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1. 12:58 AM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leather (Gerry Holland)
2. 09:20 AM - Re: Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leathe (Michael Perez)
3. 09:50 AM - Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming leather (Tim Willis)
4. 10:33 AM - here goes--just what small planes didn't need (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
5. 10:40 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
6. 10:41 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (helspersew@aol.com)
7. 10:42 AM - Red Betsy? (Jim Ash)
8. 10:50 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (Gary Boothe)
9. 11:00 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (Dortch, Steven D MAJ NG NG NGB)
10. 11:04 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (Isablcorky@aol.com)
11. 11:22 AM - the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
12. 11:23 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (CozyGirrrl@aol.com)
13. 11:41 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (Gerry Holland)
14. 11:42 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (flea)
15. 11:44 AM - Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (flea)
16. 01:13 PM - PIETEN-38 (JERRY GROGAN)
17. 01:30 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (taildrags)
18. 01:31 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Jack Phillips)
19. 01:34 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Gary Boothe)
20. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: PIETEN-38 (Ed G.)
21. 01:49 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (TOM STINEMETZE)
22. 01:59 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation])
23. 02:03 PM - Introduction and invite from John Gaertner (John Gaertner)
24. 02:10 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Bill Church)
25. 02:24 PM - Re: Introduction and invite from John Gaertner (Jeff Boatright)
26. 02:26 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Wayne Bressler)
27. 02:34 PM - Re: the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't (bryan green)
28. 02:35 PM - Re: Introduction and invite from John Gaertner (John Gaertner)
29. 02:38 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Gary Boothe)
30. 03:55 PM - Sky Scout? (Michael Silvius)
31. 04:10 PM - Re: Sky Scout? (Gene Rambo)
32. 04:23 PM - Re: Sky Scout? (Gary Boothe)
33. 04:41 PM - Re: Sky Scout? (Kip and Beth Gardner)
34. 04:41 PM - Re: the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't (Kip and Beth Gardner)
35. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need (Rick Holland)
36. 04:46 PM - Re: Re: PIETEN-38 (Rick Holland)
37. 05:26 PM - Re: Sky Scout? (Wayne Bressler)
38. 05:26 PM - Re: Sky Scout? (Wayne Bressler)
39. 06:12 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Jack)
40. 07:27 PM - Corvair Cowl Info 1 (kevinpurtee)
41. 07:28 PM - Corvair Cowl Info 2 (kevinpurtee)
42. 07:29 PM - Corvair Cowl Info 3 (kevinpurtee)
43. 07:30 PM - Corvair Cowl Info 4 (kevinpurtee)
44. 07:32 PM - Corvair Cowl Info 5 (kevinpurtee)
45. 07:33 PM - Corvair Cowl Info 6 - Last One (kevinpurtee)
46. 07:41 PM - Re: Corvair Cowl Info 5 (Rick Holland)
47. 07:43 PM - Re: PIETEN-38 (Clif Dawson)
48. 07:54 PM - Re: Red Betsy? (Pieti Lowell)
49. 11:50 PM - Re: Red Betsy? (ivan.todorovic)
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| Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leather
Dan Hi!
Coaming looks great. Not sure about the Pilot!
The saving grace is the PROPER Bib type work wear! That=B9s why it all worked
out well!
I start on my version very soon so thanks for the detail of the job and the
continuing inspiration.
Regards
Gerry
Gerry Holland
07808 402404
gholland@content-stream.co.uk
Based at White Ox Mead, Near Bath, UK
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| Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with |
coaming leathe
Nice to see how it fits. I am about that same size, (5'9" 165#)- My seat
is lower then plans because I plan on using some thicker foam to sit on. To
find the height I want, I'll just change the foam.
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Looks nice!
--- On Thu, 2/18/10, Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca> wrote:
From: Clif Dawson <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference w
ith coaming leathe
Well, I'm 5' 8" also and 155 lb. I sit almost exactly the
same with a 1" foam on the seat.
Clif
"My soul is in the sky." ~ William Shakespeare
>
> I've got to agree with that... I'm pretty sure I'll be sticking waaay out
,
>- >
> taildrags wrote:
>> Dan; I'm actually kind of surprised that you sit so low in the cockpit.
>> I don't have my airplane here at the moment or I'd go out and check, but
>> it seems like I sit quite a bit higher in the cockpit than your picture
>> shows.- Your cockpit looks like a GREAT fit!
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming |
leather
Dan,
It looks like your position ~ your coaming, your clothing (insulated coveralls?)
and your facial array are all set for winter flying. BRRR!
The metal and leather look great, and you look well and pleased with it all. Good
for you.
Tim in central TX
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-----Original Message-----
From: helspersew@aol.com
Sent: Feb 17, 2010 8:20 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Quell those fears- shoulder interference with coaming
leather
Hello all you good people, (an assumption)
There was a question raised, about how one's shoulders and upper torso would interfere
with the "pit"- shaped leather that forms the oval perimeter of the coaming
on the Piet. Here is a photo of how it looks on a handsome, 150 lb. man,
5'-8" tall.
Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL
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| Subject: | here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
Now we'll be banned from flying little planes around office buildings with
more than 2 stories.
I can see some FAA rule being passed yet again to stop the threat of us lit
tle aeroplanes
doing damage.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586581,00.html
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
Nah, only if you owe taxes or about to be audited =)
In a message dated 2/18/2010 12:35:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov writes:
Now we=99ll be banned from flying little planes around office buildi
ngs with
more than 2 stories.
I can see some FAA rule being passed yet again to stop the threat of us
little aeroplanes
doing damage.
_http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586581,00.html_
(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586581,00.html)
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
The answer is obvious- mandatory fences (with barbed wire) around all airp
orts, Gov't security guards to interviewv all pilots as to state of mind
before flight.
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From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation] <michael.d.cu
y@nasa.gov>
Sent: Thu, Feb 18, 2010 12:31 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: here goes--just what small planes didn't need
Now we=99ll be banned from flying little planes around office buildi
ngs with more than 2 stories.
I can see some FAA rule being passed yet again to stop the threat of us li
ttle aeroplanes
doing damage.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586581,00.html
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A few years back, the topic of a movie called 'Red Betsy' came up on this list.
I just asked my wife to add it to our NetFlix list, but NetFlix doesn't know
anything about it.
Does anybody know what happened to this one? I always thought the movie business
was about 90 percent marketing, but that seems to be the exception here.
Jim
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| Subject: | here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
We're OK. It was described as, ".low and fast."
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Michael
D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: here goes--just what small planes didn't need
Now we'll be banned from flying little planes around office buildings with
more than 2 stories.
I can see some FAA rule being passed yet again to stop the threat of us
little aeroplanes
doing damage.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586581,00.html
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
If a revolt starts this guy might be the revolter's first martyr!
Sad thing for him, his family, and General Aviation.
I do think we might need to see what AOPA and the EAA look at for reaction. Should
we contact our elected reps and remind them that we fly planes and don't hit
buildings! Indeed a Ryder rental truck could have done a great deal more damage.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
We should be thankful that a Piet wasn't used
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| Subject: | the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't |
Aha-Chrissi called it first. The guy left a suicide note grumbling about
the IRS and US Gov't.
Evidently he burned his own home down before taking ruining a perfectly goo
d airplane and parts
of the IRS building.
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
Well, "Low and slow" might be interpreted as you were trying to sneak up
on
the target =)
But then, if they did say low and slow everybody would be looking for the
"Fly'n Chebby"
...Chrissi
In a message dated 2/18/2010 12:52:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
gboothe5@comcast.net writes:
We=99re OK. It was described as, =9Clow and fast
=9D
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cuy, Mich
ael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC
Aerospace Corporation]
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 10:32 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: here goes--just what small planes didn't need
Now we=99ll be banned from flying little planes around office build
ings with
more than 2 stories.
I can see some FAA rule being passed yet again to stop the threat of us
little aeroplanes
doing damage.
_http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586581,00.html_
(http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,586581,00.html)
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
The answer is obvious- mandatory fences (with barbed wire) around all
airports, Gov't security guards to interview all pilots as to state of mind
before flight.
As ridiculous as Dan=B9s premise sounds, that=B9s exactly what is being
envisioned here in UK and wider across Europe.
My simple Airstrip 1700=B9 X 100=B9 and set remotely at 520=B9 elevation way out
in country side is muted to maybe require secure fencing and security
presence through patrolling. I have 3 Aircraft based there. We already have
an Annual Inspection of Site and Movements book by County Police Department
responsible for Ports and UK Access. That has not been a problem but again,
like you where is it going to lead. I hope a level headed investigation goe
s
into your incident.
Regards
Gerry
Gerry Holland
07808 402404
gholland@content-stream.co.uk
Based at White Ox Mead, Near Bath, UK
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
We're all going to have to check in two hours before our flight to clear TSA, and
only after completion of a flight plan and the mandatory seven day waiting
period.
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
A ryder truck is cliche'
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In the last month I have a friend building a Pietenpol close to me and
he had purchased a fuselage already built. I went over to look at his
airplane and was very jealous. Very nice work. He wanted me to come over
again and look at the fuselage, but before I had the chance he called me
up and asked if I wanted it. He was going to build another one. So I
accepted his offer and I am thinking of replacing my fuselage with the
one he gave me.
Anyway I told my dad about the extra Pietenpol fuselage I have and he
just jokingly said put two body's on the plane and fly 4 people. So I
have been working on the idea and the only problem I see is a little
stress in the tail when you might land on just one body in a cross wind.
I have already named the airplane the Pieten-38. It would have 4 sets of
controls so all could fly the plane. I don't think it would qualify for
Light Sport anymore because of 4 places and two engines. With the wide
stance on the ground it should handle quite well. Of course you would
need a 4 place intercom system so all could talk. And you could instruct
3 people at once if they had some ownership of the plane. You could get
your high performance, twin, and taildrager indorcment all at one time.
I just haven't decided yet what to do.
I have attached a concept picture
Jerry
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Hah-! That is something else! But why stop there? Put a full panel in it and
put the thing on floats and get your multi, sea, land, instrument, and everything
else in it! Only thing lacking would be cowl flaps and controllable pitch
prop and the horsepower (plus retracts) and you could get your complex, high
performance too.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
San Antonio, TX
Air Camper NX41CC
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287017#287017
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Cool! Two Corvairs gives double the chance of a crankshaft snapping
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JERRY GROGAN
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: PIETEN-38
In the last month I have a friend building a Pietenpol close to me and he
had purchased a fuselage already built. I went over to look at his airplane
and was very jealous. Very nice work. He wanted me to come over again and
look at the fuselage, but before I had the chance he called me up and asked
if I wanted it. He was going to build another one. So I accepted his offer
and I am thinking of replacing my fuselage with the one he gave me.
Anyway I told my dad about the extra Pietenpol fuselage I have and he just
jokingly said put two body's on the plane and fly 4 people. So I have been
working on the idea and the only problem I see is a little stress in the
tail when you might land on just one body in a cross wind. I have already
named the airplane the Pieten-38. It would have 4 sets of controls so all
could fly the plane. I don't think it would qualify for Light Sport anymore
because of 4 places and two engines. With the wide stance on the ground it
should handle quite well. Of course you would need a 4 place intercom system
so all could talk. And you could instruct 3 people at once if they had some
ownership of the plane. You could get your high performance, twin, and
taildrager indorcment all at one time. I just haven't decided yet what to
do.
I have attached a concept picture
Jerry
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Jerry,
You get an 'A' for original thinking, but..GOOD HEAVENS, MAN! Isn't one Gary
& Shad Bell enough?
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JERRY GROGAN
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 1:09 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: PIETEN-38
In the last month I have a friend building a Pietenpol close to me and he
had purchased a fuselage already built. I went over to look at his airplane
and was very jealous. Very nice work. He wanted me to come over again and
look at the fuselage, but before I had the chance he called me up and asked
if I wanted it. He was going to build another one. So I accepted his offer
and I am thinking of replacing my fuselage with the one he gave me.
Anyway I told my dad about the extra Pietenpol fuselage I have and he just
jokingly said put two body's on the plane and fly 4 people. So I have been
working on the idea and the only problem I see is a little stress in the
tail when you might land on just one body in a cross wind. I have already
named the airplane the Pieten-38. It would have 4 sets of controls so all
could fly the plane. I don't think it would qualify for Light Sport anymore
because of 4 places and two engines. With the wide stance on the ground it
should handle quite well. Of course you would need a 4 place intercom system
so all could talk. And you could instruct 3 people at once if they had some
ownership of the plane. You could get your high performance, twin, and
taildrager indorcment all at one time. I just haven't decided yet what to
do.
I have attached a concept picture
Jerry
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Toushea Oscar... I could see that comeing.....
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: PIETEN-38
> From: taildrags@hotmail.com
> Date: Thu=2C 18 Feb 2010 13:30:19 -0800
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hah-! That is something else! But why stop there? Put a full panel in it
and put the thing on floats and get your multi=2C sea=2C land=2C instrument
=2C and everything else in it! Only thing lacking would be cowl flaps and c
ontrollable pitch prop and the horsepower (plus retracts) and you could get
your complex=2C high performance too.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio=2C TX
> Air Camper NX41CC
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287017#287017
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Good one Jerry. Boy I wish I knew whether to take you seriously or not!
However, to be a true Pieten38 it would have to have a third fuselage in
the middle where the pilot would sit. THEN it would be a 5-place
airplane.
Stinemetze
N328X
>>the Pieten-38.
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Nice photoshop work Jerry. Be sure to show us what your paint scheme wi
ll look like soon, okay ?
Shad Bell is really going to like being two. One of him can stay home, wa
tch his child and keep his wife happy and the other of him can go flying an
d to fly-in's all around the land this summer ! Does this mean Shad get
s another deduction in 2010 ? I'm seeing double.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Introduction and invite from John Gaertner |
Hello,
I would like to introduce myself and invite anyone who is interested to visit our blog about our Air Camper build out. Anyone can visit and contribute to the blog at: http://pietenpolbuildingproject.blogspot.com/ .
My firm, Blue Swallow Aircraft, LLC specializes in building historical aircraft
and parts is helping a local individual with his Model A powered Pietenpol Air
Camper building project. My background is in the professional aviation museum
field including a number of years as Curator of the EAA Museum in Oshkosh, home
of the Pietenpol hangar and planes.
Blue Swallow Aircraft LLC offers comprehensive wood working workshop for aircraft
builders and covers everything from grading lumber to making steaming jigs
and routing out profiles. You can learn more about our services at our web site.
I look forward to reading your threads in the coming weeks and months.
Sincerely,
John Gaertner
Blue Swallow Aircraft, LLC
www.BlueSwallowAircraft.com
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Well, Jerry, I can see two other minor problems with your concept (in addition
to the "little stress on the tail").
One is the co-ordination of the two pilots. Getting them to both look left at the
same time would be a challenge. Synchronized piloting?
The other problem is the discontinuity of the shadow cast by such a craft.
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction and invite from John Gaertner |
John,
Welcome aboard!
You may want to include a link to Chris Tracey's website:
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/
There are tons of photos there that have helped a lot of builders.
Jeff
--
Jeff Boatright
"Now let's think about this..."
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It could be more aptly named the Peiten-82, similar to the twin
Mustang, F-82. Right?
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:47 PM, "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
> Good one Jerry. Boy I wish I knew whether to take you seriously or
> not! However, to be a true Pieten38 it would have to have a third
> fuselage in the middle where the pilot would sit. THEN it would be
> a 5-place airplane.
>
> Stinemetze
> N328X
>
> >>the Pieten-38.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't |
I agree with Patton on the Martyr crap. I just hope the next crazy uses
a leaf blower I hate um.
Do not archive
Bryan Green
Elgin SC
----- Original Message -----
From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:17 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't
Aha-Chrissi called it first. The guy left a suicide note grumbling
about the IRS and US Gov't.
Evidently he burned his own home down before taking ruining a
perfectly good airplane and parts
of the IRS building.
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| Subject: | Re: Introduction and invite from John Gaertner |
Take a look, it is done! Thank you! That is what we are looking for...
John Gaertner
Blue Swallow Aircraft, LLC
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Yeah, I can see it now.conversation with a young designer, post WWII:
"Father, the Company has me under a lot of pressure to design something new;
but everyone knows that the P-51 is the best design ever."
Father (being the smart-a__ that he is): "Well, then, Son, if the Mustang is
so great, why not just join two together, then you'll have twice the
airplane."
Jerry - sound familiar?
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
Do not archive
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Bressler
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: PIETEN-38
It could be more aptly named the Peiten-82, similar to the twin Mustang,
F-82. Right?
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On Feb 18, 2010, at 4:47 PM, "TOM STINEMETZE" <TOMS@mcpcity.com> wrote:
Good one Jerry. Boy I wish I knew whether to take you seriously or not!
However, to be a true Pieten38 it would have to have a third fuselage in the
middle where the pilot would sit. THEN it would be a 5-place airplane.
Stinemetze
N328X
>>the Pieten-38.
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Fly Baby.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Silvius<mailto:silvius@gwi.net>
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com<mailto:pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout?
<silvius@gwi.net<mailto:silvius@gwi.net>>
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No grandson? Deal's off...
Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gene Rambo
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout?
Fly Baby.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael <mailto:silvius@gwi.net> Silvius
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:49 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout?
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If It's a Fly Baby, somebody put on Piet style tail feathers. Also,
don't FB's usually have a ply skin all the way back? However, the
gear do look FB-ish.
Kip Gardner
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:
> Fly Baby.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Silvius
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout?
>
> <silvius@gwi.net>
>
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| Subject: | Re: the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't |
Ha! Good one Bryan - maybe a leaf blower in his pants? Might be
hard to get by security.
On Feb 18, 2010, at 5:29 PM, bryan green wrote:
> I agree with Patton on the Martyr crap. I just hope the next crazy
> uses a leaf blower I hate um.
> Do not archive
> Bryan Green
> Elgin SC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-RXD0)[ASRC Aerospace Corporation]
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 2:17 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: the guy had beefs with the IRS and US Gov't
>
> Aha=97Chrissi called it first. The guy left a suicide note
> grumbling about the IRS and US Gov=92t.
>
> Evidently he burned his own home down before taking ruining a
> perfectly good airplane and parts
> of the IRS building.
>
> do not archive
>
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://
> www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: here goes--just what small planes didn't need |
Yea, like a guy from Spain posted on this newsgroup last year. He said they
have to request approval days in advance including sending in copies of ids
of all passengers before every flight.
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On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 2:42 PM, flea <jimgriggs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> We're all going to have to check in two hours before our flight to clear
> TSA, and only after completion of a flight plan and the mandatory seven day
> waiting period.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287000#287000
>
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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And don't forget the deicing boots..
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On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:30 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hah-! That is something else! But why stop there? Put a full panel in it
> and put the thing on floats and get your multi, sea, land, instrument, and
> everything else in it! Only thing lacking would be cowl flaps and
> controllable pitch prop and the horsepower (plus retracts) and you could get
> your complex, high performance too.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> Air Camper NX41CC
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287017#287017
>
>
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Not a Fly Baby. The Fly Baby has alot more ply, like the Piet.
I'm thinking with all the bracing wires up front, it's something much
older.
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:08 PM, "Gene Rambo" <generambo@msn.com> wrote:
> Fly Baby.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Silvius
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:49 PM
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout?
>
> >
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140384602115&_trksid=p2759.l1nbsp
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Fly Baby gear is all-wood. Plus, this thing has strut attach plates
on the side of the fuselage. Two of them. The tail is all wrong for
everything we've mentioned, too.
I'm still looking.
Wayne Bressler Jr.
Taildraggers, Inc.
taildraggersinc.com
On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Kip and Beth Gardner <kipandbeth@earthlink.net
> wrote:
> If It's a Fly Baby, somebody put on Piet style tail feathers. Also,
> don't FB's usually have a ply skin all the way back? However, the
> gear do look FB-ish.
>
> Kip Gardner
>
> On Feb 18, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Gene Rambo wrote:
>
>> Fly Baby.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michael Silvius
>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sky Scout?
>>
>> >
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140384602115&_trksid=p2759.l1nbsp
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>>
>>
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I love it Jerry, count me in! I reserve the left rear seat.
Jack
DSM
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In the last month I have a friend building a Pietenpol close to me and he
had purchased a fuselage already built. I went over to look at his airplane
and was very jealous. Very nice work. He wanted me to come over again and
look at the fuselage, but before I had the chance he called me up and asked
if I wanted it. He was going to build another one. So I accepted his offer
and I am thinking of replacing my fuselage with the one he gave me.
Anyway I told my dad about the extra Pietenpol fuselage I have and he just
jokingly said put two body's on the plane and fly 4 people. So I have been
working on the idea and the only problem I see is a little stress in the
tail when you might land on just one body in a cross wind. I have already
named the airplane the Pieten-38. It would have 4 sets of controls so all
could fly the plane. I don't think it would qualify for Light Sport anymore
because of 4 places and two engines. With the wide stance on the ground it
should handle quite well. Of course you would need a 4 place intercom system
so all could talk. And you could instruct 3 people at once if they had some
ownership of the plane. You could get your high performance, twin, and
taildrager indorcment all at one time. I just haven't decided yet what to
do.
I have attached a concept picture
Jerry
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| Subject: | Corvair Cowl Info 1 |
Several people have asked for pictures of NX899KP's corvair cowl. I've broken
the pictures into 6 documents so folks can download as they desire.
Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
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| Subject: | Corvair Cowl Info 2 |
Part 2 of 6
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| Subject: | Corvair Cowl Info 3 |
3 of 6
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| Subject: | Corvair Cowl Info 4 |
4 of 6
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| Subject: | Corvair Cowl Info 5 |
5 of 6
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| Subject: | Corvair Cowl Info 6 - Last One |
6 of 6
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Cowl Info 5 |
Looks good Kevin, what did you paint your cowling with?
rick
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:31 PM, kevinpurtee <kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>wrote:
> kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
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> 5 of 6
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Castle Rock, Colorado
"Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers, that smell bad"
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Ha ha! me too. I reserve the top of the centersection.
I have my own lawn chair.
Clif
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 6:10 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: PIETEN-38
I love it Jerry, count me in! I reserve the left rear seat.
Jack
DSM
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Anyway I told my dad about the extra Pietenpol fuselage I have and he
just jokingly said put two body's on the plane and fly 4 people. So I
have been working on the idea and the only problem I see is a little
stress in the tail when you might land on just one body in a cross wind.
I have already named the airplane the Pieten-38. It would have 4 sets of
controls so all could fly the plane. I don't think it would qualify for
Light Sport anymore because of 4 places and two engines. With the wide
stance on the ground it should handle quite well. Of course you would
need a 4 place intercom system so all could talk. And you could instruct
3 people at once if they had some ownership of the plane. You could get
your high performance, twin, and taildrager indorcment all at one time.
I just haven't decided yet what to do.
I have attached a concept picture
Jerry
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Ted Davis was the pilot that flew Allen's Piet in the movie, and I was the Tech.
Director ????. There were some great experiences and events that happened during
the filming of the movie. Maybe Ted and I should give an overview of the
filming at Brodhead 2010.
Pieti Lowell
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There's a link to the official web-site on the poster.
Ivan.
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