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1. 03:54 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
2. 04:20 AM - Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? (Jesse Saint)
3. 04:33 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (David McNeill)
4. 04:33 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (Chris and Susie)
5. 05:27 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (Jesse Saint)
6. 05:51 AM - Doors (Wayne Hadath)
7. 05:52 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (Bob Leffler)
8. 06:23 AM - Re: Doors (ricksked@embarqmail.com)
9. 06:28 AM - Re: Question for the door experts (johngoodman)
10. 06:39 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
11. 06:41 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (Rick Sked)
12. 06:50 AM - Re: Question for the door experts (Les Kearney)
13. 06:59 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (woxofswa)
14. 07:08 AM - Re: Question for the door experts (Rick Sked)
15. 07:11 AM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (Rene Felker)
16. 07:21 AM - Re: Question for the door experts (Kelly McMullen)
17. 07:27 AM - Quick Build update? (Kelly McMullen)
18. 08:15 AM - Re: Quick Build update? (Bob Leffler)
19. 08:28 AM - Re: Quick Build update? (Kelly McMullen)
20. 08:46 AM - IO-540 Available (tom.on.the.road@juno.com)
21. 04:33 PM - Re: Front wheel service (pilotdds@aol.com)
22. 05:53 PM - Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts (Don McDonald)
23. 06:12 PM - Upper intersection leg fairing (orchidman)
24. 07:05 PM - Re: Upper intersection leg fairing (Deems Davis)
25. 07:05 PM - Re: Question for the door experts (Tim Lewis)
26. 08:56 PM - Question for the door experts - Redux (Les Kearney)
27. 09:50 PM - Re: Question for the door experts - Redux (Deems Davis)
28. 10:40 PM - Re: Upper intersection leg fairing (Don McDonald)
29. 11:40 PM - Re: Upper intersection leg fairing (Michael Wellenzohn)
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| Subject: | Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency amongst
the wing attachment bolts?
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage assemblie
s together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar attachment bolts a
re really tight, whilst others slip into the holes fine. All the bigger bo
lts are fine.
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm loat
h to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through spars.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount? |
That's definitely a better solution if you need flexibility down the
road.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
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On May 14, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all of the great pics and stuff along the way guys.
> That Van's plate would come in handy for mounting a bunch of
> things. Wish they'd have had them when I built mine. But, it
> wouldn't have been perfect for my needs anyway. I did get it
> done last night though, and here is the result:
>
> http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20090513/index.html
>
> The big difference is, I needed something easily removable.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
>
>
> Ben Westfall wrote:
>> I modified one of the strobe/elt mount brackets to fit along the
>> floor
>> attaching it to two of the J-Channel. I cut the end off parallel
>> to the
>> J-Channel and used a piece of angle pop-riveted to the strobe
>> bracket. I suppose it would have been pretty easy to make one from
>> scratch but making
>> the bends is sorta tough with hand seamers. I don't have any kind
>> of a
>> brake. Van's is close (20min) for me so no shipping. The brackets
>> are
>> pretty cheap.
>> Picture attached.
>> -Ben
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 12:49 PM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Photos of Van's Strobe sidewall mount?
>> mounting the NavWorx receiver semi-permanently.
>> I don't mind riveting into the floors stringers, but I don't have
>> a lot of floor room left in the area and i'm hoping to do it
>> without any external painted rivets to deal with. I've got
>> one method that I may use instead, using their included bracket,
>> but for many installs I think a nice sidewall install like
>> the strobe pack would be great. Things have been working
>> great with their box, so it's time to move it from a more
>> temporary place to something that I'll use in the long term.
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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| Subject: | Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
Only if this is the final install of the wings
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:51 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
Michael
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency amongst
the wing attachment bolts?
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage assemblies
together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar attachment bolts are
really tight, whilst others slip into the holes fine. All the bigger bolts
are fine.
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm loath
to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through spars.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
Yes Patrick so in the freezer for a night then a "slight tap" with a
small rubber mallat.
Chris
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----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Pulis
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 4:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency
amongst the wing attachment bolts?
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage
assemblies together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar
attachment bolts are really tight, whilst others slip into the holes
fine. All the bigger bolts are fine.
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm
loath to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through
spars.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
I agree. If it's just to pin them together, I just use a set of 3/8
bolts (4/wing) and hold it together with that. Some grease wouldn't
hurt either.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
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On May 15, 2009, at 7:29 AM, "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
> Only if this is the final install of the wings
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 3:51 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
>
> Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
>
>
> Michael
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> ] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
>
>
> Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency
> amongst the wing attachment bolts?
>
>
> I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage
> assemblies together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar
> attachment bolts are really tight, whilst others slip into the holes
> fine. All the bigger bolts are fine.
>
>
> If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as
> I'm loath to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry
> through spars.
>
>
> Many thanks in anticipation.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Patrick Pulis
>
> RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
>
> Adelaide, South Australia
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Les
There are numerous issues with the door, the least being the index holes not
being right. All fixable but troublesome. Try a search but if that does not
help there are many here on the list who have gone before.
Wayne
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| Subject: | Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
Since this is just a temporary installation to align the two spars, go to
your local aviation supply's(i.e. Home Depot, Lowes, Minard's, etc) bolt
dept and get some slightly undersized bolts. Leave the ones from Van's for
the final mounting on the wings.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency amongst
the wing attachment bolts?
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage assemblies
together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar attachment bolts are
really tight, whilst others slip into the holes fine. All the bigger bolts
are fine.
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm loath
to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through spars.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the door experts |
Les,
I just finished what you are talking about a few days ago. You are right, the window
index holes don't line up. I discovered the culprits were the top ones,
so I clecoed the bottom ones, pressed the halves together as best I could and
drilled new top ones.
As far as the fore and aft index hole tabs, I initially found similar issues, but
discovered the aft hole tab is the critical one. Be careful about the TWO holes
you can use on the aft tab. It's the lower one. If you cleco it first, the
front one will line up. At least it should.
One problem I had was I hadn't done a great job on cutting the canopy opening and
some of it needed a little last-minute trimming to get the doors in properly.
If you still have the tabs on, measure the distance between the two factory holes,
then measure the distance between the two fuselage holes. They should be the
same or very close (allowing for some curve).
When you get to the hinges, don't waste your time cutting 1/8" aluminum shims like
I did. Just use a couple of tongue depressors. All you're trying to do is
give the hinges some basic alignment and a little wiggle room.
Speaking of the hinges, make SURE you have properly identified each and every piece
as Left or Right. My door half ones had no markings and you have to look
very close to see the difference.
John
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| Subject: | Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
Sorry, I know better than to respond before my morning coffee. Everyone
is correct, if this is not a final assembly get some other bolts for the te
mp fits. The close tolerance bolts lose their close tolerance if they go i
n and out a couple times.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Since this is just a temporary installation to align the two spars, go to
your local aviation supply's(i.e. Home Depot, Lowes, Minard's, etc) bolt de
pt and get some slightly undersized bolts. Leave the ones from Van's for
the final mounting on the wings.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency amongst
the wing attachment bolts?
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage assemblie
s together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar attachment bolts a
re really tight, whilst others slip into the holes fine. All the bigger bo
lts are fine.
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm loat
h to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through spars.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
Use 4-1/2 by =C2-3/8 bolts, cut the threads off and grind =C2-a pointy/
rounded, polished edge. You will need these to do the wing install. The rea
son the bolts fit so tight is 1), they are close tolerance and=C2-2) I do
n't think=C2-Vans took=C2-into consideration the thousandth of an inch
the anodizing adds the the inside diameter of the bored hole in the spar.
I used the actual bolts to do the assembly. The hardware bolts are just a t
ad to small for my personal alignment toleramces.=C2-When you do the fina
l install freezing the bolts and lubing only the shank=C2-portion of the
bolt helps the install. It is almost impossible to get them aligned and ins
talled =C2-without using the modified 3/8 bolts you made to align the hol
es. =C2-
Rick Sked
N246RS
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From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:57:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Since this is just a temporary installation to align the two spars,=C2- g
o to your local aviation supply=99s(i.e. Home Depot, Lowes, Minard
=99s, etc) bolt dept and get some slightly undersized bolts.=C2-=C2-
Leave the ones from Van=99s for the final mounting on the wings.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency amongst
the wing attachment bolts?
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage assemblie
s together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar attachment bolts a
re really tight, whilst others slip into the holes fine.=C2- All the bigg
er bolts are fine.
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm loat
h to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through spars.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
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Hi Michael
Thanks for the comments.
/Rant on
I am beginning to question the value of Van=92s tech support. On more
than
one occasion I have gotten the =93I=92ve never heard of that before=94
only to
find that was not the case. It really ticks me off to vague or
non-answers
or non answers to specific questions. In the case of the doors, they
should
a) confirm that is a problem and b) give specific instructions as to how
to
deal with it. As a first time builder who has very limited local
support, I
expect to ask a lot of questions that may seem obvious to the master
builders at Van=92s. I don=92t expect to get a condescending attitude!
/Rant off
Cheers
Les
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: May-14-09 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Question for the door experts
Must be short term memory, I believe I had a similar conversation with
him a
couple months back. I just fit the door based on pictures and look
along
with making sure it had even spacing from the inside.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Question for the door experts
Hi
Well today I start on my doors. First I trimmed the door opening to
about
1/8=94 from the scribe lines. Then, as per the plans, I trimmed the door
halves and drilled the index holes. Well, the first problem was that the
window index holes didn=92t align ' two were off by =BD=94. Next I
found the
forward index hole did not match the hole left open on the forward fuse
skin. TRhe door index holes is high by at least a couple of inches
compared
to the hole in the fuse skin.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so how did you deal with
it? I
spoke to Ken Scott at Van=92s who mentioned that this was a first for
him. I
guess I am just lucky.
Cheers
Les
#40643 ' Covered in f/g dust
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>
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| Subject: | Re: Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
I used 1/8 hardware store bolts inside of common automotive fuel tubing, along
with some washers and wing nuts for assembly.
Fit perfectly in the smaller holes, held everything tight, kept the final assembly
bolts virgin, and didn't mar the inside of the holes.
Everything aligned up perfectly when joining the fuselage sections together later.
--------
Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, legacy build fuse in progress
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244128#244128
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the door experts |
I called Van's one time...that's all it took for me to realize I was pretty
much on my own except for this and VAF forums. If you happen to feel good
about yourself one day and think maybe a little too good, give Ken Scott a
call...when you hang up you will feel several different emotions,=C2- "Wh
at an A**hole" was my first emotional response. I had to call one other tim
e when they sent me two "right" parts and Joe took care of it but I had the
upper-hand, I didn't have a question for them to "not heard" of before. Jo
e was very nice and helpful...Maybe it's living with a violin player that a
scews ones personality.
Rick Sked
N246RS
Paint
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Les Kearney" < kearney @ shaw .ca>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:44:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Question for the door experts
Hi Michael
Thanks for the comments.
/Rant on
=C2-I am beginning to question the value of Van=99s tech support. O
n more than one occasion I have gotten the =9CI=99ve never hear
d of that before=9D only to find that was not the case. It really tic
ks me off to vague or non-answers or non answers to specific questions. In
the case of the doors, they should a) confirm that is a problem and b) give
specific instructions as to how to deal with it. As a first time builder w
ho has very limited local support, I expect to ask a lot of questions that
may seem obvious to the master builders at Van=99s. I don=99t e
xpect to get a condescending attitude!
/Rant off
Cheers
Les
From: owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics .com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server
@ matronics .com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: May-14-09 7:28 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Question for the door experts
Must be short term memory, I believe I had a similar conversation with him
a couple months back.=C2- I just fit the door based on pictures and look
along with making sure it had even spacing from the inside.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@ matronics .com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server
@ matronics .com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Question for the door experts
Hi=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2-
Well today I start on my doors. First I trimmed the door opening to about 1
/8=9D from the scribe lines. Then, as per the plans, I trimmed the do
or halves and drilled the index holes. Well, the first problem was that the
window index holes didn=99t align =93 two were off by =C2=BD
=9D. Next I found the forward index hole did not match the hole left
open on the forward fuse skin. TRhe door index holes is high by at least a
couple of inches compared to the hole in the fuse skin.
Has anyone else run into this problem and if so how did you deal with it?
=C2- I spoke to Ken Scott at Van=99s who mentioned that this was a
first for him. I guess I am just lucky.
Cheers
Les
#40643 =93 Covered in f/g dust =C2- =C2- =C2- http://www. matro
nics .com/Navigator?RV10-List =C2- http://forums. matronics .com =C2-
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| Subject: | Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
One tip. When doing the final install, I had to tap the bolts in. I
used a small piece of hard rubber and my rivet gun with a flat set. Low
pressure..tap tap tap. I started with a rubber mallet, but it
is hard to swing. The only caution with the rivet gun is to keep the
taps light.
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Use 4-1/2 by 3/8 bolts, cut the threads off and grind a pointy/rounded,
polished edge. You will need these to do the wing install. The reason
the bolts fit so tight is 1), they are close tolerance and 2) I don't
think Vans took into consideration the thousandth of an inch the
anodizing adds the the inside diameter of the bored hole in the spar.
I used the actual bolts to do the assembly. The hardware bolts are just
a tad to small for my personal alignment toleramces. When you do the
final install freezing the bolts and lubing only the shank portion of
the bolt helps the install. It is almost impossible to get them aligned
and installed without using the modified 3/8 bolts you made to align the
holes.
Rick Sked
N246RS
Paint
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:57:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Since this is just a temporary installation to align the two spars, go
to your local aviation supply=99s(i.e. Home Depot, Lowes,
Minard=99s, etc) bolt dept and get some slightly undersized bolts.
Leave the ones from Van=99s for the final mounting on the wings.
Bob
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency
amongst the wing attachment bolts?
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage
assemblies together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar
attachment bolts are really tight, whilst others slip into the holes
fine. All the bigger bolts are fine.
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm
loath to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through
spars.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299 VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the door experts |
Les, it is just that there is so much better support right here. I
know I have yet to call Van's for support.
I suspect if they take a fair number of calls, their memory of
previous calls is poor. What would it cost Van's to have support staff
enter call subjects/answers into computer, so that is short time they
would have some real documentation of where problems exist and how to
fix them. When they take calls on anything from RV3 to RV12, they
probably don't develop much collective memory
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> /Rant on
>
>
> I am beginning to question the value of Vans tech support. On more than
> one occasion I have gotten the Ive never heard of that before only to
> find that was not the case. It really ticks me off to vague or non-answers
> or non answers to specific questions. In the case of the doors, they should
> a) confirm that is a problem and b) give specific instructions as to how to
> deal with it. As a first time builder who has very limited local support, I
> expect to ask a lot of questions that may seem obvious to the master
> builders at Vans. I dont expect to get a condescending attitude!
>
>
> /Rant off
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| Subject: | Quick Build update? |
I realize it has only been a month since Van's put out a letter on the
subject, hidden in an obscure area of their web site, but has anyone
had any updates?
IIRC there were a few folks that ordered in December that still don't
have their QB parts. Have they really shipped any RV-10 assemblies
from the Philippines yet?
It is going to be frustrating going through buildus interuptus for
lack of parts. With any luck they will have my stuff ready to ship the
week before OSH.
Kelly
40866
finishing tailcone
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There have been updates every couple days. The link is one the bottom of
their home page.
The update yesterday was that the RV-10 parts were on the boat and should be
in Van's hands in about a month.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Quick Build update?
I realize it has only been a month since Van's put out a letter on the
subject, hidden in an obscure area of their web site, but has anyone
had any updates?
IIRC there were a few folks that ordered in December that still don't
have their QB parts. Have they really shipped any RV-10 assemblies
from the Philippines yet?
It is going to be frustrating going through buildus interuptus for
lack of parts. With any luck they will have my stuff ready to ship the
week before OSH.
Kelly
40866
finishing tailcone
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| Subject: | Re: Quick Build update? |
Thanks, I had never scrolled to the bottom of their home page!
Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> There have been updates every couple days. The link is one the bottom of
> their home page.
>
> The update yesterday was that the RV-10 parts were on the boat and should be
> in Van's hands in about a month.
>
>
>
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Guys & Gals,
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| Subject: | Re: Front wheel service |
Thanks Mark that is exactly what I did-worked great with caution.
-----Original Message-----
From: Marcus Cooper <coop85@verizon.net>
Sent: Thu, 14 May 2009 9:29 pm
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Front wheel service
Looks like I=99m the first to respond Yes to your question.=C2- Ve
ry unconventional, but I found if I put a standard wheel chock forward of
the wheel, then put a 2x4 under the nut on the bottom of the fork, over
the chock and then sit on it I can lever the wheel up comfortably, remove
the wheel and then put boards under the fork while I work on the wheel.
=C2-
There are some stability concerns, but it=99s worked great for me us
ing a little caution.
=C2-
Marcus
=C2-
Do not archive.
=C2-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of pilotdds@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Front wheel service
=C2-
Anyone use the nut at the bottom of the fork as a jacking point to service
the front wheel?What are you guys doing to jack up the aircraft for front
wheel service.I am told weighting down the tail can cause damabe.thanks-j
im
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: RV10-List: EA10 electric aileron trim
=C2-
Do you mean the standard Van's RV-10 Electric Aileron Trim,=C2-
like Se
ction OP-38 in the plans? If so, it seems to work=C2-
real well...better than I figured it would. The fuel=C2-
imbalance, (and in my case the pilot vs. wife imbalance)=C2-
can be pretty significant, so I find I use it on most of=C2-
the X/C trips. No real complaints.=C2-
=C2-
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD=C2-
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> > I would like to find out how different their system on the pushrod is
> from the one I designed for my 6A. Maybe theirs is better - either way,
> trying to figure it out for my second offense.....=C2-
> > Ralph=C2-
> RV6A N822AR @ N06 still flying off the hours - now undergoing builders
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| Subject: | Tight Wing Attach Bolts |
For the final install, it also doesn't hurt to take the heat gun to each ho
le prior to sticking the bolt in.=C2- Also, lube up the bolt a bit.
Don
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, Rene Felker <rene@felker.com> wrote:
From: Rene Felker <rene@felker.com>
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
One tip.=C2- When doing the final install, I had to tap the bolts in.=C2
- I used a small piece of hard rubber and my rivet gun with a flat set.
=C2- Low pressure..tap tap tap.=C2- I started with a rubber ma
llet, but it is hard to swing.=C2- The only caution with the rivet gun is
to keep the taps light.
=C2-
Rene' Felker
RV-10 N423CF Flying
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:41 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
=C2-
Use 4-1/2 by=C2-3/8 bolts, cut the threads off and grind=C2-a pointy/ro
unded, polished edge. You will need these to do the wing install. The reaso
n the bolts fit so tight is 1), they are close tolerance and=C2-2) I don'
t think=C2-Vans took=C2-into consideration the thousandth of an inch th
e anodizing adds the the inside diameter of the bored hole in the spar.
=C2-
I used the actual bolts to do the assembly. The hardware bolts are just a t
ad to small for my personal alignment toleramces.=C2-When you do the fina
l install freezing the bolts and lubing only the shank=C2-portion of the
bolt helps the install. It is almost impossible to get them aligned and ins
talled=C2-without using the modified 3/8 bolts you made to align the hole
s.=C2-
=C2-
Rick Sked
N246RS
Paint
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Leffler" <rv@thelefflers.com>
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:57:12 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
Since this is just a temporary installation to align the two spars,=C2- g
o to your local aviation supply=99s(i.e. Home Depot, Lowes, Minard
=99s, etc) bolt dept and get some slightly undersized bolts.=C2-=C2-
Leave the ones from Van=99s for the final mounting on the wings.
=C2-
Bob
=C2-
=C2-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen)
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:51 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
=C2-
Throw the tight ones in the freezer overnight and give it a try again.
=C2-
Michael
=C2-
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tight Wing Attach Bolts
=C2-
Could anyone please tell me if they have experienced inconsistency amongst
the wing attachment bolts?
=C2-
I am up to Section 28 where you join the forward and mid fuselage assemblie
s together and I'm finding that some of the smaller spar attachment bolts a
re really tight, whilst others slip into the holes fine.=C2- All the bigg
er bolts are fine.
=C2-
If anyone has a realistic solution could you please let me know as I'm loat
h to do anything that will upset the holes in the carry through spars.
=C2-
Many thanks in anticipation.
=C2-
Regards
=C2-
Patrick Pulis
RV-10 #40299=C2-=C2-=C2- VH-XPP
Adelaide, South Australia
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| Subject: | Upper intersection leg fairing |
I can't find any comments on Tim's or Deems site about how you construct the upper
leg intersection fairing.
Are you applying the 2 layers of glass to each one? If so, are you doing it on
the plane? If so, how are you holding it to the fuselage while applying the
glass?
I have trimmed the fairings and drilled the 4 holes and clecoed them to the fuselage.
I am happy so far. Now how do you add the glass while the clecos are
holding the fairing in place? [Shocked]
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
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| Subject: | Re: Upper intersection leg fairing |
I built them up with additional layers of glass before fitting to the
fuse. here's a link to a photo album:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC03905.html
follow the links on the left of the page to additional pictures.
Here's links to the build log:
http://deemsrv10.com/48-10&48-11.htm
http://deemsrv10.com/48-11&48-12.htm
I later decided to attach the lower intersection fairings directly to
the wheel pants, Additional pictures:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC04260.html
Note: I haven't installed these on the 'finished; aircraft yet
Deems
N519PJ 16.5 hrs
orchidman wrote:
>
> I can't find any comments on Tim's or Deems site about how you construct the
upper leg intersection fairing.
> Are you applying the 2 layers of glass to each one? If so, are you doing it
on the plane? If so, how are you holding it to the fuselage while applying the
glass?
>
> I have trimmed the fairings and drilled the 4 holes and clecoed them to the fuselage.
I am happy so far. Now how do you add the glass while the clecos are
holding the fairing in place? [Shocked]
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> Final Finishing - SB
> (N2GB registered)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244232#244232
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the door experts |
That's a common reaction, and has been for more than a decade. I was
warned about this individual before I bought my first RV kit (mid
1990s). I learned to ask for somebody else. Anybody else.
--
Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
RV-6A N47TD -- 1050 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
Rick Sked wrote:
>
> I called Van's one time...that's all it took for me to realize I was
> pretty much on my own except for this and VAF forums. If you happen to
> feel good about yourself one day and think maybe a little too good,
> give Ken Scott a call...when you hang up you will feel several
> different emotions, "What an A**hole" was my first emotional
> response. I had to call one other time when they sent me two "right"
> parts and Joe took care of it but I had the upper-hand, I didn't have
> a question for them to "not heard" of before. Joe was very nice and
> helpful...Maybe it's living with a violin player that ascews ones
> personality.
>
>
>
> Rick Sked
>
> N246RS
>
> Paint
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:44:41 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Question for the door experts
>
> Hi Michael
>
>
>
> Thanks for the comments.
>
>
>
> /Rant on
>
>
>
> I am beginning to question the value of Vans tech support. On more
> than one occasion I have gotten the Ive never heard of that before
> only to find that was not the case. It really ticks me off to vague or
> non-answers or non answers to specific questions. In the case of the
> doors, they should a) confirm that is a problem and b) give specific
> instructions as to how to deal with it. As a first time builder who
> has very limited local support, I expect to ask a lot of questions
> that may seem obvious to the master builders at Vans. I dont expect
> to get a condescending attitude!
>
>
>
> /Rant off
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV
> Builder (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* May-14-09 7:28 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Question for the door experts
>
>
>
> Must be short term memory, I believe I had a similar conversation with
> him a couple months back. I just fit the door based on pictures and
> look along with making sure it had even spacing from the inside.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Les Kearney
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2009 8:38 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Question for the door experts
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Well today I start on my doors. First I trimmed the door opening to
> about 1/8 from the scribe lines. Then, as per the plans, I trimmed
> the door halves and drilled the index holes. Well, the first problem
> was that the window index holes didnt align two were off by .
> Next I found the forward index hole did not match the hole left open
> on the forward fuse skin. TRhe door index holes is high by at least a
> couple of inches compared to the hole in the fuse skin.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else run into this problem and if so how did you deal with
> it? I spoke to Ken Scott at Vans who mentioned that this was a first
> for him. I guess I am just lucky.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les
>
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| Subject: | Question for the door experts - Redux |
Hi
I called Van's again today and spoke to Scott Risan (the GM) who answered
the tech support line. He was very, very helpful and a pleasure to deal
with. I asked about the door gap and he took the following photos to help
guide me.
His explanation about the gaps was also quite informative.
Cheers
Les
#40643
-----Original Message-----
From: scottr@vansaircraft.com [mailto:scottr@vansaircraft.com]
Sent: May-15-09 11:31 AM
Subject: rv-10 door photos
Here's a few photos of the doors on our 10. Outside shots for reference to
door position
relative to the top.
The clearance depicted in dwg 45-04 (1/16-1/8") is optimal but not
necessary. Its a bit of a
cosmetic thing but will not affect how the door functions. You could have
much wider gaps
than called out all the way around without affecting function...and in my
opinion, without
affecting 'looks' much at all. I'd say from a cosmetic standpoint, shoot
for an 'even' gap on
each section of the door...top, sides, bottom...but not necessarily the same
on all
sides...bottom will be wider than the rest, for sure. As you can see from
the photos, this
clearance varies quite a bit on the sides and top on our plane and is
especially wide (3/8"-
1/2") at the bottom. All these photos were taken with the door pulled in
tight and latched.
give us a call or email if you have more questions.
scott at vans'
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the door experts - Redux |
Scott Risan is one of the bright spots @ Van's.
The sad thing about the doors, is that Van's accepts a lower standard
for their fiberglass components than they do for their alum/machined
components. They have received countless amounts of feedback on the
subject. And the only visible improvement is that the materials went
from green to pink. There's no reason that the same computer controlled
CNC technology used to produce the alum components could not be employed
to produce quality molds for the larger fiberglass components. Even if
they insisted on continuing with hand layups it would be a dramatic
improvement. Going to pre-peg cloth and autoclaved lay-ups would yield
yet another leap in quality, (and a dramatic reduction in build time).
It will never happen, but it could/should.
Deems
still itching........
Les Kearney wrote:
> Hi
>
> I called Van's again today and spoke to Scott Risan (the GM) who answered
> the tech support line. He was very, very helpful and a pleasure to deal
> with. I asked about the door gap and he took the following photos to help
> guide me.
>
> His explanation about the gaps was also quite informative.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
> #40643
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scottr@vansaircraft.com [mailto:scottr@vansaircraft.com]
> Sent: May-15-09 11:31 AM
> To: kearney@shaw.ca
> Subject: rv-10 door photos
>
> Here's a few photos of the doors on our 10. Outside shots for reference to
> door position
> relative to the top.
>
> The clearance depicted in dwg 45-04 (1/16-1/8") is optimal but not
> necessary. Its a bit of a
> cosmetic thing but will not affect how the door functions. You could have
> much wider gaps
> than called out all the way around without affecting function...and in my
> opinion, without
> affecting 'looks' much at all. I'd say from a cosmetic standpoint, shoot
> for an 'even' gap on
> each section of the door...top, sides, bottom...but not necessarily the same
> on all
> sides...bottom will be wider than the rest, for sure. As you can see from
> the photos, this
> clearance varies quite a bit on the sides and top on our plane and is
> especially wide (3/8"-
> 1/2") at the bottom. All these photos were taken with the door pulled in
> tight and latched.
>
> give us a call or email if you have more questions.
>
> scott at vans'
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Upper intersection leg fairing |
I didn't like the way the Van's uppers fit, so we built our own.
Make sure you max the tape prior to applying the glass.
Don McDonald
--- On Fri, 5/15/09, orchidman <gary@wingscc.com> wrote:
From: orchidman <gary@wingscc.com>
Subject: RV10-List: Upper intersection leg fairing
I can't find any comments on Tim's or Deems site about how you construct th
e upper leg intersection fairing.
Are you applying the 2 layers of glass to each one?- If so, are you doing
it on the plane?- If so, how are you holding it to the fuselage while ap
plying the glass?
I have trimmed the fairings and drilled the 4 holes and clecoed them to the
fuselage.- I am happy so far.- Now how do you add the glass while the
clecos are holding the fairing in place?- [Shocked]
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
Final Finishing - SB
(N2GB registered)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244232#244232
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Upper intersection leg fairing |
Hi Don,
what is the name of the blue stuff that you used to model the fairing with?
Michael
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RV-10 builder (engine, prop, finishing)
#511
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