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Sun 04/22/12


Total Messages Posted: 5



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     1. 12:56 AM - Pulsar Parts (Keith Palmer)
     2. 09:41 AM - Re: Pulsars in SA (Esa Lehto)
     3. 01:50 PM - Re: Sad Story - Lost My Pulsar (HUGH COULTER)
     4. 03:10 PM - Re: N912RV power failure on takeoff (Bernard Wilder)
     5. 04:45 PM - Re: N912RV power failure on takeoff (Bob Heiser)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:56:54 AM PST US
    From: "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: Pulsar Parts
    Bob, If you want spares here are some photos of this Pulsar 1 aircraft that came from UAE without Import Permits and Documentation, which you might pick up for a song. I don't know where ealse you will find spares. Keith


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    Time: 09:41:28 AM PST US
    From: Esa Lehto <esalehto@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Pulsars in SA
    Hi,=0A=0AEnjoy Saudi Arabia! And have fun in Bahrain F1 race! I have been c ouple of times in Damman.=0A=0A=0AIt was a good race, watch it from Speed c hannel. You need to be next to the race track to understand how fast those cars accelerate and stop when they get to the corners. They get 1 G just wh en you release gas pedal and up to 4 G when you slam your brakes. When you do that 2 h I am not surprised that you are exhausted!=0A=0ABR,=0AEsa=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Ron Koval <ronko@att.net> =0ATo: Pulsar Builders <Pulsar-List@matronics.com> =0ASent: Saturday, April 21, 2012 11:13 AM=0ASubject: Pulsar-List: Pulsars in SA=0A =0A=0APulsar Fr iends,=0A-=0AMy work has taken me to beautiful Dammam, Saudi Arabia for 4 weeks.- Anybody know any Pulsar owners-in the area?- Wow, will I be surprised if I get a positive response.=0A-=0AGas is about $0.45/gallon h ere.=0A-=0AOn lucky thing on the work trip, I will get to see the Formula =========================0A =======


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    Time: 01:50:31 PM PST US
    From: "HUGH COULTER" <ccoulter@wavecable.com>
    Subject: Re: Sad Story - Lost My Pulsar
    On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 21:44:14 -0500 Bob Heiser <w7ikt@fly-web.us> wrote: > Lost my Pulsar yesterday. > Partial power failure at 50' > Went for a circuit of the pattern. > The total power failure. > Landed in Wheat field, was the straight ahead option at >that time. > Wiped landing gear which folded back and took out both >rear spars. > > Spent night in hospital, no broken bones, but lots of >bruises. > Engine also separated mount on left side. > Wing look like a total loss. > -- > *God Bless > Bob Heiser W7IKT* Bob Sorry to hear about your Pulsar. Gload you were not hurt as much as the Plane. Clarke


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    Time: 03:10:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: N912RV power failure on takeoff
    From: Bernard Wilder <bernard.wilder2@gmail.com>
    Bob, Sorry about your loss. Question - - - was your electric fuel pump mounted at an angle ? ? ? Bernie Wilder On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Bob Heiser <w7ikt@fly-web.us> wrote: > Has anyone else had a problem with an automotive 12v electric fuel pump? > The following is the story of trouble shooting the engine quit on takeoff . > ======================== ================= > > > With permission from the NTSB and the help of my son I trouble shot the > loss of power.**** > > =B7 Checked inside the right tank for debris none found.**** > > =B7 The tank appeared empty, no gas came out of quick drain. We > removed the quick drain with a pan to catch any gas or debris. We > drained about and ounce of gas trapped because the quick drain extends in to > the wing. No water and just a few specks of dirt were found.**** > > =B7 Removed mechanical fuel pump and it worked properly.**** > > =B7 The clear fuel filter (in fuel line going to mechanical pump) > was empty.**** > > =B7 We tried blowing air into the tank from the fuel hose that > connects to the input of the mechanical pump. Unable to blow air into > either tank.**** > > =B7 The rout of fuel to the mechanical fuel pump is: Tank, fuel > selector 12v Electric fuel pump, clear glass fuel filter, mechanical pump . > **** > > =B7 We removed the hose between the fuel selector and 12v electric > fuel pump. Still unable to blow through the electric pump. Note, all > that is left is 1 hose and the 12v electric pump. All the fuel hoses > were in good condition, no swelling, able to look thru the short hoses.** * > * > > =B7 We removed the wings because the spars prevented access to the > 12v electric fuel pump. Access to the electric pump was still difficult > thru a hole in the seat bottom. After we removed the electric pump it > was no longer restricted. The removal process cleared the obstruction. We > checked the fuel line from the mechanical fuel pump to the electric pump > for debris, none found. **** > > When telling the trouble shooting story on the airport a pilot friend sai d > he had a similar problem with an automotive electric fuel pump in a SkyBo lt > he built years ago.**** > > Note the Facet 574A fuel pump was supplied in the Aero Designs Kit. It > is turned on for 15 seconds prior to engine start. There have been > reports of the electric pump and mechanical pump both on flooding the > carb=92s. I did see higher than recommended pressures during flight test ing > with the electric pump on. > > It took 4 minutes for the engine to reach 120F before starting takeoff. > About half the time was taxi, the other half at 4000 rpm waiting for the > oil temperature to reach 120F. Do not know how many ounces of fuel the > carb's hold. Wonder if the 4 minutes + was just running on fuel in the > carbs? > **** > > -- > *God Bless > Bob Heiser W7IKT* > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 04:45:31 PM PST US
    From: Bob Heiser <w7ikt@fly-web.us>
    Subject: Re: N912RV power failure on takeoff
    No, pump was horizontal. There is no check valve in the pump. I can blow thru from both directions after removing the pump. The pump and section of vent line are going to the NTSB tomorrow. I figure the fuel burn at about 1 oz per minute. Or 4 oz out of a 9.5 gallon tank. Or 4oz out of the empty space of 4 gallons. How much vacuum would removing 4 oz from 4 gallons cause? When I get done with NTSB, FAA, Insurance I will post pictures. Found extensive damage in the foot well today. *God Bless Bob Heiser W7IKT* On 4/22/2012 5:09 PM, Bernard Wilder wrote: > Bob, > Sorry about your loss. > Question - - - was your electric fuel pump mounted at an angle ? ? ? > Bernie Wilder > > On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Bob Heiser <w7ikt@fly-web.us > <mailto:w7ikt@fly-web.us>> wrote: > > Has anyone else had a problem with an automotive 12v electric fuel > pump? > The following is the story of trouble shooting the engine quit on > takeoff. > ================ > > > With permission from the NTSB and the help of my son I trouble > shot the loss of power. > > Checked inside the right tank for debris none found. > > The tank appeared empty, no gas came out of quick drain.We > removed the quick drain with a pan to catch any gas or debris.We > drained about and ounce of gas trapped because the quick drain > extends into the wing.No water and just a few specks of dirt were > found. > > Removed mechanical fuel pump and it worked properly. > > The clear fuel filter (in fuel line going to mechanical pump) was > empty. > > We tried blowing air into the tank from the fuel hose that > connects to the input of the mechanical pump.Unable to blow air > into either tank. > > The rout of fuel to the mechanical fuel pump is:Tank, fuel > selector 12v Electric fuel pump, clear glass fuel filter, > mechanical pump. > > We removed the hose between the fuel selector and 12v electric > fuel pump.Still unable to blow through the electric pump.Note, all > that is left is 1 hose and the 12v electric pump.All the fuel > hoses were in good condition, no swelling, able to look thru the > short hoses. > > We removed the wings because the spars prevented access to the > 12v electric fuel pump.Access to the electric pump was still > difficult thru a hole in the seat bottom.After we removed the > electric pump it was no longer restricted.The removal process > cleared the obstruction.We checked the fuel line from the > mechanical fuel pump to the electric pump for debris, none found. > > When telling the trouble shooting story on the airport a pilot > friend said he had a similar problem with an automotive electric > fuel pump in a SkyBolt he built years ago. > > Note the Facet 574A fuel pump was supplied in the Aero Designs > Kit.It is turned on for 15 seconds prior to engine start.There > have been reports of the electric pump and mechanical pump both on > flooding the carbs. I did see higher than recommended pressures > during flight testing with the electric pump on. > > It took 4 minutes for the engine to reach 120F before starting > takeoff. About half the time was taxi, the other half at 4000 rpm > waiting for the oil temperature to reach 120F. Do not know how > many ounces of fuel the carb's hold. Wonder if the 4 minutes + > was just running on fuel in the carbs? > > > -- > *God Bless > Bob Heiser W7IKT* > > * > > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List > ttp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > * > > > * > > > *




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