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Subject: | Re: Pulsar-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 04/28/16 |
I'm in Santorini, Greece so comment is limited.
Elongation of bolt material is primary indicator of energy absorbtion capability.
Grade 8 has around 12% which is plenty for gear application and won't fracture
without obvious deformation. Stiffness as mentioned by Tim is NOT related
to strength. It is function of modulus which is same for the steel alloy regardless
of heat treat/strength.
The calculated stress level that myself and Terry Armstrong computed is at the
limit of the grade 5 yield strength so it will deform at any substantial loading.
If you install a higher strength bolt than Grade 8, good chance to transfer failure
to another part of assy like fork. My technical recommendation is that the
Grade 8 bolt works well and provides sufficient margin to show any overload
deformation. I just disassembled mine before I left to check my Grade 8 bolt and
all was well even after bumpy dry lake landings over 3 yrs.
Bob H
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> 1. 02:22 PM - Re: Modified Nose Wheel Upgrade (Eclat2)
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>Subject: Pulsar-List: Re: Modified Nose Wheel Upgrade
>From: "Eclat2" <TSEngel@comcast.net>
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>Common 'graded' hardware, like Grade 5 & 8, is pretty ordinary stuff available
>at most hardware stores. It's not bleeding edge technology. Grade 8 is stronger
>(harder / stiffer) than Grade 5, but it's not really 'strong' in the overall
>spectrum of high strength hardware. If you want strong, then don't buy
>from your local hardware store.
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>The major difference between Grades 5 & 8 is hardness, and stiffness comes along
>with that. When overstressed, Grade 5 will bend, but it won't break and fall
>off. Ronko's nose wheel assembly bent, but it didn't fall off, and his last
>landing was an uneventful one... which is a good thing in many ways.
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>Had he used a Grade 8, the bolt probably wouldn't have bent when the Grade 5 one
>did. But if it ever did receive a load that caused to to fail, it might have
>broken and parts might have fallen off. Personally, I'd rather have a crooked
>wheel than no wheel.
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>The better solution than 'Graded' hardware would be to use a truly high-strength
>bolt, available from Aircraft Spruce, Leaf, Earl's, etc. The downside there
>is that if everything else is built on the aircraft ragged edge of lightness,
>then the failure point would move on up into the landing gear leg somewhere.
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>Personally, I like the idea of having something that gives without breaking, like
>the Grade 5 bolt. Couple that with regular inspections, and the chances of
>an actual 'break' failure should be minimized. Replacing a bolt once in a
>while isn't a hardship if it also means nothing falls of in flight, and that I
>can count on having landing gear when I touch down.
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>I'm also into motorsports, and use Grade 5 suspension bolts. If a Grade 5 bends
>too easily, I go to a larger Grade 5. But I don't go to something brittle
>that might actually 'break' as a failure mode, and pitch me off into the weeds.
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>Just my opinion...
>Tim
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