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Fri 02/13/09


Total Messages Posted: 19



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:27 AM - Re: Torque value for boss mount planepower alternator (Michael Wellenzohn)
     2. 02:36 AM - Re: LIVINGROOM ASSEMBLY SHOP (Michael Wellenzohn)
     3. 04:00 AM - Re: LIVINGROOM ASSEMBLY SHOP (nukeflyboy)
     4. 04:12 AM - Re: Balance wheel pants ? (nukeflyboy)
     5. 05:20 AM - Re: Balance wheel pants ? (orchidman)
     6. 06:02 AM - Re: Re: Balance wheel pants ? (Tim Olson)
     7. 06:25 AM - Re: Balance wheel pants ? (Perry, Phil)
     8. 06:51 AM - Re: Balance wheel pants ? (linn Walters)
     9. 07:13 AM - Re: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-upMatco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up (Jesse Saint)
    10. 08:23 AM - Re: weight & balance program (Nictech)
    11. 08:42 AM - Re: computer simulation of paint scheme (Nictech)
    12. 09:37 AM - Re: Re: weight & balance program (David Maib)
    13. 09:49 AM - Re: computer simulation of paint scheme (Lenny Iszak)
    14. 11:25 AM - Re: Re: weight & balance program (John Cox)
    15. 11:33 AM - Cowl Seal - Std Vans or low friction (AirMike)
    16. 11:33 AM - Re: Re: weight & balance program (jim@CombsFive.Com)
    17. 11:59 AM - Re: weight & balance program (Lenny Iszak)
    18. 02:53 PM - Gasket between airbox and fuel injection system (Michael Wellenzohn)
    19. 08:42 PM - Van's Aircraft passes 6,000 aircraft (Patrick ONeill)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:27:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Torque value for boss mount planepower alternator
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Thanks Brian, I also found after some research the required bolt torques on the B & C website. I believe that will be the same for planepower. 1.Mount alternator on engine case. Use the two bolts that are already in the bracket and bolt the bracket to the boss with the two 5/16" NC tapped holes. Torque the bolts to 110-150 in-lbs. Safety wire the bolts and bend the tabs up against the flat of the heads. 2.Mount the belt tension arm in the standard location. The bolt is taped to the belt tension arm. Install the other bolt (already on the alternator) through the slot in the tension arm. Michael 3.Install the belt (prop must be removed), adjust the tension of the belt, and tighten the two belt tension arm bolts to 110-150 in-lbs. Safety wire these two bolts also. 4.Tighten the long pivot bolt to 360-480 in-lbs. -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230070#230070


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    Time: 02:36:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: LIVINGROOM ASSEMBLY SHOP
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    I started building in a 2.5 room apartment and the size of the room I called my "workshop" was 96 sq ft. At least the workbench and the compressor fitted in there. See attached picture or website: www.wellenzohn.net Cheers Michael -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230071#230071 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_66_151.jpeg


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    Time: 04:00:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: LIVINGROOM ASSEMBLY SHOP
    From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
    Claudia and Martin Sutter built their first RV-6 in their living room - just rolled back the carpet and went to work. I built mine in the garage and stored all the finished pieces and some parts in the house: wing cradle and tail feathers in the bedroom, canopy and cowl in the girls' closets, etc. It made for some interesting conversation with visitors. RV-10 tail feathers were stored above the kitchen cabinets until we moved back to TX and now have a hanger in the back yard. That's the only way to go. Whatever you do, you better have her on board 100% or your life will be miserable. "When Momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy". -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230073#230073


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    Time: 04:12:28 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balance wheel pants ?
    From: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>
    Deems, There have been a few discussions on this with no definitive answers. Based on my experience with Cessna nose wheel shimmy I think it is worth doing, at least with the nose wheel though I will do all three. It isn't that hard to do and it does not have to be exact to a nanogram. You are looking for fore-aft balance, not top-bottom. Temporarily attach a rod to the wheel pant in line with the axle. Hang it between something and if the tail is heavy then epoxy some weight in the nose - or vise versa. You can make a good case that it is wasted effort on the mains since there have been no reports of shimmy or damaged wheel pants that I am aware. There have been so many issues with the nose wheel that it may be good insurance. -------- Dave Moore RV-6 flying RV-10 QB - cabin top/fiberglass hell Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230074#230074


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    Time: 05:20:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Balance wheel pants ?
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    Deems Davis wrote: > I remember seeing a writeup some where about someone who had not only balanced they wheels, but also their wheel pants. I tried the archieve search but came up short, anybody know anything about how you would balance wheel pants??? > > Deems Davis # 406 > 'getting close to 1st engine start' > http://deemsrv10.com/ Deems, Tim has talked about balancing both the tires and pants. The link to the balancing is http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/maintenance/20080503/index.html -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 Engine, Fiberglass - SB (N2GB registered) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230078#230078


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    Time: 06:02:33 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Balance wheel pants ?
    Dave, you're right on with this. I don't remember if I have yet balanced my mains. I don't think I have, but I did on the nose. If you have one side way heavier than the other, then the arm of the weight will give it the tendency to really put some action into the movement as you go over bumps or get other vibrations. I know others who have seen shimmy problems go away after balancing. As you said, it doesn't have to be exact...just getting them more evened out is good. For what it's worth, I don't think I did the mains (I probably should, and will) but I have had some shimmy and was surprised one day when John C. said he noticed that it was one of my mains that was shimmying, kind of tipping up and down, forward and aft. I'm sure balancing the tire helped, but I think balancing the wheel fairing would have been a good idea too. I just need to get out there and do it this year while I'm repacking my wheel bearings. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying nukeflyboy wrote: > > Deems, > > There have been a few discussions on this with no definitive answers. > Based on my experience with Cessna nose wheel shimmy I think it is > worth doing, at least with the nose wheel though I will do all three. > It isn't that hard to do and it does not have to be exact to a > nanogram. You are looking for fore-aft balance, not top-bottom. > > Temporarily attach a rod to the wheel pant in line with the axle. > Hang it between something and if the tail is heavy then epoxy some > weight in the nose - or vise versa. > > You can make a good case that it is wasted effort on the mains since > there have been no reports of shimmy or damaged wheel pants that I am > aware. There have been so many issues with the nose wheel that it > may be good insurance. >


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    Time: 06:25:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Balance wheel pants ?
    From: "Perry, Phil" <Phil.Perry@netapp.com>
    Hey Deems, This is a write up that has stuck with me. I plan on replicating it. http://home.mindspring.com/~rv6/RV6site/wheel%20pants.htm Phil -----Original Message----- From: Deems Davis [mailto:deemsdavis@cox.net] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:11 PM Subject: RV10-List: Balance wheel pants ? I've got a note on my 'to-do list' to balance the wheels and wheel pants. I remember seeing a writeup some where about someone who had not only balanced they wheels, but also their wheel pants. I tried the archieve search but came up short, anybody know anything about how you would balance wheel pants??? Deems Davis # 406 'getting close to 1st engine start' http://deemsrv10.com/


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    Time: 06:51:42 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Balance wheel pants ?
    First, the reason. Balancing the wheelpants fore/aft takes the stress off of the mounting hardware and the pant during rough operations Second ... the how. Make another hole opposite the outboard bolt hole, run a rod through the hole and balance ..... Just get it close since any position other than 'completely level' will unbalance it due to the pant CG. Epoxy and some lead shot work great when you find out how much you need and where you need it. Also remember that it's additional weight ..... Observation: I've never like the tubular gear on the RVs ..... they look horrible rolling over rough ground/ramps ..... the walk, not roll. :-P . But they do seem to stand up, so who am I to complain. Linn Deems Davis wrote: > > I've got a note on my 'to-do list' to balance the wheels and wheel > pants. I remember seeing a writeup some where about someone who had > not only balanced they wheels, but also their wheel pants. I tried the > archieve search but came up short, anybody know anything about how you > would balance wheel pants??? > > > Deems Davis # 406 > 'getting close to 1st engine start' > http://deemsrv10.com/ > >


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    Time: 07:13:32 AM PST US
    From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: Matco RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-upMatco
    RV-10 Nosewheel Axle replacement write-up I'll give you that. It is nice to be able to set the preload without shortening the axle. It is also nice to have a little bigger bearing surface on the face of the bearing. But, with all that said, I really don't think Van's 2nd take at it is broken. The original steel spacers were not adequate, which Van's at least partially acknowledged with the new part, although I don't know if they have started shortening the axle to provide the preload necessary to keep the bearings from spinning on the axle. N256H had a shimmy in that area because of that. But, since replacing them with the aluminum spacers, there appears to be no more problem. I think most shimmy is coming from the fork pivot being too loose and the need for spacers in the upper shock mount for the gear leg. do not archive Jesse Saint


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    Time: 08:23:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: weight & balance program
    From: "Nictech" <nyenhuis@eastlink.ca>
    I am new to this forum so I hope that I'm doing this right. On the Van's website on the links page is Greg Hale. http://74.86.118.26/~ikkfqrxr/rv10_home.html He has a weight and balance program that looks pretty good. I am still building the empannage so I have no idea if it is good. Let me know how it works out for you. -------- Nick Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230109#230109


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    Time: 08:42:07 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: computer simulation of paint scheme
    From: "Nictech" <nyenhuis@eastlink.ca>
    I don't know how this software is but it looks interesting. http://www.airplanecolor.com/ I haven't installed it yet because I am just starting my project and if I don't purchase the full program, I want the 15 days when I am considering paint. -------- Nick RV10 Building Nova Scotia, Canada Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230113#230113


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    Time: 09:37:58 AM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: weight & balance program
    I just loaded Greg's W&B program yesterday. It is really nice. I now have it on my EFB so I will have access to it in the airplane. There are some very smart people out there!! David Maib 40559 Flying On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Nictech wrote: I am new to this forum so I hope that I'm doing this right. On the Van's website on the links page is Greg Hale. http:// 74.86.118.26/~ikkfqrxr/rv10_home.html He has a weight and balance program that looks pretty good. I am still building the empannage so I have no idea if it is good. Let me know how it works out for you. -------- Nick Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230109#230109


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    Time: 09:49:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: computer simulation of paint scheme
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    Yep, this is the one I was talking about. They now have an RV-10 model in the software. For $15 it's a no brainer... You can move the airplane around in 3D and see how it looks from different angles. http://www.airplanecolor.com/aircraft/rv-10/index.htm Lenny #40803 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230124#230124


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    Time: 11:25:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: weight & balance program
    From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    David, Boy was a trip on Greg's webpage worth every minute. No Plastic aircraft can match the features, detail and quality of construction Greg has built into his RV-10. That bar just gets higher and higher. Nick - thanks for posting the link. John do not archive but do take a stroll to the link below. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Maib Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:36 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: weight & balance program I just loaded Greg's W&B program yesterday. It is really nice. I now have it on my EFB so I will have access to it in the airplane. There are some very smart people out there!! David Maib 40559 Flying On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Nictech wrote: I am new to this forum so I hope that I'm doing this right. On the Van's website on the links page is Greg Hale. http:// 74.86.118.26/~ikkfqrxr/rv10_home.html He has a weight and balance program that looks pretty good. I am still building the empannage so I have no idea if it is good. Let me know how it works out for you. -------- Nick Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230109#230109


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    Time: 11:33:23 AM PST US
    Subject: Cowl Seal - Std Vans or low friction
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    Is anyone out there using the "Cowl Saver" brand of cowl seal. You can buy it direct or from Aircraft Spruce. I am at that point and trying to decide? Is the stuff that great? Feed back appreciated. Link to the Spruce web site on cowl saver http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/baffleSeal.php -------- OSH '08 or Bust (busted) be there in &quot;09 Q/B Kit - wiring and FWF Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230137#230137


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    Time: 11:33:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: weight & balance program
    From: jim@CombsFive.Com
    You might take a look at the W&B provided in the Advanced Flight Systems EFIS. W&B is a no brainer for EVERY flight! Jim C N312F - Flying Do Not Archive I just loaded Greg's W&B program yesterday. It is really nice. I now have it on my EFB so I will have access to it in the airplane. There are some very smart people out there!! David Maib 40559 Flying On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Nictech wrote: <nyenhuis@eastlink.ca> I am new to this forum so I hope that I'm doing this right. On the Van's website on the links page is Greg Hale. http:// 74.86.118.26/~ikkfqrxr/rv10_home.html He has a weight and balance program that looks pretty good. I am still building the empannage so I have no idea if it is good. Let me know how it works out for you. -------- Nick Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230109#230109 - The RV10-List Email Forum - Features Navigator to browse Un/Subscription, Chat, FAQ, --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com - List Contribution Web Site - generous support! Admin.


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    Time: 11:59:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: weight & balance program
    From: "Lenny Iszak" <lenard@rapiddecision.com>
    I agree, John. I'm so looking forward to seeing his airplane. Hey Greg, Are you going to make OSH this year? Lenny Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230143#230143


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    Time: 02:53:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Gasket between airbox and fuel injection system
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    I didn't find anywhere a remark that a gasket is required between the airbox and the fuel injection system. is that correct? See attached picture. Kind regards Michael -------- RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=230163#230163 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0231_741.jpg


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    Time: 08:42:05 PM PST US
    From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
    Subject: Van's Aircraft passes 6,000 aircraft
    The 6000th was an RV-10 no less. http://www.aopa.org/aircraft/articles/2009/090212vansaircraft.html Patrick #40715 Do Not Archive




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