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Tue 07/17/12


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     1. 05:16 PM - Pulsar weight restrictions (GREGSMI@aol.com)
     2. 07:29 PM - Re: [Pulsar-Aviators] Pulsar weight restrictions (pilot623)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:16:34 PM PST US
    From: GREGSMI@aol.com
    Subject: Pulsar weight restrictions
    All the discussion on Pulsar gross weights got me back into the manuals, news letters, and finally discussions with my favorite air craft designer. I know there has been some confusion about this, and if you have a plane that was purchased and built in stages, then this can be very confusing. So, here is the simple explanation. Early Pulsar kits had a sitka spruce wood spar. Spar caps of unidirectional glass were added to the top and bottom of the spar for strength. On the earliest wood spars, the spar caps did not go all the way to the wing tip. The gross weight of a Pulsar built with these spars is 870 pounds. Latter in the program, the spar caps were extended to almost the wing tip. With that, the gross weight was upped to 900 pounds. 900 pounds is the max for the wood spar. This is exactly as stated by Alan Gill for Pulsar aircraft in the UK. Later Pulsars had the composite spar and gross weight was increased to 1060 pounds. Please note, gross weight limitation is solely determined by the spar material and spar caps. Composite wing skins and added glass to the spar sides does not increase the max gross weight. I have looked in the Skystar manuals and not found the numbers for their aircraft, so will limit my comments to the Aerodesigns kits. Flying an airplane over it's design limit is like driving a car, with smooth tires, at high speed on a wet surface. You may get away with it, until you hit a puddle, or in our case, turbulence. Turbulence adds G loading, and if you are over design limits, the wing could fail, not a good situation. Needless to say, this is a major safety issue, and thus my concern. If you have any questions about this, please get back to me and I will try to get an answer for you. Fly safe, See you at Oshkosh, Greg Jabiru 2200 Pulsar 1500 hours


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    Time: 07:29:15 PM PST US
    From: "pilot623" <pilot623@gmail.com>
    Subject: RE: [Pulsar-Aviators] Pulsar weight restrictions
    As one of the few AD Series 2 Pulsar owners, I will add that the Series 2 carries a max gross weight of 1200 pounds. Jim _____ From: Pulsar-Aviators@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pulsar-Aviators@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gregsmi@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:16 PM Subject: [Pulsar-Aviators] Pulsar weight restrictions All the discussion on Pulsar gross weights got me back into the manuals, news letters, and finally discussions with my favorite air craft designer. I know there has been some confusion about this, and if you have a plane that was purchased and built in stages, then this can be very confusing. So, here is the simple explanation. Early Pulsar kits had a sitka spruce wood spar. Spar caps of unidirectional glass were added to the top and bottom of the spar for strength. On the earliest wood spars, the spar caps did not go all the way to the wing tip. The gross weight of a Pulsar built with these spars is 870 pounds. Latter in the program, the spar caps were extended to almost the wing tip. With that, the gross weight was upped to 900 pounds. 900 pounds is the max for the wood spar. This is exactly as stated by Alan Gill for Pulsar aircraft in the UK. Later Pulsars had the composite spar and gross weight was increased to 1060 pounds. Please note, gross weight limitation is solely determined by the spar material and spar caps. Composite wing skins and added glass to the spar sides does not increase the max gross weight. I have looked in the Skystar manuals and not found the numbers for their aircraft, so will limit my comments to the Aerodesigns kits. Flying an airplane over it's design limit is like driving a car, with smooth tires, at high speed on a wet surface. You may get away with it, until you hit a puddle, or in our case, turbulence. Turbulence adds G loading, and if you are over design limits, the wing could fail, not a good situation. Needless to say, this is a major safety issue, and thus my concern. If you have any questions about this, please get back to me and I will try to get an answer for you. Fly safe, See you at Oshkosh, Greg Jabiru 2200 Pulsar 1500 hours __._,_.___ Reply <mailto:GREGSMI@aol.com?subject=Re%3A%20Pulsar%20weight%20restrictions> to sender | Reply <mailto:Pulsar-Aviators@yahoogroups.com?subject=Re%3A%20Pulsar%20weight%20re strictions> to group | Reply <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pulsar-Aviators/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxNm85cDY1BF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMDMxMjUzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTc4NjA4MwRtc2dJZAM0MDE0BHN lYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM0MjU3MDU0OA--?act=reply&messageNum=4014> via web post | Start <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pulsar-Aviators/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJmb25hM3Y3BF9 TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMDMxMjUzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTc4NjA4MwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN udHBjBHN0aW1lAzEzNDI1NzA1NDg-> a New Topic Messages <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pulsar-Aviators/message/4014;_ylc=X3oDMTM1ZXZ hNXV2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMDMxMjUzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTc4NjA4MwRtc2dJZAM 0MDE0BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM0MjU3MDU0OAR0cGNJZAM0MDE0> in this topic (1) Recent Activity: * New <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pulsar-Aviators/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJndDFmdnJ1 BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMDMxMjUzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTc4NjA4MwRzZWMDdnRsBHNs awN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxMzQyNTcwNTQ4?o=6> Members 1 Visit <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pulsar-Aviators;_ylc=X3oDMTJmMXFzbTc0BF9TAzk3 MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEzMDMxMjUzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTc4NjA4MwRzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hw BHN0aW1lAzEzNDI1NzA1NDg-> Your Group <http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJldmNzOWp0BF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEzM DMxMjUzBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNTc4NjA4MwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTM0MjU3MDU0O A--> Yahoo! Groups Switch to: Text-Only <mailto:Pulsar-Aviators-traditional@yahoogroups.com?subject=Change Delivery Format: Traditional> , Daily <mailto:Pulsar-Aviators-digest@yahoogroups.com?subject=Email Delivery: Digest> Digest . Unsubscribe <mailto:Pulsar-Aviators-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> . Terms of Use <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> . <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=13031253/grpspId=1705786083/msgI d=4014/stime=1342570548/nc1=4507179/nc2=3848614/nc3=4767085> __,_._,___




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