Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:51 AM - 48 states report (Wheeler North)
2. 01:14 AM - trio report (Wheeler North)
3. 04:07 AM - Re: Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER RELATED (alan@reichertech.com)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 (Glen Matejcek)
5. 06:42 AM - Pix of UFO following me!! (Scott Bilinski)
6. 06:46 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 (Glen Matejcek)
7. 06:51 AM - TruTrak (Gerald McKibben)
8. 06:55 AM - Re: trio report (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
9. 07:01 AM - Re: Fuel Valve (DAVID REEL)
10. 08:15 AM - Re: Pix of UFO following me!! (Chris W)
11. 08:37 AM - Re: trio report (Brian Denk)
12. 08:41 AM - Re: Pix of UFO following me!! (Brian Denk)
13. 08:52 AM - Re: Pix of UFO following me!! (Bruce Gray)
14. 09:03 AM - Flying to SoCal (Michael Robbins)
15. 10:04 AM - Trio EZ Pilot (Tommy Walker)
16. 11:57 AM - Re: Trio EZ Pilot (Ted)
17. 12:25 PM - Re: Fuel Valve (Shemp)
18. 04:52 PM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 (Dj Merrill)
19. 04:58 PM - Re: TruTrak (Charles Rowbotham)
20. 05:08 PM - Air Nibbler vs Air Shears (Chris W)
21. 05:19 PM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 (Ron Walker)
22. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 (Dj Merrill)
23. 05:44 PM - Re: Air Nibbler vs Air Shears 0.3 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From: contains numbers mixed in with letters (Kathleen (rv7))
24. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 (JOHN STARN)
25. 07:38 PM - Re: Fuel Valve (Emrath)
26. 08:23 PM - Re: Air Nibbler vs Air Shears 0.3 (RV_8 Pilot)
27. 09:32 PM - Nose gear leg nut (Jeff Orear)
28. 10:50 PM - Re: Fuel Valve (Stan Jones)
29. 10:56 PM - Re: Pix of UFO following me!! (Stan Jones)
30. 10:59 PM - Re: Nose gear leg nut (Vanremog@aol.com)
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Since I am on the digest I'll respond in mass,
N959AA Way worn white with green and sliver stripe.
Florida, gosh I hope I don't have to go that far south. Florida is one of
those states like alaska, one saves it for an entire trip by itself. But I
would love to visit if I had more time between NWEAA and OSH.
NH and MO, wilco, will let you know as things get closer and the WX is more
known as my rule of fun is the more folks I get to visit with and meet, the
more fun the trip becomes.
ttfn
W
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:00 AM - Arlington (Wheeler North)
2. 04:31 AM - Re: 48 States Report (Jerry Springer)
3. 04:48 AM - Re: Care of plexiglass (Jerry Calvert)
4. 04:59 AM - Van's Capacitive Fuel level sensors (Trampas)
5. 05:55 AM - Re: Van's Capacitive Fuel level sensors (Dan
Checkoway)
6. 06:26 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 06/29/04 (Glen
Matejcek)
7. 07:28 AM - Re: 48 States Report (Charlie Kuss)
8. 08:23 AM - Re: 48 States Report (Dj Merrill)
9. 08:37 AM - Re: Van's Capacitive Fuel level sensors (Terry
Watson)
10. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 06/29/04 (Dj
Merrill)
11. 12:49 PM - Re: 48 States Report (Lwfeatherston@aol.com)
12. 02:57 PM - Fuel Valve (Stan J. Jones)
13. 03:22 PM - Re: Fuel Valve (Konrad Werner)
14. 03:46 PM - Re: Fuel Valve (Stein Bruch)
15. 06:22 PM - Re: ignition problem (Dave Hyde)
16. 06:33 PM - Re: Re: ignition problem (JusCash@aol.com)
17. 06:38 PM - Re: Fuel Valve (Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta))
18. 07:14 PM - Re:Fuel Valve (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
19. 07:30 PM - Re: Trutrack alt hold (N223RV@aol.com)
20. 08:34 PM - Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER RELATED
(Tim Bryan)
21. 08:34 PM - Re: Fuel Valve (Skylor Piper)
22. 08:48 PM - Re: Re:Fuel Valve (Stein Bruch)
23. 09:14 PM - Re: Care of plexiglass (Eustace Bowhay)
24. 09:23 PM - Re: Care of plexiglass (Karie Daniel)
25. 09:44 PM - Re: Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER
RELATED (Brian Kraut)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 12:00:02 AM PST US
From: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
"'owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com '"@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Arlington
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Check the airshow times,
arriving at 1300 local may be cause for a long delay getting in.
arrive via notam, be prepared for tower to be non-responsive, ie
acknowledging your reporting, but not giving much sequencing response.
As it
gets busy they get more active in providing direction.
W
do not archive
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 04:31:02 AM PST US
From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: 48 States Report
--> RV-List message posted by: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@earthlink.net>
Wheeler North wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
>Folks,
>
>you are on this distribution list because I thought you might like to
>recieve updates from me on the trip I am about to start.
>
>If you do not wish to recieve these please pop me a note and I'll drop
you
>off the list.
>
>The current plan has me at T minus 3 days, with launch on this Friday
>morning.
>
>First stop is Minden NV, then Scapoose Oregon. If time permits I will
>continue on to Arlington WA that day, or else I'll pop over to Vernonia
for
>the night. I'm supposed to be on the setup crew for the NWEAA flyin
from
>7.3-7.11, I'll be in that area for the week so would love to drop by
and
>visit if any of you local to the area are going to be around.
>
>
>
Wheeler what is the N# of your airplane so we can look you up at
Arlington?
Jerry Springer ( N906GS)
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 04:48:09 AM PST US
From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
Is this the Meguiars Mirror Glaze or another brand?
Jerry Calvert
Edmond Ok
RV6 N296JC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Subject: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay"
<ebowhay@jetstream.net>
>
> What has worked best for me over the years is the following.
>
> Use only flannel cloth ( ripped old bed sheet into sixteen inch
squares)
then store them in a plastic bag.
>
> If wind screen (canopy) is dusty (stored for awhile) rinse off with
water
without touching the plexi by (spraying or pouring water over it. Then
with
a piece of clean flannel soaked in slightly soapy water and partially
wrung
out, take it by two corners and drag it full width over the plexi
without
any pressure on it, turn it over and do it a second time then put the
flannel in a plastic bag to washing.
>
> If there are bugs take another clean cloth soaked in the soapy water
gently clean them off. Put this cloth in the bag for washing.
>
> I have used Mirror Glaze for around forty years and would use nothing
else, recently a friend asked me to try some Plexus and found it to be
a
good product. Again taking another clean cloth spray on the cleaner and
wipe
dry, another cloth for the laundry bag.
>
> This may sound a bit like over- kill but it is the only way I could be
sure of not winding up with some scratches.
>
> I have flown many aircraft that had scratched plexi and found that by
using Mirror Glaze all but the worst scratches would eventually
disappear.
>
> If the canopy is new and scratch free the Plexus will sure do the job
and
is quicker to use.
>
> Anyway the whole idea is prevent getting any scratches in the first
place
and the only way I have been able to do that is not rub with any gritty
stuff on the plexi.
>
> Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay, B.C.
>
> Eustace Bowhay
>
>
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 04:59:36 AM PST US
From: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: Van's Capacitive Fuel level sensors
--> RV-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
Does anyone know of a company which sells an adapter circuit for the
Van's
capacitive fuel level sensors? For my application it does not matter if
the
sensor outputs a frequency or a voltage.
Thanks
Trampas
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 05:55:16 AM PST US
From: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's Capacitive Fuel level sensors
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
You might consider calling Advanced Control Systems
(http://www.advanced-control-systems.com). I doubt they'd distribute
just
the adapters if you're not buying the ACS2002 system.
The adapters they use come from Princeton Electronics. You can contact
Todd
at Princeton at 616-281-5193.
Best of luck,
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: Van's Capacitive Fuel level sensors
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
>
> Does anyone know of a company which sells an adapter circuit for the
Van's
> capacitive fuel level sensors? For my application it does not matter
if
the
> sensor outputs a frequency or a voltage.
>
> Thanks
> Trampas
>
>
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 06:26:27 AM PST US
From: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: RE: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 06/29/04
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>Glen, I and 2 of my friends want to thank you for taking our share of
>the bird strikes. Could you be so kind as to also do our share of the
>engine outs too? :-)
Hmmm... You AND two friends? That puts me one behind... No promises,
but
I'll see what I can do...
I do have about 1,300 forced landings I could share with you ; )
Do not archive
________________________________ Message 7
_____________________________________
Time: 07:28:56 AM PST US
From: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: 48 States Report
--> RV-List message posted by: Charlie Kuss <chaztuna@adelphia.net>
Wheeler,
How far down the Florida peninsula do you plan to go? I'm in Boca
Raton
(in Palm Beach County on the SE coast) Let me know if you'll be in the
area.
Charlie Kuss
>--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
>
>Folks,
>
>you are on this distribution list because I thought you might like to
>recieve updates from me on the trip I am about to start.
>
>If you do not wish to recieve these please pop me a note and I'll drop
you
>off the list.
>
>The current plan has me at T minus 3 days, with launch on this Friday
>morning.
>
>First stop is Minden NV, then Scapoose Oregon. If time permits I will
>continue on to Arlington WA that day, or else I'll pop over to Vernonia
for
>the night. I'm supposed to be on the setup crew for the NWEAA flyin
from
>7.3-7.11, I'll be in that area for the week so would love to drop by
and
>visit if any of you local to the area are going to be around.
>
>After the flyin the plan is to head east until Maine goes by, then
south
>until Florida appears, then back west until Texas, then up the
Mississippi
>to Oshkosh for the big flyin, and then zigzag back to San Diego in
early
>August, thereby landing in every state in the lower 48.
>
>Obviously the weather will help plan my route so it isn't too firm
right
>now. But my plan is to post an update daily, as time permits.
>
>Again, if this is too much email for you, reply and I'll take you out
of the
>loop, as I am certainly sensitive to too much email. I won''t be
posting
>pictures other than to a website, if I get a land line connection as
the
>cell connection is somewhat too slow for picture uploads.
>
>I'll probably send the next note out Thursday night just before I get
on the
>road.
>
>ta ta for now
>
>Wheeler
>
>
________________________________ Message 8
_____________________________________
Time: 08:23:03 AM PST US
From: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: RV-List: 48 States Report
--> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Wheeler North wrote:
> After the flyin the plan is to head east until Maine goes by, then
south
Wave when you go over NH! :-)
-Dj
________________________________ Message 9
_____________________________________
Time: 08:37:27 AM PST US
From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Van's Capacitive Fuel level sensors
--> RV-List message posted by: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
Blue Mountain Avionics (bluemountainavionics.com) has one to adapt Van's
sensors to their EFIS/one.
Terry
--> RV-List message posted by: "Trampas" <tstern@nc.rr.com>
Does anyone know of a company which sells an adapter circuit for the
Van's
capacitive fuel level sensors? For my application it does not matter if
the
sensor outputs a frequency or a voltage.
Thanks
Trampas
________________________________ Message 10
____________________________________
Time: 09:00:28 AM PST US
From: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: Re: RV-List: RE: RV-List Digest: 34 Msgs - 06/29/04
--> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Glen Matejcek wrote:
> I do have about 1,300 forced landings I could share with you ; )
> Do not archive
Glider pilot? ;-)
-Dj
________________________________ Message 11
____________________________________
Time: 12:49:38 PM PST US
From: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: 48 States Report
--> RV-List message posted by: Lwfeatherston@aol.com
Hi Wheeler, I think I am on your route. I would love to host you in
Southwest Missouri as you pass through. See if Mt Vernon, MO, between
Joplin,
and
Springfield, is on your Texas to OSH route. I have AvGas 100LL, and
can
hangar you, and feed you. Give me an e-mail with your estimated ETA.
Les
Featherston 417-466-4663
________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
Time: 02:57:11 PM PST US
From: "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
I am not at all familiar with injected motors. Is there a fuel return
line
from the motor on an IO 360, and do I need to order one of those fancy
fuel
valves that Vans sells, ($350), in order to return surplus fuel to the
tank,
and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for that purpose.
Stan Jones. N.Z.
________________________________ Message 13
____________________________________
Time: 03:22:17 PM PST US
From: "Konrad Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
>I am not at all familiar with injected motors.
>Is there a fuel return line from the motor on an IO 360,
No, not on a Lycoming
>. . . and do I need to order one of those fancy fuel valves that Vans
sells, ($350),
No, standard fuel valve is fine.
>. . . in order to return surplus fuel to the tank,
No
>. . . and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for that purpose.
No
>Stan Jones. N.Z.
Konrad
do not archive
________________________________ Message 14
____________________________________
Time: 03:46:18 PM PST US
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Nope. Plumbing is similar to the O engines, but the Fuel pressure is
much
higher, necessitating a higher pressure boost pump and engine driven
pump.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Stan J. Jones
Subject: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
I am not at all familiar with injected motors. Is there a fuel return
line
from the motor on an IO 360, and do I need to order one of those fancy
fuel
valves that Vans sells, ($350), in order to return surplus fuel to the
tank,
and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for that purpose.
Stan Jones. N.Z.
________________________________ Message 15
____________________________________
Time: 06:22:23 PM PST US
From: "Dave Hyde" <nauga@brick.net>
Subject: RV-List: re: ignition problem
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Hyde" <nauga@brick.net>
Problem solved. Steve Carter at Unison
arranged for me to pick up a new mag at
a nearby parts shop. Installed it this evening
and the engine runs great. I'd love to know what
was going on in there, but the mag is still under
warranty so I'm not going to crack the case.
Troubleshooting was extremely frustrating,
but Unison bent over backwards to help, and
as far as I'm concerned more than made up for
the troubles.
Dave Hyde
nauga@brick.net
RV-4 in flight test, EAA tech counselor
________________________________ Message 16
____________________________________
Time: 06:33:14 PM PST US
From: JusCash@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: re: ignition problem
--> RV-List message posted by: JusCash@aol.com
There is a really good article in the July 2004 Aviation Consumer about
Slick
and Bendix magnetos.
Cash Copeland
In a message dated 6/30/2004 6:23:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nauga@brick.net writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dave Hyde" <nauga@brick.net>
Problem solved. Steve Carter at Unison
arranged for me to pick up a new mag at
a nearby parts shop. Installed it this evening
and the engine runs great. I'd love to know what
was going on in there, but the mag is still under
warranty so I'm not going to crack the case.
Troubleshooting was extremely frustrating,
but Unison bent over backwards to help, and
as far as I'm concerned more than made up for
the troubles.
Dave Hyde
nauga@brick.net
RV-4 in flight test, EAA tech counselor
________________________________ Message 17
____________________________________
Time: 06:38:09 PM PST US
Subject: RE: RV-List: Fuel Valve
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)"
<mstewart@iss.net>
And to add to the other 2 responses which are correct, the return you
are referring to is a special return line used in the Airflow
Performance FI system specifically. It is not required, even on theirs.
Mike
AFP system.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stan J. Jones
Subject: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
I am not at all familiar with injected motors. Is there a fuel return
line
from the motor on an IO 360, and do I need to order one of those fancy
fuel
valves that Vans sells, ($350), in order to return surplus fuel to the
tank,
and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for that purpose.
Stan Jones. N.Z.
==
==
==
==
________________________________ Message 18
____________________________________
Time: 07:14:22 PM PST US
From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Re:Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
You will need a fuel return line to your fuel tank. Mine runs to the
left
tank. This means that I MUST use fuel from the left tank first. If I
fail to
select the left tank, when both are full, I will soon overflow the left
tank
and fuel will be discharged through the left vent line.
I'm not familiar with the expensive valve from Vans but it probably
just
shifts the return line to flow into the same tank you are drawing from.
Hope this helps,
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
________________________________ Message 19
____________________________________
Time: 07:30:34 PM PST US
From: N223RV@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Trutrack alt hold
--> RV-List message posted by: N223RV@aol.com
I couldn't agree with you more. I have the same set up and have had no
issues for about100 hours. In fact, if I could only purchase one for
the RV, I'd
pick the altitude hold over the wings leveler!
-Mike Kraus
N223RV RV-4 Flying
N213RV RV-10 Empennage complete, working on Tailcone
________________________________ Message 20
____________________________________
Time: 08:34:40 PM PST US
From: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER RELATED
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan"
<rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
Listers,
I have been trying to find an aircraft search based on performance
unsuccessfully. Does anybody know of a site where one could find say
all
comparable aircraft?
200 MPH cruise + or -
4 place
single engine
etc.
Just wondering from what pool of aircraft have comparable performance
figures.
Thanks for any help.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 N616TB
Do Not Archive this.
________________________________ Message 21
____________________________________
Time: 08:34:40 PM PST US
From: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
So to add to all of the different responses...
On my RV-8 drawings for the fuel injected plumbing
routing, Van's shows a return line running from the
Airflow Performance boost bump back to a tee that is
mounted on the fuel valve outlet port. This way, the
return doesn't have to be run all the way back to the
tank and you don't need the expensive valve.
Skylor
RV-8 QB Under Construction
N808SJ Reserved
--- "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan J. Jones"
> <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
>
> I am not at all familiar with injected motors. Is
> there a fuel return line
> from the motor on an IO 360, and do I need to order
> one of those fancy fuel
> valves that Vans sells, ($350), in order to return
> surplus fuel to the tank,
> and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for
> that purpose.
> Stan Jones. N.Z.
>
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________________________________ Message 22
____________________________________
Time: 08:48:05 PM PST US
From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Re:Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
Hi Bob,
What fuel injection system are you using??
Neither the Bendix RSA nor the Airflow Performance system mandates the
use
of a fuel return line. The only case I'm aware of needing a return
line is
if using a "purge valve", which in itself is also not a necessity on
either
system. There are a lot of both Bendix & AFP systems flying without a
return type line, nor a purge valve. That being said, if one plans to
use a
purge valve, then of course some sort of return line would be necessary.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
RV6's, Minneapolis
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Oldsfolks@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: Re:Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
You will need a fuel return line to your fuel tank. Mine runs to the
left
tank. This means that I MUST use fuel from the left tank first. If I
fail
to
select the left tank, when both are full, I will soon overflow the left
tank
and fuel will be discharged through the left vent line.
I'm not familiar with the expensive valve from Vans but it probably
just
shifts the return line to flow into the same tank you are drawing from.
Hope this helps,
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
________________________________ Message 23
____________________________________
Time: 09:14:49 PM PST US
From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
--> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Hi Jerry:
Yes it is Meguiars, they have three products #10-17and18. The one I use
is
#10. However # 17 would probably be better if there are any scratches.
Eustace
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
>
> Is this the Meguiars Mirror Glaze or another brand?
>
> Jerry Calvert
> Edmond Ok
> RV6 N296JC
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
> To: "rv list" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay"
<ebowhay@jetstream.net>
> >
> > What has worked best for me over the years is the following.
> >
> > Use only flannel cloth ( ripped old bed sheet into sixteen inch
squares)
> then store them in a plastic bag.
> >
> > If wind screen (canopy) is dusty (stored for awhile) rinse off with
water
> without touching the plexi by (spraying or pouring water over it. Then
with
> a piece of clean flannel soaked in slightly soapy water and partially
wrung
> out, take it by two corners and drag it full width over the plexi
without
> any pressure on it, turn it over and do it a second time then put the
> flannel in a plastic bag to washing.
> >
> > If there are bugs take another clean cloth soaked in the soapy
water
> gently clean them off. Put this cloth in the bag for washing.
> >
> > I have used Mirror Glaze for around forty years and would use
nothing
> else, recently a friend asked me to try some Plexus and found it to
be a
> good product. Again taking another clean cloth spray on the cleaner
and
wipe
> dry, another cloth for the laundry bag.
> >
> > This may sound a bit like over- kill but it is the only way I could
be
> sure of not winding up with some scratches.
> >
> > I have flown many aircraft that had scratched plexi and found that
by
> using Mirror Glaze all but the worst scratches would eventually
disappear.
> >
> > If the canopy is new and scratch free the Plexus will sure do the
job
and
> is quicker to use.
> >
> > Anyway the whole idea is prevent getting any scratches in the first
place
> and the only way I have been able to do that is not rub with any
gritty
> stuff on the plexi.
> >
> > Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay, B.C.
> >
> > Eustace Bowhay
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________ Message 24
____________________________________
Time: 09:23:59 PM PST US
From: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
--> RV-List message posted by: "Karie Daniel" <karie4@comcast.net>
Although it hasn't been mentioned yet, I learned that to avoid creating
scratches that you never, ever, ever wipe or clean plexiglass in a
circular
motion. Always wipe up and down. I see guys going to town with whatever
cleaner as if they were "waxing" the canopy. This is the fastest way to
scratch it up.
Maybe an old wives tale but that's what the pros say!
Karie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay"
<ebowhay@jetstream.net>
>
> Hi Jerry:
>
> Yes it is Meguiars, they have three products #10-17and18. The one I
use is
> #10. However # 17 would probably be better if there are any scratches.
>
> Eustace
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Calvert" <rv6@cox.net>
> >
> > Is this the Meguiars Mirror Glaze or another brand?
> >
> > Jerry Calvert
> > Edmond Ok
> > RV6 N296JC
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eustace Bowhay" <ebowhay@jetstream.net>
> > To: "rv list" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Subject: RV-List: Care of plexiglass
> >
> >
> > > --> RV-List message posted by: "Eustace Bowhay"
<ebowhay@jetstream.net>
> > >
> > > What has worked best for me over the years is the following.
> > >
> > > Use only flannel cloth ( ripped old bed sheet into sixteen inch
squares)
> > then store them in a plastic bag.
> > >
> > > If wind screen (canopy) is dusty (stored for awhile) rinse off
with
> water
> > without touching the plexi by (spraying or pouring water over it.
Then
> with
> > a piece of clean flannel soaked in slightly soapy water and
partially
> wrung
> > out, take it by two corners and drag it full width over the plexi
without
> > any pressure on it, turn it over and do it a second time then put
the
> > flannel in a plastic bag to washing.
> > >
> > > If there are bugs take another clean cloth soaked in the soapy
water
> > gently clean them off. Put this cloth in the bag for washing.
> > >
> > > I have used Mirror Glaze for around forty years and would use
nothing
> > else, recently a friend asked me to try some Plexus and found it to
be
a
> > good product. Again taking another clean cloth spray on the cleaner
and
> wipe
> > dry, another cloth for the laundry bag.
> > >
> > > This may sound a bit like over- kill but it is the only way I
could be
> > sure of not winding up with some scratches.
> > >
> > > I have flown many aircraft that had scratched plexi and found that
by
> > using Mirror Glaze all but the worst scratches would eventually
disappear.
> > >
> > > If the canopy is new and scratch free the Plexus will sure do the
job
> and
> > is quicker to use.
> > >
> > > Anyway the whole idea is prevent getting any scratches in the
first
> place
> > and the only way I have been able to do that is not rub with any
gritty
> > stuff on the plexi.
> > >
> > > Eustace Bowhay Blind Bay, B.C.
> > >
> > > Eustace Bowhay
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________ Message 25
____________________________________
Time: 09:44:18 PM PST US
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER
RELATED
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kraut@engalt.com>
If you are just looking at homebuilts you can use the Aerocrafter CD.
For
factory planes I don't know.
Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Bryan
Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER RELATED
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan"
<rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
Listers,
I have been trying to find an aircraft search based on performance
unsuccessfully. Does anybody know of a site where one could find say
all
comparable aircraft?
200 MPH cruise + or -
4 place
single engine
etc.
Just wondering from what pool of aircraft have comparable performance
figures.
Thanks for any help.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 N616TB
Do Not Archive this.
==
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--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Dang it,
I just realized my last post didn't delete the entire digest, sorry about
that folks. Rule number 47.5, no emails after 12am...
Just test flew the upgraded EZ pilot. Most noticable is the analog slip/skid
ball(quartz tube with hard ball, fluid and a requisite bubble to which one
can try to get it to move across to the other side with various unusual
attitudes).
Its very sensitive. Pay close attention to getting it into the panel square
and level. And its lighted from the panel backlight above it. Can't wait to
see it in the dark. Its not only useful but it really makes this instrument
look very "styling".
The large format TC is way cool, although it took a few minutes after
startup to find zero. It worked great in the air though. The rest of the
features are as good as ever. The Track Offset Position is accessed directly
with the LR sw in course mode. And there are a few slight changes in screen
formats and formatability of user data.
All in all these guys are putting out a great product, and they are
following their market's input desires with timely and useful upgrades.
Second note, although I have traditionally not had too much difficulty with
oil temps, on a hot Sedona AZ day it will see 230 on a long climb out to 10k
and then take its sweet time chilling after level cruise, so I decided to
put one of the cool collars on the oil filter.
I put a 11/16 hole in the plenum and ran a blast tube pointed at it from
about 2" away.
Typical temps today would have been about 190-195, but with the cool collar
on it ran 170-175. I am way impressed, but, that said, I need to fly it some
more and get a better data set on a variety of temp and flying conditions.
It is a pain in the backside to get it on the filter though. The RV6 bird
cage doesn't leave much room in the back for things like engine accessories.
W
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| Subject: | Re: Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER RELATED |
--> RV-List message posted by: alan@reichertech.com
Check Landings:
http://www.landings.com/evird.acgi$pass*64126635!_h-www.landings.com/_landings/pages/search/ac-perf.html
That is all one link, you may need to cut and paste if your reader splits
the lines.
- Alan
>
> Time: 08:34:40 PM PST US
> From: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Aircraft Performance numbers -NOT RV BUILDER RELATED
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Tim Bryan" <rv6flyer@improvementteam.com>
>
> Listers,
>
> I have been trying to find an aircraft search based on performance
> unsuccessfully. Does anybody know of a site where one could find say all
> comparable aircraft?
> 200 MPH cruise + or -
> 4 place
> single engine
> etc.
>
> Just wondering from what pool of aircraft have comparable performance
> figures.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Tim Bryan
> RV-6 N616TB
> Do Not Archive this.
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| Subject: | RE: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
>
> Glen Matejcek wrote:
>
>
> > I do have about 1,300 forced landings I could share with you ; )
> > Do not archive
>
> Glider pilot? ;-)
>
> -Dj
>
>
>Not recently, but yes
gm
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| Subject: | Pix of UFO following me!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
A friend of mine and I were doing a dinner run, he had his camera phone and
snapped some pictures. We were looking at them on the phone trying to
figure out what the spot was. Well after posting them I sure know what it
looks like!!!! Go to Pix #5.
http://www.vzwpix.com/mlib/Navigate?acl=pHolQDzBC7Y
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
>
> Time: 02:57:11 PM PST US
> From: "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
> Subject: RV-List: Fuel Valve
>
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
>
> I am not at all familiar with injected motors. Is there a fuel return line
> from the motor on an IO 360, and do I need to order one of those fancy
fuel
> valves that Vans sells, ($350), in order to return surplus fuel to the
tank,
> and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for that purpose.
> Stan Jones. N.Z.
>
>
Hi Stan-
Here's the deal as I understand it:
1 The fuel injection system itself on the IO 360 does not require a return
line to the tank.
2 The electric boost pump does require a bypass line to allow excess output
fuel volume to circulate back around to any point upstream of the electric
pump.
3 The point of running this return line all the way back to the outlet side
of the selector valve is to provide a length of tubing that acts as a
radiator. This will help dissipate the heat that was picked up by the fuel
while passing through the electric pump. This in turn helps prevent vapor
lock during extended use of the electric pump, like when the mechanical
pump fails over inhospitable terrain.
4 Finding that particular routing of the return line fairly obnoxious, I
elected to bend up an equivalent length of tubing to fit entirely forward
of the gear tower and connect it to the inlet side of the AFP filter. This
was done with the blessings of all relevant parties.
Hope this helps,
FWIW,
YMMV,
Nomex bird cage cover on monitor.....
gm
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--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald McKibben <gmckib@ra.msstate.edu>
I got in late on the discussion of the problems interfacing the TruTrak
autopilot with the King KLX 135A. I just ordered one, and the company
representative I talked to told me it would work. In the experience of this
group, which GPS units WILL work with this autopilot? I also have a
Magellan 315, and they told me it should work also. I plan to wire in two
GPS sources, switch selectable.
Gerald McKibben
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Wheeler great report on the new Trio.
I am sending mine in after my trip to NM this weekend to get the
upgrade. This is one I asked for during my initial tests.
And you are right, these guys are great to work with. As a testament to
my confidence in them, I just received my servo for my wing of the Super
8. Even thought I am 2 years from flying it, I know this is the unit I
want guiding me along.
I am very excited about the product and feel privileged to be able to
provide input with quick upgrades. Like raising a child. I am a proud
Papa.
Have a great trip and of course, you have a place to stay in Atlanta.
Regards,
Mike Stewart
6A flying
Super 8 in the womb
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wheeler North
'"@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: trio report
--> RV-List message posted by: Wheeler North <wnorth@sdccd.cc.ca.us>
Dang it,
I just realized my last post didn't delete the entire digest, sorry
about
that folks. Rule number 47.5, no emails after 12am...
Just test flew the upgraded EZ pilot. Most noticable is the analog
slip/skid
ball(quartz tube with hard ball, fluid and a requisite bubble to which
one
can try to get it to move across to the other side with various unusual
attitudes).
Its very sensitive. Pay close attention to getting it into the panel
square
and level. And its lighted from the panel backlight above it. Can't wait
to
see it in the dark. Its not only useful but it really makes this
instrument
look very "styling".
The large format TC is way cool, although it took a few minutes after
startup to find zero. It worked great in the air though. The rest of the
features are as good as ever. The Track Offset Position is accessed
directly
with the LR sw in course mode. And there are a few slight changes in
screen
formats and formatability of user data.
All in all these guys are putting out a great product, and they are
following their market's input desires with timely and useful upgrades.
Second note, although I have traditionally not had too much difficulty
with
oil temps, on a hot Sedona AZ day it will see 230 on a long climb out to
10k
and then take its sweet time chilling after level cruise, so I decided
to
put one of the cool collars on the oil filter.
I put a 11/16 hole in the plenum and ran a blast tube pointed at it from
about 2" away.
Typical temps today would have been about 190-195, but with the cool
collar
on it ran 170-175. I am way impressed, but, that said, I need to fly it
some
more and get a better data set on a variety of temp and flying
conditions.
It is a pain in the backside to get it on the filter though. The RV6
bird
cage doesn't leave much room in the back for things like engine
accessories.
W
==
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--> RV-List message posted by: "DAVID REEL" <dreel@cox.net>
Although your particular fuel injection system may not require a fuel return line,
you should consider adding a T with a small bleeder hole, say #60 drill size,
and a small return line to one tank. This helps prevent hard starting when
the hot engine compartment vaporizes fuel in the lines. I'd also consider simplifying
the fuel system by eliminating the tank switch and providing a low
pressure facet fuel pump to transfer fuel from the other tank as needed. This
makes the return tank a single point of failure in the system in case, say, the
fuel vent becomes plugged. Overall though, I'd say the reliability is similar
to a switched system & you can drain the non-return tank dry without worrying
about the engine sputtering when the level gets low. Practically, this decreases
unusable fuel..
Dave Reel - RV8A
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| Subject: | Re: Pix of UFO following me!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
Scott Bilinski wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless.com>
>
>A friend of mine and I were doing a dinner run, he had his camera phone and
>snapped some pictures. We were looking at them on the phone trying to
>figure out what the spot was. Well after posting them I sure know what it
>looks like!!!! Go to Pix #5.
>
>
>
Pretty cool picture, I guess the UFO couldn't catch you in the RV :)
--
Chris W
Bring Back the HP 15C
http://hp15c.org
Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
http://thewishzone.com
do not archive
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
>Wheeler great report on the new Trio.
>I am sending mine in after my trip to NM this weekend to get the
>upgrade. This is one I asked for during my initial tests.
>
Mike,
Have a great trip and let me know if you need any info or guidance on ops in
New Mexico. I hangar the RV8 at AEG in Albuquerque. Wx forecast for this
weekend is severe clear, hot and dry. Go figure. :)
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51 tailcone
http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Pix of UFO following me!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/9656/akroshomepage.htm
>A friend of mine and I were doing a dinner run, he had his camera phone and
>snapped some pictures. We were looking at them on the phone trying to
>figure out what the spot was. Well after posting them I sure know what it
>looks like!!!! Go to Pix #5.
>
>
>http://www.vzwpix.com/mlib/Navigate?acl=pHolQDzBC7Y
>
>
>Scott Bilinski
Well, Scott, it does look pretty alien to me. As long as you didn't get
"probed", it's no cause for concern! I hear those guys can fly a tight
formation and are very good at maintaining radio silence. Why would they
want to talk to us anyway? They're probably into composites. Friends don't
let friends fly plastic UFO's.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
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| Subject: | Pix of UFO following me!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@glasair.org>
Oh! Was that you?
Bruce
www.glasair.org
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Denk
Subject: RE: RV-List: Pix of UFO following me!!
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brian Denk" <akroguy@hotmail.com>
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/9656/akroshomepage.htm
>A friend of mine and I were doing a dinner run, he had his camera phone
and
>snapped some pictures. We were looking at them on the phone trying to
>figure out what the spot was. Well after posting them I sure know what
it
>looks like!!!! Go to Pix #5.
>
>
>http://www.vzwpix.com/mlib/Navigate?acl=pHolQDzBC7Y
>
>
>Scott Bilinski
Well, Scott, it does look pretty alien to me. As long as you didn't get
"probed", it's no cause for concern! I hear those guys can fly a tight
formation and are very good at maintaining radio silence. Why would
they
want to talk to us anyway? They're probably into composites. Friends
don't
let friends fly plastic UFO's.
Brian Denk
RV8 N94BD
RV10 '51
==
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Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:57:57 -0700
--> RV-List message posted by: "Michael Robbins" <robbinsrv8@msn.com>
SoCal RVers;
I'm planning a trip from Seattle to SoCal on Monday 5 June and I'm thinking of
staying either at Van Nuys or Torrance. I need a rental car and I don't think
I can get one at Torrance, plus I know the marine layer can persist quite long
at Torrance, having grown up there. So any suggestions as to the bet place
to go in that area that might be RV friendly?
Mike Robbins
RV-8 N88MJ 410 hours
do not archive
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Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:04:21 -0500
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twsurveyor@msn.com>
I just ordered my EZ pilot II from Trio. I would like to mount the servo under
the seat in my 6A. If anyone has any installation pictures, instructions and/or
advise that they would like to share, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tommy Walker
6A, finishing
Ridgetop, TN
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Ted" <ted_french@telus.net>
Take a look at the pictures at :
http://www3.telus.net/elfrench/rv6%20no4.html
It's for a Navaid but should work in a similiar fashion.
Ted French
RV-6A 180 hrs
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tommy Walker
Subject: RV-List: Trio EZ Pilot
--> RV-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twsurveyor@msn.com>
I just ordered my EZ pilot II from Trio. I would like to mount the servo
under the seat in my 6A. If anyone has any installation pictures,
instructions and/or advise that they would like to share, it would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tommy Walker
6A, finishing
Ridgetop, TN
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
I just replaced my Vans fuel sel valve with an Andair. I will sell it to
you for an Rv list special price :)
Jeff Dowling
RV-6a
Chicago/ Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Konrad Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Valve
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
>
> >I am not at all familiar with injected motors.
> >Is there a fuel return line from the motor on an IO 360,
> No, not on a Lycoming
> >. . . and do I need to order one of those fancy fuel valves that Vans
sells, ($350),
> No, standard fuel valve is fine.
> >. . . in order to return surplus fuel to the tank,
> No
> >. . . and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for that purpose.
> No
> >Stan Jones. N.Z.
> Konrad
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Glen Matejcek wrote:
>>>I do have about 1,300 forced landings I could share with you ; )
>>>Do not archive
>>
>> Glider pilot? ;-)
>>
>>-Dj
>>
>>
>>Not recently, but yes
I was just curious what would cause you to have
1300 "forced" landings, and was joking that with
no engine, well... ;-)
So, I'll bite, why so many forced landings?
-Dj
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Charles Rowbotham" <crowbotham@hotmail.com>
Gerald,
Ours works great with our Garmin 295 - with ground and heading tracks.
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
>From: Gerald McKibben <gmckib@ra.msstate.edu>
>Reply-To: rv-list@matronics.com
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: TruTrak
>Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:51:37 -0500
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Gerald McKibben <gmckib@ra.msstate.edu>
>
>I got in late on the discussion of the problems interfacing the TruTrak
>autopilot with the King KLX 135A. I just ordered one, and the company
>representative I talked to told me it would work. In the experience of this
>group, which GPS units WILL work with this autopilot? I also have a
>Magellan 315, and they told me it should work also. I plan to wire in two
>GPS sources, switch selectable.
>
>Gerald McKibben
>
>
download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
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| Subject: | Air Nibbler vs Air Shears |
0.3 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From: contains numbers mixed in with letters
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
I was browsing through one of the tool catalogs I get in the mail on a regular
basis, dreaming of when I can start building an RV, and was wondering why I would
want both a Nibbler and a Shear. It seems to me since the nibbler can do
inside cuts, like a hole in a panel, and a shear can only do outside cuts, the
Nibbler would be the thing to have. But I am sure there is more to it than that,
so I thought I would ask.
--
Chris W
Bring Back the HP 15C
http://hp15c.org
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" <ron@walker.net>
> So, I'll bite, why so many forced landings?
>
> -Dj
>
I'll take a stab .... gravity ?
;o)
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 |
--> RV-List message posted by: Dj Merrill <deej@thayer.dartmouth.edu>
Ron Walker wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Ron Walker" <ron@walker.net>
>
>> So, I'll bite, why so many forced landings?
>>
>>-Dj
>>
>
>
> I'll take a stab .... gravity ?
Like I said - glider pilot! *grin*
-Dj
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| Subject: | Air Nibbler vs Air Shears 0.3 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS |
From: contains numbers mixed in with letters
--> RV-List message posted by: "Kathleen (rv7)" <Kathleen@rv7.us>
Chris, that's a question I asked a few months ago as I started on my RV-7.
At first, I didn't buy either. I think in building an RV, there is no need
for pneumatic shears. A pair of hand shears is adequate. I decided not to
buy a nibbler, but then found a new/used nibbler for $10 in the box. I
bought it and have already used it more than I ever expected. I don't like
it, but I use it because it makes some jobs really easy to rough in, like
roughing out notches for clearance and so on. I don't use it for big cuts.
I guess it works for that, but I find it difficult to make good straight
cuts with it or to make smooth curves. I'd buy a nibbler again, even at the
regular price. I happy with the had shears and don't see any need for
pneumatic shears.
Start building! It's more fun than you ever imagined!
Kathleen
www.rv7.us
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris W
Subject: RV-List: Air Nibbler vs Air Shears 0.3 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From:
contains numbers mixed in with letters
--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W
--> <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
I was browsing through one of the tool catalogs I get in the mail on a
regular basis, dreaming of when I can start building an RV, and was
wondering why I would want both a Nibbler and a Shear. It seems to me since
the nibbler can do inside cuts, like a hole in a panel, and a shear can only
do outside cuts, the Nibbler would be the thing to have. But I am sure
there is more to it than that, so I thought I would ask.
--
Chris W
Bring Back the HP 15C
http://hp15c.org
Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
http://thewishzone.com
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV-List Digest: 25 Msgs - 06/30/04 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Naval Aviators in the middle of some ocean or sea with NO land in sight ? ?
KABONG 8*) (GBA) Do Not Archive
> >> So, I'll bite, why so many forced landings?
> >>
> >>-Dj
> > I'll take a stab .... gravity ?
> Like I said - glider pilot! *grin*
>
> -Dj
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Emrath" <emrath@comcast.net>
I think we need to clarify this. I believe Stan was referring to the
"purge" line option that AFP offers for their product. This is not the same
as a boost bump pressure relief system that AFP uses. The pressure relief
valve opens with excess boost pump and pipes that back to the inlet side of
the pump. A by-pass valve is also used on this system to by-pass the AFP
pump when running on the engine pump.
Marty in Brentwood TN
Time: 08:34:40 PM PST US
From: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: Skylor Piper <skylor4@yahoo.com>
So to add to all of the different responses...
On my RV-8 drawings for the fuel injected plumbing
routing, Van's shows a return line running from the
Airflow Performance boost bump back to a tee that is
mounted on the fuel valve outlet port. This way, the
return doesn't have to be run all the way back to the
tank and you don't need the expensive valve.
Skylor
RV-8 QB Under Construction
N808SJ Reserved
--- "Stan J. Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Stan J. Jones"
> <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
>
> I am not at all familiar with injected motors. Is
> there a fuel return line
> from the motor on an IO 360, and do I need to order
> one of those fancy fuel
> valves that Vans sells, ($350), in order to return
> surplus fuel to the tank,
> and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for
> that purpose.
> Stan Jones. N.Z.
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/chat
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm
> http://www.matronics.com/archives http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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| Subject: | Air Nibbler vs Air Shears 0.3 |
--> RV-List message posted by: "RV_8 Pilot" <rv_8pilot@hotmail.com>
Second Kathleen's comments. If you get a pneumatic nibbler, be preparred
for lots of sharp little pieces of metal scattered all over your shop! I
got one from Harbor Freight for something like $29. Have used it on a
couple of jobs - one being a new instrument panel. It works well on 0.0625
2024-T3. Doesn't cut very straight at all unless you use a guide.v I had a
cheap hand nibbler during the construction of my plane - sure wished I had
that pneumatic nibbler!
Also, on the panel - use a fly cutter or some kind of punch to make the
round holes. Much easier, precise and provides a nicer finished product.
You can get a fly cutter for $10-15 last I checked. Just keep your fingers
away.
my 2
Bryan Jones -8
www.LoneStarSquadron.com
Houston, Texas
>Chris, that's a question I asked a few months ago as I started on my RV-7.
>At first, I didn't buy either. I think in building an RV, there is no need
>for pneumatic shears. A pair of hand shears is adequate. I decided not to
>buy a nibbler, but then found a new/used nibbler for $10 in the box. I
>bought it and have already used it more than I ever expected. I don't like
>it, but I use it because it makes some jobs really easy to rough in, like
>roughing out notches for clearance and so on. I don't use it for big cuts.
>I guess it works for that, but I find it difficult to make good straight
>cuts with it or to make smooth curves. I'd buy a nibbler again, even at
>the
>regular price. I happy with the had shears and don't see any need for
>pneumatic shears.
>
>Start building! It's more fun than you ever imagined!
>
>Kathleen
>www.rv7.us
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris W
>To: rv-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Air Nibbler vs Air Shears 0.3 FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS From:
>contains numbers mixed in with letters
>
>--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W
>--> <1qazxsw23edcvfr45tgbnhy67ujm@cox.net>
>
>I was browsing through one of the tool catalogs I get in the mail on a
>regular basis, dreaming of when I can start building an RV, and was
>wondering why I would want both a Nibbler and a Shear. It seems to me
>since
>the nibbler can do inside cuts, like a hole in a panel, and a shear can
>only
>do outside cuts, the Nibbler would be the thing to have. But I am sure
>there is more to it than that, so I thought I would ask.
>
>
>--
>Chris W
>
>Bring Back the HP 15C
>http://hp15c.org
>
>Not getting the gifts you want? The Wish Zone can help.
>http://thewishzone.com
>
>
>advertising on the Matronics Forums.
>
>
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| Subject: | Nose gear leg nut |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jeff Orear" <jorear@new.rr.com>
List:
I am losing enough hair as it is without pulling it out looking for the all metal
lock nut that is called out for the bolt that holds the nosegear onto the motor
mount for a 6A. It calls for an MS21045-5 all metal locknut. I have looked
in my bag content lists and cannot for the life of me find where to find one.
I can find it listed for bags that were not included with the 6A/7A finish
kit, however.
Was a regular old nylock nut substituted? Is this area too prone to exposure to
heat to use a nylock nut??
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A N782P (reserved)
firewall forward
Peshtigo, WI
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
Thanks for the offer, but I will probably be fitting an Andair too
Stan
-------Original Message-------
From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Valve
--> RV-List message posted by: "Shemp" <shempdowling@earthlink.net>
I just replaced my Vans fuel sel valve with an Andair. I will sell it to
you for an Rv list special price :)
Jeff Dowling
RV-6a
Chicago/ Louisville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Konrad Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel Valve
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Konrad Werner" <klwerner@comcast.net>
>
> >I am not at all familiar with injected motors.
> >Is there a fuel return line from the motor on an IO 360,
> No, not on a Lycoming
> >. . . and do I need to order one of those fancy fuel valves that Vans
sells, ($350),
> No, standard fuel valve is fine.
> >. . . in order to return surplus fuel to the tank,
> No
> >. . . and do I need to plumb up two new fuel lines for that purpose.
> No
> >Stan Jones. N.Z.
> Konrad
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pix of UFO following me!! |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Stan Jones" <stan.jones@xtra.co.nz>
Go on !!!! How did you organise that. Did you give him a call. You were
lucky he did not zap you.
Stan, A non believer.
-------Original Message-------
From: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV-List: Pix of UFO following me!!
--> RV-List message posted by: Scott Bilinski <bilinski@kyocera-wireless
com>
A friend of mine and I were doing a dinner run, he had his camera phone and
snapped some pictures. We were looking at them on the phone trying to
figure out what the spot was. Well after posting them I sure know what it
looks like!!!! Go to Pix #5.
http://www.vzwpix.com/mlib/Navigate?aclpHolQDzBC7Y
Scott Bilinski
Eng dept 305
Phone (858) 657-2536
Pager (858) 502-5190
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear leg nut |
--> RV-List message posted by: Vanremog@aol.com
In a message dated 7/1/2004 9:33:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jorear@new.rr.com writes:
I am losing enough hair as it is without pulling it out looking for the all
metal lock nut that is called out for the bolt that holds the nosegear onto
the motor mount for a 6A. It calls for an MS21045-5 all metal locknut. I
have looked in my bag content lists and cannot for the life of me find where to
find one. I can find it listed for bags that were not included with the
6A/7A finish kit, however.
Was a regular old nylock nut substituted? Is this area too prone to
exposure to heat to use a nylock nut??
=====================================
Contrary to popular belief, every little detail item needed to build these
little buggers properly, even now when most of the work is done for you, is
not always provided with the kit. That is why Jim Irwin has a job. All
locking nuts firewall forward must be all metal and ACS has them.
GV (RV-6A N1GV O-360-A1A C/S, flying 703 hrs)
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