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1. 12:05 AM - Re: Propellor Choices (Otto Souta)
2. 09:13 AM - Re: Propellor Choices (Keith Palmer)
3. 01:54 PM - Re: Propeller Choices (Brian Anderson)
4. 02:30 PM - Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Propeller Choices (Cowan, Michael)
5. 04:43 PM - Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Propeller Choices (Cody Austin)
6. 05:00 PM - Re: Propellor Choices (barrynorman@comcast.net)
7. 07:20 PM - Re: Propellor Choices (Keith Palmer)
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor Choices |
Have look at www.Ivoprop.com I have on Rx914 Ivoprop Magnum 2 blade
high pitch electric pitch adjustable, but forget their CS box - no
good.
otto
OK NUZ-20
Pulsar III
Rotax 914
On 22 October 2012 22:58, <barrynorman@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have the GSC Inflight adjustable prop and it's been great for 7 years and
> 550+ hours. Performance is also great at a third of the cost at only 8.5
> pounds.
>
> I believe every Pulsar that has won the old races at Sun and fun had one on
> it.
>
> Does anyone have results on testing/experience between all these props?
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Bill Landucci" <bill.landucci@tds.net>
> To: "pulsar-list" <pulsar-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:50:02 AM
> Subject: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
>
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I've been flying N168TM (Pulsar III - 912ULS) for almost ten years with the
> Arplast PV50. The plane is ready for a new prop. What are folks using these
> days with Pulsars? I must admit that the simplicity of a fixed pitch prop is
> appealing, but I'm afraid I may have gotten used to the in-flight
> adjustable's ability to optimize for climb and cruise.
>
> During the last flight the pitch motor failed to adjust the prop pitch. This
> time the electric motor is spinning freely so I suspect a stripped lead
> screw. In past years I've had that happen one other time, plus two failed
> electric pitch motors. Fortuntately the failure mode is always the same -
> pitch is stuck where you last had it. So as long as pitch range is limited
> to safe flight you're okay, but it does make the cross country longer when
> top speed is 110mph due to engine rpm.
>
> If anyone has old Arplast parts I'd consider buying. But something
> completely different might be the best solution at this pobsp; -
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor Choices |
Unfortunately GSC no longer manufacture the in flight adjustable.
----- Original Message -----
From: barrynorman@comcast.net
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
I have the GSC Inflight adjustable prop and it's been great for 7
years and 550+ hours. Performance is also great at a third of the cost
at only 8.5 pounds.
I believe every Pulsar that has won the old races at Sun and fun had
one on it.
Does anyone have results on testing/experience between all these
props?
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From: "Bill Landucci" <bill.landucci@tds.net>
To: "pulsar-list" <pulsar-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:50:02 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
<bill.landucci@tds.net>
Hello All,
I've been flying N168TM (Pulsar III - 912ULS) for almost ten years
with the Arplast PV50. The plane is ready for a new prop. What are folks
using these days with Pulsars? I must admit that the simplicity of a
fixed pitch prop is appealing, but I'm afraid I may have gotten used to
the in-flight adjustable's ability to optimize for climb and cruise.
During the last flight the pitch motor failed to adjust the prop
pitch. This time the electric motor is spinning freely so I suspect a
stripped lead screw. In past years I've had that happen one other time,
plus two failed electric pitch motors. Fortuntately the failure mode is
always the same - pitch is stuck where you last had it. So as long as
pitch range is limited to safe flight you're okay, but it does make the
cross country longer when top speed is 110mph due to engine rpm.
If anyone has old Arplast parts I'd consider buying. But something
completely different might be the best solution at this pobsp;
- List Contribution Web Site -
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Hi Barry,
I received a brief reply overnight. Arplast now say that there is no
limited life.
Laetitia, whom I have spoken to briefly in the past, provided some
additional maintenance information. Unfortunately it is a .jpg copy and
in French, so it is not easy to translate automatically. As far as I can
determine there is nothing particularly new about the information, so
provided we continue to grease the bearings and lead screw it should all
be OK.
I will send the .jpg information separately. Maybe your French language
skills are better than mine, so if you see anything useful perhaps you
can advise.
Brian.
On 23/10/2012, at 8:41 AM, Barry J Edwards <barryjedwards@lineone.net>
wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> I=92d be interested to hear what Arplast have to say about maintenance
of an =91old=92 PV50. Mine is getting on for 15 years old and must have
around 600 hours on it now. No problems at all with it since all the
early problems were ironed out (mine was a very early model) but it
would be nice to hear what they have to say. The UK distributer closed
down a few years ago so there is no direct support (that I know of) in
the UK.
>
> Barry
> G-XPXP Taildragger, 1040 hrs
>
> From: Brian Anderson
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 7:56 PM
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
>
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I also have the PV50. It's done about 460 hours now [12 years old] and
I have been wondering about the life. I remember reading in some of the
early Arplast documentation [ - - very limited] that the nominal life
was 500 hours. It's a great prop, and I agree about the performance
improvements being able to adjust the pitch in flight.
>
> Some time ago I also had a motor failure. The motor just wouldn't
start and move in one direction. I talked to Arplast and they sold me an
"improved" motor. No troubles since. Each annual I open the prop hub,
clean out any hardened grease and re-grease. In fact I did that
yesterday, and checked the operation. All is OK. The new motor was
supplied with the lead screw and bearing. The old bearing was a bit
rough and lumpy too. In the meantime I had purchased a replacement
bearing locally anyhow. It is a standard [metric] size and was easy to
find.
>
> I can't imagine the lead screw stripping. It is fairly substantial.
>
> I was about to write an email to Arplast to ask about the life, and
any particular maintenance that might be necessary. If I need to think
about a new prop I would still think seriously about the Arplast again.
>
> Brian
>
>
> On 23/10/2012, at 1:50 AM, Bill Landucci <bill.landucci@tds.net>
wrote:
>
<bill.landucci@tds.net>
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I've been flying N168TM (Pulsar III - 912ULS) for almost ten years
with the Arplast PV50. The plane is ready for a new prop. What are folks
using these days with Pulsars? I must admit that the simplicity of a
fixed pitch prop is appealing, but I'm afraid I may have gotten used to
the in-flight adjustable's ability to optimize for climb and cruise.
> >
> > During the last flight the pitch motor failed to adjust the prop
pitch. This time the electric motor is spinning freely so I suspect a
stripped lead screw. In past years I've had that happen one other time,
plus two failed electric pitch motors. Fortuntately the failure mode is
always the same - pitch is stuck where you last had it. So as long as
pitch range is limited to safe flight you're okay, but it does make the
cross country longer when top speed is 110mph due to engine rpm.
> >
> > If anyone has old Arplast parts I'd consider buying. But something
completely different might be the best solution at this point.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > p; Navigator Photoshare, and p; the Web
========================<;
generous bsp;
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Choices |
Brian,
Could you copy me on your info from Arplast? I have a PV-50 as well and would
be interested in reading whatever they have to say.
Thanks,
Mike Cowan
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:54 PM
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Pulsar-List: Propeller Choices
Hi Barry,
I received a brief reply overnight. Arplast now say that there is no limited life.
Laetitia, whom I have spoken to briefly in the past, provided some additional maintenance
information. Unfortunately it is a .jpg copy and in French, so it
is not easy to translate automatically. As far as I can determine there is nothing
particularly new about the information, so provided we continue to grease
the bearings and lead screw it should all be OK.
I will send the .jpg information separately. Maybe your French language skills
are better than mine, so if you see anything useful perhaps you can advise.
Brian.
On 23/10/2012, at 8:41 AM, Barry J Edwards <barryjedwards@lineone.net<mailto:barryjedwards@lineone.net>> wrote:
Hi Brian,
I'd be interested to hear what Arplast have to say about maintenance of an 'old'
PV50. Mine is getting on for 15 years old and must have around 600 hours on
it now. No problems at all with it since all the early problems were ironed out
(mine was a very early model) but it would be nice to hear what they have to
say. The UK distributer closed down a few years ago so there is no direct support
(that I know of) in the UK.
Barry
G-XPXP Taildragger, 1040 hrs
From: Brian Anderson<mailto:briana@xtra.co.nz>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
Hi Bill,
I also have the PV50. It's done about 460 hours now [12 years old] and I have been
wondering about the life. I remember reading in some of the early Arplast
documentation [ - - very limited] that the nominal life was 500 hours. It's a
great prop, and I agree about the performance improvements being able to adjust
the pitch in flight.
Some time ago I also had a motor failure. The motor just wouldn't start and move
in one direction. I talked to Arplast and they sold me an "improved" motor.
No troubles since. Each annual I open the prop hub, clean out any hardened grease
and re-grease. In fact I did that yesterday, and checked the operation. All
is OK. The new motor was supplied with the lead screw and bearing. The old bearing
was a bit rough and lumpy too. In the meantime I had purchased a replacement
bearing locally anyhow. It is a standard [metric] size and was easy to find.
I can't imagine the lead screw stripping. It is fairly substantial.
I was about to write an email to Arplast to ask about the life, and any particular
maintenance that might be necessary. If I need to think about a new prop I
would still think seriously about the Arplast again.
Brian
On 23/10/2012, at 1:50 AM, Bill Landucci <bill.landucci@tds.net<mailto:bill.landucci@tds.net>> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I've been flying N168TM (Pulsar III - 912ULS) for almost ten years with the Arplast
PV50. The plane is ready for a new prop. What are folks using these days
with Pulsars? I must admit that the simplicity of a fixed pitch prop is appealing,
but I'm afraid I may have gotten used to the in-flight adjustable's ability
to optimize for climb and cruise.
>
> During the last flight the pitch motor failed to adjust the prop pitch. This
time the electric motor is spinning freely so I suspect a stripped lead screw.
In past years I've had that happen one other time, plus two failed electric pitch
motors. Fortuntately the failure mode is always the same - pitch is stuck
where you last had it. So as long as pitch range is limited to safe flight you're
okay, but it does make the cross country longer when top speed is 110mph
due to engine rpm.
>
> If anyone has old Arplast parts I'd consider buying. But something completely
different might be the best solution at this point.
>
> Bill
>
>
> p; Navigator Photoshare, and p; the Web ========================<;
generous bsp;
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Sent from my HTC Touch Pro2 on the Now Network from Sprint=AE.
-----Original Message-----
From: Cowan, Michael <michael.cowan@lmco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: Pulsar-List: Propeller Choices
Brian,
-
Could you copy me on your info from Arplast?- I have a PV-50 as well and
would be interested in reading whatever they have to say.
-
Thanks,
-
Mike Cowan
-
From: owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pulsar-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:54 PM
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Pulsar-List: Propeller Choices
-
Hi Barry,
-
I received a brief reply overnight. Arplast now say that there is no limite
d life.
-
Laetitia, whom I have spoken to briefly in the past, provided some addition
al maintenance information. Unfortunately it is a .jpg -copy and in Frenc
h, so it is not easy to translate automatically. As far as I can determine
there is nothing particularly new about the information, so provided we con
tinue to grease the bearings and lead screw it should all be OK.
-
I will send the .jpg information separately. Maybe your French language ski
lls are better than mine, so if you see anything useful perhaps you can adv
ise.
-
Brian.
-
-
On 23/10/2012, at 8:41 AM, Barry J Edwards <barryjedwards@lineone.net> wrot
e:
Hi Brian,
-
I=92d be interested to hear what Arplast have to say about maintenance of a
n =91old=92 PV50. Mine is getting on for 15 years old and must have around
600 hours on it now. No problems at all with it since all the early problem
s were ironed out (mine was a very early model) but it would be nice to hea
r what they have to say. The UK distributer closed down a few years ago so
there is no direct support (that I know of) in the UK.
-
Barry
G-XPXP Taildragger, 1040 hrs
-
From: Brian Anderson
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 7:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
-
Hi Bill,
I also have the PV50. It's done about 460 hours now [12 years old] and I h
ave been wondering about the life. I remember reading in some of the early
Arplast documentation [ - - very limited] that the nominal life was 500 hou
rs. It's a great prop, and I agree about the performance improvements being
able to adjust the pitch in flight.
Some time ago I also had a motor failure. The motor just wouldn't start an
d move in one direction. I talked to Arplast and they sold me an "improved"
motor. No troubles since. Each annual I open the prop hub, clean out any h
ardened grease and re-grease. In fact I did that yesterday, and checked the
operation. All is OK. The new motor was supplied with the lead screw and b
earing. The old bearing was a bit rough and lumpy too. In the meantime I ha
d purchased a replacement bearing locally anyhow. It is a standard [metric]
size and was easy to find.
I can't imagine the lead screw stripping. It is fairly substantial.
I was about to write an email to Arplast to ask about the life, and any pa
rticular maintenance that might be necessary. If I need to think about a ne
w prop I would still think seriously about the Arplast again.
Brian
On 23/10/2012, at 1:50 AM, Bill Landucci <bill.landucci@tds.net> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> I've been flying N168TM (Pulsar III - 912ULS) for almost ten years with
the Arplast PV50. The plane is ready for a new prop. What are folks using t
hese days with Pulsars? I must admit that the simplicity of a fixed pitch p
rop is appealing, but I'm afraid I may have gotten used to the in-flight ad
justable's ability to optimize for climb and cruise.
>
> During the last flight the pitch motor failed to adjust the prop pitch.
This time the electric motor is spinning freely so I suspect a stripped lea
d screw. In past years I've had that happen one other time, plus two failed
electric pitch motors. Fortuntately the failure mode is always the same -
pitch is stuck where you last had it. So as long as pitch range is limited
to safe flight you're okay, but it does make the cross country longer when
top speed is 110mph due to engine rpm.
>
> If anyone has old Arplast parts I'd consider buying. But something compl
etely different might be the best solution at this point.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> p;------ Navigator Photoshare, and p;------ the
Web =======================
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I was on thier website last night and they still advertise it. Where did yo
u hear they no longer produce it?
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
=EF=BB
Unfortunately=C2-GSC no longer manufacture the in flight adjustable.
----- Original Message -----
From: barrynorman@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
I have the GSC Inflight adjustable prop and it's been great for 7 years and
550+ hours. Performance is also great at a third of the cost at only 8.5 p
ounds.
I believe every Pulsar that has won the old races at Sun and fun had one on
it.
Does anyone have results on testing/experience between all these props?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Landucci" < bill.landucci@tds.net >
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:50:02 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
Hello All,
I've been flying N168TM (Pulsar III - 912ULS) for almost ten years with the
Arplast PV50. The plane is ready for a new prop. What are folks using thes
e days with Pulsars? I must admit that the simplicity of a fixed pitch prop
is appealing, but I'm afraid I may have gotten used to the in-flight adjus
table's ability to optimize for climb and cruise.
During the last flight the pitch motor failed to adjust the prop pitch. Thi
s time the electric motor is spinning freely so I suspect a stripped lead s
crew. In past years I've had that happen one other time, plus two failed el
ectric pitch motors. Fortuntately the failure mode is always the same - pit
ch is stuck where you last had it. So as long as pitch range is limited to
safe flight you're okay, but it does make the cross country longer when top
speed is 110mph due to engine rpm.
If anyone has old Arplast parts I'd consider buying. But something complete
ly different might be the best solution at this pobsp; =C2- =C2- =C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Propellor Choices |
I am sure they advised me by email a few years ago saying they had
discontinued them, when I was checking something, I had two in flight
adjustable GSC props, I was very surprised at the news ??.
----- Original Message -----
From: barrynorman@comcast.net
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
I was on thier website last night and they still advertise it. Where
did you hear they no longer produce it?
Barry
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----
From: "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za>
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
=EF=BB
Unfortunately GSC no longer manufacture the in flight adjustable.
----- Original Message -----
From: barrynorman@comcast.net
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
I have the GSC Inflight adjustable prop and it's been great for 7
years and 550+ hours. Performance is also great at a third of the cost
at only 8.5 pounds.
I believe every Pulsar that has won the old races at Sun and fun had
one on it.
Does anyone have results on testing/experience between all these
props?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
From: "Bill Landucci" <bill.landucci@tds.net>
To: "pulsar-list" <pulsar-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 8:50:02 AM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Propellor Choices
<bill.landucci@tds.net>
Hello All,
I've been flying N168TM (Pulsar III - 912ULS) for almost ten years
with the Arplast PV50. The plane is ready for a new prop. What are folks
using these days with Pulsars? I must admit that the simplicity of a
fixed pitch prop is appealing, but I'm afraid I may have gotten used to
the in-flight adjustable's ability to optimize for climb and cruise.
During the last flight the pitch motor failed to adjust the prop
pitch. This time the electric motor is spinning freely so I suspect a
stripped lead screw. In past years I've had that happen one other time,
plus two failed electric pitch motors. Fortuntately the failure mode is
always the same - pitch is stuck where you last had it. So as long as
pitch range is limited to safe flight you're okay, but it does make the
cross country longer when top speed is 110mph due to engine rpm.
If anyone has old Arplast parts I'd consider buying. But something
completely different might be the best solution at this pobsp;
- List Contribution Web Site -
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