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2. 04:17 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Jack Phillips)
3. 04:53 AM - Re: Two Fuse Questions (Greg Cardinal)
4. 04:54 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (airlion)
5. 05:01 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Jack Phillips)
6. 06:20 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (TOM STINEMETZE)
7. 06:24 AM - Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts (Michael Perez)
8. 06:50 AM - Re: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts (Bill Church)
9. 06:51 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Dan Yocum)
10. 07:06 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Owen Davies)
11. 08:22 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Don Emch)
12. 08:38 AM - Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (cjborsuk)
13. 08:43 AM - Re: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts (mark lee)
14. 08:56 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Ryan Mueller)
15. 09:08 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (kevinpurtee)
16. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Ryan Mueller)
17. 09:30 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (TOM STINEMETZE)
18. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Charles Campbell)
19. 09:58 AM - Re: A little ways off topic... (shad bell)
20. 09:58 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Jim Boyer)
21. 10:02 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (K5YAC)
22. 10:06 AM - Re: Life is Good (gboothe5@comcast.net)
23. 10:10 AM - Life is Good (gboothe5@comcast.net)
24. 10:32 AM - Re: Wrenches (jarheadpilot82)
25. 10:36 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Dan Yocum)
26. 10:44 AM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (rvanengen)
27. 10:54 AM - Re: Two Fuse Questions (lowell23@msn.com)
28. 10:57 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Don Emch)
29. 11:05 AM - Re: Long Way from Home (Dick N)
30. 11:13 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Dan Yocum)
31. 11:22 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Jack Phillips)
32. 11:28 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Bill Church)
33. 11:30 AM - Re: Re: Wrenches (Ryan Mueller)
34. 11:34 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Ryan Mueller)
35. 11:44 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Dan Yocum)
36. 11:53 AM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Bill Church)
37. 01:11 PM - Re: Long Way from Home (TOM STINEMETZE)
38. 01:16 PM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (cjborsuk)
39. 01:21 PM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (aerocarjake)
40. 03:10 PM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (K5YAC)
41. 03:55 PM - Re: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Gene Rambo)
42. 03:58 PM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Gene Rambo)
43. 05:14 PM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Jack)
44. 05:18 PM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (helspersew@aol.com)
45. 05:45 PM - prop (airlion)
46. 05:46 PM - Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Ryan M)
47. 07:01 PM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Billy McCaskill)
48. 07:32 PM - Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? (Billy McCaskill)
49. 08:10 PM - Re: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! (Clif Dawson)
50. 08:48 PM - Re: prop (Billy McCaskill)
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| Subject: | Re: Two Fuse Questions |
Hi Lowell,
I glued all the butt joints, but in my mind I had the same question. Don't
know the answer. If I were you I would plane those braces down to 7/8". Eve
ry little bit of weight eliminated is important.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
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From: lowell23 <lowell23@msn.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 8:46 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Two Fuse Questions
Hi All,
've got my longerons and struts/braces #13, 14, and 15 in the jig, and I al
so
ave a couple of questions. Since there will be gussets on both sides, is t
here
uch benefit to glueing the butt joints? Also, I see that struts/braces 2
hrough 6 are made with 7/8" by 1" - yes, it would be a bit heavier, but wou
ld
t be OK to make them with 1" by 1"?
hank you very much!
owell
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| Subject: | Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
I took my grandson up in my Piet last year on his 8th birthday, after first
taking him up in my neighbor's 172. Sure fun to see the look on their face
the first time they fly. For some reason we didn't get a picture of him in
the Pietenpol, but here was first ride in the 172:
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Eldredge
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
The youngest I've taken was my son at almost 3 years old. The booster seat
fit just fine. My wife was concerned that a kid could unbuckle themselves
and leap out of the pit without me able to do much about it.
Andrew Eldredge
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
wrote:
<steve@wotelectronics.com>
...because I might need to do that soon. :-)
Sunday evening my wife and I took our five week old daughter (our first
child) up for her first flight (in a Grumman, not the Piet). I've had my
five year old nephew in the Piet and the harness wasn't near tight enough,
so we taxied around for a while which he enjoyed. I hate to have to wait 7
or 8 years to put my little girl to fit in the GN-1, so I'm wondering if a
car seat will fit up front. I'm also wondering if we have enough pillows
that I could just stuff those around her and keep her from banging around
too much.
Also, if I do pull that off, I need suggestions on (#1) how to get my wife
to let me back in the house and (#2) how to get her to ever leave me alone
with the kid again. :)
When my daughter was 9 days old she and I made my traditional weekly
Saturday morning donut delivery to the pilot lounge at 1k4 (David Jay Perry
airport in Goldsby, OK). However, we took the Saturn, rather than the GN-1
which is how I usually deliver the donuts.
Being a Dad sure is fun, but I don't know how you other parents have time to
build airplanes. I'm trying to figure out how to wean myself off sleep
entirely.
Here are some pictures from Sunday:
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace1.jpg
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace2.jpg
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace3.jpg
Steve Ruse
Norman, OK
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| Subject: | Re: Two Fuse Questions |
The benefit of glueing butt joints is that it seals the end grain. This is
good practice throughout the aircraft.
Greg Cardinal
----- Original Message -----
From: <lowell23@msn.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 8:43 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Two Fuse Questions
> <lowell23@msn.com>
>
> Hi All,
> I've got my longerons and struts/braces #13, 14, and 15 in the jig, and I
> also have a couple of questions. Since there will be gussets on both
> sides, is there much benefit to glueing the butt joints? Also, I see that
> struts/braces 2 through 6 are made with 7/8" by 1" - yes, it would be a
> bit heavier, but would it be OK to make them with 1" by 1"?
> Thank you very much!
> Lowell
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342561#342561
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
Great Pic Jack. I sure wish My Grand kids's Mom would let them go up with m
e. =0AThousands of hours and still NO. Gardiner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________
______________________=0AFrom: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>=0ATo:
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=0AFrom:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-pietenpo
l-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Eldredge=0ASent: Friday, J
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tenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?=0A =0AThe youngest I
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=0Aout of the pit without me able to do much about it.=0A=0AAndrew Eldredge
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old =0Anephew in the Piet and the harness wasn't near tight enough, so we
taxied around =0Afor a while which he enjoyed. I hate to have to wait 7 or
8 years to put my =0Alittle girl to fit in the GN-1, so I'm wondering if a
car seat will fit up =0Afront. I'm also wondering if we have enough pillo
ws that I could just stuff =0Athose around her and keep her from banging ar
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how to get my wife to =0Alet me back in the house and (#2) how to get her
to ever leave me alone with the =0Akid again. :)=0A=0AWhen my daughter was
9 days old she and I made my traditional weekly Saturday =0Amorning donut
delivery to the pilot lounge at 1k4 (David Jay Perry airport in =0AGoldsby,
OK). However, we took the Saturn, rather than the GN-1 which is how I =0A
usually deliver the donuts.=0A=0ABeing a Dad sure is fun, but I don't know
how you other parents have time to =0Abuild airplanes. I'm trying to figur
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| Subject: | Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
For goodness' sake! You're an AIRLINE pilot, as well as a marine. Who
could she better trust?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of airlion
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
Great Pic Jack. I sure wish My Grand kids's Mom would let them go up with
me. Thousands of hours and still NO. Gardiner
_____
From: Jack Phillips <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 7:15:50 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
I took my grandson up in my Piet last year on his 8th birthday, after first
taking him up in my neighbor's 172. Sure fun to see the look on their face
the first time they fly. For some reason we didn't get a picture of him in
the Pietenpol, but here was first ride in the 172:
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
_____
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Eldredge
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
The youngest I've taken was my son at almost 3 years old. The booster seat
fit just fine. My wife was concerned that a kid could unbuckle themselves
and leap out of the pit without me able to do much about it.
Andrew Eldredge
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com>
wrote:
<steve@wotelectronics.com>
...because I might need to do that soon. :-)
Sunday evening my wife and I took our five week old daughter (our first
child) up for her first flight (in a Grumman, not the Piet). I've had my
five year old nephew in the Piet and the harness wasn't near tight enough,
so we taxied around for a while which he enjoyed. I hate to have to wait 7
or 8 years to put my little girl to fit in the GN-1, so I'm wondering if a
car seat will fit up front. I'm also wondering if we have enough pillows
that I could just stuff those around her and keep her from banging around
too much.
Also, if I do pull that off, I need suggestions on (#1) how to get my wife
to let me back in the house and (#2) how to get her to ever leave me alone
with the kid again. :)
When my daughter was 9 days old she and I made my traditional weekly
Saturday morning donut delivery to the pilot lounge at 1k4 (David Jay Perry
airport in Goldsby, OK). However, we took the Saturn, rather than the GN-1
which is how I usually deliver the donuts.
Being a Dad sure is fun, but I don't know how you other parents have time to
build airplanes. I'm trying to figure out how to wean myself off sleep
entirely.
Here are some pictures from Sunday:
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace1.jpg
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace2.jpg
http://www.wotelectronics.com/flying/grace3.jpg
Steve Ruse
Norman , OK
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
Steve:
I used to say; "All babies look alike." until I got whacked by too many
purses. Cute kid and "good show" for getting her started early. You can
start catching up on your sleep just as soon as you become an empty
nester.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "Steve Ruse" <steve@wotelectronics.com> 6/9/2011 11:13 PM >>>
Being a Dad sure is fun, but I don't know how you other parents have time
to
build airplanes. I'm trying to figure out how to wean myself off sleep
entirely.
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| Subject: | Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts |
I will be using aluminum struts for my wings and wonder if welding on alumi
num tabs for the jury struts to attach to is a good...or bad...idea?- (al
l of which are 6160)
Michael Perez
Karetaker Aero
www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts |
Michael,
As has been mentioned many times before, welding aluminum usually will weaken the
material in the weld zone. Specific alloys are affected differently, but in
the case of 6061, the strength gets reduced as much as 40% within 1" of the weld.
You probably don't want to be weakening your lift struts.
I would say that welding tabs to your aluminum struts would be classified as a
"bad" idea. Mechanical fastening should be fairly easy to do neatly.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
Steve,
I tried putting a car seat up front once, but it wouldn't fit. It was
a forward facing seat - not one of those cradle-type, though.
Ear protection. Young kids that age need good ear protection. You
don't want to damage those sensitive little ear drums. They'll find
enough ways to ignore you later in life, you don't need to give them a
valid excuse. ;-)
Last summer I sat both of the girls (they were 3 at the time) in the
front seat, put ear muffs on 'em, and taxied around the airport. They
loved it and Sophie has been asking and asking and asking me and mom to
let her fly with me. Claire isn't so hopped up about it - she's more
tentative than her sister - but she has been talking herself into it.
I have to admit that the issue about them unbuckling themselves and
jumping out is a concern. For an older kid, say 3-4, I think the issue
could be solved by tying a swiss seat rappel harness
(http://www.wikihow.com/Tie-a-Swiss-Seat-Rappel-Harness) and then tie
the other end of the rope to your seat belt. Even if they unbuckled
themselves, they wouldn't be able to untie the knots or wiggle out of
the harness.
Don E. didn't take Ryan flying in his Piet until he was 5.
Gene R. started taking his son in his Travel Air when he was 7 or 8, IIRC.
Larry Vetter's brother took his daughter in his Piet when she was 3.
The girls are 4 and I hope I can convince mom to let me take them (one
at a time), this summer.
We'll see...
Good luck!
Dan
PS There is no building airplanes when you've got youngun's. I have no
idea how Don E. did it...
On 06/09/2011 11:51 PM, Andrew Eldredge wrote:
> The youngest I've taken was my son at almost 3 years old. The booster
> seat fit just fine. My wife was concerned that a kid could unbuckle
> themselves and leap out of the pit without me able to do much about it.
>
> Andrew Eldredge
>
> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics.com
> <mailto:steve@wotelectronics.com>> wrote:
>
> <steve@wotelectronics.com <mailto:steve@wotelectronics.com>>
>
> ...because I might need to do that soon. :-)
>
> Sunday evening my wife and I took our five week old daughter (our
> first child) up for her first flight (in a Grumman, not the Piet).
> I've had my five year old nephew in the Piet and the harness
> wasn't near tight enough, so we taxied around for a while which he
> enjoyed. I hate to have to wait 7 or 8 years to put my little girl
> to fit in the GN-1, so I'm wondering if a car seat will fit up
> front. I'm also wondering if we have enough pillows that I could
> just stuff those around her and keep her from banging around too much.
>
> Also, if I do pull that off, I need suggestions on (#1) how to get
> my wife to let me back in the house and (#2) how to get her to ever
> leave me alone with the kid again. :)
>
> When my daughter was 9 days old she and I made my traditional weekly
> Saturday morning donut delivery to the pilot lounge at 1k4 (David
> Jay Perry airport in Goldsby, OK). However, we took the Saturn,
> rather than the GN-1 which is how I usually deliver the donuts.
>
> Being a Dad sure is fun, but I don't know how you other parents have
> time to build airplanes. I'm trying to figure out how to wean
> myself off sleep entirely.
>
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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On 06/10/2011 09:17 AM, TOM STINEMETZE wrote:
> *I used to say; "All babies look alike." until I got whacked by too many
> purses....
Or as Churchill observed, "I have discovered something wonderful. All
babies look just like me."
Owen
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
Steve,
Weaning off of sleep is really a good method... just quitting cold turkey, not
so good. It took me about three years to really be weaned. I find that my airplane
time needs to be when Gretchen and the 4 kiddos would rather be sleeping.
Ryan loves to help me so that does help the situation. But for the most part
my prime airplane working time seems to be early morning, which unfortunately
means waking up around 3:30-4:00. But when you have an addiction likes this...ya
gotta do what ya gotta do...
As far as the kids flying, the older 3 so far have had their very first airplane
ride in the Piet at the age of 5. Momma didn't really know about the first
one until after, which was probably best. For the next two we agreed on 5 years
old. Abbey who is 4 is begging. Now that I have the Chief we might have to
break the 5 rule. I never have tried to use a car seat. One thing I was going
to do was to make an extra harness to hold them in there just in case they
got a crazy idea to unbuckle and try to climb out. I never did make it we just
practiced and talked about it a lot! I've never had a problem. Although I
wouldn't take another kid that young that I wasn't able to practice with a lot.
All in all the kids love it. I have them in a rotation in my logbook for who gets
to go next. Flying the kids out to breakfast and to flyins have been the
absolute high point of my 20 years of flying!
Don Emch
NX899DE
P.S. Frank Pavliga used to fly with his kids in the back pit with him! YIKES!!!
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| Subject: | Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all the
great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods received.
I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch of great people.
I could not do this without this resource and of course WestCoastPiet.com.
Chuck (in Raleigh)
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Welding Tabs On Aluminum Struts |
I would advise against welding.The aluminum is going to lose to much
strength and the hardness will be all over the place.It will no longer be
6061 around the weld.This was a problem in early hang gliders.We tried wood
plugs but that quickly set up corrosion.Also you can get into weakening with
dissimilar metals causing corrosion. You might find out if there was
hardware manufactured for that strut material.Aluminum is great but be
careful how you use it.
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>wrote:
> I will be using aluminum struts for my wings and wonder if welding on
> aluminum tabs for the jury struts to attach to is a good...or bad...idea?
> (all of which are 6160)
>
> Michael Perez
> Karetaker Aero
> www.karetakeraero.com
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Looking good Chuck! You even have the wing hanging above the fuselage to
simulate the difficulty of the process... :-P
Ryan
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:36 AM, cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all
> the great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods
> received. I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch
> of great people. I could not do this without this resource and of course
> WestCoastPiet.com.
>
> Chuck (in Raleigh)
> 989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
It's gonna fly funny with the wing oriented like that...
Nice job!
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Austin/Georgetown, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Not nearly as goofy as flying with a wing that spins.... ;-)
Ryan
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> kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
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> It's gonna fly funny with the wing oriented like that...
>
> Nice job!
>
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> NX899KP
> Austin/Georgetown, TX
>
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Nice looking work, Chuck. I am envious of your work space though.
Tom Stinemetze
N328X
>>> "cjborsuk" <cjborsuk@yahoo.com> 6/10/2011 10:36 AM >>>
Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for
all the great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the
methods received. I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with
a bunch of great people. I could not do this without this resource and of
course WestCoastPiet.com.
Chuck (in Raleigh)
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Watch that! Them spinning wings is fun!
----- Original Message -----
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To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory!
Not nearly as goofy as flying with a wing that spins.... ;-)
Ryan
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:05 AM, kevinpurtee
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil> wrote:
<kevin.purtee@us.army.mil>
It's gonna fly funny with the wing oriented like that...
Nice job!
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| Subject: | Re: A little ways off topic... |
Great looking chief, Chief.- Look forward to seeing it in person, hopeful
ly this summer some time.
-
Shad
--- On Thu, 6/9/11, John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com> wrote:
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: A little ways off topic...
Beautiful Don. Really Nice. I bet Jack likes the colors too.
-john-
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On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Don Emch wrote:
I don't mean to get anyone too bored but I thought I might post a couple of
videos of our Chief that my dad and I recently restored. -If you know my
Piet you might recognize the fact that I had some left over dope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-wsbr18SbM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6pNXDWVIxw
I can't believe Brodhead is 6 weeks away! -Planning to take the Piet up!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
NIce looking work Chuck; you are making very good progress.
Cheers,
Jim B.
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Looking real nice Chuck!
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Mark Chouinard
Wings, Center Section and Empannage framed up - Working on Fuselage
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Walkin the Golden West Fly-in Airshow with my grandson! No Piets...gotta do something
about that!
Gary
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Aircraft Spruce has them for sale if you cannot find any to borrow-
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/nutwrenchs2.php
These guys appear to rent them-
http://www.hangartoolbox.com/Tools/Cylinder/CylLycomingWide.aspx
Hope that helps.
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Very nice! There's not enough spittle on your chin from making airplane
noises, though.
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On 06/10/2011 10:36 AM, cjborsuk wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "cjborsuk"<cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
>
> Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all the
great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods received.
I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch of great
people. I could not do this without this resource and of course WestCoastPiet.com.
>
> Chuck (in Raleigh)
> 989CB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342618#342618
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse_6_9_11_small4_103.jpg
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>
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Dan Yocum
Fermilab 630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
Both of my sons (age 3 and 6) are VERY eager to go up when the plane is done, only
precondition my wife has put is a BRS and seat belts. I like the idea of
a climbing harness, though!!
:D
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N719VE
02xB || !02xB
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| Subject: | Re: Two Fuse Questions |
Thank you, everyone, for your great advice! I greatly appreciate all the tips,
tricks, and suggestions that come out here.
Lowell
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Beautiful. Nice shop!
Don Emch
NX899DE
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| Subject: | Re: Long Way from Home |
Tom
I have heard that there is a Piet at a museum in Bozeman and there is
also one in a museum in the Roundup area. That is the one that the Jr
HS girls did a couple of years ago.
Dick N.
----- Original Message -----
From: TOM STINEMETZE
To: Matronics Pietenpol List
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 1:36 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Long Way from Home
Hey you guys.
My wife and I are taking a 40th anniversary trip next week to the
Bozeman, Montana region. Are there any Air Campers or Sky Scouts near
there that I could go visit? My wife is pretty lenient about such
things.
Thanks,
Tom Stinemetze
N328X - finally up on gear
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Chuck,
Did you drop the seat or raise the fuselage sides or is it just a trick
of the camera? Your shoulders are below the top of the turtledeck...
Dan
On 06/10/2011 10:36 AM, cjborsuk wrote:
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "cjborsuk"<cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
>
> Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all the
great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods received.
I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch of great
people. I could not do this without this resource and of course WestCoastPiet.com.
>
> Chuck (in Raleigh)
> 989CB
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342618#342618
>
>
> Attachments:
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse_6_9_11_small_806.jpg
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse_6_9_11_small4_103.jpg
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Fermilab 630.840.6509
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"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
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| Subject: | Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Looking really good, Chuck! Are you going to make it to Brodhead this year?
Jack Phillips
NX899JP "Icarus Plummet"
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 11:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory!
Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all
the great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods
received. I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch
of great people. I could not do this without this resource and of course
WestCoastPiet.com.
Chuck (in Raleigh)
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Dan,
Maybe Chuck just has a short torso, like this guy:
BC
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Be advised, pretty sure the O-290's do not use the internal socket cylinder
base nuts, so that particular set from ACS would not be applicable...
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:29 PM, jarheadpilot82 <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com
> wrote:
> jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> Aircraft Spruce has them for sale if you cannot find any to borrow-
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/nutwrenchs2.php
>
> These guys appear to rent them-
>
> http://www.hangartoolbox.com/Tools/Cylinder/CylLycomingWide.aspx
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> [/u]
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Maybe he's just properly sized... :-)
Ryan
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov> wrote:
>
> Chuck,
>
> Did you drop the seat or raise the fuselage sides or is it just a trick of
> the camera? Your shoulders are below the top of the turtledeck...
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 06/10/2011 10:36 AM, cjborsuk wrote:
>
>> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "cjborsuk"<cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for
>> all the great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods
>> received. I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch
>> of great people. I could not do this without this resource and of course
>> WestCoastPiet.com.
>>
>> Chuck (in Raleigh)
>> 989CB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342618#342618
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuse_6_9_11_small4_103.jpg
>>
>
> --
> Dan Yocum
> Fermilab 630.840.6509
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On 06/10/2011 01:31 PM, Ryan Mueller wrote:
> Maybe he's just properly sized... :-)
I almost tempted to photoshop Andre The Giant sitting in a Pietenpol, now.
Almost.
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> Ryan
>
> do not archive
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> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov
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> Chuck,
>
> Did you drop the seat or raise the fuselage sides or is it just a
> trick of the camera? Your shoulders are below the top of the
> turtledeck...
>
> Dan
>
>
> On 06/10/2011 10:36 AM, cjborsuk wrote:
>
> --> Pietenpol-List message posted by:
> "cjborsuk"<cjborsuk@yahoo.com <mailto:cjborsuk@yahoo.com>>
>
> Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank
> you for all the great advice on the turtle deck. I used a
> combination of the methods received. I am pleased with the
> results. This is a great list with a bunch of great people. I
> could not do this without this resource and of course
> WestCoastPiet.com.
>
> Chuck (in Raleigh)
> 989CB
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Taking a closer look at the photos, the pilot's seat does appear to be lower than
the plans indicate. Hopefully there's enough room for the torque tube and cables
to fit under there without interference.
Bill C.
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Thanks Dick. I will see if I can find them.
Tom
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>>> "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net> 6/10/2011 1:03 PM >>>
Tom
I have heard that there is a Piet at a museum in Bozeman and there is also
one in a museum in the Roundup area. That is the one that the Jr HS girls
did a couple of years ago.
Dick N.
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Bill - Good eye. I did lower the seat. The opening in the front is right at 3"
as called for in the plans. I have not epoxied the seat in yet, and might not
until I make sure all the controls fit. The seat back is set back 3 inches from
the plans and the turtle deck is raised 2 inches. I am not the biggest guy,
but the size and leg room feel great.
Jack - I would love to make it to Brodhead this year, but right now I don't think
it will happen.
Chuck
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Very nice Chuck.......... the genuine grin says it all...............
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
I can vouch for Don's "5 Year Old" rule... although he is speaking of HIS kids,
he took my son (Tyler) up at Brodhead when he was 5 years old. I think Tyler
will remember that forever... I know I will.
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
Please keep in mind=2C while you are making it impossible to unbuckle and g
et out=2C if there was an accident=2C I would never want to think that they
could not unbuckle and get out of a burning airplane if I was incapacitate
d. The first time we took Will flying in the Travel Air=2C at around 3=2C
he was trying to get out to wingwalk "like Waldo" (his favorite movie!). T
hank goodness it has a two-place front seat and Karen was there to prevent
it. My personal vote would be that if the child is young enough for you to
be afraid they might unbuckle and get out=2C they are too young to fly alo
ne. No one should ever be constrained so that they could not escape.
My 2 cents=2C
Gene
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
> From: EmchAir@aol.com
> Date: Fri=2C 10 Jun 2011 08:19:35 -0700
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Steve=2C
>
> Weaning off of sleep is really a good method... just quitting cold turkey
=2C not so good. It took me about three years to really be weaned. I find t
hat my airplane time needs to be when Gretchen and the 4 kiddos would rathe
r be sleeping. Ryan loves to help me so that does help the situation. But f
or the most part my prime airplane working time seems to be early morning
=2C which unfortunately means waking up around 3:30-4:00. But when you have
an addiction likes this...ya gotta do what ya gotta do...
>
> As far as the kids flying=2C the older 3 so far have had their very first
airplane ride in the Piet at the age of 5. Momma didn't really know about
the first one until after=2C which was probably best. For the next two we a
greed on 5 years old. Abbey who is 4 is begging. Now that I have the Chief
we might have to break the 5 rule. I never have tried to use a car seat. On
e thing I was going to do was to make an extra harness to hold them in ther
e just in case they got a crazy idea to unbuckle and try to climb out. I ne
ver did make it we just practiced and talked about it a lot! I've never had
a problem. Although I wouldn't take another kid that young that I wasn't a
ble to practice with a lot.
>
> All in all the kids love it. I have them in a rotation in my logbook for
who gets to go next. Flying the kids out to breakfast and to flyins have be
en the absolute high point of my 20 years of flying!
>
> Don Emch
> NX899DE
>
> P.S. Frank Pavliga used to fly with his kids in the back pit with him! YI
KES!!!
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| Subject: | Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
as for the statement about me=2C nope=2C he JUST turned 7. he has been fly
ing in the Travel Air since 3. By himself at 6. Going to the fly-in next
weekend at Matt Paxton's alone with me=2C first time.
> Date: Fri=2C 10 Jun 2011 08:48:41 -0500
> From: yocum@fnal.gov
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet?
>
>
> Steve=2C
>
> I tried putting a car seat up front once=2C but it wouldn't fit. It was
> a forward facing seat - not one of those cradle-type=2C though.
>
> Ear protection. Young kids that age need good ear protection. You
> don't want to damage those sensitive little ear drums. They'll find
> enough ways to ignore you later in life=2C you don't need to give them a
> valid excuse. =3B-)
>
> Last summer I sat both of the girls (they were 3 at the time) in the
> front seat=2C put ear muffs on 'em=2C and taxied around the airport. They
> loved it and Sophie has been asking and asking and asking me and mom to
> let her fly with me. Claire isn't so hopped up about it - she's more
> tentative than her sister - but she has been talking herself into it.
>
> I have to admit that the issue about them unbuckling themselves and
> jumping out is a concern. For an older kid=2C say 3-4=2C I think the issu
e
> could be solved by tying a swiss seat rappel harness
> (http://www.wikihow.com/Tie-a-Swiss-Seat-Rappel-Harness) and then tie
> the other end of the rope to your seat belt. Even if they unbuckled
> themselves=2C they wouldn't be able to untie the knots or wiggle out of
> the harness.
>
> Don E. didn't take Ryan flying in his Piet until he was 5.
>
> Gene R. started taking his son in his Travel Air when he was 7 or 8=2C II
RC.
>
> Larry Vetter's brother took his daughter in his Piet when she was 3.
>
> The girls are 4 and I hope I can convince mom to let me take them (one
> at a time)=2C this summer.
>
> We'll see...
>
> Good luck!
> Dan
>
>
> PS There is no building airplanes when you've got youngun's. I have no
> idea how Don E. did it...
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06/09/2011 11:51 PM=2C Andrew Eldredge wrote:
> > The youngest I've taken was my son at almost 3 years old. The booster
> > seat fit just fine. My wife was concerned that a kid could unbuckle
> > themselves and leap out of the pit without me able to do much about it.
> >
> > Andrew Eldredge
> >
> > On Thu=2C Jun 9=2C 2011 at 10:13 PM=2C Steve Ruse <steve@wotelectronics
.com
> > <mailto:steve@wotelectronics.com>> wrote:
> >
> > <steve@wotelectronics.com <mailto:steve@wotelectronics.com>>
> >
> > ...because I might need to do that soon. :-)
> >
> > Sunday evening my wife and I took our five week old daughter (our
> > first child) up for her first flight (in a Grumman=2C not the Piet).
> > I've had my five year old nephew in the Piet and the harness
> > wasn't near tight enough=2C so we taxied around for a while which he
> > enjoyed. I hate to have to wait 7 or 8 years to put my little girl
> > to fit in the GN-1=2C so I'm wondering if a car seat will fit up
> > front. I'm also wondering if we have enough pillows that I could
> > just stuff those around her and keep her from banging around too much.
> >
> > Also=2C if I do pull that off=2C I need suggestions on (#1) how to get
> > my wife to let me back in the house and (#2) how to get her to ever
> > leave me alone with the kid again. :)
> >
> > When my daughter was 9 days old she and I made my traditional weekly
> > Saturday morning donut delivery to the pilot lounge at 1k4 (David
> > Jay Perry airport in Goldsby=2C OK). However=2C we took the Saturn=2C
> > rather than the GN-1 which is how I usually deliver the donuts.
> >
> > Being a Dad sure is fun=2C but I don't know how you other parents have
> > time to build airplanes. I'm trying to figure out how to wean
> > myself off sleep entirely.
> >
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| Subject: | Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
Looks great Chuck! It will be more comfortable if you trim those stringers
a bit.
Jack
DSM
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of cjborsuk
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 10:36 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory!
Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all
the great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods
received. I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch
of great people. I could not do this without this resource and of course
WestCoastPiet.com.
Chuck (in Raleigh)
989CB
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This guy's shoulders are quite low in the fuse also. I know this guy. He bu
ild his airplane per plans, like Bernerd intended.
Dan Helsper
Puryear, TN.
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Sent: Fri, Jun 10, 2011 1:14 pm
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory!
Chuck,
Did you drop the seat or raise the fuselage sides or is it just a trick
f the camera? Your shoulders are below the top of the turtledeck...
Dan
n 06/10/2011 10:36 AM, cjborsuk wrote:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "cjborsuk"<cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for al
l
he great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods
eceived. I am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch o
f
reat people. I could not do this without this resource and of course
estCoastPiet.com.
Chuck (in Raleigh)
989CB
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Right now I have a 2 blade warp drive on my corvair powered pietenpol. What kind
of performance would I get with a 3 blade prop? Gardiner
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Nice work Chuck. Are you anywhere Lake Ridge?
Ryan M
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From: cjborsuk <cjborsuk@yahoo.com>
Sent: Fri, June 10, 2011 11:36:13 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory!
Sat in my AirCamper yesterday for the first time! All big thank you for all the
great advice on the turtle deck. I used a combination of the methods received.
I
am pleased with the results. This is a great list with a bunch of great people.
I could not do this without this resource and of course WestCoastPiet.com.
Chuck (in Raleigh)
989CB
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
I was at the Frasca Fly-In at Urbana, IL today, and saw and orange WACO bipe fly
in with a child car seat strapped into the front cockpit. I wasn't close enough
to see if there was a child in the car seat or not. But as Gene mentioned,
I'd be worried about getting them out if something appened...
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| Subject: | Re: Will a children's car seat fit in a Piet? |
Here's a picture of the car seat in the front cockpit of the WACO. It's the best
one I got, I got this one in between two low-level/ high-speed passes of Frasca's
FM-2 Wildcat.
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| Subject: | Re: Big Day in 989CB Aeroplane Factory! |
You mean like these?
http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/potty/2.htm
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/15/spinning-wing-airliner/
Have you never spun a ruler? I had a link for a wing
based on that but it's not there any more.
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Watch that! Them spinning wings is fun!
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Not nearly as goofy as flying with a wing that spins.... ;-)
Ryan
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It's gonna fly funny with the wing oriented like that...
Nice job!
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Based on the fact that you have 50% more blades with 3 vs. 2, I'd say 50% more
thrust and 50% more speed! There won't be another Piet that could keep up with
you. ;)
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