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0. 12:22 AM - Contributions Down By 20%... (Matt Dralle)
1. 07:46 AM - Re: Pulsar-List donation? (Casey King)
2. 07:46 AM - Re: Pulsar-List donation? (Casey King)
3. 07:28 PM - Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/22/11 (Bob Hartunian)
4. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/22/11 (Keith Palmer)
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| Subject: | Contributions Down By 20%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising
income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to
keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many
years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of
hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a
modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: Pulsar-List donation? |
I wouldn't stress over this. The matronics list serves many, not just this list.
Having run the previous pulsar-builders list for years and years I can attest
that there are real costs to this. And while we kept that list free for those
years ( acknowledging the voluntary contributions), the new list does have many
features the old one didn't.
If you feel compelled to donate then do it. If not, no big deal. In the past, people
would often ask, "How can I help?". Now you can in a small way. We explored
many other options over time & many of these are now gone or there is a fee.
Casey
Ex-list pulsar-builders@caseyk.org wrangler
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 22, 2011, at 9:33 PM, "jdolan" <jdolan@clear.net.nz> wrote:
>
> Fellow Pulsar Builders/Owners
> I am a lurker and occasional participant in several lists.
>
> The Pulsar List is the only one which has approached me for
> a donation. The other lists are all free, seem to work
> fine without charges. I think we could get into a difficult
> situation with costs and charges if we all end up having to
> fund this list
>
> Should we be moving our list to another provider?
>
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>> <dralle@matronics.com>
>>
>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner!
>> On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so
>> generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its
>> my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to
>> show their appreciation for the Lists.
>>
>> As a number of people have pointed out in their
>> Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more
>> valuable than your typical magazine subscription!
>>
>> Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the
>> upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists.
>> Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and
>> easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
>>
>> Matronics / Matt Dralle
>> 581 Jeannie Way
>> Livermore CA 94550
>>
>> I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made
>> a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund
>> Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these
>> Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a
>> little comment about how the Lists have helped you!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> Matronics Email List Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>> ===
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pulsar-List donation? |
I wouldn't stress over this. The matronics list serves many, not just this list.
Having run the previous pulsar-builders list for years and years I can attest
that there are real costs to this. And while we kept that list free for those
years ( acknowledging the voluntary contributions), the new list does have many
features the old one didn't.
If you feel compelled to donate then do it. If not, no big deal. In the past, people
would often ask, "How can I help?". Now you can in a small way. We explored
many other options over time & many of these are now gone or there is a fee.
Casey
Ex-list pulsar-builders@caseyk.org wrangler
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 22, 2011, at 9:33 PM, "jdolan" <jdolan@clear.net.nz> wrote:
>
> Fellow Pulsar Builders/Owners
> I am a lurker and occasional participant in several lists.
>
> The Pulsar List is the only one which has approached me for
> a donation. The other lists are all free, seem to work
> fine without charges. I think we could get into a difficult
> situation with costs and charges if we all end up having to
> fund this list
>
> Should we be moving our list to another provider?
>
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>> <dralle@matronics.com>
>>
>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner!
>> On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so
>> generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its
>> my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to
>> show their appreciation for the Lists.
>>
>> As a number of people have pointed out in their
>> Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more
>> valuable than your typical magazine subscription!
>>
>> Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the
>> upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists.
>> Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and
>> easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
>>
>> Matronics / Matt Dralle
>> 581 Jeannie Way
>> Livermore CA 94550
>>
>> I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made
>> a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund
>> Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these
>> Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a
>> little comment about how the Lists have helped you!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> Matronics Email List Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>> ===
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/22/11 |
Most people are using this site-
<Pulsar-Aviators@yahoogroups.com>
> From: Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:57:22 -0800
> To: Pulsar-List Digest List <pulsar-list-digest@matronics.com>
> Subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/22/11
>
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete Pulsar-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the Pulsar-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2
> 011-11-22&Archive=Pulsar
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> Text Version:
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> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter
> 11-11-22&Archive=Pulsar
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> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
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>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Pulsar-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Tue 11/22/11: 2
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 07:27 PM - Pulsar-List donation? (jdolan)
> 2. 08:12 PM - Re: Pulsar-List donation? (Matt Dralle)
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:27:36 PM PST US
> From: jdolan <jdolan@clear.net.nz>
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Pulsar-List donation?
>
>
> Fellow Pulsar Builders/Owners
> I am a lurker and occasional participant in several lists.
>
> The Pulsar List is the only one which has approached me for
> a donation. The other lists are all free, seem to work
> fine without charges. I think we could get into a difficult
> situation with costs and charges if we all end up having to
> fund this list
>
> Should we be moving our list to another provider?
>
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>> <dralle@matronics.com>
>>
>> Dear Listers,
>>
>> The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner!
>> On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so
>> generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its
>> my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to
>> show their appreciation for the Lists.
>>
>> As a number of people have pointed out in their
>> Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more
>> valuable than your typical magazine subscription!
>>
>> Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the
>> upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists.
>> Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and
>> easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
>>
>> Matronics / Matt Dralle
>> 581 Jeannie Way
>> Livermore CA 94550
>>
>> I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made
>> a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund
>> Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these
>> Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a
>> little comment about how the Lists have helped you!
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> Matronics Email List Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>> ==
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:12:12 PM PST US
> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Pulsar-List donation?
>
>
> Contributions are completely voluntary. Make a contribution if you wish, or
> don't.
> Its totally up to you. There is no advertising on these lists other than
> this annual Fund Raiser to support its operation. Many make a donation, many
> don't. Its been run that way for over 21 years now.
>
> I encourage everyone to continue using the Pulsar lists whether they make a
> contribution
> or not. The List is for the unmoderated exchange of ideas specific
> to the given subject.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
> At 07:26 PM 11/22/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>>
>> Fellow Pulsar Builders/Owners
>> I am a lurker and occasional participant in several lists.
>>
>> The Pulsar List is the only one which has approached me for
>> a donation. The other lists are all free, seem to work
>> fine without charges. I think we could get into a difficult
>> situation with costs and charges if we all end up having to
>> fund this list
>>
>> Should we be moving our list to another provider?
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/22/11 |
I agree with Bob, there are benefits of having an encoded access to a forum
which pevents Mailabuse
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hartunian" <bobh5@earthlink.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 5:27 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/22/11
>
> Most people are using this site-
> <Pulsar-Aviators@yahoogroups.com>
>
>
>> From: Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:57:22 -0800
>> To: Pulsar-List Digest List <pulsar-list-digest@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 11/22/11
>>
>> *
>>
>> =================================================
>> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
>> =================================================
>>
>> Today's complete Pulsar-List Digest can also be found in either of the
>> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
>> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
>> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
>> of the Pulsar-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
>> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>>
>> HTML Version:
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2
>> 011-11-22&Archive=Pulsar
>>
>> Text Version:
>>
>>
>> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter
>> 11-11-22&Archive=Pulsar
>>
>>
>> ===============================================
>> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
>> ===============================================
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Pulsar-List Digest Archive
>> ---
>> Total Messages Posted Tue 11/22/11: 2
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> Today's Message Index:
>> ----------------------
>>
>> 1. 07:27 PM - Pulsar-List donation? (jdolan)
>> 2. 08:12 PM - Re: Pulsar-List donation? (Matt Dralle)
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 1
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 07:27:36 PM PST US
>> From: jdolan <jdolan@clear.net.nz>
>> Subject: Pulsar-List: Pulsar-List donation?
>>
>>
>> Fellow Pulsar Builders/Owners
>> I am a lurker and occasional participant in several lists.
>>
>> The Pulsar List is the only one which has approached me for
>> a donation. The other lists are all free, seem to work
>> fine without charges. I think we could get into a difficult
>> situation with costs and charges if we all end up having to
>> fund this list
>>
>> Should we be moving our list to another provider?
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message Follows -----
>>> <dralle@matronics.com>
>>>
>>> Dear Listers,
>>>
>>> The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner!
>>> On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so
>>> generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its
>>> my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to
>>> show their appreciation for the Lists.
>>>
>>> As a number of people have pointed out in their
>>> Contribution comments, the Lists are a whole lot more
>>> valuable than your typical magazine subscription!
>>>
>>> Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the
>>> upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists.
>>> Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and
>>> easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
>>>
>>> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>>
>>> Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
>>>
>>> Matronics / Matt Dralle
>>> 581 Jeannie Way
>>> Livermore CA 94550
>>>
>>> I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made
>>> a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund
>>> Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these
>>> Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a
>>> little comment about how the Lists have helped you!
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Matt Dralle
>>> Matronics Email List Administrator
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ==
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________ Message 2
>> _____________________________________
>>
>>
>> Time: 08:12:12 PM PST US
>> From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>> Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Pulsar-List donation?
>>
>>
>> Contributions are completely voluntary. Make a contribution if you wish,
>> or
>> don't.
>> Its totally up to you. There is no advertising on these lists other than
>> this annual Fund Raiser to support its operation. Many make a donation,
>> many
>> don't. Its been run that way for over 21 years now.
>>
>> I encourage everyone to continue using the Pulsar lists whether they make
>> a
>> contribution
>> or not. The List is for the unmoderated exchange of ideas specific
>> to the given subject.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Matt Dralle
>> Matronics Email List Administrator
>>
>>
>> At 07:26 PM 11/22/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>>>
>>> Fellow Pulsar Builders/Owners
>>> I am a lurker and occasional participant in several lists.
>>>
>>> The Pulsar List is the only one which has approached me for
>>> a donation. The other lists are all free, seem to work
>>> fine without charges. I think we could get into a difficult
>>> situation with costs and charges if we all end up having to
>>> fund this list
>>>
>>> Should we be moving our list to another provider?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>
>>
>> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
>> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
>> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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