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1. 01:01 AM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (mjb777)
2. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Larry Wheat)
3. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Ray Wilhelm)
4. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Larry Wheat)
5. 09:11 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Ray Wilhelm)
6. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Larry Wheat)
7. 09:57 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Ray Wilhelm)
8. 11:02 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Larry Wheat)
9. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Ray Wilhelm)
10. 11:27 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Larry Wheat)
11. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Pulsar747N)
12. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Ray Wilhelm)
13. 12:06 PM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Ray Wilhelm)
14. 01:15 PM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Larry Wheat)
15. 02:56 PM - Grove Gear (everettmcollier)
16. 11:08 PM - Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (mjb777)
17. 11:34 PM - Re: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. (Cd)
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III. It
> added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They have a
> tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
>
>
> --
Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the whole
gear or specific areas?
Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
Matt.
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
I have the completely composite (glass) one piece gear on my Pulsar III.
Has anyone had a problem with this gear that I should be aware of. So far,
so good with about 50+ landings on it. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:00 AM, mjb777 <mattbrock777@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III. It
> > added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They have a
> > tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
> >
> > Ray Pulsar III/3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to
> the whole gear or specific areas?
>
> Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
>
> Matt.
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
landing tests.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
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From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
>
>
> --
Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the
whole gear or specific areas?
Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
Matt.
--------
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Captain B777.
Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
How do you like the grove and how was the installation. So far we have not
experienced any thing on the glass gear but I have been inspecting it every
day after flights. It is painted white so any cracking should show up
pretty good. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
> about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
> glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
> The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
> landing tests.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
>
>
>
> rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> > It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> > have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
> >
> > Ray Pulsar III/3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to
> the
> whole gear or specific areas?
>
> Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
>
> Matt.
>
> --------
> Pulsar 1 TD Kit.
> Captain B777.
> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381581#381581
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
It is not the cracks, Larry. The soak back from the brakes softens the glass
and the gear just folds over. It does not happen right away. It takes time.
Mine collapsed in the Hanger. Love the Grove but get the one piece and
install it like the original by cutting out the bottom joint you made
originally.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wheat
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
How do you like the grove and how was the installation. So far we have not
experienced any thing on the glass gear but I have been inspecting it every
day after flights. It is painted white so any cracking should show up pretty
good. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
landing tests.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com <http://dc.rr.com/> wrote:
> There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
> --
Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the
whole gear or specific areas?
Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
Matt.
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Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
What would be a check to keep an eye on it. Any indications prior to
collapse that I could look for. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
> It is not the cracks, Larry. The soak back from the brakes softens the
> glass and the gear just folds over. It does not happen right away. It takes
> time. Mine collapsed in the Hanger. Love the Grove but get the one piece
> and install it like the original by cutting out the bottom joint you made
> originally.****
>
> ** **
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Wheat
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:16 AM
> *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.****
>
> ** **
>
> How do you like the grove and how was the installation. So far we have not
> experienced any thing on the glass gear but I have been inspecting it every
> day after flights. It is painted white so any cracking should show up
> pretty good. Cheers, Larry N852LW****
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>
> I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
> about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
> glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
> The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
> landing tests.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
>
>
>
> rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> > It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> > have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
> >
> > Ray Pulsar III/3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to
> the
> whole gear or specific areas?
>
> Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
>
> Matt.
>
> --------
> Pulsar 1 TD Kit.
> Captain B777.
> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
Are you doing hard stops with wheel pants on? If not, no worry.
R
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[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wheat
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
What would be a check to keep an eye on it. Any indications prior to
collapse that I could look for. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
It is not the cracks, Larry. The soak back from the brakes softens the glass
and the gear just folds over. It does not happen right away. It takes time.
Mine collapsed in the Hanger. Love the Grove but get the one piece and
install it like the original by cutting out the bottom joint you made
originally.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wheat
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
How do you like the grove and how was the installation. So far we have not
experienced any thing on the glass gear but I have been inspecting it every
day after flights. It is painted white so any cracking should show up pretty
good. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
landing tests.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com <http://dc.rr.com/> wrote:
> There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
> --
Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the
whole gear or specific areas?
Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
Matt.
--------
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Captain B777.
Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
No I elected to leave the pants off until I hit the 100 hr mark. Just to
make sure my proficiency is up to par.Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
> Are you doing hard stops with wheel pants on? If not, no worry.****
>
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> R****
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> *From:* owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Wheat
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:46 AM
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> *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.****
>
> ** **
>
> What would be a check to keep an eye on it. Any indications prior to
> collapse that I could look for. Cheers, Larry N852LW****
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> It is not the cracks, Larry. The soak back from the brakes softens the
> glass and the gear just folds over. It does not happen right away. It takes
> time. Mine collapsed in the Hanger. Love the Grove but get the one piece
> and install it like the original by cutting out the bottom joint you made
> originally.****
>
> ****
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Wheat
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:16 AM
> *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.****
>
> ****
>
> How do you like the grove and how was the installation. So far we have not
> experienced any thing on the glass gear but I have been inspecting it every
> day after flights. It is painted white so any cracking should show up
> pretty good. Cheers, Larry N852LW****
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>
> I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
> about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
> glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
> The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
> landing tests.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
>
>
>
> rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> > It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> > have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
> >
> > Ray Pulsar III/3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to
> the
> whole gear or specific areas?
>
> Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
>
> Matt.
>
> --------
> Pulsar 1 TD Kit.
> Captain B777.
> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
I failed the gear in tests to determine the shortest landing length at the
highest touch down speed. At 100 mph tough down the distance was about 1200
ft. at sea level and 70 F. It was just to see what may be possible someday.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
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[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wheat
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
No I elected to leave the pants off until I hit the 100 hr mark. Just to
make sure my proficiency is up to par.Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
Are you doing hard stops with wheel pants on? If not, no worry.
R
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wheat
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
What would be a check to keep an eye on it. Any indications prior to
collapse that I could look for. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
It is not the cracks, Larry. The soak back from the brakes softens the glass
and the gear just folds over. It does not happen right away. It takes time.
Mine collapsed in the Hanger. Love the Grove but get the one piece and
install it like the original by cutting out the bottom joint you made
originally.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Wheat
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
How do you like the grove and how was the installation. So far we have not
experienced any thing on the glass gear but I have been inspecting it every
day after flights. It is painted white so any cracking should show up pretty
good. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
landing tests.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com <http://dc.rr.com/> wrote:
> There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
> --
Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the
whole gear or specific areas?
Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
Matt.
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
During first time testing our highest touchdown speed was 70. We only have
2400 ft so not a lot of room. Didn't have any trouble slowing down "almost"
mid turn with no braking which surprised all of us. Just wanted to keep the
speed up until we could get some parameters. After installing the Vortex
Generators lowered threshold to 70 and touchdown at around 60. This is
pretty close to my landing speed with my Excalibur so pretty pleased with
the overall performance so far. Sweet airplane. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:
> I failed the gear in tests to determine the shortest landing length at
> the highest touch down speed. At 100 mph tough down the distance was about
> 1200 ft. at sea level and 70 F. It was just to see what may be possible
> someday.****
>
> ** **
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Wheat
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:59 AM
>
> *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.****
>
> ** **
>
> No I elected to leave the pants off until I hit the 100 hr mark. Just to
> make sure my proficiency is up to par.Cheers, Larry N852LW****
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> Are you doing hard stops with wheel pants on? If not, no worry.****
>
> ****
>
> R****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Wheat
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 9:46 AM ****
>
>
> *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.****
>
> ****
>
> What would be a check to keep an eye on it. Any indications prior to
> collapse that I could look for. Cheers, Larry N852LW****
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:**
> **
>
> It is not the cracks, Larry. The soak back from the brakes softens the
> glass and the gear just folds over. It does not happen right away. It takes
> time. Mine collapsed in the Hanger. Love the Grove but get the one piece
> and install it like the original by cutting out the bottom joint you made
> originally.****
>
> ****
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300****
>
> ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry Wheat
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:16 AM
> *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.****
>
> ****
>
> How do you like the grove and how was the installation. So far we have not
> experienced any thing on the glass gear but I have been inspecting it every
> day after flights. It is painted white so any cracking should show up
> pretty good. Cheers, Larry N852LW****
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com> wrote:**
> **
>
>
> I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
> about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
> glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
> The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
> landing tests.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300****
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
>
>
>
> rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> > It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> > have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
> >
> > Ray Pulsar III/3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to
> the
> whole gear or specific areas?
>
> Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
>
> Matt.
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I also had the same problem with the glass gear including the carbon wrap m
od. -I was doing high speed test runs and the-excessive heat generated
by the brakes collapsed the left leg about 2 inches up from the upper brake
holes.=0AI have not done anything yet but I am soon faced with replacing t
he gear with the Grove.=0ACarlos, Pulsar III / Aeromax--=0A=0A=0A______
__________________________=0A From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com>=0ATo:
pulsar-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:42 AM=0ASubj
ect: RE: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.=0A =0A--> Pul
sar-List message posted by: "Ray Wilhelm" <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com>=0A=0AI don't
have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to=0Aabout 1
8 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the=0Aglass g
ear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.=0AThe
glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast=0Alandin
g tests.=0A=0ARay- Pulsar III/3300=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0A
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-se
rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777=0ASent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1
:00 AM=0ATo: pulsar-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fibergla
" <mattbrock777@gmail.com>=0A=0A=0Arwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:=0A> There w
as also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III. =0A> It adde
d carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They =0A> have a
tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.=0A> =0A> Ray- - -
Pulsar III/3300=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> --=0A=0A=0ARay do you have any det
ails of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the=0Awhole gear or speci
fic areas?=0A=0ADoes your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?=0A=0AMatt
.=0A=0A--------=0APulsar 1 TD Kit.=0ACaptain B777.=0ALicenced Aircraft Main
tenance Engineer.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://fo
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Grove use to make both the one piece and a 2 piece. I went with the 2 piece
thinking it would be easier to install. Wrong! Just go with the 1 piece as
Bernie Berger did with his III.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pulsar747N
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
I also had the same problem with the glass gear including the carbon wrap
mod. I was doing high speed test runs and the excessive heat generated by
the brakes collapsed the left leg about 2 inches up from the upper brake
holes.
I have not done anything yet but I am soon faced with replacing the gear
with the Grove.
Carlos, Pulsar III / Aeromax
_____
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
landing tests.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com <http://dc.rr.com/> wrote:
> There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
>
>
> --
Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the
whole gear or specific areas?
Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
Matt.
--------
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Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
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Don't try to reheat it and bend it back. That won't work for long!
Ray
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pulsar747N
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
I also had the same problem with the glass gear including the carbon wrap
mod. I was doing high speed test runs and the excessive heat generated by
the brakes collapsed the left leg about 2 inches up from the upper brake
holes.
I have not done anything yet but I am soon faced with replacing the gear
with the Grove.
Carlos, Pulsar III / Aeromax
_____
From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:42 AM
Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
landing tests.
Ray Pulsar III/3300
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com <http://dc.rr.com/> wrote:
> There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
>
>
> --
Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to the
whole gear or specific areas?
Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
Matt.
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Carlos, did you have your wheel pants on or off. Cheers, Larry N852LW
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Pulsar747N <pulsar747n@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I also had the same problem with the glass gear including the carbon
> wrap mod. I was doing high speed test runs and the excessive heat
> generated by the brakes collapsed the left leg about 2 inches up from the
> upper brake holes.
> I have not done anything yet but I am soon faced with replacing the gear
> with the Grove.
> Carlos, Pulsar III / Aeromax
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com>
> *To:* pulsar-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:42 AM
> *Subject:* RE: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
>
>
> I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
> about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
> glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago.
> The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
> landing tests.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
>
>
>
> rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> > It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> > have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
> >
> > Ray Pulsar III/3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to
> the
> whole gear or specific areas?
>
> Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
>
> Matt.
>
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I installed the Grove gear on my 582 pulsar.
1. It is easier to install because you don't have to make the mounting tabs.
2. It is much heavier. With the tabs, about 13 lbs heavier!
3. It is a couple of inches taller than the 582 gear it replaced.
Everett Collier
582 Pulsar SN 167
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| Subject: | Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age. |
Interesting to read about the fiberglass gear structural issues due to general
wear and tear and also the possible thermal problem from the brakes also. I Think
I may have a $40 solution.
I'd like to recommend an amazing product I have used for years, which is BVM, (Bob
Violett Models), "Heat Shield Paint". I know what you may think when the word
"models" comes into it, (not the nice ones that prance around either), but
honestly this stuff is amazing! I used it a lot on my turbine powered model jets
and it really was incredible how this ceramic paint reflected heat and kept
structure cool even when the structure or skin was mm from the engine. It sticks
like the proverbial and is feather light, and cheap also!!
There are probably tons of other places this could be used in composite or otherwise
homebuilts but I'd say at a glance that this would be very worthwhile painted
on the face of the Fiberglass gear leg that it subjected to radiation heat
from the brakes. Some reinforced ventilation slots or holes in the top of the
pants would generate convection through the pant also.
Check out the BVM website.
Matt.
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I had the wheel pants on.
Carlos Pulsar III
On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Larry Wheat <lwheat2083@gmail.com> wrote:
> Carlos, did you have your wheel pants on or off. Cheers, Larry N852LW
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Pulsar747N <pulsar747n@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I also had the same problem with the glass gear including the carbon wrap m
od. I was doing high speed test runs and the excessive heat generated by th
e brakes collapsed the left leg about 2 inches up from the upper brake holes
.
> I have not done anything yet but I am soon faced with replacing the gear w
ith the Grove.
> Carlos, Pulsar III / Aeromax
>
> From: Ray Wilhelm <rwilhelm@dc.rr.com>
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:42 AM
> Subject: RE: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
>
>
> I don't have the details. It was 2 or 3 laps around the lower legs up to
> about 18 inches from where the axel is fitted, I think. I don't have the
> glass gear anymore. I was the first to install a Grove gear many years ago
.
> The glass gear collapsed from excessive heat soak back from doing fast
> landing tests.
>
> Ray Pulsar III/3300
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mjb777
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 1:00 AM
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Fiberglass/ foam undercarriage age.
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> rwilhelm(at)dc.rr.com wrote:
> > There was also a mod to the Glass gear by Skystar for the Pulsar III.
> > It added carbon fiber to the gear legs to stiffen the gear legs. They
> > have a tendency to shimmy when landing faster than normal.
> >
> > Ray Pulsar III/3300
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> Ray do you have any details of this carbon fibre modification? Was it to t
he
> whole gear or specific areas?
>
> Does your Pulsar 3 have a wood or composite spar?
>
> Matt.
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> Licenced Aircraft Maintenance Engineer.
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