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Sat 08/18/12


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 12:49 AM - Re: Wheel pants (Alex Kozloff)
     2. 02:12 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Alan Gill)
     3. 06:32 AM - Re: Wheel pants (Dennis Adams)
     4. 08:40 AM - Re: Wheel pants (Keith Palmer)
     5. 11:21 AM - Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/17/12 (Bob Hartunian)
     6. 11:53 AM - Re: Wheel pants (Bob Heiser)
     7. 01:30 PM - Re: Wheel pants (Orv/Lorraine Krohn)
     8. 02:15 PM - Re: Wheel pants (Bob Heiser)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:49:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wheel pants
    From: "Alex Kozloff" <avkozloff@roadrunner.com>


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    Time: 02:12:19 AM PST US
    From: Alan Gill <alan99gill@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
    Bernard=0A-=0AAre you able to measure the thickness of your foam filled u ndercarriage-?? say 12 inches down from where it come out of the fuselage . Just good details to have, so that when I get enquiries as to what U/C th e owner has, I can advise.=0A-=0AFYI .. we in the UK mainly fly off from grass runways, and as the early Pulsars (mine included) were fitted with "f oam filled" undercarrages, they gave very little flexing on landing,-and started to delaminate/crack. I indicated to Mark Brown our problems!! -(w e also had front nose leg strut problems, so a "spring" strut link was desi gned by Mark).-Mark-then started to supply the "all glass" composite ma in gear-U/C (I think this was around 1992/3). It was more flexable on lan ding, and gave no problems (but for any mis-handleing).=0A-=0ARegards=0AA lan Gill=0AUK Pulsar Squadron Support=0A-=0A =0A=0A______________________ __________=0A From: Bernard Wilder <bernard.wilder2@gmail.com>=0ATo: pulsar -list@matronics.com =0ASent: Friday, 17 August 2012, 14:57=0ASubject: Re: P ulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.=0A =0A=0AKit #390 after tw elve years is still flying with the original foam filled composite gear. It has seen-about 1,500 smooth landings and 500 teeth jarers. (( give or ta ke a few.)) =0A=0AAbout eight years ago a crack developed that ran two inch es up from the very bottom on one side. The wheel mounting plate places two mounting bolts either side of the crack. that keeps the crack from spreadi ng open.. The crack has never gone any farther up the gear so I didn't do a nything about it and have long since stopped worrying about it. =0A=0A=0AAf ter twelve years the gear has developed a little permanent spread.- The w heels no longer sit exactly straight up and down.- Close but not exactly. =0A=0AHEY - - - - we all develop a little spread with age. I expect to go on for a few more years and I expect my gear to do the same. =0A=0ABernie Wilder=0A=0A =0AOn Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:04 AM, mjb777 <mattbrock777@gmail @gmail.com>=0A>=0A>Hi guys,=0A>=0A>Time for a new question.=0A>=0A>My Pulsa r 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear.=0A>=0A>It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any modificati ons required, or issues with these in service?=0A>=0A>Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite main gear?=0A>=0A>Matt .=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Pulsar 1 TD Kit.=0A>Captain B777.=0A>Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381===== ====================0A>y Browse, Chat , FAQ,=0A>="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List" target="_bl ank">http:======0A>http://forums.mle, List Admin.=0A>==== =====================


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    Time: 06:32:09 AM PST US
    From: Dennis Adams <ghf4986@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Wheel pants
    Sent from an IPad On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:04 PM, "GREGSMI@aol.com" <GREGSMI@aol.com> wrote: Does anyone have a spare set of main gear wheel pants? I am looking for the small wheel pants over the 11X4X5 tires. Thanks Greg * *


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    Time: 08:40:09 AM PST US
    From: "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za>
    Subject: Re: Wheel pants
    I have a new un-worked on or painted set, which I mentioned to Greg ! K'd ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Adams To: pulsar-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Wheel pants Sent from an IPad On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:04 PM, "GREGSMI@aol.com" <GREGSMI@aol.com> wrote: Does anyone have a spare set of main gear wheel pants? I am looking for the small wheel pants over the 11X4X5 tires. Thanks Greg ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List ics.com .matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 11:21:26 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/17/12
    From: Bob Hartunian <bobh5@earthlink.net>
    Wrapping with carbon provides higher torsional and bending stiffness than just a glass wrap of equivalent thickness; on the order of 3-4X stiffer. So for best efficiency, use carbon wrap. For the bearing situation of glass composite at gear attachment, glass has low bearing strength (35,000 psi) compared to alum (80,000 psi), so easiest way to increase bearing is to apply more localized glass to thicken section or make steel inserts that bond into enlarged attachment holes. Inserts would be on the order of 3/8"OD with 1/4" ID and good to have a flanged surface for bond area. Bob H > From: Pulsar-List Digest Server <pulsar-list@matronics.com> > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 23:58:06 -0700 > To: Pulsar-List Digest List <pulsar-list-digest@matronics.com> > Subject: Pulsar-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/17/12 > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Pulsar-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Pulsar-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter=2 > 012-08-17&Archive=Pulsar > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter > 12-08-17&Archive=Pulsar > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Pulsar-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Fri 08/17/12: 9 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 01:05 AM - Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (mjb777) > 2. 02:43 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > (pulsar331@sbcglobal.net) > 3. 03:03 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Scott - Special > Effects Armourer) > 4. 06:58 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Bernard Wilder) > 5. 07:34 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Keith Palmer) > 6. 09:14 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Scott - Special > Effects Armourer) > 7. 09:14 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Scott - Special > Effects Armourer) > 8. 09:35 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Ray Wilhelm) > 9. 01:28 PM - Re: Wheel pants (Larry Eubanks) > > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:05:08 AM PST US > Subject: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > From: "mjb777" <mattbrock777@gmail.com> > > > Hi guys, > > Time for a new question. > > My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. > > It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any > modifications > required, or issues with these in service? > > Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite main > gear? > > Matt. > > -------- > Pulsar 1 TD Kit. > Captain B777. > Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:43:35 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > From: pulsar331@sbcglobal.net > > > Some of us added a wrap of fiberglass or carbon fiber around the lower part of > the leg. I used carbon fiber - about 1/2" wide wrapped around the very end of > the leg and another just above the where the axle mounts. There were small > cracks > developing and the wraps stopped that. That was 10 years ago - no more > problems > with that area. However, I have also had problems with the bolt holes > wearing where the gear mounts to the seat back and to the gusset. Once the > holes > are worn you get a popping sound when turning. I have not come up with a good > permanent fix for that yet. So far I just keep them tight, but a repair in > that area is in the future. > > Bill Coleman > Pulsar XP N331BP > > > On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:04 AM, "mjb777" <mattbrock777@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Time for a new question. >> >> My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. >> >> It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any >> modifications > required, or issues with these in service? >> >> Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite >> main > gear? >> >> Matt. >> >> -------- >> Pulsar 1 TD Kit. >> Captain B777. >> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:03:29 AM PST US > From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer <scott@s-f-x.com> > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > > > My gear is composite - 20 years old and was not reinforced. It broke during a > soft > landing so I chose a repair which has taken 4 months and cost a fortune > (insurance > claim). I should have gone for the alu leg from Grove. They made a special > for lighter models. Mine is 1060lbs MTOW. > > Cheers > > Scott MacIntyre > > > On 17 Aug 2012, at 10:42, pulsar331@sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> >> Some of us added a wrap of fiberglass or carbon fiber around the lower part >> of > the leg. I used carbon fiber - about 1/2" wide wrapped around the very end > of the leg and another just above the where the axle mounts. There were small > cracks developing and the wraps stopped that. That was 10 years ago - no more > problems with that area. However, I have also had problems with the bolt > holes > wearing where the gear mounts to the seat back and to the gusset. Once the > holes > are worn you get a popping sound when turning. I have not come up with a > good permanent fix for that yet. So far I just keep them tight, but a repair > in > that area is in the future. >> >> Bill Coleman >> Pulsar XP N331BP >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 17, 2012, at 4:04 AM, "mjb777" <mattbrock777@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Time for a new question. >>> >>> My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. >>> >>> It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any >>> modifications > required, or issues with these in service? >>> >>> Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite >>> main > gear? >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> -------- >>> Pulsar 1 TD Kit. >>> Captain B777. >>> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:58:26 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > From: Bernard Wilder <bernard.wilder2@gmail.com> > > Kit #390 after twelve years is still flying with the original foam filled > composite gear. It has seen about 1,500 smooth landings and 500 teeth > jarers. (( give or take a few.)) > > About eight years ago a crack developed that ran two inches up from the > very bottom on one side. The wheel mounting plate places two mounting bolts > either side of the crack. that keeps the crack from spreading open.. The > crack has never gone any farther up the gear so I didn't do anything about > it and have long since stopped worrying about it. > > > After twelve years the gear has developed a little permanent spread. The > wheels no longer sit exactly straight up and down. Close but not exactly. > > HEY - - - - we all develop a little spread with age. I expect to go on for > a few more years and I expect my gear to do the same. > > Bernie Wilder > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:04 AM, mjb777 <mattbrock777@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Time for a new question. >> >> My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. >> >> It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any >> modifications required, or issues with these in service? >> >> Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite >> main gear? >> >> Matt. >> >> -------- >> Pulsar 1 TD Kit. >> Captain B777. >> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:34:35 AM PST US > From: "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > > > The very early main gears had problems and a heavier core ? was used which > improved the gear. Later a mod came out because of splitting at the bolt > holes for the slub axles, this envolved wrapping carbon fibre around the > lower 5 or 6" where the bolts went through to stop the splitting. ( for > Bernard ) > > K'd > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mjb777" <mattbrock777@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:04 AM > Subject: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > > >> >> Hi guys, >> >> Time for a new question. >> >> My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. >> >> It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any >> modifications required, or issues with these in service? >> >> Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite >> main gear? >> >> Matt. >> >> -------- >> Pulsar 1 TD Kit. >> Captain B777. >> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:14:07 AM PST US > From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer <scott@s-f-x.com> > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > > > I did ask the repairer (Roger Targett, a composite specialist) to wrap my > repaired > leg and I mentioned the norm was carbon - he seemed to take the view that > glass was more appropriate. He has wrapped the 2" above and below the radius > i.e. > a 4" sock. He does this on the Extra to stop the leg delaminating. Not sure > about the science but I am happy to take his advice. > > Scott MacIntyre > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Aug 2012, at 15:33, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> wrote: > >> >> The very early main gears had problems and a heavier core ? was used which >> improved > the gear. Later a mod came out because of splitting at the bolt holes for > the slub axles, this envolved wrapping carbon fibre around the lower 5 or 6" > where the bolts went through to stop the splitting. ( for Bernard ) >> >> K'd >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mjb777" <mattbrock777@gmail.com> >> To: <pulsar-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:04 AM >> Subject: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. >> >> >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Time for a new question. >>> >>> My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. >>> >>> It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any >>> modifications > required, or issues with these in service? >>> >>> Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite >>> main > gear? >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> -------- >>> Pulsar 1 TD Kit. >>> Captain B777. >>> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:14:11 AM PST US > From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer <scott@s-f-x.com> > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > > > I did ask the repairer (Roger Targett, a composite specialist) to wrap my > repaired > leg and I mentioned the norm was carbon - he seemed to take the view that > glass was more appropriate. He has wrapped the 2" above and below the radius > i.e. > a 4" sock. He does this on the Extra to stop the leg delaminating. Not sure > about the science but I am happy to take his advice. > > Scott MacIntyre > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Aug 2012, at 15:33, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> wrote: > >> >> The very early main gears had problems and a heavier core ? was used which >> improved > the gear. Later a mod came out because of splitting at the bolt holes for > the slub axles, this envolved wrapping carbon fibre around the lower 5 or 6" > where the bolts went through to stop the splitting. ( for Bernard ) >> >> K'd >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mjb777" <mattbrock777@gmail.com> >> To: <pulsar-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:04 AM >> Subject: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. >> >> >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Time for a new question. >>> >>> My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. >>> >>> It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any >>> modifications > required, or issues with these in service? >>> >>> Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite >>> main > gear? >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> -------- >>> Pulsar 1 TD Kit. >>> Captain B777. >>> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:35:13 AM PST US > From: "Ray Wilhelm" <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> > Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > > > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III. It > added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They have a > tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal. > > Ray Pulsar III/3300 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott - Special > Effects Armourer > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 9:13 AM > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. > > --> <scott@s-f-x.com> > > I did ask the repairer (Roger Targett, a composite specialist) to wrap my > repaired leg and I mentioned the norm was carbon - he seemed to take the > view that glass was more appropriate. He has wrapped the 2" above and below > the radius i.e. a 4" sock. He does this on the Extra to stop the leg > delaminating. Not sure about the science but I am happy to take his advice. > > Scott MacIntyre > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Aug 2012, at 15:33, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> wrote: > >> --> <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> >> >> The very early main gears had problems and a heavier core ? was used >> which improved the gear. Later a mod came out because of splitting at >> the bolt holes for the slub axles, this envolved wrapping carbon fibre >> around the lower 5 or 6" where the bolts went through to stop the >> splitting. ( for Bernard ) >> >> K'd >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mjb777" <mattbrock777@gmail.com> >> To: <pulsar-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 10:04 AM >> Subject: Pulsar-List: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. >> >> >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> Time for a new question. >>> >>> My Pulsar 1 tail dragger kit has the original composite main gear. >>> >>> It looks to be in good condition, however I wonder if there have been any > modifications required, or issues with these in service? >>> >>> Are there still many Pulsars out there flying with the original composite > main gear? >>> >>> Matt. >>> >>> -------- >>> Pulsar 1 TD Kit. >>> Captain B777. >>> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381056#381056 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:28:25 PM PST US > From: "Larry Eubanks" <leubanks@sunflower.com> > Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Wheel pants > > > One of the rear mounting bolts for my taidragger main gear has broken. > All the taildragger supplement manual says is 5/16 bolt (countersunk). > Anybody know what this bolt might be and how to find one? The broken > bolt is a phillips head about 1 1/2 " long with a 7/8 inch bare shank. > Thanks > Larry Eubanks > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:53:39 AM PST US
    From: Bob Heiser <w7ikt@fly-web.us>
    Subject: Re: Wheel pants
    I have a set of never used wheel pants. I did have the large tire option. Do not know if the wheel pants were different for the small tires. *God Bless Bob Heiser formerly N912RV Pulsar XP *


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    Time: 01:30:00 PM PST US
    From: "Orv/Lorraine Krohn" <olk@plateautel.net>
    Subject: Wheel pants
    Bob - Have you decided yet on getting another Pulsar XP. Mine [525 'glitch-free' hours} is still up for sale. Sure hate to part with my "Wings on the Wind" Ps.18:10, but age and health necessites that decision. God bless and keep you! Orv Krohn _____ From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Heiser Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:53 PM Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Wheel pants I have a set of never used wheel pants. I did have the large tire option. Do not know if the wheel pants were different for the small tires. God Bless Bob Heiser formerly N912RV Pulsar XP


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    Time: 02:15:07 PM PST US
    From: Bob Heiser <w7ikt@fly-web.us>
    Subject: Re: Wheel pants
    Orv, Due to Carol's shoulder problems we are looking at high wing LSA's. Still like the Pulsar best. *God Bless Bob Heiser W7IKT* On 8/18/2012 3:29 PM, Orv/Lorraine Krohn wrote: > > Bob -- Have you decided yet on getting another Pulsar XP. Mine [525 > 'glitch-free' hours} is still up for sale. Sure hate to part with my > "Wings on the Wind" Ps.18:10, but age and health necessites that > decision. God bless and keep you! Orv Krohn > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Heiser > *Sent:* Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:53 PM > *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Pulsar-List: Wheel pants > > I have a set of never used wheel pants. > I did have the large tire option. > Do not know if the wheel pants were different for the small tires. > > *God Bless > Bob Heiser formerly N912RV Pulsar XP* > > * * > * * > ** > * - The Pulsar-List Email Forum -* > ** > ** > * -->http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List* > * - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -* > * -->http://forums.matronics.com* > * - List Contribution Web Site -* > * -Matt Dralle, List Admin.* > ** > * * > * > > > *




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