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0. 12:14 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle)
1. 07:59 AM - Dual Trim wiring (bigdog@bentwing.com)
2. 08:26 AM - Re: Dual Trim wiring (Denis Walsh)
3. 08:50 AM - Re: Dual Trim wiring (Tcwtech)
4. 09:41 AM - Re: Dual Trim wiring (Carl Froehlich)
5. 12:59 PM - Re: Dual Trim wiring (bigdog@bentwing.com)
6. 01:10 PM - Re: Dual Trim wiring (bigdog@bentwing.com)
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Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! |
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Subject: | Dual Trim wiring |
I need to hook up the trim wiring on my -6 and am looking for relay/control
ler options. I've got trim switches (ail & elev) on both sticks. I picked
up a Ariel mixer box some time ago that will isolate the dual trim. I just
discovered it's too big to mount between the seat ribs where I'd like to mo
unt it. It also doesn't address speed control. I've got a couple Matronics
speed control modules and could wire them with the mixer but it gets to be
a bit of a rats nest of wiring. So I'm looking for other options. I know a
bout TCW Safety-Trim but it looks like it's only set up for one stick. What
else is out there? Thanks.
Regards,
Greg Young
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Subject: | Re: Dual Trim wiring |
I have used a matronics module for my elevator trim using two switches
and it has worked very well for sixteen years. I have never used the
speed control function. I find the trim is too slow at approach speeds
and too fast at cruise. Just takes a little getting used to.
It seems to me you could scrap the other box and use the two matronics
boxes in your system. You can use as many trim switches as you want
with the matronics, without relay decks. There is no need for a mixer,
whoever trims first wins. Those little boxes can go anywhere. Mine is
glued on the airplane side near the pilot's left leg.
BEWARE if you do this. Note that the wiring of the stick switches is
dramatically different for matronics than for using relays. Just follow
Matronics directions. You know how I learned this.
Disclaimer. I know nothing about the mixer you describe, or the TCW
unit. I do feel it is important to have a really quick way to disable
the trim system. I have a pullable circuit breaker for this. One for
each side would might be better.
DLW
On 15Nov, 2013, at 8:58 , bigdog@bentwing.com wrote:
> I need to hook up the trim wiring on my -6 and am looking for
relay/controller options. I=92ve got trim switches (ail & elev) on both
sticks. I picked up a Ariel mixer box some time ago that will isolate
the dual trim. I just discovered it=92s too big to mount between the
seat ribs where I=92d like to mount it. It also doesn=92t address speed
control. I=92ve got a couple Matronics speed control modules and could
wire them with the mixer but it gets to be a bit of a rats nest of
wiring. So I=92m looking for other options. I know about TCW Safety-Trim
but it looks like it=92s only set up for one stick. What else is out
there? Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Young
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Dual Trim wiring |
Our TCW trim controller works with two sticks, no extra wiring/relays requir
ed. All switches just wire in parallel.
Bob
TCW.
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On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:58 AM, "bigdog@bentwing.com" <bigdog@bentwing.com> wr
ote:
> I need to hook up the trim wiring on my -6 and am looking for relay/contro
ller options. I=99ve got trim switches (ail & elev) on both sticks. I
picked up a Ariel mixer box some time ago that will isolate the dual trim. I
just discovered it=99s too big to mount between the seat ribs where I
=99d like to mount it. It also doesn=99t address speed control. I
=99ve got a couple Matronics speed control modules and could wire them
with the mixer but it gets to be a bit of a rats nest of wiring. So I
=99m looking for other options. I know about TCW Safety-Trim but it looks li
ke it=99s only set up for one stick. What else is out there? Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Young
>
>
>
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Subject: | Dual Trim wiring |
Best approach - use the Safety Trim unit and add a switch on the panel to
toggle the common wire to the stick top hat between Pilot and Copilot. This
establishes:
. Installed backup if the pilot switch jams/sticks. The panel
switch then isolates the failed pilot stick top hat and you continue as
normal using the co-pilot stick top hat.
. Allows for you to not have a non-pilot in the co-pilot seat mess
with the trim.
Use a DPDT switch and put the flap common wire on the other terminal to get
the same benefits. In other words the one switch transfers both flap and
trim control between the pilot and co-pilot.
Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bigdog@bentwing.com
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:58 AM
Subject: RV-List: Dual Trim wiring
I need to hook up the trim wiring on my -6 and am looking for
relay/controller options. I've got trim switches (ail & elev) on both
sticks. I picked up a Ariel mixer box some time ago that will isolate the
dual trim. I just discovered it's too big to mount between the seat ribs
where I'd like to mount it. It also doesn't address speed control. I've got
a couple Matronics speed control modules and could wire them with the mixer
but it gets to be a bit of a rats nest of wiring. So I'm looking for other
options. I know about TCW Safety-Trim but it looks like it's only set up for
one stick. What else is out there? Thanks.
Regards,
Greg Young
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Subject: | Dual Trim wiring |
Thanks. I forgot that the Governor had that relay function. It's been a lon
g time since I looked at it and I was just thinking of the speed control.
I should RTFM.
Regards,
Greg Young
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matro
nics.com] On Behalf Of Denis Walsh
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Dual Trim wiring
I have used a matronics module for my elevator trim using two switches and
it has worked very well for sixteen years. I have never used the speed con
trol function. I find the trim is too slow at approach speeds and too fast
at cruise. Just takes a little getting used to.
It seems to me you could scrap the other box and use the two matronics boxe
s in your system. You can use as many trim switches as you want with the m
atronics, without relay decks. There is no need for a mixer, whoever trims
first wins. Those little boxes can go anywhere. Mine is glued on the air
plane side near the pilot's left leg.
BEWARE if you do this. Note that the wiring of the stick switches is drama
tically different for matronics than for using relays. Just follow Matroni
cs directions. You know how I learned this.
Disclaimer. I know nothing about the mixer you describe, or the TCW unit.
I do feel it is important to have a really quick way to disable the trim
system. I have a pullable circuit breaker for this. One for each side wo
uld might be better.
DLW
On 15Nov, 2013, at 8:58 , bigdog@bentwing.com<mailto:bigdog@bentwing.com> w
rote:
I need to hook up the trim wiring on my -6 and am looking for relay/control
ler options. I've got trim switches (ail & elev) on both sticks. I picked
up a Ariel mixer box some time ago that will isolate the dual trim. I just
discovered it's too big to mount between the seat ribs where I'd like to mo
unt it. It also doesn't address speed control. I've got a couple Matronics
speed control modules and could wire them with the mixer but it gets to be
a bit of a rats nest of wiring. So I'm looking for other options. I know a
bout TCW Safety-Trim but it looks like it's only set up for one stick. What
else is out there? Thanks.
Regards,
Greg Young
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