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1. 04:59 AM - Re: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area (Jerry Grimmonpre)
2. 06:00 AM - O360 C/S kit for Sale (Dana Overall)
3. 06:03 AM - My epanelbuilder difficulties (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
4. 06:15 AM - RV7 (John Furey)
5. 07:09 AM - Re: RV7 (James Clark)
6. 07:16 AM - Re: Looking for RVator article on Johanssen tiptanks (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
7. 10:21 AM - Re: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area (Jerry Grimmonpre)
8. 12:32 PM - Re: RV-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 06/07/06 (Condon, Philip M.)
9. 12:43 PM - Super unleaded in 160hp O-320 Auto Fuel STC's ( fine point missed ) (Condon, Philip M.)
10. 02:18 PM - LSI mag covers (Doug Weiler)
11. 02:18 PM - Re: Leaking brakes ()
12. 02:33 PM - Re: Leaking brakes (linn Walters)
13. 03:21 PM - Re: Super unleaded in 160hp O-320 Auto Fuel STC's ( fine point missed ) (Jim Sears)
14. 04:04 PM - Tru Trak ADI Pilot II (PGLong@aol.com)
15. 04:16 PM - Re: Super unleaded in 160hp O-320 Auto Fuel STC's ( fine point missed ) (Richard Dudley)
16. 04:59 PM - Re: Tru Trak ADI Pilot II (LarryRobertHelming)
17. 04:59 PM - Re: Leaking brakes (Greg@itmack)
18. 05:43 PM - Re: LSI mag covers (John Huft)
19. 05:59 PM - FF Kit (John Furey)
20. 06:02 PM - Re: Leaking brakes (Alex Peterson)
21. 06:13 PM - Re: Leaking brakes (John D.Heath)
22. 07:15 PM - N-Number font (Puckett, Gregory [DENTK])
23. 08:33 PM - Re: N-Number font (Dale Ensing)
24. 08:49 PM - Re: Leaking brakes (Bob Collins)
25. 08:57 PM - Re: FF Kit (Dan Checkoway)
26. 09:10 PM - Re: N-Number font (Dan Checkoway)
27. 09:12 PM - Re: N-Number font (Rob Prior (rv7))
28. 09:16 PM - Re: N-Number font (Paul Besing)
29. 11:03 PM - Re: N-Number font (Mickey Coggins)
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| Subject: | Re: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
RV-Lister ...
My thanks to all those who responded with their experiences on the Charlotte
... Chicago routing. I'm going around the mountains, NNW to Chicago. A few
more landing areas, if needed, on that circuit.
Regards ...
Jerry Grimmonpre'
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| Subject: | O360 C/S kit for Sale |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dana Overall" <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
The IO360 Angle Valve 200hp I had is now sold along with the 540. I am now
in the process of putting together another O360 kit to go with the Hartzell
C/S/gov combination I have on hand. I already have the crank and case so if
someone wants to get in early and have a wish list, give me a shout or I am
going to continue amassing parts as goods ones come available. You can see
an example on the top link of my website.
http://rvflying.tripod.com
Dana Overall
Richmond, KY i39
RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4
http://rvflying.tripod.com/id30.html
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| Subject: | My epanelbuilder difficulties |
Howdy List!
Regarding previous post about my problems with epanelbuilder:
Bill VonDane has been in touch and it appears epanelbuilder is too much for
my slo dial-up connection to handle-- But much to his credit he is worki
ng to
make it more accessible for those of us still in the 20th century.- It rea
lly
looks like a useful tool, but just not so much for those of us who prefer
putting ga$ in our planes instead of the pockets of the Internet mogul$. (si
gh)-
Maybe one day when I get rich like everybody else, I'll be able to get all t
hat
advertising at breathtaking speed!-- 8-)
No ill-will intended for epanel, but at least now I know what the problem is
-
my penny pinching!- 8-(
Mark Phillips - do not archive
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I have an RV7 QB kit on the way. I now have to decide on engine. I'm leaning
towards TMX IO-360 with Roller tappets and Cold Air forward facing intake. I
would appreciate any thoughts on carb-vs-injection, roller tappets, etc.
TMX-vs-Superior-vs-Lycomming-vs-??? Have any of you exchanged the Vans cowl,
wing tips, wheel pants for the Same James? If so what results did you get.
Any input would be appreciated.
John Furey
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John,
I have been working with Will James getting the newer "short cowl" (same
dimensions as Van's cowl but with the circular inlets) working on a
"carbureted O-360". I wnated a different look (customization you know) and
hoped there might be a little performance thrown in as a bonus.
I think I have the basics sorted out (there are a few little nuances to work
out with the transition from the circular inlet to the Van's airbox) so
contact me off-list if you decide to go that route.
I do not have any performance data as the plane is nowhere near flying (yet)
but what I am hoping for is enough to offset the drag from the **nosegear**
and **steps** that this plane will have. :-)
BTW, Will and Liz have been very nice to work with on this effort. If I were
not dragging my feet so much (fingers in too many pies) this plane would
have flown a few YEARS ago!!
James
On 6/8/06, John Furey <john@fureychrysler.com> wrote:
>
> I have an RV7 QB kit on the way. I now have to decide on engine. I'm
> leaning towards TMX IO-360 with Roller tappets and Cold Air forward facing
> intake. I would appreciate any thoughts on carb-vs-injection, roller
> tappets, etc. TMX-vs-Superior-vs-Lycomming-vs-??? Have any of you exchanged
> the Vans cowl, wing tips, wheel pants for the Same James? If so what results
> did you get. Any input would be appreciated.
>
> John Furey
>
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Looking for RVator article on Johanssen tiptanks |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I would be happy to do it for you, just let me know the year and issue #
and I will forward it to you in a PDF.
Dan
40269 RV10 (N289DT)
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 3:42 PM
Subject: RV-List: Looking for RVator article on Johanssen tiptanks
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Does anyone out there have a copy of this article that they would be
willing to scan in for me?
IIRC it came out in '03.
I have a set - just want to complete my documentation.
Thanks,
Ralph
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| Subject: | Re: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Do not archive
Hi Brad ...
Thanks for your inquiry about the RV4 and suggestion. I don't have one
minute in the airplane but have the memory of a few minutes in a single
engine airplane when the engine wasn't turning. I made a successful dead
stick landing from 35,000'. I don't think the altitude really mattered much
but when the only available single runway appeared in sight, it was a
welcome relief breaking out of the clouds at the high key point ... 5,000'.
Mountain tops, in that area, were at 3400'. It was a priceless lesson which
cost next to nothing considering the outcome.
A direct flight over Ashville heading NNW to Chicago would be considered if
there were more runways and fewer trees/rocks on the NW side of Ashville.
Regards ...
Jerry Grimmonpre'
RV8A Electrical
Huntley IL
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: RV-List: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Ransom" <aztailwind@uneedspeed.net>
>
> "Flatlanders"
> My wheels leave the ground at 7,030 feet! I have never flown in an RV as
> yet but..yea man, Rocket skyward at 1500 Feet per minute and get to an
> altitude that you will miss everything and go. What is the highes point
> back east anyway?? 4,000 feet?? ;-)) (heat pants on) - oh and have you
> flown in that RV 4 yet?
>
> Brad
> RV6A -160 HP E2D
> Finishing kit
> 182D (Gas Hog) family SUV
> Flagstaff AZ -(and no it is not all Desert out here)
>
> Do not archive
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:09 AM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (Jim Jewell)
2. 12:22 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Cutting (Steve Davis)
3. 03:08 AM - Re: Super unleaded in 160hp O-320 (Jim Sears)
4. 05:04 AM - Re: Purchasing oxygen (Stewart, Michael (ISS
Atlanta))
5. 05:22 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Cutting (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
6. 07:06 AM - Re: Purchasing oxygen (Larry Mac Donald)
7. 08:15 AM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (Darrell)
8. 08:30 AM - Re: Purchasing oxygen (John Danielson)
9. 09:33 AM - Re: Dimpling Boo-boo (JOHN STARN)
10. 09:53 AM - Re: Instrument Panel Cutting (Paul Besing)
11. 09:58 AM - Re: Purchasing oxygen (Stewart, Michael (ISS
Atlanta))
12. 12:51 PM - Looking for RVator article on Johanssen tiptanks
(Ralph E. Capen)
13. 05:02 PM - Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area (Brad Ransom)
14. 05:37 PM - Re: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area (Chopper
2)
15. 07:02 PM - epanelbuilder.com difficulties (Fiveonepw@aol.com)
16. 07:08 PM - Leaking brakes ()
17. 07:44 PM - Re: epanelbuilder.com difficulties (James Clark)
18. 07:51 PM - Re: Leaking brakes (John D.Heath)
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Time: 12:09:48 AM PST US
From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell@telus.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
Paul,
Redimple the hole put a rivet in it and cary on McDuff.
Keep building,
Jim in Kelowna do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Folbrecht, Paul
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame. My
helper's hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the
male die as the mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole
about
.20" from the existing hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a steel
backrivet plate, but the hole from the dimple die is still there.
I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a
dab of tank sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea
to
prevent a vibration-crack from forming? There must be SOP for this
sort
of thing?
Paul
9A QB #1176
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 12:22:22 AM PST US
From: "Steve Davis" <sdavis12@midsouth.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Instrument Panel Cutting
--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Davis" <sdavis12@midsouth.rr.com>
Thanks Dean!!!
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:54 AM
Subject: RV-List: Instrument Panel Cutting
> --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
> Just a quick thanks to all of you folks you responded to my quest for
the
> optimum methods for cutting holes in the instrument panel (that are
not of
> the round variety). After experimenting with several different
things, I
> found that a (baby size) router used for laminate trimming worked the
best
> for me. I made a wooden jig for the two rectangular holes needed for
the
> EFIS and AOA mounting and the results turned out very nice, almost as
good
> a
> as a CNC milling machine. Round instrument holes were cut with the
common
> fly cutter and came out nice as well, I just had to adjust the damn
thing
> for each my 2.5 inch instruments as they didn't seem to be a common
size!
>
> I solved my problem of the funny VM1000 engine monitor display cutout
by
> sending my blank to Mr Steve Davis of Memphis Tennessee (phone number
> 901-240-3068). Steve has autocad AND machining facilities and has
done
> some
> very nice work on RV panels. He did a very nice job on my cutout and
the
> price was VERY reasonable, it saved me a lot of work and
disappointment. I
> highly recommend letting Steve do your panel if you have the
resources.
> I've spent the better part of the last month (spare time) doing the
flight
> instrument side of the panel and it was a lot more work than I
expected (I
> have lots of stuff in there though). I enjoyed doing it but could be
> further along towards clearing the prop if I'd let someone else do
that
> part
> of it. Oh well, I'll be able to say I built EVERYTHING on the
airplane
> except the metal stampings. Oh the joys and frustrations of building
your
> own aircraft!!
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Not long to- Clear-the-prop
>
>
> --
>
>
________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 03:08:32 AM PST US
From: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Super unleaded in 160hp O-320
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
> My understanding is that the engine will work on the mogas but the >
STC
> doesn't cover it. So, it would seem the decision is if you want > to
keep
> your engine certificated.
One has to look at the STCs. The EAA STC may not cover high
compression
engines; but, the Petersen seems to cover them. Do keep in mind that
STCs,
ADs, etc. do not apply to experimentals; but, one is foolish to not
comply,
in many cases. If the testing was done for the Petersen STC for high
compression approval, I'd think it would be OK to use 91-93 antiknock
fuels
in them. If not, I wouldn't. Fortunately, his STC does seem to cover
them;
so, I'm going to use autogas in my next RV, as well. :-)
As for the certification, Pat Patterson learned in AB-DAR school that a
certifiied engine is indeed decertified when it is attached to an
experimental. It is true, even if one does not remove the data plate,
which
I refuse to do. Just as Sam said, all one has to do is have an IA
approve
the engine's use on a certified airplane for it to be put back to use
as
such. I'm sure mine could be put back to service with a couple of
changes
like removing the starter and alternator. I kept mine in certified
condition, I thought, by having an A&P sign off the engine at
inspection
time. I quit that when Pat told me what he'd learned. I still have
Pat,
the A&P, help me with the inspection; but, I do the sign off, now.
Actually, I don't know why we worry so much about keeping our engines
certified, anyway. How often do you think an engine from an
experimental is
going to be put back into a certified airplane? Most likely, it will
be
snapped up by another experimental builder before the certified status
comes
into play.
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
RV-7A #70317
EAA Tech Counselor
________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 05:04:45 AM PST US
Subject: RE: RV-List: Purchasing oxygen
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
It was based on this article that I went welding Ox about 4 years ago.
It was not as cheap a solution as I had hoped.
Got to buy an ox welding tank in order to be able to exchange for
refill.
Had to buy the adapter filler cable to go from Welding Tank to Medical
portable tank.
Had to buy that darn fingertip Pulse ox sensor to monitor like this one
http://www.scantechmedical.com/onyx_ii.htm
Had to get the little Nelson A4 in-line flow meters like this one.
http://www.airportshoppe.com/aviation_oxygen/compared.html
Had to get the oxygen saving cannula with the little flapper valve
built
in to conserve ox.
Blah Blah Blah.
My welding tank swap costs me $21, and it will refill my D size port
tank about 6 times before pressure drop under 2800psi.
In the end I like the flexibility of filling when I need it. But this
is
not a cheap endeavour and Ill be years recouping my cost.
I use this much more with my Super 8 than I did in the 6 since the S8
gets to altitude faster and cruises better there.
Best,
Mike
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob J.
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Purchasing oxygen
Konrad, have a look at: http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/182079-1.html
Regards,
Bob Japundza
RV-6 flying F1 under const.
On 6/6/06, Konrad L. Werner <klwerner@comcast.net> wrote:
Out of curiosity:
What are the actual differences between medical/surgical-, aviation-
and
good old welding oxygen?
do not archive
________________________________ Message 5
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Time: 05:22:04 AM PST US
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Subject: Re: RV-List: Instrument Panel Cutting
In a message dated 6/7/06 12:58:42 AM Central Daylight Time,
dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net writes:
> He did a very nice job on my cutout and the
> price was VERY reasonable, it saved me a lot of work and
disappointment. I
> highly recommend letting Steve do your panel if you have the
resources.
>>>
I'll second Deans nomination!
Mark Phillips
________________________________ Message 6
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Time: 07:06:16 AM PST US
Subject: Re: RV-List: Purchasing oxygen
From: Larry Mac Donald <lm4@juno.com>
--> RV-List message posted by: Larry Mac Donald <lm4@juno.com>
I'll take a shot at this.
YESTERDAY:
Oxygen was compressed by compressors. If they did
not use things, such as charcoal filters, it turned out to be
welders oxygen. If they took out the water it was aviation oxygen.
If they put "so much" water back into it it was medical oxygen.
TODAY: They compress it into a liquid. Of course that is very
cold stuff and in the process the water freezes so there won't
be any water in the LOX. And since it was processed without the
use of standard compressors there won't be any oil in the LOX.
SO NOW: where ever you fill up you will have clean oilless,
waterless, oxygen that will never ever fail you at FL180, unless
you happen to be bying from a place in Egypt, Rumania, west
podunk or someplace like that. I have to believe that worldwide
non-standard processes are the reason the FAA still clings to
thier FAR's regarding the source of oxygen.
That's my story and I'm stuck with it.
Larry Mac Donald
lm4@juno.com
Rochester N.Y.
Do not achcive
> > Out of curiosity:
> > What are the actual differences between medical/surgical-,
> aviation- and
> > good old welding oxygen?
> > do not archive
> >
________________________________ Message 7
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Time: 08:15:30 AM PST US
From: Darrell <lifeofreiley2003@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
Aah yes... been there and done that. I would follow Jim's suggestion as
well.
Darrell
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Redimple the hole put a rivet in it and cary on McDuff.
Keep building,
Jim in Kelowna do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Folbrecht, Paul
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:26 AM
Subject: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
A couple days ago I was dimpling elevator skins with the C-frame.
My helpers
hand, pulling back the skin, slipped and it popped out of the male die
as the
mallet was coming down, creating a new dimple/hole about .20 from the
existing
hole. I pounded it out with a hammer on a steel backrivet plate, but
the
hole from the dimple die is still there.
I would consider this to be not too big a deal (I hope). Perhaps a
dab of tank
sealant on the underside of the skin would be a good idea to prevent a
vibration-crack
from forming? There must be SOP for this sort of thing?
Paul
9A QB #1176
Darrell
RV7A "Reiley Rocket"
N622DR Reserved
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________________________________ Message 8
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Time: 08:30:11 AM PST US
From: "John Danielson" <johnd@wlcwyo.com>
Subject: RE: RV-List: Purchasing oxygen
Is there any reason that a small medical oxygen cylinder and canulas
not
be used in an aircraft.
My father, who passed away, had medical oxygen equipment that I now
have. I can not see any reason I couldn't use this in my plane.
Am I wrong?
John L. Danielson
________________________________ Message 9
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Time: 09:33:01 AM PST US
From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
While building the rudder (RV-4) for the HRII we drilled an
accidentally
an extra hole on one side beyond the end of the rib. Sooo we drilled a
matching hole on the other side too. Put rivets in both and when ask
about the "extra" rivets by other -4 builders we would respond: "You
didn't the emergency AD ?". Same guys ask how we got the 3 burner camp
stove in the Rocket at OSH. Answer was simple: We put it one of the
wing
tip lockers. You would be surprised by the number of people what
checked
out the locker door size. Do Not Archive KABONG
Don't stress out about a rivet, most real problems are caused by the
loose nut with his/her hand on the stick. (pun intended)
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dimpling Boo-boo
Aah yes... been there and done that. I would follow Jim's suggestion
as well.
Darrell
Jim Jewell <jjewell@telus.net> wrote:
Paul,
Redimple the hole put a rivet in it and cary on McDuff.
Keep building,
________________________________ Message 10
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Time: 09:53:58 AM PST US
From: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Instrument Panel Cutting
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
Steve did my new panel on my RV-4 as well...check out
www.mykitlog.com/pbesing Nice work, Steve.
Paul Besing
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:54 AM
> Subject: RV-List: Instrument Panel Cutting
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS"
> > <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
> >
> > Just a quick thanks to all of you folks you
> responded to my quest for the
> > optimum methods for cutting holes in the
> instrument panel (that are not of
> > the round variety). After experimenting with
> several different things, I
> > found that a (baby size) router used for laminate
> trimming worked the best
> > for me. I made a wooden jig for the two
> rectangular holes needed for the
> > EFIS and AOA mounting and the results turned out
> very nice, almost as good
> > a
> > as a CNC milling machine. Round instrument holes
> were cut with the common
> > fly cutter and came out nice as well, I just had
> to adjust the damn thing
> > for each my 2.5 inch instruments as they didn't
> seem to be a common size!
> >
> > I solved my problem of the funny VM1000 engine
> monitor display cutout by
> > sending my blank to Mr Steve Davis of Memphis
> Tennessee (phone number
> > 901-240-3068). Steve has autocad AND machining
> facilities and has done
> > some
> > very nice work on RV panels. He did a very nice
> job on my cutout and the
> > price was VERY reasonable, it saved me a lot of
> work and disappointment. I
> > highly recommend letting Steve do your panel if
> you have the resources.
> > I've spent the better part of the last month
> (spare time) doing the flight
> > instrument side of the panel and it was a lot more
> work than I expected (I
> > have lots of stuff in there though). I enjoyed
> doing it but could be
> > further along towards clearing the prop if I'd let
> someone else do that
> > part
> > of it. Oh well, I'll be able to say I built
> EVERYTHING on the airplane
> > except the metal stampings. Oh the joys and
> frustrations of building your
> > own aircraft!!
> >
> > Dean Psiropoulos
> > RV-6A N197DM
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________________________________ Message 11
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Time: 09:58:45 AM PST US
Subject: RE: RV-List: Purchasing oxygen
From: "Stewart, Michael (ISS Atlanta)" <mstewart@iss.net>
Will work great in your plane!
But he probably has regular cannulas.
Practically speaking, you would want the ones with the little flapper
in
them like the one on this page.
http://www.airportshoppe.com/aviation_oxygen/compared.html
or this one
http://aerox.com/Pages/masks.html
Really saves the oxygen. I could pull a tank dry in 3 hours on a std
cannula at 18k'. I can go twice that with the flapper valve one.
Mike
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Danielson
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Purchasing oxygen
Is there any reason that a small medical oxygen cylinder and canulas
not
be used in an aircraft.
My father, who passed away, had medical oxygen equipment that I now
have. I can not see any reason I couldn't use this in my plane.
Am I wrong?
John L. Danielson
________________________________ Message 12
____________________________________
Time: 12:51:16 PM PST US
From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Subject: RV-List: Looking for RVator article on Johanssen tiptanks
--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
Does anyone out there have a copy of this article that they would be
willing to
scan in for me?
IIRC it came out in '03.
I have a set - just want to complete my documentation.
Thanks,
Ralph
________________________________ Message 13
____________________________________
Time: 05:02:59 PM PST US
From: "Brad Ransom" <aztailwind@uneedspeed.net>
Subject: RV-List: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area
--> RV-List message posted by: "Brad Ransom"
<aztailwind@uneedspeed.net>
"Flatlanders"
My wheels leave the ground at 7,030 feet! I have never flown in an RV
as yet
but..yea man, Rocket skyward at 1500 Feet per minute and get to an
altitude
that you will miss everything and go. What is the highes point back
east
anyway?? 4,000 feet?? ;-)) (heat pants on) - oh and have you flown
in
that RV 4 yet?
Brad
RV6A -160 HP E2D
Finishing kit
182D (Gas Hog) family SUV
Flagstaff AZ -(and no it is not all Desert out here)
Do not archive
From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Subject: RV-List: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Hi RV- Listers ..
I just purchased Ron Awad's RV-4 and will soon fly it from the East
side of
Charlotte NC to just West of Chicago O'hare area. I'm wanting to know
which
direction most of you would fly heading out of Charlotte. Would you go
South of Charlotte and make an end run around the mountains or would
you go
over the pass at Ashville and head straight out for a direct course to
Chicago area? The airplane is VFR only so it's a given that the ground
has
to be visible.
I'll make two stops for fuel not more than 300 miles at a time. Any
suggested places to stop or avoid. The first stop will be an over
night so
it'd be nice to have it close to a hotel (town area).
Crosswind landings ... what should a newbie pilot (in the 4) avoid in
the
way of wind velocity for cross? Any other suggestions that would
help?
Many thanks ...
Jerry Grimmonpre'
________________________________ Message 14
____________________________________
Time: 05:37:32 PM PST US
From: "Chopper 2" <mkellems@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area
--> RV-List message posted by: "Chopper 2" <mkellems@bellsouth.net>
Jerry, I'd like to suggest you stop in at RNC McMinnville, Tn. Their
price
for avgas is $3.53 per gal. tax included. Not far from your originally
planned stop. Or. email me offlist for a delivery quote . RV's handle
crosswinds better than any other taildragger I've flown. (2500+ TW)
Anyone
else traveling through Tennessee might check your flightplan to save a
few
bucks. Tell'em Mike Kellems from Lewisburg sent you for the local
price.
Mike K. RV3 29AT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: RV-List: Charlotte NC routing to Chicago area
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jerry Grimmonpre" <jerry@mc.net>
>
> Hi RV- Listers ..
> I just purchased Ron Awad's RV-4 > I'll make two stops for fuel not
more
> than 300 miles at a time. Any
> suggested places to stop or avoid. The first stop will be an over
night
> so
> it'd be nice to have it close to a hotel (town area).
>
> Crosswind landings ... what should a newbie pilot (in the 4) avoid in
the
> way of wind velocity for cross? Any other suggestions that would
> help?
> Many thanks ...
> Jerry Grimmonpre'
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
> --
>
>
--
________________________________ Message 15
____________________________________
Time: 07:02:22 PM PST US
From: Fiveonepw@aol.com
Subject: RV-List: epanelbuilder.com difficulties
Howdy all-
Has anyone had any success using this website:
http://www.epanelbuilder.com/
I've registered, downloaded the required Macromedia app, supposedly
started a
project, couldn't get any instruments to show in the library (after
struggling for 15 minutes to get a panel template to show) and then
couldn't open
that
project next time I tried, and generally run into more problems than
any app
(out of hundreds- this stuff is NOT new to me!) I've ever tried to use
before.
Then tried to get assistance, been issued "tickets" (what ever
happened to
customer support via e-mail, fer chrissake!!) and am genuinely
frustrated and
annoyed after over 3 hours for 2 days of trying to accomplish anything.
Must
not be holding my left foot in the correct position or the moon is out
of
phase. Anyone else with horror/success stories with this?
Suggestions for alternatives welcome- maybe I'll just go back to
AutoCAD and
my previous excellent panel cutting service....
Mark Phillips N51PW
do not archive
________________________________ Message 16
____________________________________
Time: 07:08:37 PM PST US
From: <dwhite17@columbus.rr.com>
Subject: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Anyone got any good ideas on how to stop leaking brake cylinders?
All
four are leaking a tiny bit at the lower fitting. I first installed
them without any pipe dope. then I drained the brake lines, cleaned
the
fittings and reinstalled with prematex sealant and they still leak a
tiny bit.
Ideas please!
________________________________ Message 17
____________________________________
Time: 07:44:34 PM PST US
From: "James Clark" <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RV-List: epanelbuilder.com difficulties
Mark, Give me a call.
I was able to put some instruments up. The user interface could be
improved
and new features added but I *was* able to get it to work.
803-238-2113 (ANYTIME)
James
On 6/7/06, Fiveonepw@aol.com <Fiveonepw@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Howdy all-
>
> Has anyone had any success using this website:
>
> http://www.epanelbuilder.com/
>
> I've registered, downloaded the required Macromedia app, supposedly
> started a project, couldn't get any instruments to show in the
library
> (after struggling for 15 minutes to get a panel template to show) and
then
> couldn't open that project next time I tried, and generally run into
more
> problems than any app (out of hundreds- this stuff is NOT new to me!)
I've
> ever tried to use before. Then tried to get assistance, been issued
> "tickets" (what ever happened to customer support via e-mail, fer
> chrissake!!) and am genuinely frustrated and annoyed after over 3
hours for
> 2 days of trying to accomplish anything. Must not be holding my left
foot
> in the correct position or the moon is out of phase. Anyone else
with
> horror/success stories with this?
>
> Suggestions for alternatives welcome- maybe I'll just go back to
AutoCAD
> and my previous excellent panel cutting service....
>
> Mark Phillips N51PW
> do not archive
>
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
________________________________ Message 18
____________________________________
Time: 07:51:53 PM PST US
From: "John D.Heath" <altoq@cebridge.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
If you're talking about the brake line, are the double flared? If they
aren't, double flair them. If they are, they make soft copper washers
that are meant to take care of the same kind of problem in air
conditioner systems. Auto parts stores have them. If you're sure its
the
fittings, good but it might not hurt to look at the calipers and make
sure the pistons are not inverted, exposing the "O" rings. Some came
from the manufacturer that way.
Good Luck
John D.
----- Original Message -----
From: dwhite17@columbus.rr.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Anyone got any good ideas on how to stop leaking brake cylinders?
All four are leaking a tiny bit at the lower fitting. I first
installed
them without any pipe dope. then I drained the brake lines, cleaned
the
fittings and reinstalled with prematex sealant and they still leak a
tiny bit.
Ideas please!
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| Subject: | Super unleaded in 160hp O-320 Auto Fuel STC's ( fine point missed |
)
--> RV-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
If you read carefully in the EAA and Perterson STC's for auto fuel
STC's, one notices that all of the STC's are always combined with a
airframe and engine pair, Just to say that the Lycoming-ABCD engine is
STCed is incorrect when this particular example should be Lycoming-ABCD
as installed in a Cessn-1234. Meaning that if the same engine is
installed on a Piper=XYZ may NOT be Stc-able for auto fuel. Everyone
seems to automatically assume that it's the engine only that determines
the STC-ability to use auto fuel, when indeed it's the airframe and
engine PAIR that determines the ability to consume autofeuk
Time: 03:08:32 AM PST US
From: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: RV-List: Super unleaded in 160hp O-320
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
> My understanding is that the engine will work on the mogas but the >
STC
> doesn't cover it. So, it would seem the decision is if you want > to
keep
> your engine certificated.
One has to look at the STCs. The EAA STC may not cover high
compression
engines; but, the Petersen seems to cover them. Do keep in mind that
STCs,
ADs, etc. do not apply to experimentals; but, one is foolish to not
comply,
in many cases. If the testing was done for the Petersen STC for high
compression approval, I'd think it would be OK to use 91-93 antiknock
fuels
in them. If not, I wouldn't. Fortunately, his STC does seem to cover
them;
so, I'm going to use autogas in my next RV, as well. :-)
As for the certification, Pat Patterson learned in AB-DAR school that a
certifiied engine is indeed decertified when it is attached to an
experimental. It is true, even if one does not remove the data plate,
which
I refuse to do. Just as Sam said, all one has to do is have an IA
approve
the engine's use on a certified airplane for it to be put back to use
as
such. I'm sure mine could be put back to service with a couple of
changes
like removing the starter and alternator. I kept mine in certified
condition, I thought, by having an A&P sign off the engine at
inspection
time. I quit that when Pat told me what he'd learned. I still have
Pat,
the A&P, help me with the inspection; but, I do the sign off, now.
Actually, I don't know why we worry so much about keeping our engines
certified, anyway. How often do you think an engine from an
experimental is
going to be put back into a certified airplane? Most likely, it will
be
snapped up by another experimental builder before the certified status
comes
into play.
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
Greetings all:
I have recently installed dual LSI electronic ignition in my RV-4. I
installed the mag opening covers just as Klaus recommended with no gasket.
I used my usual Aviation Form-A-Gasket as a sealant but the covers are
leaking oil.
Any suggestions on sealing these better? Did anyone use a gasket?
Doug
N722DW, 290 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Leaking brakes |
No, its the fitting at the brake pedal cylinder, and just the bottom
fittings!
----- Original Message -----
From: John D.Heath
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
If you're talking about the brake line, are the double flared? If they
aren't, double flair them. If they are, they make soft copper washers
that are meant to take care of the same kind of problem in air
conditioner systems. Auto parts stores have them. If you're sure its the
fittings, good but it might not hurt to look at the calipers and make
sure the pistons are not inverted, exposing the "O" rings. Some came
from the manufacturer that way.
Good Luck
John D.
----- Original Message -----
From: dwhite17@columbus.rr.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Anyone got any good ideas on how to stop leaking brake cylinders?
All four are leaking a tiny bit at the lower fitting. I first installed
them without any pipe dope. then I drained the brake lines, cleaned the
fittings and reinstalled with prematex sealant and they still leak a
tiny bit.
Ideas please!
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| Subject: | Re: Leaking brakes |
dwhite17@columbus.rr.com wrote:
> No, its the fitting at the brake pedal cylinder, and just the bottom
> fittings!
Well, (on the master cylinders) that's where the pressure is!!! You
have two places for leaks. At the flare side and at the pipe side. I'd
use teflon dope (or tape) on the pipe side and fuel lube on the flare
side. Leave at least one thread uncovered on the pipe side to prevent
trash from getting in the system.
Linn
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John D.Heath <mailto:altoq@cebridge.net>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:55 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
>
> If you're talking about the brake line, are the double flared? If
> they aren't, double flair them. If they are, they make soft copper
> washers that are meant to take care of the same kind of problem in
> air conditioner systems. Auto parts stores have them. If you're
> sure its the fittings, good but it might not hurt to look at the
> calipers and make sure the pistons are not inverted, exposing the
> "O" rings. Some came from the manufacturer that way.
>
> Good Luck
> John D.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: dwhite17@columbus.rr.com <mailto:dwhite17@columbus.rr.com>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Leaking brakes
>
> Anyone got any good ideas on how to stop leaking brake
> cylinders? All four are leaking a tiny bit at the lower
> fitting. I first installed them without any pipe dope. then
> I drained the brake lines, cleaned the fittings and
> reinstalled with prematex sealant and they still leak a tiny bit.
>
> Ideas please!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Super unleaded in 160hp O-320 Auto Fuel STC's ( fine point |
missed )
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
>> If you read carefully in the EAA and Perterson STC's for auto fuel
>> STC's, one notices that all of the STC's are always combined with a
>> airframe and engine pair, Just to say that the Lycoming-ABCD engine is
>> STCed is incorrect when this particular example should be Lycoming-ABCD
>> as installed in a Cessn-1234. Meaning that if the same engine is
>> installed on a Piper=XYZ may NOT be Stc-able for auto fuel. Everyone
>> seems to automatically assume that it's the engine only that determines
>> the STC-ability to use auto fuel, when indeed it's the airframe and
>> engine PAIR that determines the ability to consume autofeuk <<
This is true if one owns a commercially built aircraft that must adhere to
the STC. However, experimentals do not require an STC for auto gas.
Therefore, we aren't bound by the restrictions that owners of commercially
built airplanes are. My friend owns a 150hp powered Mooney. His engine
would run quite nicely on 87 antiknock fuel. His airframe/engine is not
included in the STCs; so, he can't use auto gas. The AA-5A Cheetah that I
owned before I started flying my RV-6A was listed in Petersen's STC; so, I
bought the STC for it and took advantage of the savings.
As owners of experimental aircraft, our biggest concerns are having fuel
systems, ignition systems, and compression ratios that allow us to use the
fuel. With that, the fine point as indicated was not missed because
experimentals don't abide by the same rules as commercially built airplanes.
The point of our discussion was what engines might be able to use auto gas
safely in our RV airframes. Based on tests in other airframes, some higher
compression ratio engines are good candidates for auto gas in our RVs, as
well. We just need to use gas with a higher antiknock value.
One of the advantages of building and flying experimentals is that we're
supposed to experiment. I did test flights with auto fuel to be sure it
works in my RV. It did; so, I use it. Knowing that I can up the
compression and still possibly use premium auto gas gives me more options
for my next RV. Think of it this way. As we fly more and more hours on
auto fuels, the FAA may open the doors more for those who fly commerically
built aircraft. Not a bad idea, huh? Our experiences will be quite helpful
as 100LL becomes a thing of the past. :-)
By the way, the only difference I've encountered between having the STCs for
my two previous airplanes and my RV is the paperwork. Or, should I say the
lack of it on the RV. I have a placard at the fuel cap that indicates 100LL
or 87 antiknock fuels. I had to fill out paperwork, put placards at the
tanks, and put tags on the engines for the STCs. I also had to pay for the
STCs, which were well worth it. I played it somewhat smart when I did the
fuel system on my RV. I made it almost identical to the one that was on my
AA-5A Cheetah that was allowed the STC. So far, no complaints and much
savings.
Jim Sears in KY
RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
RV-7A #70317 (One of these days)
EAA Tech Counselor
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| Subject: | Tru Trak ADI Pilot II |
I'm interested in purchasing a Tru Trak ADI Pilot II. Does anyone sell at a
better price than what is advertised? Willing to pay by check so no credit
card charges to the lucky seller. Who has had the best service on Tru Trak
items?...Maybe I should wait for Oshkosh. Any comments?
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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| Subject: | Re: Super unleaded in 160hp O-320 Auto Fuel STC's ( fine point |
missed )
Jim,
I am not aquainted with STC s and how they apply to use of auto fuel.
You mention purchasing Peterson's STC that you bought. What do you
purchase? Is it the right or license to use the process described in the
STC, like a software license? In the case of the experimental aircraft
is that necessary or did you apply it to your Cheeta? Does that STC
apply to an O-320 160 hp Lycoming? One more question. You mention that
you applied the fuel system design to your RV. Are there unique
details of the fuel system design that differ from the standard Vans design?
Regards,
Richard Dudley
-6A O-320-D1A flying
Jim Sears wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim Sears" <jmsears@adelphia.net>
>
>>> If you read carefully in the EAA and Perterson STC's for auto fuel
>>> STC's, one notices that all of the STC's are always combined with a
>>> airframe and engine pair, Just to say that the Lycoming-ABCD engine
>>> is STCed is incorrect when this particular example should be
>>> Lycoming-ABCD as installed in a Cessn-1234. Meaning that if the same
>>> engine is installed on a Piper=XYZ may NOT be Stc-able for auto
>>> fuel. Everyone seems to automatically assume that it's the engine
>>> only that determines the STC-ability to use auto fuel, when indeed
>>> it's the airframe and engine PAIR that determines the ability to
>>> consume autofeuk <<
>>
>
> This is true if one owns a commercially built aircraft that must
> adhere to the STC. However, experimentals do not require an STC for
> auto gas. Therefore, we aren't bound by the restrictions that owners
> of commercially built airplanes are. My friend owns a 150hp powered
> Mooney. His engine would run quite nicely on 87 antiknock fuel. His
> airframe/engine is not included in the STCs; so, he can't use auto
> gas. The AA-5A Cheetah that I owned before I started flying my RV-6A
> was listed in Petersen's STC; so, I bought the STC for it and took
> advantage of the savings.
>
> As owners of experimental aircraft, our biggest concerns are having
> fuel systems, ignition systems, and compression ratios that allow us
> to use the fuel. With that, the fine point as indicated was not
> missed because experimentals don't abide by the same rules as
> commercially built airplanes. The point of our discussion was what
> engines might be able to use auto gas safely in our RV airframes.
> Based on tests in other airframes, some higher compression ratio
> engines are good candidates for auto gas in our RVs, as well. We just
> need to use gas with a higher antiknock value.
>
> One of the advantages of building and flying experimentals is that
> we're supposed to experiment. I did test flights with auto fuel to be
> sure it works in my RV. It did; so, I use it. Knowing that I can up
> the compression and still possibly use premium auto gas gives me more
> options for my next RV. Think of it this way. As we fly more and
> more hours on auto fuels, the FAA may open the doors more for those
> who fly commerically built aircraft. Not a bad idea, huh? Our
> experiences will be quite helpful as 100LL becomes a thing of the
> past. :-)
>
> By the way, the only difference I've encountered between having the
> STCs for my two previous airplanes and my RV is the paperwork. Or,
> should I say the lack of it on the RV. I have a placard at the fuel
> cap that indicates 100LL or 87 antiknock fuels. I had to fill out
> paperwork, put placards at the tanks, and put tags on the engines for
> the STCs. I also had to pay for the STCs, which were well worth it.
> I played it somewhat smart when I did the fuel system on my RV. I
> made it almost identical to the one that was on my AA-5A Cheetah that
> was allowed the STC. So far, no complaints and much savings.
>
> Jim Sears in KY
> RV-6A N198JS (Scooter)
> RV-7A #70317 (One of these days)
> EAA Tech Counselor
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tru Trak ADI Pilot II |
Take your cash to Oshkosh. You can many times get good prices for cash
when visiting Oshkosh. Sometimes you can have them ship it to your
house and not have to pay the sales tax.
----- Original Message -----
From: PGLong@aol.com
To: Rv-list@matronics.com ; rv4-list@matronics.com ;
RV-4@yahoogroups.com ; avionics-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:02 PM
Subject: RV-List: Tru Trak ADI Pilot II
I'm interested in purchasing a Tru Trak ADI Pilot II. Does anyone
sell at a better price than what is advertised? Willing to pay by check
so no credit card charges to the lucky seller. Who has had the best
service on Tru Trak items?...Maybe I should wait for Oshkosh. Any
comments?
Pat Long
PGLong@aol.com
N120PL
RV4
Bay City, Michigan
3CM
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| From: | "Greg@itmack" <greg@itmack.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Leaking brakes |
Can someone explain "double flared" as opposed to the single flare?
Perhaps a link to a picture or 2 would help.
Thanks Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: John D.Heath
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
If you're talking about the brake line, are the double flared? If they
aren't, double flair them. If they are, they make soft copper washers
that are meant to take care of the same kind of problem in air
conditioner systems. Auto parts stores have them. If you're sure its the
fittings, good but it might not hurt to look at the calipers and make
sure the pistons are not inverted, exposing the "O" rings. Some came
from the manufacturer that way.
Good Luck
John D.
----- Original Message -----
From: dwhite17@columbus.rr.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Anyone got any good ideas on how to stop leaking brake cylinders?
All four are leaking a tiny bit at the lower fitting. I first installed
them without any pipe dope. then I drained the brake lines, cleaned the
fittings and reinstalled with prematex sealant and they still leak a
tiny bit.
Ideas please!
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| Subject: | Re: LSI mag covers |
--> RV-List message posted by: John Huft <rv8@lazy8.net>
Yes, I first installed mine without the gasket as spec'd. They leaked.
Then I used the gasket...no more leaks.
John
Doug Weiler wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Doug Weiler" <dcw@mnwing.org>
>
> Greetings all:
>
> I have recently installed dual LSI electronic ignition in my RV-4. I
> installed the mag opening covers just as Klaus recommended with no
> gasket. I used my usual Aviation Form-A-Gasket as a sealant but the
> covers are leaking oil.
>
> Any suggestions on sealing these better? Did anyone use a gasket?
>
> Doug
> N722DW, 290 hours
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
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I'm building an RV7. Anyone have experience with the Firewall Forward kit
from Van's, or is it better to piece meal?
Thanks
John
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I don't believe it has been made clear exactly where they are leaking.
However, since you mentioned pipe dope, it would seem to be the pipe
threads. Try some EZ Turn and tighten them as much as you dare. Double
flaring is not generally necessary, and in this case it is not relevant, as
there are not metal lines coming from the bottoms of the brake master
cylinders anyway.
Alex Peterson
RV6-A N66AP 758 hours
Maple Grove, MN
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg@itmack
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Can someone explain "double flared" as opposed to the single flare? Perhaps
a link to a picture or 2 would help.
Thanks Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: John <mailto:altoq@cebridge.net> D.Heath
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
If you're talking about the brake line, are the double flared? If they
aren't, double flair them. If they are, they make soft copper washers that
are meant to take care of the same kind of problem in air conditioner
systems. Auto parts stores have them. If you're sure its the fittings, good
but it might not hurt to look at the calipers and make sure the pistons are
not inverted, exposing the "O" rings. Some came from the manufacturer that
way.
Good Luck
John D.
----- Original Message -----
From: dwhite17@columbus.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Anyone got any good ideas on how to stop leaking brake cylinders? All
four are leaking a tiny bit at the lower fitting. I first installed them
without any pipe dope. then I drained the brake lines, cleaned the fittings
and reinstalled with prematex sealant and they still leak a tiny bit.
Ideas please!
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| Subject: | Re: Leaking brakes |
/ \ _ _
\ / \ / \\ //
! ! ! ! ! !
A special flairing tool is used in two steps. The first step might be
said to make a bubble like form at the end of the line. The second step
folds the end most portion back inside the tube, making the flair its
self double thickness. Hope this comes through.
John D.
----- Original Message -----
From: Greg@itmack
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Can someone explain "double flared" as opposed to the single flare?
Perhaps a link to a picture or 2 would help.
Thanks Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: John D.Heath
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaking brakes
If you're talking about the brake line, are the double flared? If
they aren't, double flair them. If they are, they make soft copper
washers that are meant to take care of the same kind of problem in air
conditioner systems. Auto parts stores have them. If you're sure its the
fittings, good but it might not hurt to look at the calipers and make
sure the pistons are not inverted, exposing the "O" rings. Some came
from the manufacturer that way.
Good Luck
John D.
----- Original Message -----
From: dwhite17@columbus.rr.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: RV-List: Leaking brakes
Anyone got any good ideas on how to stop leaking brake cylinders?
All four are leaking a tiny bit at the lower fitting. I first
installed them without any pipe dope. then I drained the brake lines,
cleaned the fittings and reinstalled with prematex sealant and they
still leak a tiny bit.
Ideas please!
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--> RV-List message posted by: "Puckett, Gregory [DENTK]" <Greg.Puckett@united.com>
This is starting to seem a little ridiculous but,
Does anyone know of a commonly available computer font that meets all of the requirements
of FAR 45.29 for registration marks?
Specifically, the way I read it, they want the width of all characters to be two
thirds of the height except for 1's W's and M's. I neglected to get somebody
to make me a stencil and I need to finish spraying the trim and clear tomorrow.
I would like to paint the reg. marking rather than have the stick on.
I would like to just cut my own stencil from a product called "frisket film" and
paint the number on but I'm worried that if I don't meet the letter of the regs
I could be screwed.
Has anyone ever run in to a problem with a DAR over this?
Thanks,
Greg Puckett
Elizabeth, CO
RV-8 (finally getting close)
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| Subject: | Re: N-Number font |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Has anyone ever run in to a problem with a DAR over this?
Greg, you may want to check with your DAR. Recently a DAR in our area
required an RV to put on the 12 in. letters because the builder said the
plane was capable of more than 200 mph.
Dale
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| Subject: | Re: Leaking brakes |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
Can someone recommend a tool for this? Maybe a link?
[quote="altoq(at)cebridge.net"] / __
/ / \ //
! ! ! ! ! !
A special flairing tool is used in two steps. The first step might be said to
make a bubble like form at the end of the line. The second step folds the end
most portionback inside the tube, making the flair its self double thickness.Hope
this comes through.
John D.
> ---
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Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=39506#39506
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If you're a first-time builder and you're going mostly "stock" in terms
of your engine/carb/FI/induction/baffles/oil & fuel systems, the FWF kit
will be of high value (convenience in terms of $time$ saved). What type
of engine are you hanging?
The more you stray from Van's stock setups, the less useful the FWF kit
will be imho. For example, if you were going with a Sam James cowl &
plenum, the FWF kit wouldn't be a 100% perfect match for you.
Next time around, I will still probably order the FWF kit but I will
most likely omit several items that I would customize.
I know this is kinda vague, but it really depends on your setup.
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (933 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: John Furey
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:58 PM
Subject: RV-List: FF Kit
I'm building an RV7. Anyone have experience with the Firewall Forward
kit from Van's, or is it better to piece meal?
Thanks
John
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| Subject: | Re: N-Number font |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Dan Checkoway" <dan@rvproject.com>
No offense to the DARs on this list, but don't let the DAR push you around.
Here's the reg...from Part 45.29:
(iii) Marks at least 3 inches high may be displayed on an aircraft for which
the FAA has issued an experimental certificate under 21.191 (d), 21.191
(g), or 21.191 (i) of this chapter to operate as an exhibition aircraft, an
amateur-built aircraft, or a light-sport aircraft when the maximum cruising
speed of the aircraft does not exceed 180 knots CAS;
Then the question is...who determines the aircraft's maximum cruising speed?
Is it YOU the builder, or is it Van's, the kit manufacturer? How can you
possibly know your aircraft's max cruising speed prior to actually flying
it? I guess they have to take Van's specs then...
And if so...
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-7per.htm
75% Cruise for an RV-7 with the biggest powerplant Van's "endorses" for the
design...200hp solo weight 75% cruise is 207 mph = 180 knots. But guess
what?! It ain't gonna be INDICATING (calibrating) anywhere near that. CAS
will be waaaay less than 180 knots.
So even for the RV-8 which Van's specs out at 212 mph (184 knots) at solo
weight 75% cruise, CAS won't be anywhere near 180 at 8000'.
The key is "CAS" here. That's what the reg says. If the DAR is gonna push
you on it, follow the reg to the letter!!!
)_( Dan
RV-7 N714D (933 hours)
http://www.rvproject.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: N-Number font
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing" <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Has anyone ever run in to a problem with a DAR over this?
>
>
> Greg, you may want to check with your DAR. Recently a DAR in our area
> required an RV to put on the 12 in. letters because the builder said the
> plane was capable of more than 200 mph.
> Dale
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N-Number font |
--> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior (rv7)" <rv7@b4.ca>
On 19:09:59 2006-06-08 "Puckett, Gregory [DENTK]" <Greg.Puckett@united.com>
wrote:
> Specifically, the way I read it, they want the width of all
> characters to be two thirds of the height except for 1's W's and M's. I
> neglected to get somebody to make me a stencil and I need to finish
> spraying the trim and clear tomorrow. I would like to paint the reg.
> marking rather than have the stick on.
If nothing else, having a set of vinyl letters made first, in the same font
that you would have used for painting, would let you see how it looks
before committing to the final layout.
And it may not be first in your mind right now, but having removable
letters may make your plane a little more attractive down the road to a
potential purchaser (if someone wants to re-reg it with different numbers,
or move it to Canada, etc.)
-Rob
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| Subject: | Re: N-Number font |
--> RV-List message posted by: Paul Besing <pbesing@yahoo.com>
There goes some of those leave it up to the DAR
things...I've seen plenty of RV's with the small
numbers on them...I'm sure they are over 200 MPH quite
often! My -6A had 4" temporary hardware store numbers
on it before it was painted...I'm pretty sure it went
over 200 MPH on many occasions.
Paul Besing
--- Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "Dale Ensing"
> <densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Has anyone ever run in to a problem with a DAR over
> this?
>
>
> Greg, you may want to check with your DAR. Recently
> a DAR in our area
> required an RV to put on the 12 in. letters because
> the builder said the
> plane was capable of more than 200 mph.
> Dale
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| Subject: | Re: N-Number font |
--> RV-List message posted by: Mickey Coggins <mick-matronics@rv8.ch>
Dan Checkoway wrote:
> (iii) Marks at least 3 inches high may be displayed on an aircraft for
> which the FAA has issued an experimental certificate under 21.191 (d),
> 21.191 (g), or 21.191 (i) of this chapter to operate as an exhibition
> aircraft, an amateur-built aircraft, or a light-sport aircraft when the
> maximum cruising speed of the aircraft does not exceed 180 knots CAS;
There's also the issue of international flying. Not sure if that
counts for Caribbean, Canada or Mexico. What do you guys who cross
the borders regularly do? Temporary 12" numbers? Anyone had
their wrist slapped for not having the big numbers on their RV?
--
Mickey Coggins
http://www.rv8.ch/
#82007 finishing
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