 PM PST US
>> > From: "William Halverson" <william@netpros.net>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
>> have not ever
>> > seen a chart for that engine ...
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > William Halverson
>> > N355YK
>> > YAK-55
>> >
>> >
>> > +-----Original Message-----
>> > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
>> > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
>> > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > +
>> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
>> > +Dennis
>> > +
>> > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
>> > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>> > +>
>> > +> George Coy
>> > +>
>> > +> CAS Ltd.
>> > +>
>> > +> 714 Airport Rd.
>> > +>
>> > +> Swanton VT 05488
>> > +>
>> > +> 802-868-5633 off
>> > +>
>> > +> 802-363-5782 cell
>> > +>
>> > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
>> > +>
>> > +> george.coy@gmail.com <mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
>> > +>
>> > +> http://coyafct.com/
>> > +>
>> > +> SKYPE george.coy
>> > +>
>> > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
>> > +> *Sylvain April
>> > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > +>
>> > +> Hi all,
>> > +>
>> > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
>> 360HP engine.
>> > +>
>> > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> connection.
>> > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> > +>
>> > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
>> off power.
>> > +>
>> > +> Thanks
>> > +> Sylvain April
>> > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> > +>
>> > +> * *
>> > +>
>> > +> * *
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> *http://forums.matronics.com*
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
>> > +>
>> > +> **
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>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 6
>> _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 03:34:02 PM PST US
>> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> >
>> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
>> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
>> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
>> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
>> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
>> Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
>> have not
>> > ever seen a chart for that engine ...
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > > William Halverson
>> > > N355YK
>> > > YAK-55
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > +-----Original Message-----
>> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
>> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
>> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > +
>> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
>> > > +Dennis
>> > > +
>> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
>> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> George Coy
>> > > +>
>> > > +> CAS Ltd.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
>> > > +>
>> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
>> > > +>
>> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
>> > > +>
>> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
>> > > +>
>> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
Of
>> > > +> *Sylvain April
>> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > +>
>> > > +> Hi all,
>> > > +>
>> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
>> 360HP engine.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> connection.
>> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> > > +>
>> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
>> off power.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> Thanks
>> > > +> Sylvain April
>> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> > > +>
>> > > +> * *
>> > > +>
>> > > +> * *
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> *http://forums.matronics.com*
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>> > > +
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________ Message 7
>> _____________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 04:07:21 PM PST US
>> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On
t
>> > he Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
>> >
>> > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
>> > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
>> >
>> > do not archive
>> >
>> > Ben Haas
>> > N801BH
>> > www.haaspowerair.com
>> >
>> > ---------- Original Message ----------
>> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> > 812@bellsouth.net>
>> >
>> > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which you
>> >
>> > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel flow
>> >
>> > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
>> >
>> > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff, fuel
>> >
>> > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
Halverson"<william@n
>> > etpros.net>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
ha
>> > ve not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > > William Halverson
>> > > N355YK
>> > > YAK-55
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > +-----Original Message-----
>> > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
>> > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
>> > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > +
>> > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
>> > > +Dennis
>> > > +
>> > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
>> > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> George Coy
>> > > +>
>> > > +> CAS Ltd.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> Swanton VT 05488
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 802-868-5633 off
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
>> > > +>
>> > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
>> > > +>
>> > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
>> > > +>
>> > > +> http://coyafct.com/
>> > > +>
>> > > +> SKYPE george.coy
>> > > +>
>> > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
Of
>> >
>> > > +> *Sylvain April
>> > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > +>
>> > > +> Hi all,
>> > > +>
>> > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
360H
>> > P engine.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
conne
>> > ction.
>> > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> > > +>
>> > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take
o
>> > ff power.
>> > > +>
>> > > +> Thanks
>> > > +> Sylvain April
>> > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> > > +>
>> > > +> * *
>> > > +>
>> > > +> * *
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
>> > > +> *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*
>> > > +>
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>> > > +>
>> > > +> **
>> > > +>
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>> >
>> > Time: 04:41:43 PM PST US
>> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> >
>> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
>> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH
at
>> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
>> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
>> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn.
On
>> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
>> > >
>> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
>> > >
>> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
>> > >
>> > > do not archive
>> > >
>> > > Ben Haas
>> > > N801BH
>> > > www.haaspowerair.com
>> > >
>> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
>> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
>> > >
>> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > >
>> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which
you
>> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel
flow
>> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
>> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff,
fuel
>> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
>> > > Dennis
>> > >
>> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
>> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
>> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > >
>> > > > William Halverson
>> > > > N355YK
>> > > > YAK-55
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > +-----Original Message-----
>> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
>> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
>> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > > +
>> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
>> > > > +Dennis
>> > > > +
>> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
>> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> George Coy
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> Swanton VT 05488
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> 802-868-5633 off
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> 802-363-5782 cell
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> 802-868-4465 Fax
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:george.coy@gmail.com>
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> http://coyafct.com/
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> SKYPE george.coy
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
Of
>> > > > +> *Sylvain April
>> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> Hi all,
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
>> > > 360HP engine.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> > > connection.
>> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at
take
>> > > off power.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> Thanks
>> > > > +> Sylvain April
>> > > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> * *
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>> > ________________________________ Message 9
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>> >
>> >
>> > Time: 08:14:52 PM PST US
>> > From: Steve Culp <culpspecial@yahoo.com>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> > It has been my experience that at high cruise I burn about 15 GPH.-
=0A
>> > =0AMost new M-14Ps are dynoed at 378 or so but you don't usually fly
>> them a
>> > t 100%.- =0AAt the factory allowed 103% you are probably around 400 hp
so
>> > I don't think =0Athere is a lot of difference in burn between the 360
>> and
>> > 400 engines.- =0A=0A=0ADuring an airshow routine I figured about 5
gallon
>> > s for 14 minutes.- 103% for =0Atakeoff until the tail is up and then
back
>> > to 95% until 3 or 4 rolls depending =0Aon wind conditions and after a
>> turn
>> > around working the power from 95% in the =0Avertical back to 85% or a
>> bit l
>> > ess on a downline.- That is with the big MT =0A3blade.- This is after
c
>> > lose to 2000 hours behind the M-14P and 500 airshows.=0A=0AI would be
>> inter
>> > ested to see if someone could burn 28GPH.=0A=0AAll of our planes use
>> -6 run
>> > through the cockpit fuel selector.- I don't =0Aremember the exact
number
>> > but a -6 under low psi will flow quit a bit of fuel.=0A=0AHope this
help,
>> > =0A=0ASteve=0ACulp's
>> Specialties=0Awww.culpsspecialties.com=0A=0A=0A=0A____
>> > ____________________________=0AFrom: "n801bh@netzero.com"
>> <n801bh@netzero.c
>> > om>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sat, April 9, 2011
>> 6:02:57
>> > PM=0ASubject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A=0A=0AThis will
>> get y
>> > ou within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn. On the =0ARadial
>> you c
>> > an figure about .43 BSFC.-- =0A=0A400 HP =- somewhere around 28 gal
>> > lons per
>> hour=0Ahttp://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html=0A=0Ado
>> > not archive=0A=0ABen
>> Haas=0AN801BH=0Awww.haaspowerair.com=0A=0A----------
>> > Original Message ----------=0AFrom: "A. Dennis Savarese"
>> <dsavarese0812@bel
>> > lsouth.net>=0ATo: m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re:
>> M14PEngines
>> > -List: Free Fuel Flow=0ADate: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05
>> -0500=0A=0A--> M14P
>> > Engines-List message posted by: "A. Dennis Savarese"
>> =0A<dsavarese0812@bell
>> > south.net>=0A=0AThe 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold
>> pressure (35"
>> > ) which you =0Atypically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40").
-T
>> > he fuel flow =0Aat the higher manifold pressure will of course
>> increase by
>> > about 2-3 =0Agallons per hour. -However as soon as you back off after
tak
>> > eoff, fuel =0Aconsumption will be as shown on the 360 hp
>> chart.=0ADennis=0A
>> > =0AOn 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:=0A> -->
-M14PEngines-Lis
>> > t message posted by: "William =0A>Halverson"<william@netpros.net
>=0A>=0A>
>> > =0A> Is fuel consumption linear? -I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF
...
>> > have not =0A>ever seen a chart for that engine ...=0A>=0A>
>> Thanks!=0A>=0A>
>> > William Halverson=0A> N355YK=0A> YAK-55=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
>> +-----Original
>> > Message-----=0A> +From: A. Dennis Savarese
>> [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.
>> > net]=0A> +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM=0A> +To:
>> m14pengines-list@
>> > matronics.com=0A> +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A>
>> +=0A>
>> > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: -See attached.=0A> +Dennis=0A>
+=0A>
>> > hose and fittings.=0A> +>=0A> +> -George Coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -CAS
Ltd.=0A
>> > > +>=0A> +> -714 Airport Rd.=0A> +>=0A> +> -Swanton VT 05488=0A>
+>=0A>
>> > -802-868-4465 Fax=0A> +>=0A> +> -george.coy@gmail.com<mailto:
george.coy
>> > @gmail.com>=0A> +>=0A> +> -http://coyafct.com/=0A> +>=0A> +> -SKYPE
geo
>> > rge.coy=0A> +>=0A> +> -*From:*
owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > =0A> +> -[mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On
Behalf
>> > Of=0A> +> -*Sylvain April=0A> +> -*Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011
9:58
>> > AM=0A> +> -*To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com=0A> +> -*Subject:* M14
>> > PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow=0A> +>=0A> +> -Hi all,=0A> +>=0A> +> -I
h
>> > ave this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P 360HP
>> =0Aengine.
>> > =0A> +>=0A> +> -What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the
eng
>> > ine connection.=0A> +> -( Fuel Pump Inlet )=0A> +>=0A> +> -What is the
>> > maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at take off =0Apower.=0A>
+>
>> > =0A> +> -Thanks=0A> +> -Sylvain April=0A> +> -Murphy Moose C-GFFO=0A>
>> > >=0A> +> -*http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?M14PEngines-List*=0A>
+>=0A
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>> > Time: 08:50:04 PM PST US
>> > From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> > 360 HP consumes 41 GPH ??? ............ Wow,,, That's turbine fuel
flows
>> > .. I guess you could if ya left the sump drains locked open . <G>
>> > do not archive
>> >
>> >
>> > Ben Haas
>> > N801BH
>> > www.haaspowerair.com
>> >
>> > ---------- Original Message ----------
>> > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> >
>> > 812@bellsouth.net>
>> >
>> > According to the M14P 360HP manuals, at WOT the 360 HP M14 consumes
>> >
>> > between 37 and 41 GPH. The 400 HP M14 will consume between 43-44 GPH
at
>> >
>> >
>> > WOT. I have also proven these numbers to be accurate for the 360HP
>> >
>> > engine using a fuel flow instrument.
>> > Dennis
>> >
>> > On 4/9/2011 6:02 PM, n801bh@netzero.com wrote:
>> > > This will get you within a few gallons per hour for your fuel burn.
On
>> >
>> > > the Radial you can figure about .43 BSFC.
>> > >
>> > > 400 HP = somewhere around 28 gallons per hour
>> > >
>> > > http://www.ehow.com/how_6315061_calculate-bsfc.html
>> > >
>> > > do not archive
>> > >
>> > > Ben Haas
>> > > N801BH
>> > > www.haaspowerair.com
>> > >
>> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
>> > > From: "A. Dennis Savarese" <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > > To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 17:28:05 -0500
>> > >
>> > > <dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net>
>> > >
>> > > The 400 HP is developed above 880 MM manifold pressure (35") which
you
>> >
>> > > typically only see on takeoff (approx. 1000 mm or 40"). The fuel
flow
>> > > at the higher manifold pressure will of course increase by about 2-3
>> > > gallons per hour. However as soon as you back off after takeoff,
fuel
>> > > consumption will be as shown on the 360 hp chart.
>> > > Dennis
>> > >
>> > > On 4/9/2011 4:44 PM, William Halverson wrote:
>> > > Halverson"<william@netpros.net>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Is fuel consumption linear? I ask because I have a 400HP M14PF ...
>> > > have not ever seen a chart for that engine ...
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks!
>> > > >
>> > > > William Halverson
>> > > > N355YK
>> > > > YAK-55
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > +-----Original Message-----
>> > > > +From: A. Dennis Savarese [mailto:dsavarese0812@bellsouth.net]
>> > > > +Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2011 02:13 PM
>> > > > +To: m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > > +Subject: Re: M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > > +
>> > > > +Regarding the M14 fuel consumption: See attached.
>> > > > +Dennis
>> > > > +
>> > > > +On 4/9/2011 12:16 PM, George Coy wrote:
>> > > > +> You can use AN-6 or -8 hose and fittings.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> George Coy
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> CAS Ltd.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> 714 Airport Rd.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> Swanton VT 05488
>> > > > +>
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>> > > > +>
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>> > > > +>
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>> > > > +>
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>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> http://coyafct.com/
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> SKYPE george.coy
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> *From:*owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com
>> > > > +> [mailto:owner-m14pengines-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf
>> > Of
>> > > > +> *Sylvain April
>> > > > +> *Sent:* Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:58 AM
>> > > > +> *To:* m14pengines-list@matronics.com
>> > > > +> *Subject:* M14PEngines-List: Free Fuel Flow
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> Hi all,
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> I have this question about the fuel flow needed for the M-14P
>> > > 360HP engine.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> What should be the free fuel flow value needed at the engine
>> > > connection.
>> > > > +> ( Fuel Pump Inlet )
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> What is the maximum fuel consumption of the M-14P engine at
take
>> >
>> > > off power.
>> > > > +>
>> > > > +> Thanks
>> > > > +> Sylvain April
>> > > > +> Murphy Moose C-GFFO
>> > > > +>
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