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     1. 02:10 AM - Re: We have wings! (Gene & Tammy)
     2. 02:47 AM - Re: Props for A 65 (Gene & Tammy)
     3. 03:07 AM - Re: Props for A 65 (Gene & Tammy)
     4. 04:01 AM - Re: We have wings! (Skip Gadd)
     5. 04:34 AM - Re: Prop choices for A-65 (Skip Gadd)
     6. 06:15 AM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (shad bell)
     7. 06:28 AM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
     8. 07:47 AM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (Lagowski Morrow)
     9. 08:04 AM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (Don Emch)
    10. 08:14 AM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    11. 10:13 AM - couple of Piets/ GN-1's on Barnstormers  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
    12. 11:43 AM - exhaust manifold [was Re: humped center section] (Dan Yocum)
    13. 12:19 PM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (Doug Dever)
    14. 01:13 PM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (coxwelljon)
    15. 01:27 PM - Re: Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (AMsafetyC@aol.com)
    16. 01:49 PM - Prop choices for Corvair (Michael Groah)
    17. 02:18 PM - Re: lift struts for GN-1 /Pietenpol (coxwelljon)
    18. 03:09 PM - Re: Hanford Piet (Gary Boothe)
    19. 03:45 PM - Re: Ohio Fall Colors (Tim Willis)
    20. 04:42 PM - Re: Ohio Fall Colors (David Paule)
    21. 05:11 PM - Cable travel on elevator (Michael Perez)
    22. 06:12 PM - Re: Prop choices for Corvair (Rick Holland)
    23. 07:33 PM - Re: Hanford Piet ok (jorge lizarraga)
    24. 07:53 PM - Re: Hanford Piet ok (Gary Boothe)
    25. 08:16 PM - Speed Check - was: Ohio Fall Colors (gcardinal)
    26. 08:41 PM - Re: Speed Check - was: Ohio Fall Colors (Gary Boothe)
    27. 08:57 PM - Re: Prop choices for Corvair (shad bell)
    28. 09:20 PM - Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio (shad bell)
    29. 11:50 PM - Re: exhaust manifold [was Re: humped center section] (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: We have wings! | 
      
      
      Awsome Bird!!
      Gene
      Tennessee
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Ben Charvet" <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
      Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 12:16 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      
      > Probably one of the more exciting days in a 5 year Pietenpol build!
      > Ben Charvet
      > Mims, Fl
      > Still hoping to fly in 09
      >
      >
      
      
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      Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
      18:42:00
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Props for A 65 | 
      
      Thanks Ryan,
      As an average, I show 76 mph.  I measured my prop from ground to tip 
      while my bird was in flight attitude and I have 8.5" of clearance.
      I was more interested in climb than I was in speed (the Piet is such a 
      fast ship a few extra mph just doesn't matter) and she really climbs.
      If you like to hand prop with your fingers over the edge of the prop (I 
      don't, I kinda like my fingers attached) then the Anderson prop may not 
      be the prop for you.  The prop edge is sharper than a lot of the others.
      Gene
      N502R (great flying day in Tennessee)
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Ryan Mueller 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:02 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Props for A 65
      
      
        Thanks for the info Gene. You have a sharp looking Piet there, and the 
      prop really sets it off. What speed do you see for cruising at 2150?
      
        Ryan
        .
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      10/20/09 18:42:00
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Props for A 65 | 
      
      
      Hi Tim,
      If you'd seen Western Tennessee yesterday, in full color, you'd never leave.
      The paint is  Poly Fiber.  The white is "Juneau White" and the green is 
      "Everglades Green".
      The heat muffs are "T'ed" into each other and run to the carb.  I really 
      don't think heat into the cockpit would help much, as it's pretty windy in 
      there.
      The stacks are stainless.  I bought the stainless tube and fittings from 
      AS&S.
      Thank you for your kind words.  I'm looking forward to seeing your plane. 
      How about some photo?
      Gene
      N502R
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Tim Willis" <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:29 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Props for A 65
      
      
      > <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Gene,
      > Your plane is a knockout, and the prop really helps the effect.  I can 
      > believe that you and the B-17 were the stars.
      >
      > A couple of unrelated questions:
      > -- Which color white and green on your paint, is the green "Cubby Trainer 
      > Green"?
      > -- Do we see heat muffs on each side for rear exhausts, and if so, how 
      > plumbed, one for carb, one for cockpit heat?  Are your stacks stainless, 
      > and where sourced? (I like your lack of merging exhausts, keeping good 
      > flow, and avoiding custom complexity.)
      >
      > (I am planning white for my wing and much metal work [have that white 
      > 2-part epoxy], and still considering many different bright and/or darker 
      > colors for contrast.)
      > Tim in central TX
      > (still missing TN)
      >
      >
      
      
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      Very nice Ben, Hope to see it in person next April at Sun N Fun.
      Skip
      
      
      > [Original Message]
      > From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
      > To: Pietenpol list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
      > Date: 10/21/2009 2:05:53 PM
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      >
      > Probably one of the more exciting days in a 5 year Pietenpol build!
      > Ben Charvet
      > Mims, Fl
      > Still hoping to fly in 09
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Prop choices for A-65 | 
      
      Thanks for the offer John,
      The prop came with a receipt on Sensenich letter head, with the words  Souvenier
      propeller "Cub style"  as the name of product being sold.
      Yesterday I installed the prop on the GN-1, tied it down, ran it up and than flew
      it. It went up to red line static, came off the ground very quick and climbed
      real good, had to keep backing off the throttle on climb-out. Cruise was only
      about 62 to 64 MPH, and that was at 2200 RPM. The pitch must be about 38 or
      less. I will take it off today and reinstall the McCauly.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: 
      Sent: 10/21/2009 9:43:01 AM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop choices for A-65
      
      
      I am working with an A&P AI on my 0235 build up. He actually works for Sensenich
      in Lancaster one of their repair centers and original launch point of the wood
      and metal prop building companies. I am not certain when I will see him again
      but if you send me a pic and all the info maybe I can get him to shed some
      light on its origin, no promises. He is a rather skidish gentleman and may not
      be interested in supporting the notion of it being air worthy. 
      
      He did tell me that when the business moved to Florida much of the wooden stock
      blanks were sent to the dumpster of which many were recovered by employees who
      collected the blanks, incomplete and not certified props. The one you have may
      have been one of those remnants which was not completed to certification standards
      and was branded as such for liability purposes. To my small and limited
      knowledge on the subject I suspect props that were blemished or not up to company
      standards were marked as non airworthy. I cant say that it would have been
      a deliberate market offering as I suspect building props with flaws for the
      fun of the novelty business would be outside thee company's Philosophy and business
      model. Lancaster county where cash is King.
      
      This information is speculative and based upon hearsay and conjecture and absent
      of fact which would require further investigation by interested parties to verify
      any of the speculative statements made herein.
      
      Not an engineer, rocket scientist scientific genius or legal mind, just me no more
      no less.
      
      John
      
      Do not archive
      
      In a message dated 10/21/2009 8:10:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, skipgadd@earthlink.net
      writes:
      Thanks Dick,
      Sounds like that would be a little better cruise and about the same climb.
      I actually have a Sensenich, got it "thrown in" with an A-65 I bought last week
      for the Piet I am building. The thing is, it was sold by Sensenich as "souvenier
      propeller Cub style" and stamped on the back not airworthy. Which I belive
      means they could not certify it. Two A&P's told me they would fly with the prop,
      I haven't decided yet. There is no pitch number stamped on the prop, it is
      72 inches long.
      Have you killed any deer yet? If not come on down to West Virginia, we have way
      more than we need.
      Skip
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Dick N. 
      Sent: 10/20/2009 11:05:03 PM 
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Prop choices for A-65
      
      
      Hi Skip
      I'm not Jack but I have an A-65 and Sensenich 72x42 also.  I cruise at 75-76 mph,
      climb at 150-200 fpm.
      For anyone else, Culver Props does very nice work, is very customer responsive
      and much cheaper.  I have one on the radial Piet.
      Dick N.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      Centerburg is the geographical center of Ohio, 25 miles north of Columbus
      
      --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net> wrote:
      
      
      From: Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      
      
      I have an interest, even 'tho I'm in N.W. Michigan. Where is Centerberg?-Ji
      m Lagowski
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: shad bell 
      Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:49 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      
      
      Hello Group, I have been thinking of having a pietenpol gathering here at m
      y home airport, and am wondering how many interested people there might be.
      - I was thinking about- next June.- We have plenty of runway and park
      ing, camping if anyone wanted to, and posibly even shower facilities (might
       be able to talk Bill into using his bunkhouse in his hanger).- It would 
      not be a huge event, just a local gathering of the ohio area Pietenpol guys
      , or anyone else that wanted to fly in.- If any of you are interested let
       me know so I can plan accordingly.- If there is enough interest I will p
      lan further, if not oh well.- The airport Ident is OH71, and is located 1
       mile s/w of the town of Centerburg Ohio.- This is just a shoot from the 
      hip idea, and one I have been wanting to do for a little while, since movin
      g in here.- It would be nice to have a gathering close enough that it wou
      ld only be about 2hr or less flight for most guys in the general area.- I
      t
       would be nice to have fun, fly home, and sleep in your own bed.- Let me 
      know if anyone is intrested.
      -
      Shad- "Spiderman" Bell
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro
      nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      
      
      //mail.yahoo.com 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      Shad,
      
      Depending on the date and since I have no airplane to fly yet, its a drive  
      for me, Ohio is not that far, so for the moment I am interested. I may  be 
      able to drag the camper along depending. I am certainly willing to make the  
      trip if all the variable can come together, God willing and the creeks 
      don't  rise! 
      
      You can count me in so far and keep the details coming!
      
      
      Thanks
      
      John
      
      
      In a message dated 10/22/2009 9:16:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      aviatorbell@yahoo.com writes:
      
      Centerburg is the geographical center of Ohio, 25 miles  north of Columbus
      
      --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Lagowski Morrow  <jimdeb@charter.net> wrote:
      
      
      From:  Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>
      Subject: Re:  Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      
      
      I have an interest, even 'tho I'm in N.W.  Michigan. Where is 
      Centerberg?-Jim Lagowski
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: _shad bell_ 
      (http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aviatorbell@yahoo.com)  
      (http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=pietenpol-list@matronics.com)  
      Sent: Wednesday, October 21,  2009 8:49 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List:  Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      
      
      Hello Group, I have been thinking of having a pietenpol  gathering here at 
      my home airport, and am wondering how many  interested people there might 
      be.  I was thinking  about  next June.  We have plenty of runway and  parking,
      
      camping if anyone wanted to, and posibly even shower  facilities (might be 
      able to talk Bill into using his  bunkhouse in his hanger).  It would not be 
      a huge event,  just a local gathering of the ohio area Pietenpol guys, or  
      anyone else that wanted to fly in.  If any of you are  interested let me 
      know so I can plan accordingly.  If  there is enough interest I will plan 
      further, if not oh  well.  The airport Ident is OH71, and is located 1 mile  s/w
      
      of the town of Centerburg Ohio.  This is just a shoot  from the hip idea, 
      and one I have been wanting to do for a  little while, since moving in here.  
      It would be nice to  have a gathering close enough that it would only be 
      about 2hr  or less flight for most guys in the general area.  It  would be nice
      
      to have fun, fly home, and sleep in your own  bed.  Let me know if anyone 
      is intrested.
      
      Shad  "Spiderman" Bell
      
      
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       href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject:  | Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      Thanks-Jim
      do not archive
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: shad bell 
        To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:59 AM
        Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      
      
              Centerburg is the geographical center of Ohio, 25 miles north of 
      Columbus
      
              --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net> 
      wrote:
      
      
                From: Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>
                Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol 
      gathering, Ohio
                To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
                Date: Wednesday, October 21, 2009, 9:29 PM
      
      
                I have an interest, even 'tho I'm in N.W. Michigan. Where is 
      Centerberg?-Jim Lagowski
                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: shad bell 
                  To: Pietenpol Discussion 
                  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:49 PM
                  Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, 
      Ohio
      
      
                        Hello Group, I have been thinking of having a 
      pietenpol gathering here at my home airport, and am wondering how many 
      interested people there might be.  I was thinking about  next June.  We 
      have plenty of runway and parking, camping if anyone wanted to, and 
      posibly even shower facilities (might be able to talk Bill into using 
      his bunkhouse in his hanger).  It would not be a huge event, just a 
      local gathering of the ohio area Pietenpol guys, or anyone else that 
      wanted to fly in.  If any of you are interested let me know so I can 
      plan accordingly.  If there is enough interest I will plan further, if 
      not oh well.  The airport Ident is OH71, and is located 1 mile s/w of 
      the town of Centerburg Ohio.  This is just a shoot from the hip idea, 
      and one I have been wanting to do for a little while, since moving in 
      here.  It would be nice to have a gathering close enough that it would 
      only be about 2hr or less flight for most guys in the general area.  It 
      would be nice to have fun, fly home, and sleep in your own bed.  Let me 
      know if anyone is intrested.
      
                        Shad  "Spiderman" Bell 
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.mat
      ronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      
      Hey Spiderman...
      
      You can count me in.  Probably bring one of the kiddos and looking to "crash" for
      the night.  Ha!
      
      Tell B.S. I'll bring the rain.
      
      Don Emch
      NX899DE
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268928#268928
      
      
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| Subject:  | Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      Shad-I'm game to attend if the weather cooperates that day/weekend.
      
      How about you head to Sandusky County on Sunday if you can for the Chili Fl
      y-In ?    I am hoping to attend,
      even if I have to dress up in a parka with a Husky on my lap to keep warm.
      
      11 AM-2 PM Sunday @
      
      http://www.airnav.com/airport/S24
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
      t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of shad bell
      Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 8:59 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      
      Centerburg is the geographical center of Ohio, 25 miles north of Columbus
      
      --- On Wed, 10/21/09, Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net> wrote:
      
      From: Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      I have an interest, even 'tho I'm in N.W. Michigan. Where is Centerberg?-Ji
      m Lagowski
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: shad bell<http://us.mc657.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=aviatorbell@
      yahoo.com>
      tenpol-list@matronics.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:49 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio
      
      Hello Group, I have been thinking of having a pietenpol gathering here at m
      y home airport, and am wondering how many interested people there might be.
        I was thinking about  next June.  We have plenty of runway and parking, c
      amping if anyone wanted to, and posibly even shower facilities (might be ab
      le to talk Bill into using his bunkhouse in his hanger).  It would not be a
       huge event, just a local gathering of the ohio area Pietenpol guys, or any
      one else that wanted to fly in.  If any of you are interested let me know s
      o I can plan accordingly.  If there is enough interest I will plan further,
       if not oh well.  The airport Ident is OH71, and is located 1 mile s/w of t
      he town of Centerburg Ohio.  This is just a shoot from the hip idea, and on
      e I have been wanting to do for a little while, since moving in here.  It w
      ould be nice to have a gathering close enough that it would only be about 2
      hr or less flight for most guys in the general area.  It would be nice to h
      ave fun, fly home, and sleep in your own bed.  Let me know if anyone is int
      rested.
      
      Shad  "Spiderman" Bell
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matro
      nics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
      
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
      
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| Subject:  | couple of Piets/ GN-1's on Barnstormers  | 
      
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      enpol+Aircamper+A-65+LSA.html> * $8,500 * AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE * RE
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      SMOH (cont a-65) Basic VFR panel, no electrical. Very well built. Extensive
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      fect. Some oil on engine. Shaft seal has small leak, small fabric repair et
      c. Possible delivery. 640lb empty, 450 useful load so its easily a light sp
      ort airplane. Built in 1990, i have airframe log, no builder logs. Airplane
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      PIETENPOL<http://barnstormers.com/classified_368856_Pietenpol.html> * $8,50
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      Clif,
      
      I like the look of your exhaust pipes.  Did you make your own or did you 
      buy them from somewhere?  Mine are starting to rust through, so I'll 
      need new ones real soon...
      
      Thanks,
      Dan
      
      
      Clif Dawson wrote:
      
      <snip>
      
      > I've also attached a pic of my throttle linkage
      > and left side exhaust manifold.
      
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| Subject:  | Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      
      Shad=2C
      
      
      Count me in.  I don't have an airplane to fly=2C but it's not a very far dr
      ive.
      
      Doug Dever
      In beautiful Stow Ohio
      
      
      From: aviatorbell@yahoo.com
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering=2C Ohio
      
      
      Centerburg is the geographical center of Ohio=2C 25 miles north of Columbus
      
      --- On Wed=2C 10/21/09=2C Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net> wrote:
      
      
      From: Lagowski Morrow <jimdeb@charter.net>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering=2C Ohio
      
      
      I have an interest=2C even 'tho I'm in N.W. Michigan. Where is Centerberg?-
      Jim Lagowski
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: shad bell 
      Sent: Wednesday=2C October 21=2C 2009 8:49 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering=2C Ohio
      
      
      Hello Group=2C I have been thinking of having a pietenpol gathering here at
       my home airport=2C and am wondering how many interested people there might
       be.  I was thinking about  next June.  We have plenty of runway and parkin
      g=2C camping if anyone wanted to=2C and posibly even shower facilities (mig
      ht be able to talk Bill into using his bunkhouse in his hanger).  It would 
      not be a huge event=2C just a local gathering of the ohio area Pietenpol gu
      ys=2C or anyone else that wanted to fly in.  If any of you are interested l
      et me know so I can plan accordingly.  If there is enough interest I will p
      lan further=2C if not oh well.  The airport Ident is OH71=2C and is located
       1 mile s/w of the town of Centerburg Ohio.  This is just a shoot from the 
      hip idea=2C and one I have been wanting to do for a little while=2C since m
      oving in here.  It would be nice to have a gathering close enough that it w
      ould only be about 2hr or less flight for most guys in the general area.  I
      t would be nice to have fun=2C fly home=2C and sleep in your own bed.  Let 
      me know if anyone is intrested.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      
      [quote="aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com"]Hello Group, I have been thinking of having a
      pietenpol gathering here at my home airport, and am wondering how many interested
      people there might be.  I was thinking about  next June.  We have plenty
      of runway and parking, camping if anyone wanted to, and posibly even shower facilities
      (might be able to talk Bill into using his bunkhouse in his hanger).
      It would not be a huge event, just a local gathering of the ohio area Pietenpol
      guys, or anyone else that wanted to fly in.  If any of you are interested let
      me know so I can plan accordingly.  If there is enough interest I will plan
      further, if not oh well.  The airport Ident is OH71, and is located 1 mile s/w
      of the town of Centerburg Ohio.  This is just a shoot from the hip idea, and
      one I have been wanting to do for a little while, since moving in here.  It 
      would be nice to have a gathering close enough that it would only be about 2hr
      or less flight for most guys in the general area.  It would be nice to have fun,
      fly home, and sleep in your own bed.  Let me know if anyone is intrested.
      
       Shad  "Spiderman" Bell
      
                 
      > [b]
      
      
      I doubt I'll be flying yet but would be interested.  Road an old Honda 200 cc from
      Remsen Ny to Broadhead last summer.  You would be only 1/2 the distance.
      
      --------
      Jon Coxwell
      Recycle and preserve the planet
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268964#268964
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      I guess that lets me out
      
      john
      
      
      In a message dated 10/22/2009 4:13:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
      coxwelljon@frontiernet.net writes:
      
      -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: "coxwelljon"  
      <coxwelljon@frontiernet.net>
      
      [quote="aviatorbell(at)yahoo.com"]Hello  Group, I have been thinking of 
      having a pietenpol gathering here at my home  airport, and am wondering how 
      many interested people there might be.  I  was thinking about  next June.  We 
      have plenty of runway and  parking, camping if anyone wanted to, and posibly 
      even shower facilities  (might be able to talk Bill into using his bunkhouse 
      in his hanger).  It  would not be a huge event, just a local gathering of 
      the ohio area Pietenpol  guys, or anyone else that wanted to fly in.  If any 
      of you are interested  let me know so I can plan accordingly.  If there is 
      enough interest I  will plan further, if not oh well.  The airport Ident is 
      OH71, and is  located 1 mile s/w of the town of Centerburg Ohio.  This is 
      just a shoot  from the hip idea, and one I have been wanting to do for a little
      
      while, since  moving in here.  It  would be nice to have a gathering close 
      enough  that it would only be about 2hr or less flight for most guys in the 
      general  area.  !
      It would be nice to have fun, fly home, and sleep in your own  bed.  Let me 
      know if anyone is intrested.
      
      Shad   "Spiderman" Bell
      
      
      >  [b]
      
      
      I doubt I'll be flying yet but would be interested.  Road  an old Honda 200 
      cc from Remsen Ny to Broadhead last summer.  You would  be only 1/2 the 
      distance.
      
      --------
      Jon Coxwell
      Recycle and  preserve the planet
      
      
      Read this topic online  here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268964#268964
      
      
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| Subject:  | Prop choices for Corvair | 
      
      
      Ok.. with all this talk about props for A65s I thought I would ask about props
      on Corvair powered Piets.
      
      What are those that are flying with them using?
      
      Manufacturer :
      Diam/Pitch :
      Static RPM :
      WOT RPM :
      Notes on performance numbers and if you're happy with the prop or you'd do something
      different next time.
      
      Thanks
      Mike Groah
      Tulare CA
      (working on FWF among other things)
      
      
            
      
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| Subject:  | Re: lift struts for GN-1 /Pietenpol | 
      
      
      [quote="moretesantiago(at)yahoo.c"]Hi Jon,
      
       I don't know if I can help you, since our Piet is not flying, but we have round
      lift struts, 1"OD .049 wall, 1025 steel.  That's stronger than necessary.
       Saludos
      
       Santiago
      
                
      Encontra las mejores recetas con Yahoo! Cocina. 
       http://ar.mujer.yahoo.com/cocina/ 
      > [b]
      
      
      The round set of struts that came with my project are 1 1/8" O.D. x .035.  I do
      not know what grade of steel they are and really do not know how to determine
      that.  I would like to think it is 4130 but will probably  uses a lower grade
      for my calculations.
      
      --------
      Jon Coxwell
      Recycle and preserve the planet
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268976#268976
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hanford Piet | 
      
      
      Jorge,
      
      You're making great progress!
      
      Gary
      Do not archive
      --------------------------
      Gary A. Boothe
      Sales Manager
      CALPLY Architectural Products Division
      Sent from BlackBerry Wireless Device
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
      Sent: Wed Oct 21 20:35:37 2009
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      do you have a pictured about these plane I like to see my I think looks
      like the black falcon from fly boys seyou jorge from hanford
      
      --- On Wed, 10/21/09, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
      
      From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      She looks like the red baron!!!! I have snoopy on my tail feathers so
      look out LOL!!!Nice and clean looking aircraft,a real beauty!!!
      
      
      From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
      Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 1:16:47 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      Probably one of the more exciting days in a 5 year Pietenpol build!
      Ben Charvet
      Mims, Fl
      Still hoping to fly in 09
      
      
            
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Fall Colors | 
      
      
      Shad,
      Thanks for the great mental picture.
      Someone on this site wrote of matching his shadow speed to the speed of tractors
      on the ground, so that his shadow lay over the farmer for a time.  The farmer
      would laugh when he saw the Piet and the trick. This might have been Greg Cardinal
      or Oscar Zuniga.  I surely recall each of them describing lining up for
      [mental] strafing runs and one of them (guess) has a V-notch gunsight in the
      cabane X-cables.  To "shadow" a tractor, maybe there was a very heavy headwind,
      they were fully throttled back, and/or slipping down a shadow vector?
      No jokes now, about how easy it is for a Deere to outrun a Piet.
      Tim in central TX
      do not archive
      
      -----Original Message----- 
      From: shad bell 
      Sent: Oct 21, 2009 8:33 PM 
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Fall Colors 
      
      
      Well I got the spider out of my pants, I mean fuel gauge and went flying today.
      The fall colors look like they have peaked here in central Ohio, and it was
      in the 70's today, so flying doesn't get too much better than that.  The old Corvair
      is running great, and pulls the Piet around at an honest 80mph, and about
      4.5-4.8 gph.  It is always supprising here in the midwest around harvest time
      to see how far spread the dust is when hundreds of combines are out cuting
      off beans, and corn as far as you can see.  Tonight the dust was as far as I could
      see, and just looks like a light haze.   Looking down at the fields below
      it is always tempting to go surprize the farmer on the tractor with a buzz job,
      but with my luck it would be an off duty faa guy with a keen eye for tail numbers,
      so I just fly along at 500 ft and enjoy waving to the people who look
      up.  
      
      Shad
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Fall Colors | 
      
      
      Brings to mind the time I was bucking a headwind in my old Cessna 170. I 
      noticed that I was passing a truck and that made me happy. Then I realized 
      that it was a farm truck on a dirt road.....
      
      David Paule
      
      
      > <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Shad,
      > Thanks for the great mental picture.
      > Someone on this site wrote of matching his shadow speed to the speed of 
      > tractors on the ground, so that his shadow lay over the farmer for a time. 
      > The farmer would laugh when he saw the Piet and the trick. This might have 
      > been Greg Cardinal or Oscar Zuniga.  I surely recall each of them 
      > describing lining up for [mental] strafing runs and one of them (guess) 
      > has a V-notch gunsight in the cabane X-cables.  To "shadow" a tractor, 
      > maybe there was a very heavy headwind, they were fully throttled back, 
      > and/or slipping down a shadow vector?
      > No jokes now, about how easy it is for a Deere to outrun a Piet.
      > Tim in central TX
      > do not archive
      >
      > -----Original Message----- 
      > From: shad bell
      > Sent: Oct 21, 2009 8:33 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Fall Colors
      >
      >
      > Well I got the spider out of my pants, I mean fuel gauge and went flying 
      > today.  The fall colors look like they have peaked here in central Ohio, 
      > and it was in the 70's today, so flying doesn't get too much better than 
      > that.  The old Corvair is running great, and pulls the Piet around at an 
      > honest 80mph, and about 4.5-4.8 gph.  It is always supprising here in the 
      > midwest around harvest time to see how far spread the dust is when 
      > hundreds of combines are out cuting off beans, and corn as far as you can 
      > see.  Tonight the dust was as far as I could see, and just looks like a 
      > light haze.   Looking down at the fields below it is always tempting to go 
      > surprize the farmer on the tractor with a buzz job, but with my luck it 
      > would be an off duty faa guy with a keen eye for tail numbers, so I just 
      > fly along at 500 ft and enjoy waving to the people who look up.
      >
      > Shad
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Cable travel on elevator | 
      
      I am curious if someone can go out to their plane and see how far their ele
      vator cable travels with full stick throw...full up to full down. I am tryi
      ng to get a feel for how far my push/pull tubes need to move.- Not worrie
      d about stick travel, just the-linear distance the cable moves.
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Prop choices for Corvair | 
      
      Tennessee 66x30  2950 static at 6700 ft. Will report static thrust when I
      find a big enough fish scale.
      
      Rick
      
      On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Michael Groah <dskogrover@yahoo.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > *Ok.. with all this talk about props for A65s I thought I would ask about props
      on Corvair powered Piets.
      >
      > What are those that are flying with them using?
      >
      > Manufacturer :
      > Diam/Pitch :
      > Static RPM :
      > WOT RPM :
      > Notes on performance numbers and if you're happy with the prop or you'd do something
      different next time.
      >
      > Thanks
      > Mike Groah
      > Tulare CA
      > (working on FWF among other things)
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
      
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      Rick Holland
      Castle Rock, Colorado
      
      "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hanford Piet ok | 
      
      tanks Gary please tallmy if you found problems, in these pict, before go fo
      rward I hope you like- seyou jorge
      
      --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Gary Boothe <gboothe@calply.com> wrote:
      
      From: Gary Boothe <gboothe@calply.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hanford Piet
      
      
      Jorge,
      
      You're making great progress!
      
      Gary
      Do not archive
      --------------------------
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      Sales Manager
      CALPLY Architectural Products Division
      Sent from BlackBerry Wireless Device
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
      Sent: Wed Oct 21 20:35:37 2009
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      do you have a pictured about these plane I like to see my I think looks
      like the black falcon from fly boys seyou jorge from hanford
      
      --- On Wed, 10/21/09, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
      
      From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      She looks like the red baron!!!! I have snoopy on my tail feathers so
      look out-- LOL!!!Nice and clean looking aircraft,a real beauty!!!
      
      
      From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
      Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 1:16:47 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      Probably one of the more exciting days in a 5 year Pietenpol build!
      Ben Charvet
      Mims, Fl
      Still hoping to fly in 09
      
      
      - - - 
      
      
      le, List Admin.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Hanford Piet ok | 
      
      
      I'll look closer, but it looked good at first look.
      
      Do not archive
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      Sales Manager
      CALPLY Architectural Products Division
      Sent from BlackBerry Wireless Device
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
      Sent: Thu Oct 22 19:24:08 2009
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hanford Piet ok
      
      tanks Gary please tallmy if you found problems, in these pict, before go
      forward I hope you like seyou jorge
      
      --- On Thu, 10/22/09, Gary Boothe <gboothe@calply.com> wrote:
      
      From: Gary Boothe <gboothe@calply.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Hanford Piet
      
      
      Jorge,
      
      You're making great progress!
      
      Gary
      Do not archive
      --------------------------
      Gary A. Boothe
      Sales Manager
      CALPLY Architectural Products Division
      Sent from BlackBerry Wireless Device
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
      Sent: Wed Oct 21 20:35:37 2009
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      do you have a pictured about these plane I like to see my I think looks
      like the black falcon from fly boys seyou jorge from hanford
      
      --- On Wed, 10/21/09, H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com> wrote:
      
      From: H RULE <harvey.rule@rogers.com>
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      She looks like the red baron!!!! I have snoopy on my tail feathers so
      look out LOL!!!Nice and clean looking aircraft,a real beauty!!!
      
      
      From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
      Sent: Wed, October 21, 2009 1:16:47 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: We have wings!
      
      Probably one of the more exciting days in a 5 year Pietenpol build!
      Ben Charvet
      Mims, Fl
      Still hoping to fly in 09
      
      
         
      
      
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| Subject:  | Ohio Fall Colors | 
      
      
      Thread was drifting so I changed the subject.....
      
      I've never flown slow enough to shadow a tractor but a simple groundspeed 
      check is to parallel the interstate highway and place your shadow directly 
      over traffic. They will see the shadow and think it is a law enforcement 
      aircraft. Traffic will invariably slow to the posted speed limit at which 
      time you can judge your groundspeed by comparing your shadow speed to the 
      traffic speed.
      
      Greg C.
      
      P.S. Just got back from a 5 day cruise onboard the USS Ronald Reagan 
      traveling from Pearl Harbor to San Diego. Watched F-18's doing supersonic 
      fly-bys at <500 agl within 1000' of the ship. No shadowing of John Deere's 
      with an F-18. Wickedly cool stuff!
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Tim Willis" <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:35 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Fall Colors
      
      
      > <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Shad,
      > Thanks for the great mental picture.
      > Someone on this site wrote of matching his shadow speed to the speed of 
      > tractors on the ground, so that his shadow lay over the farmer for a time. 
      > The farmer would laugh when he saw the Piet and the trick. This might have 
      > been Greg Cardinal or Oscar Zuniga.  I surely recall each of them 
      > describing lining up for [mental] strafing runs and one of them (guess) 
      > has a V-notch gunsight in the cabane X-cables.  To "shadow" a tractor, 
      > maybe there was a very heavy headwind, they were fully throttled back, 
      > and/or slipping down a shadow vector?
      > No jokes now, about how easy it is for a Deere to outrun a Piet.
      > Tim in central TX
      > do not archive
      >
      > -----Original Message----- 
      > From: shad bell
      > Sent: Oct 21, 2009 8:33 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Fall Colors
      >
      >
      > Well I got the spider out of my pants, I mean fuel gauge and went flying 
      > today.  The fall colors look like they have peaked here in central Ohio, 
      > and it was in the 70's today, so flying doesn't get too much better than 
      > that.  The old Corvair is running great, and pulls the Piet around at an 
      > honest 80mph, and about 4.5-4.8 gph.  It is always supprising here in the 
      > midwest around harvest time to see how far spread the dust is when 
      > hundreds of combines are out cuting off beans, and corn as far as you can 
      > see.  Tonight the dust was as far as I could see, and just looks like a 
      > light haze.   Looking down at the fields below it is always tempting to go 
      > surprize the farmer on the tractor with a buzz job, but with my luck it 
      > would be an off duty faa guy with a keen eye for tail numbers, so I just 
      > fly along at 500 ft and enjoy waving to the people who look up.
      >
      > Shad
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ohio Fall Colors | 
      
      
      Greg,
      
      Went on one of those tiger cruises myself in '96! It was a great week!
      
      Do not archive
      --------------------------
      Gary A. Boothe
      Sales Manager
      CALPLY Architectural Products Division
      Sent from BlackBerry Wireless Device
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      <owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
      Sent: Thu Oct 22 20:16:02 2009
      Subject: Speed Check - was: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Fall Colors
      
      <gcardinal@comcast.net>
      
      Thread was drifting so I changed the subject.....
      
      I've never flown slow enough to shadow a tractor but a simple
      groundspeed 
      check is to parallel the interstate highway and place your shadow
      directly 
      over traffic. They will see the shadow and think it is a law enforcement
      
      aircraft. Traffic will invariably slow to the posted speed limit at
      which 
      time you can judge your groundspeed by comparing your shadow speed to
      the 
      traffic speed.
      
      Greg C.
      
      P.S. Just got back from a 5 day cruise onboard the USS Ronald Reagan 
      traveling from Pearl Harbor to San Diego. Watched F-18's doing
      supersonic 
      fly-bys at <500 agl within 1000' of the ship. No shadowing of John
      Deere's 
      with an F-18. Wickedly cool stuff!
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Tim Willis" <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 5:35 PM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Fall Colors
      
      
      > <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
      >
      > Shad,
      > Thanks for the great mental picture.
      > Someone on this site wrote of matching his shadow speed to the speed
      of 
      > tractors on the ground, so that his shadow lay over the farmer for a
      time. 
      > The farmer would laugh when he saw the Piet and the trick. This might
      have 
      > been Greg Cardinal or Oscar Zuniga.  I surely recall each of them 
      > describing lining up for [mental] strafing runs and one of them
      (guess) 
      > has a V-notch gunsight in the cabane X-cables.  To "shadow" a tractor,
      
      > maybe there was a very heavy headwind, they were fully throttled back,
      
      > and/or slipping down a shadow vector?
      > No jokes now, about how easy it is for a Deere to outrun a Piet.
      > Tim in central TX
      > do not archive
      >
      > -----Original Message----- 
      > From: shad bell
      > Sent: Oct 21, 2009 8:33 PM
      > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Ohio Fall Colors
      >
      >
      > Well I got the spider out of my pants, I mean fuel gauge and went
      flying 
      > today.  The fall colors look like they have peaked here in central
      Ohio, 
      > and it was in the 70's today, so flying doesn't get too much better
      than 
      > that.  The old Corvair is running great, and pulls the Piet around at
      an 
      > honest 80mph, and about 4.5-4.8 gph.  It is always supprising here in
      the 
      > midwest around harvest time to see how far spread the dust is when 
      > hundreds of combines are out cuting off beans, and corn as far as you
      can 
      > see.  Tonight the dust was as far as I could see, and just looks like
      a 
      > light haze.   Looking down at the fields below it is always tempting
      to go 
      > surprize the farmer on the tractor with a buzz job, but with my luck
      it 
      > would be an off duty faa guy with a keen eye for tail numbers, so I
      just 
      > fly along at 500 ft and enjoy waving to the people who look up.
      >
      > Shad
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Prop choices for Corvair | 
      
      NX92GB has a Hegy 66-30, and it runs along at about 80mph, drinks about 4.5
      -5.0 gph, and sounds like a cessna 210 when it goes by.- I don't know if 
      you can get a Hegy anymore, ours was made in 03 i believe by Ray Hegy's gra
      ndson, in Marfa Texas.
      -
      Shad=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Interest in a Pietenpol gathering, Ohio | 
      
      
      Mike, I gotta work this sunday or I would love to go.- The little whipper
       snapper keeps me busy, and have not had as much time to fly this year, but
       I try to sneek an hour here and there.- This weather has been lousy the 
      past couple weeks, I guess it's time to rig up the pre-heater, and get out 
      the coveralls so I can go freeze some buggers to my upper lip, If i go down
       I guess I could eat them to survive for a couple days.- It souds like th
      ere is enough interest so I will start initial planning of the new "Buckeye
       Pietenpol Gathering", souds like there is a good possibility of having at 
      least 6-10 piets.- By the way I read your barnstormers e-mail, I actually
       went down to Bills to get fuel here at the airport, and took a look at his
       piet projects.- The fuselage is built, tail feathers built, and he has 2
       set of ribs. There is also another set of fuselage sides built, but not sk
      inned in plywood yet, and the completed fuslage is wider than plans by
       about 2 inches or so.- Any way enjoy the chili on sunday, and don't forg
      et your Tum-ta-tum-tum-tums.
      -
      Shad
      -
      Shad=0A=0A=0A      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: humped center section] | 
      
      I made them. I found a local outlet for mandrel bent
      steel tubing elbows and  U's. I forget how much but
      not expensive so if you don't get it right the first time
      it's not a big expense.
      
      I bought a 6" channel piece from metalsupermarket,
      measured and drilled bolt holes from a cardboard
      template taken directly from the engine. I made up the
      front tube assembly with a long enough tube to go as
      far back as I wanted the exhaust to go with the straight
      part parallel to the flange.Then I fit the rear tube to that
      and it's flange. This part is really picky!
      
      Once that was fitted I marked all around that joint and
      cut out the straight tube to fit. Fiddled with this quite
      a bit too. This was spot welded then checked for fit on
      the engine. Once good and back on the jig it was fully
      welded. My welding is structuraly sound but not all
      that pretty so I filed and ground it till it was. It appears
      that wasn't such a great idea. :-) It looks real nice in the
      pics but isn't so hot in real life. Oh well.
      
      Oh yes, make sure your horizontal piping is parallel to
      the plane, not the engine if the engine is angled down
      at all.
      
      Clif
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dan Yocum" <yocum@fnal.gov>
      Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 11:40 AM
      Subject: exhaust manifold [was Re: Pietenpol-List: humped center section]
      
      
      >
      > Clif,
      >
      > I like the look of your exhaust pipes.  Did you make your own or did you
      > buy them from somewhere?  Mine are starting to rust through, so I'll
      > need new ones real soon...
      >
      > Thanks,
      > Dan
      >
      >
      > Clif Dawson wrote:
      >
      > <snip>
      >
      >> I've also attached a pic of my throttle linkage
      >> and left side exhaust manifold.
      >
      > -- 
      > Dan Yocum
      > Fermilab  630.840.6509
      > yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
      > Fermilab.  Just zeros and ones.
      >
      >
      
      
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