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1. 04:24 AM - Gross Take off Weight (Mark Fox)
2. 04:36 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Scott - Special Effects Armourer)
3. 05:00 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Keith Palmer)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Keith Palmer)
5. 06:41 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Scott - Special Effects Armourer)
6. 07:00 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Keith Palmer)
7. 08:08 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Simon)
8. 10:13 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (HUGH COULTER)
9. 11:45 AM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Solly Melyon)
10. 12:14 PM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Larry Eubanks)
11. 12:31 PM - Re: Gross Take off Weight (Larry Eubanks)
12. 03:21 PM - Max Gross (Bernard Wilder)
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| Subject: | Gross Take off Weight |
Guys,
I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember the
result and general consensus in the end.
My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060 pounds.
There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to a higher
number.
Just curious if anyone knows.
I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few pounds :)
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
I am just increasing my rating for more max weight. It was 960lbs if your ki
t was 249 or less, if a higher number it would be 1060lbs. It seems a compos
ite spar was used on later models. Source - UK LAA TADS for Pulsar XP.
Hope that helps.
Scott MacIntyre
UK +44 7860 208432
US +1 (818) 397 0666
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On 29 Aug 2013, at 12:21, Mark Fox <saafbusiness@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember the r
esult and general consensus in the end.
>
> My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060 pounds. T
here was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to a higher num
ber.
>
> Just curious if anyone knows.
>
> I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few pounds :
)
>
> Thanks
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
The XP is definitely 1060 lb the III is 1200lb the II I'm not sure ?
K'd
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Fox
To: Pulsar-List@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:21 PM
Subject: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
Guys,
I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember
the result and general consensus in the end.
My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060
pounds. There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to
a higher number.
Just curious if anyone knows.
I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few
pounds :)
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
Scott,
MAUW - Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar - 960lb
- Composite Spars on XP 1060lb - Don't automatically go by serial
numbers it is the construction that counts & what was included in that
KIT.
K'd
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
I am just increasing my rating for more max weight. It was 960lbs if
your kit was 249 or less, if a higher number it would be 1060lbs. It
seems a composite spar was used on later models. Source - UK LAA TADS
for Pulsar XP.
Hope that helps.
Scott MacIntyre
UK +44 7860 208432
US +1 (818) 397 0666
scott@s-f-x.com
On 29 Aug 2013, at 12:21, Mark Fox <saafbusiness@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not
remember the result and general consensus in the end.
My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060
pounds. There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to
a higher number.
Just curious if anyone knows.
I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few
pounds :)
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
Yes, common sense prevails - I have a composite spar but it seems the guy th
at made the kit went for the lower weight just because he wasn't aware of th
e later spec.
Thanks for helping make this point clearer.
Scott MacIntyre
On 29 Aug 2013, at 14:18, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> wrote:
> Scott,
> MAUW - Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar - 960lb -
Composite Spars on XP 1060lb - Don't automatically go by serial numbers i
t is the construction that counts & what was included in that KIT.
>
> K'd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer
> To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
>
> I am just increasing my rating for more max weight. It was 960lbs if your k
it was 249 or less, if a higher number it would be 1060lbs. It seems a compo
site spar was used on later models. Source - UK LAA TADS for Pulsar XP.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Scott MacIntyre
>
> UK +44 7860 208432
> US +1 (818) 397 0666
> scott@s-f-x.com
>
> On 29 Aug 2013, at 12:21, Mark Fox <saafbusiness@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guys,
>>
>> I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember the
result and general consensus in the end.
>>
>> My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060 pounds.
There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to a higher n
umber.
>>
>> Just curious if anyone knows.
>>
>> I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few pounds
:)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
What do your manuals say ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
Yes, common sense prevails - I have a composite spar but it seems the
guy that made the kit went for the lower weight just because he wasn't
aware of the later spec.
Thanks for helping make this point clearer.
Scott MacIntyre
On 29 Aug 2013, at 14:18, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> wrote:
Scott,
MAUW - Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar -
960lb - Composite Spars on XP 1060lb - Don't automatically go by
serial numbers it is the construction that counts & what was included in
that KIT.
K'd
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
I am just increasing my rating for more max weight. It was 960lbs
if your kit was 249 or less, if a higher number it would be 1060lbs. It
seems a composite spar was used on later models. Source - UK LAA TADS
for Pulsar XP.
Hope that helps.
Scott MacIntyre
UK +44 7860 208432
US +1 (818) 397 0666
scott@s-f-x.com
On 29 Aug 2013, at 12:21, Mark Fox <saafbusiness@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not
remember the result and general consensus in the end.
My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of
1060 pounds. There was a lot of discussion about that number being
changed to a higher number.
Just curious if anyone knows.
I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a
few pounds :)
Thanks
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| Subject: | Gross Take off Weight |
Hi Scott,
At the time the kit was built, they had just introduced the composite
spar and Aero Designs had updated their brochure for the XP - (960
crossed out and 1060 written in biro!)
The PFA at the time had not approved this and so to save time getting
into the air, Malcolm went with the original 960. It should only be a
formality to up-rate the figure =93 He and I just never got around
to it! It definitely has the composite spar and also the slightly bigger
rudder =93 maybe XPs had this.
Looking forward to seeing her airborne again soon J
Simon.
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[mailto:owner-pulsar-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott -
Special Effects Armourer
Sent: 29 August 2013 14:40
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
Yes, common sense prevails - I have a composite spar but it seems the
guy that made the kit went for the lower weight just because he wasn't
aware of the later spec.
Thanks for helping make this point clearer.
Scott MacIntyre
On 29 Aug 2013, at 14:18, "Keith Palmer" <kdpalmer@mweb.co.za> wrote:
Scott,
MAUW - Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar - 960lb
- Composite Spars on XP 1060lb - Don't automatically go by serial
numbers it is the construction that counts & what was included in that
KIT.
K'd
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer <mailto:scott@s-f-x.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
I am just increasing my rating for more max weight. It was 960lbs if
your kit was 249 or less, if a higher number it would be 1060lbs. It
seems a composite spar was used on later models. Source - UK LAA TADS
for Pulsar XP.
Hope that helps.
Scott MacIntyre
UK +44 7860 208432
US +1 (818) 397 0666
scott@s-f-x.com
On 29 Aug 2013, at 12:21, Mark Fox <saafbusiness@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember
the result and general consensus in the end.
My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060
pounds. There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to
a higher number.
Just curious if anyone knows.
I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few
pounds :)
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
No, the weight was not increased. The Series II had a
higher gross as did the III.
Clarke
On Thu, 29 Aug 2013 07:21:44 -0400
Mark Fox <saafbusiness@gmail.com> wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can
>not remember the
> result and general consensus in the end.
>
> My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross
>weight of 1060 pounds.
> There was a lot of discussion about that number being
>changed to a higher
> number.
>
> Just curious if anyone knows.
>
> I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they
>put on a few pounds :)
>
> Thanks
>
> --
>
> [image: Mark L. Fox Vice President
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
Hi Guys,=0AThe II and the III are-the same airplane structurally, both ha
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I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not remember the
=0A> result and general consensus in the end.=0A> =0A> My 1996 Pulsar XP fr
om Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060 pounds.=0A> There was a lot o
f discussion about that number being changed to a higher=0A> number.=0A>
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
I have a sales brochure that is pre XP and was intended for the 582
version only and it shows a fiberglass spar, wood skins and a gross
weight of 900 pounds. Unfortunately the brochure is not dated but was
fairly expensive to produce as it is done similar to a magazine with
about 12 pages.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Palmer
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
Scott,
MAUW - Wooden Spars with Capping to the end of the Spar - 960lb
- Composite Spars on XP 1060lb - Don't automatically go by serial
numbers it is the construction that counts & what was included in that
KIT.
K'd
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott - Special Effects Armourer
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
I am just increasing my rating for more max weight. It was 960lbs if
your kit was 249 or less, if a higher number it would be 1060lbs. It
seems a composite spar was used on later models. Source - UK LAA TADS
for Pulsar XP.
Hope that helps.
Scott MacIntyre
UK +44 7860 208432
US +1 (818) 397 0666
scott@s-f-x.com
On 29 Aug 2013, at 12:21, Mark Fox <saafbusiness@gmail.com> wrote:
Guys,
I know this is a 10+ year old discussion item, but I can not
remember the result and general consensus in the end.
My 1996 Pulsar XP from Aerodesigns had a max gross weight of 1060
pounds. There was a lot of discussion about that number being changed to
a higher number.
Just curious if anyone knows.
I ask because after 9 months or reworking wings, they put on a few
pounds :)
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Gross Take off Weight |
For what it's worth I have another later sales brochure created after
the first 912 version was built and it has a picture of the ill fated
N912XP on one side. It shows a gross weight for the 582 Pulsar as 1000
pounds and the Pulsar XP(912) as 1060. I believe the difference here is
that this was after the fiberglass skins were added to both models.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Eubanks
To: pulsar-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: Pulsar-List: Gross Take off Weight
I have a sales brochure that is pre XP and was intended for the 582
version only and it shows a fiberglass spar, wood skins and a gross
weight of 900 pounds. Unfortunately the brochure is not dated but was
fairly expensive to produce as it is done similar to a magazine with
about 12 pages.
Larry
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I know someone who routinely flew his XP at 1,200 lbs.
Bernie Wilder
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