Pulsar-List Digest Archive

Fri 12/28/12


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 06:29 AM - Trim options (Scott MacIntyre)
     2. 08:56 AM - Re: Trim options (GREGSMI@aol.com)
     3. 11:34 AM - Re: Trim options (Larry Wheat)
     4. 12:14 PM - Re: Low idle RPM recommendation on Rotax 912 UL? (HUGH COULTER)
     5. 12:20 PM - Re: Trim options (Brian Anderson)
     6. 02:38 PM - Re: Trim options (Larry Wheat)
     7. 02:52 PM - Re: Trim options (mattbrock777@gmail.com)
     8. 03:02 PM - Re: Trim options (Larry Wheat)
     9. 03:09 PM - Re: Trim options (mattbrock777@gmail.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:29:58 AM PST US
    From: Scott MacIntyre <scott@s-f-x.com>
    Subject: Trim options
    Hi Happy Xmas everyone. Just hoping some of you guys might have trim tabs rather than the spring bias type pitch trim system - please let me know if the details for this build/mod are available as I found a nice linear actuator but the LAA (EAA UK equivalent) are starting to pick holes in the design. I need 60mm of travel so using Ray Allen servos directly is not feasible. If anyone has aileron trim without springs that would also be of interest. Cheers Scott MacIntyre


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    Time: 08:56:03 AM PST US
    From: GREGSMI@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Trim options
    Scott, Aerodesigns did not like trim servos because of the added weight to the control surface. They were very concerned about flutter. Greg In a message dated 12/28/2012 8:30:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott@s-f-x.com writes: Hi Happy Xmas everyone. Just hoping some of you guys might have trim tabs rather than the spring bias type pitch trim system - please let me know if the details for this build/mod are available as I found a nice linear actuator but the LAA (EAA UK equivalent) are starting to pick holes in the design. I need 60mm of travel so using Ray Allen servos directly is not feasible. If anyone has aileron trim without springs that would also be of interest. Cheers Scott MacIntyre (http://www.aeroelectric.com/) (http://www.buildersbooks.com/) (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List)


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    Time: 11:34:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trim options
    From: Larry Wheat <lwheat2083@gmail.com>
    I have electric trims on my Pulsar III if you are interested. Have pics as well. Cheers, Larry N852LW On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Scott MacIntyre <scott@s-f-x.com> wrote: > Hi > > Happy Xmas everyone. > > Just hoping some of you guys might have trim tabs rather than the spring > bias type pitch trim system - please let me know if the details for this > build/mod are available as I found a nice linear actuator but the LAA (EAA > UK equivalent) are starting to pick holes in the design. I need 60mm of > travel so using Ray Allen servos directly is not feasible. If anyone has > aileron trim without springs that would also be of interest. > > Cheers > > Scott MacIntyre > > > * > > * > > -- Larry Wheat


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    Time: 12:14:04 PM PST US
    From: "HUGH COULTER" <ccoulter@wavecable.com>
    Subject: Re: Low idle RPM recommendation on Rotax 912 UL?
    About 1800 should be OK Clarke On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:24:55 -0800 "triumphrider" <investmentsalesconsultant@gmail.com> wrote: ><investmentsalesconsultant@gmail.com> > > How low should the low idle speed be adjusted for on the >Rotax 912 UL? > I had someone help with it and he said 1400 rpm and if I >pull the throttle that low, the engine shutters. I >usually taxi at around 1800 RPMs. With the reduction gear >of the Rotax, perhaps 1400 rpm idle is too low? > > Engine seems dialed in at cruise and acceleration, but a >little rough at low idle, as if the prop is not balanced. >I did a few small carbon fiber prop ding repairs and was >careful not to overweight one side. Perhaps, I did it >inadvertently? It's a Prince P-Tip. Used to purr like a >kitten. As the Chinese say, it it's not broken don't fix >it? It was adjusted at the conditional inspection. Is >protection too much to expect from a 850 hr. engine? Am I >asking too much? > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=390994#390994 > > > > > > > >Admin. >Un/Subscription, >Forums! > > >


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    Time: 12:20:35 PM PST US
    From: Brian Anderson <briana@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Trim options
    Scott, Scott Trimming the position of the centre point of the pitch springs works just fine. Many of us use a lever arrangement with the servo connected at about the mid point of the lever, giving 2x the travel to the connection point of the springs. Also the very light springs used on some of the aileron trim systems is not even noticeable, in terms of the stick force to deflect the ailerons in flight. My system has the servo connected to a small pulley, and via a cable to the spring on one side only. The 2x movement gain works out at exactly the right amount of trim change to compensate for passenger and fuel loads. Brian On 29/12/2012, at 3:29 AM, Scott MacIntyre <scott@s-f-x.com> wrote: > Hi > > Happy Xmas everyone. > > Just hoping some of you guys might have trim tabs rather than the spring bias type pitch trim system - please let me know if the details for this build/mod are available as I found a nice linear actuator but the LAA (EAA UK equivalent) are starting to pick holes in the design. I need 60mm of travel so using Ray Allen servos directly is not feasible. If anyone has aileron trim without springs that would also be of interest. > > Cheers > > Scott MacIntyre > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:38:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trim options
    From: Larry Wheat <lwheat2083@gmail.com>
    I used a linear actuator, very small with 144 in oz of force. Works very well. If you are interested I have picks and a supplier that I would be glad to forward to you. Cheers, Larry N852LW On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Scott MacIntyre <scott@s-f-x.com> wrote: > Hi > > Happy Xmas everyone. > > Just hoping some of you guys might have trim tabs rather than the spring > bias type pitch trim system - please let me know if the details for this > build/mod are available as I found a nice linear actuator but the LAA (EAA > UK equivalent) are starting to pick holes in the design. I need 60mm of > travel so using Ray Allen servos directly is not feasible. If anyone has > aileron trim without springs that would also be of interest. > > Cheers > > Scott MacIntyre > > > * > > * > > -- Larry Wheat


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    Time: 02:52:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trim options
    From: mattbrock777@gmail.com
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    Time: 03:02:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trim options
    From: Larry Wheat <lwheat2083@gmail.com>
    I will try I am haaving nothing but problems with Windows 8, really sucks. Cheers On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:50 PM, <mattbrock777@gmail.com> wrote: > ** > Any chance you could post the details on the list larry? > > Thanks, > > Matt. > > Empower your Business with BlackBerry=AE and Mobile Solutions from Etisal at > ------------------------------ > *From: * Larry Wheat <lwheat2083@gmail.com> > *Sender: * owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com > *Date: *Fri, 28 Dec 2012 14:37:10 -0800 > *To: *<pulsar-list@matronics.com> > *ReplyTo: * pulsar-list@matronics.com > *Subject: *Re: Pulsar-List: Trim options > > I used a linear actuator, very small with 144 in oz of force. Works very > we= ll. If you are interested I have picks and a supplier that I would be > glad = to forward to you. Cheers, Larry N852LW > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 6:29 AM, Scott MacIntyre <scott@s-f-x.com>**wrote : > > Hi > > Happy Xmas everyo= ne. > > Just hoping some of you guys might have trim t= abs rather than the spr ing > bias type pitch trim system - please let me know= if the details for th is > build/mod are available as I found a nice linear a= ctuator but the LAA > (EAA UK equivalent) are starting to pick holes in the d= esign. I need 60mm > of travel so using Ray Allen servos directly is not feas= ible. If anyo ne > has aileron trim without springs that would also be of inte= rest. > > Cheers > > Scott MacIntyre > > > ** > > > * > > _blank">www.aeroelectric.com > .com" target=3D"_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > =3D"_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > arget=3D"_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pulsar-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > * > > > **-- > Larry Wheat > > * > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D > * > > -- Larry Wheat


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    Time: 03:09:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Trim options
    From: mattbrock777@gmail.com
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