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1. 02:38 AM - RV-10 HQ (Bob Leffler)
2. 07:49 AM - Re: OSH camping questions (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
3. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: iPhone Apps (Jesse Saint)
4. 10:41 AM - Re: Re: iPhone Apps (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 01:16 PM - Turbo nozzle manifold (Eric_Kallio)
6. 04:36 PM - Re: Turbo nozzle manifold (Deems Davis)
7. 04:50 PM - Re: Turbo nozzle manifold (Robin Marks)
8. 04:55 PM - Re: RV10-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 07/07/10 (tony Dubeansky)
9. 06:23 PM - Re: Five point harness? (Richard Bibb)
10. 07:59 PM - Re: Five point harness? (Rick)
11. 08:17 PM - Re: RV-10 HQ (bcondrey)
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Usually, there are two to three events during the week. Last year was Mon,
Wed, and Fri, but that is subject to change. Previous years there were also
some on the Sat and Sun before.
The crowds start arriving after the airshow daily and some hang around until
early evening to socialize even on the nights without dinners. There's
plenty of opportunities to meet other RV-10 builders. Even if you just
need a place to crash and find some shade during the day, you're bound to
find one or two other builders doing the same.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Fritzsche
(Building)
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Ex-Lurker
--> <fritzsch@eskimo.com>
I hope they avoid the 28th as the Young Eagles dinner is that evening and it
is quite difficult to get to both.
Dave Fritzsche
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Dave Fritzsche
40813
Puyallup, WA
Wings in process?
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On 7/18/2010 1:00 PM, Bob Leffler wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Leffler"<rv@thelefflers.com>
>
> Steve,
>
> Be sure to stop by the RV-10 HQ after the airshow and for the dinners to
> meet the other RV-10 builders. Keep watching this list for the
> announcement on what nights dinners will be planned. Usually, the
> powers to be (Brenda and Susan) don't decide until Saturday or Sunday.
> They'll be plenty of spouses around, so Karen won't feel out of place.
>
> bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Roberts
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:49 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Ex-Lurker
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Steve Roberts"
> --> <swrpilot@bellsouth.net>
>
> After, many, many years of lurking, we are now officially RV-10
> builders. I bought the tailkit from Chris Klugewicz, and am now in
> the tool collection phase.
>
> We go back to the James McClow/Yahoo days, and have about 5 hours in
> the ten, including a couple with Mike Seager in the factory Continental
version.
>
> My newly minted pilot/wife Karen and I will be at Oshkosh all week,
> and we look forward the meeting everyone, notebook and camera in hand.
>
> We own N2700W, a Mooney M20E based in Morristown, TN.
>
> Steve Roberts
> Ex-Lurker
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| Subject: | OSH camping questions |
Wow, and I thought that was a typo on the schedule that you were camping.
:) I unfortunately won't be this year, just too much going on. Heck, I'
m 500 and some messages behind on the list right now! I'm thinking we need
a small nuclear battery to sustain the RV-10 pilots gadgets this year. BT
W, hope everyone has their water over flight kits for coming into OSH this
year, we are already over twice the average rainfall for July and have seve
ral days of forecast rain for this week. I've seen roads flooded around he
re in the last week that I haven't seen flooded in 20 years.
Bob, got your message, I'll drop down probably tomorrow morning with the
coffee maker, bug spray, and mower. Amy has the truck today so no way to g
et the mower in her Jetta. I'm probably going to be there a couple days th
is week and then Mon/Tues next week.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:33 PM
Subject: RV10-List: OSH camping questions
This is the 1st year for us to camp, and we've got a couple of questions fo
r the 'repeat offenders'
Can you count on being able to purchase food, milk, meat, ice, etc to cook
from the store/near the campsite? Or is it limited to 'essentials'.
Where can you charge cell phones/laptops/ipads etc?
Deems
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIcaejkpD4
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> You know what the iPad & iPhone have in common? Neither make phone calls.
> See you all at OSH.
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:15 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: iPhone Apps
>
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> Ditto here. I have skycharts, foreflight, and wingx. Foreflight is
> my favorite. They are all different in some way. They all have ipad
> versions that are even nicer than on the iPhone. Foreflight is the
> only one that transfers your subscription to both devices.
> Tim
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> On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM, "egohr1"
> <EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu> wrote:
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> <EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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>> I have a Iphone and foreflight. I love the app on the Iphone, but
>> the best is the foreflight on the Ipad.
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>> One foreflight subscription works for both devices.
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>> eric gohr
>> EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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My personal favorite......
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/iphone-4-vs-evo-4g/
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: iPhone Apps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKIcaejkpD4
do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Jul 18, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> You know what the iPad & iPhone have in common? Neither make phone calls.
> See you all at OSH.
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 2:15 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: iPhone Apps
>
>
> Ditto here. I have skycharts, foreflight, and wingx. Foreflight is
> my favorite. They are all different in some way. They all have ipad
> versions that are even nicer than on the iPhone. Foreflight is the
> only one that transfers your subscription to both devices.
> Tim
>
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>
> On Jul 18, 2010, at 2:13 PM, "egohr1"
> <EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu> wrote:
>
> <EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
>>>
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>> I have a Iphone and foreflight. I love the app on the Iphone, but
>> the best is the foreflight on the Ipad.
>>
>> One foreflight subscription works for both devices.
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>> eric gohr
>> EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305331#305331
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| Subject: | Turbo nozzle manifold |
With the Sam James cowl and plenum, I am using turbo nozzles (Which Aerosport Power
was gracious enough to do the mod for me). I have the nozzles, but does anyone
know where to get the manifold, or have a parts list? I scoured Deems site
and got lots of good pics of what it should look like, just don't know where
to get the stuff to install, or make myself.
Eric Kallio
Still fitting cowling and plenum.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305475#305475
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| Subject: | Re: Turbo nozzle manifold |
Eric you can get the turbo rails from Don @airflow performance.
Deems
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 19, 2010, at 1:15 PM, "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com> wrote:
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> With the Sam James cowl and plenum, I am using turbo nozzles (Which Aerosport
Power was gracious enough to do the mod for me). I have the nozzles, but does
anyone know where to get the manifold, or have a parts list? I scoured Deems
site and got lots of good pics of what it should look like, just don't know where
to get the stuff to install, or make myself.
>
> Eric Kallio
> Still fitting cowling and plenum.
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| Subject: | Turbo nozzle manifold |
Deems did his w/o a manifold. You may want to consider his approach which
will save you much weight (Manifold is heavy) plus I have my Manifold pick
up in the air box which is correct for flying but may be an issue during
ground ops where you may actually crate a slight vacuum in the system.
My condolences on your James cowl.
Robin
Dual James Cowl Owner
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric_Kallio
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 1:16 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Turbo nozzle manifold
With the Sam James cowl and plenum, I am using turbo nozzles (Which
Aerosport Power was gracious enough to do the mod for me). I have the
nozzles, but does anyone know where to get the manifold, or have a parts
list? I scoured Deems site and got lots of good pics of what it should
look like, just don't know where to get the stuff to install, or make
myself.
Eric Kallio
Still fitting cowling and plenum.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305475#305475
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| Subject: | Re: RV10-List Digest: 13 Msgs - 07/07/10 |
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edux- (AirMike)=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________- Message 1
- =0A_____________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 01:24:03 PM PST
US=0AFrom: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>=0ASubject: RV10-List: Door Latch
Redux=0A=0AHi=0A=0AA few weeks back there was a great thread on door latch
es. =0A=0AIs there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's l
atches / 90=0Aor 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'
ll assume that=0Athe latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cu
t.=0A=0ACheers=0A=0ALes=0A#40643=0A=0A=0A________________________________
- Message 2- =0A_____________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 02:
25:54 PM PST US=0ASubject: RV10-List: PlaneAround 180 (retro) latch install
with pics=0AFrom: "Strasnuts" <sean@braunandco.com>=0A=0A=0AThis is Michae
l Schipper's building site.- I just wanted everyone who is =0Athinking=0A
of buying or installing a PlaneAround latch to see a great install that is
=0Awell documented.=0A=0AHere it is:=0A=0Ahttp://www.rvten.com/finish9.asp
=0A=0A--------=0ACust. #40936=0ARV-10 SB Fuselage=0AN801VR reserved=0A=0A
=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.
php?p=304087#304087=0A=0A=0A________________________________- Message 3
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US=0AFrom: "Richard Barnes" <rickbarnes@highlanddental.com>=0ASubject: RE:
RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0AWe were able to install the180 degree latc
hes from Sean.- If you haven't=0Apainted the outside of the doors, these
work really great.- The latch- cam=0Aengages early, lining up the door
frame for the pins, and the door closes=0Asecurely.- The cam keeps the ce
nter of the door tight against the door=0Aframe.- I don't know how the do
or will ever come off when it is latched this=0Away.- The installation wa
s simple too.=0A=0A=0ARick=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.c
om=0A[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
=0ASent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:19 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Door Latch
Redux=0A=0A=0AHi =0A=0AA few weeks back there was a great thread on door la
tches. =0A=0AIs there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean'
s latches / 90=0Aor 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing?
I'll assume that=0Athe latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the
cut.=0A=0ACheers =0A=0ALes =0A#40643 =0A=0A=0A____________________________
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03:36:35 PM PST US=0AFrom: "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0AI could not see putting th
e clunky Van's latch on the airplane.- It is just=0Aplain ugly.- I inst
alled the 180 degree Plane Around system and recommend it=0Awith caveats an
d comments:=0A=0A1.- - - It works as advertised but at $470 for the r
etrofit kit it is=0Aoverpriced.- Perhaps some competition will help drive
it down to a more=0Avalue orientated price.=0A=0A2.- - - Be very car
eful not to strip out the threads in the nylon block.- I=0Adid and ended
up with a less than satisfactory repair by melting some of the=0Anylon shav
ing you get fitting the blocks to fill then re-tap the holes.=0A=0A3.-
- - I built up the bottom of the door to be flush across the door sill
=0Aand had already finish painted the interior.- Being very careful with
a=0ADremmel Tool I cut a slot for the nylon catch (photos attached).- The
=0Aplacement of the catch ended up slightly below the sill and does not=0Ai
nterfere with getting in or out of the plane.=0A=0A4.- - - I already
had the Rivet Head machined pins and pin blocks so I did=0Anot purchase the
ones from Plane Around.=0A=0A=0ACarl Froehlich=0A=0ARV-10 (systems install
)=0A=0ARV-8A (550 hrs)=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
=0A[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
=0ASent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:19 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Door Latch
Redux=0A=0A=0AHi =0A=0AA few weeks back there was a great thread on door la
tches. =0A=0AIs there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean'
s latches / 90=0Aor 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing?
I'll assume that=0Athe latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the
cut.=0A=0ACheers =0A=0ALes =0A#40643 =0A=0A=0A____________________________
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04:35:11 PM PST US=0ASubject: RV10-List: Re: Door Latch Redux=0AFrom: "joh
ngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>=0A=0A=0AI'm going with Matt Banks' mo
d, that Vern Darley used. I haven't seen anything=0Abetter yet.=0AJohn=0A
=0A--------=0A#40572 QB. Working on Cowling & Panel=0AN711JG reserved
=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/view
topic.php?p=304105#304105=0A=0A=0A________________________________- Mes
sage 6- =0A_____________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 04:46:31 P
M PST US=0AFrom: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>=0ASubject: RE: RV
10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0AOn the other hand:=0A=0AI don't believe anyo
ne has lost a door when it was installed properly and=0Athen closed properl
y. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not=0Apenetrate the door f
rame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material=0Amakes it more diffi
cult to close the door and the pins were not engaged=0Abefore flight. I thi
nk that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we=0Awould have no pr
oblem with the existing latch system.=0A=0AAlbert Gardner=0A=0AN9914RV=0A
=0AYuma, Az=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:ow
ner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney=0ASent: Wednes
day, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0A=0AH
i =0A=0AA few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches. =0A=0AIs
there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
=0Aor 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume t
hat=0Athe latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.=0A=0AChe
ers =0A=0ALes =0A#40643 =0A=0A=0A________________________________- Messag
e 7- =0A_____________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 05:07:11 PM P
ST US=0AFrom: "Les Kearney" <kearney@shaw.ca>=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Doo
r Latch Redux=0A=0AAlbert=0A=0AI agree 100% with your post. The problem is,
being mere mortals, we will=0Amake mistakes. The question is how often and
what are the consequences. If=0Awe can eliminate the risk, so much the bet
ter. =0A=0AGiven there have already been so door departures in flight, it w
ould seem=0Athat a little preventative medicine is in order.=0A=0AJust my $
0.02=0A=0ACheers=0A=0ALes=0A#40643=0A=0A- _____- =0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10
-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]
On Behalf Of Albert Gardner=0ASent: July-07-10 5:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-
List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0A=0AOn the other hand:=0A=0AI don't believe anyo
ne has lost a door when it was installed properly and=0Athen closed properl
y. The issue seems to be that either the pins do not=0Apenetrate the door f
rame sufficently to secure it or the sealing material=0Amakes it more diffi
cult to close the door and the pins were not engaged=0Abefore flight. I thi
nk that if we verify the doors are closed and latched we=0Awould have no pr
oblem with the existing latch system.=0A=0AAlbert Gardner=0A=0AN9914RV=0A
=0AYuma, Az=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:ow
ner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney=0ASent: Wednes
day, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0A=0AH
i =0A=0AA few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches. =0A=0AIs
there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches / 90
=0Aor 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll assume t
hat=0Athe latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.=0A=0AChe
ers =0A=0ALes =0A#40643 =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Li
st=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A
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____________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 05:22:30 PM PST US=0AFrom: "DLM" <dlm460
07@cox.net>=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0ADoor Latch Redu
xMine is the touchy feely system. Touch each pin once =0Aafter the doors ar
e closed and touch each pin again before takeoff. I =0Adid remake the pins
extra long and cut to length as the location of the =0Alatch gear can alter
the required length. =0A- ----- Original Message ----- =0A- From: Albe
rt Gardner =0A- To: rv10-list@matronics.com =0A- Sent: Wednesday, July
07, 2010 4:45 PM=0A- Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0A=0A-
On the other hand:=0A=0A- I don't believe anyone has lost a door when it
was installed properly =0Aand then closed properly. The issue seems to be
that either the pins do =0Anot penetrate the door frame sufficently to secu
re it or the sealing =0Amaterial makes it more difficult to close the door
and the pins were not =0Aengaged before flight. I think that if we verify t
he doors are closed =0Aand latched we would have no problem with the existi
ng latch system.=0A=0A- Albert Gardner=0A=0A- N9914RV=0A=0A- Yuma, Az
=0A=0A- =0A=0A- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:o
wner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney=0A- Sent: W
ednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM=0A- To: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A- Sub
ject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0A- =0A=0A- Hi =0A=0A- A few wee
ks back there was a great thread on door latches. =0A=0A- Is there any co
nsensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's =0Alatches / 90 or 180 deg
ree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? =0AI'll assume that the la
tches from the iron works at Van's don't make the =0Acut.=0A=0A- Cheers
=0A=0A- Les =0A- #40643 =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV1
0-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comht=0Atp://www.matronics.com/contribution
=0A=0A=0A________________________________- Message 9- =0A______________
_______________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 05:34:31 PM PST US=0ASubject: RV10-Li
st: Re: Trying to be Politically correct - 4th of July=0AFrom: "johngoodman
" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>=0A=0A=0A=0AAirMike wrote:=0A> Yes the Kiwis a
re a great aviation country also...........=0A> =0A> My more important poin
t is that we must work together to preserve our freedom=0Ato fly (every day
) from the pointy pencil green weenies that will take our =0Afreedoms=0Afro
m us. Just last month the weenies at the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency=0At
ried to impose draconian restrictions on seaplane operations at Lake Tahoe.
=0AOnly through the efforts a small group of Northern Calif. and Nevada air
men=0Awas the initiative quashed.=0A=0A=0AIt all depends on whose Ox is get
ting gored....=0A=0AJohn=0A=0A--------=0A#40572 QB. Working on Cowling &
; Panel=0AN711JG reserved=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://
forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304115#304115=0A=0A=0A______________
__________________- Message 10- =0A____________________________________
=0A=0A=0ATime: 06:57:34 PM PST US=0AFrom: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net
>=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0ADoor Latch ReduxHas anyon
e had an issue with the doors with the =0Aaftermarket pins and aluminum ver
sus plastic that Vans sells in their =0Akits? I know of one builder who upg
raded his and tells me his doors =0Aclose every time now without an issue,
which wasn't the case before he =0Ainstalled them.=0A=0A=0AFrom: Albert Gar
dner =0ASent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 4:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Do
or Latch Redux=0A=0A=0AOn the other hand:=0A=0AI don't believe anyone has l
ost a door when it was installed properly =0Aand then closed properly. The
issue seems to be that either the pins do =0Anot penetrate the door frame s
ufficently to secure it or the sealing =0Amaterial makes it more difficult
to close the door and the pins were not =0Aengaged before flight. I think t
hat if we verify the doors are closed =0Aand latched we would have no probl
em with the existing latch system.=0A=0AAlbert Gardner=0A=0AN9914RV=0A=0AYu
ma, Az=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-
rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney=0ASent: Wednesday,
July 07, 2010 1:19 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0A=0AHi
=0A=0AA few weeks back there was a great thread on door latches. =0A=0AIs t
here any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean's latches =0A/ 90
or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuing? I'll =0Aassume
that the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make the cut.=0A=0AChee
rs =0A=0ALes =0A#40643 =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Lis
thttp://forums.matronics.comht=0Atp://www.matronics.com/contribution =0A=0A
=0A________________________________- Message 11- =0A___________________
_________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 07:15:04 PM PST US=0ASubject: RV10-List: Re
: Door Latch Redux=0AFrom: "nukeflyboy" <flymoore@charter.net>=0A=0A=0AYou
won't find a consensus on this question.- The after market latches look a
nd=0Awork good, but I can't see tossing $500 into the fix.- The Van's lat
ch, which=0AI have seen and tried on Bill Steppling's 10, works just fine a
nd is free.- The=0Atwo hand operation does not bother me and frankly, I d
on't know many aircraft=0Adoors/canopies that you can operate with one hand
.=0A=0ADoing nothing is not an option for me.- Being in the nuclear power
business =0Amakes=0Ame cautious and conservative when it comes to safety.
- I also know a little=0Aabout human factors engineering and in my opinio
n the doors in their unmodified=0Astate are an accident waiting to happen.
=0A=0A--------=0ADave Moore=0ARV-6 flying=0ARV-10 QB - FWF=0A=0A=0ARead thi
s topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304
123#304123=0A=0A=0A________________________________- Message 12- =0A___
_________________________________=0A=0A=0ATime: 07:35:32 PM PST US=0AFrom:
"McGann, Ron" <Ron.McGann@ausawd.com>=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch
Redux=0A=0APascal et al,=0A=0AI have retained the standard Door design, and
simply replaced the Delrin bl=0Aocks with aluminium ones I made myself fro
m =BC" stock (ie retain the basic=0AAl tube pins).- I have no issues wi
th door closure or security.=0A=0AI do follow Albert's checklist and confir
m pin penetration twice during pre=0Aflight, and I ALWAYS close the pax sid
e door from the outside.=0A=0ACheers=0ARon=0AVH-XRM flying in Oz=0A=0A_____
___________________________=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [m
ailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m=0Aatronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal=0ASent:
Thursday, 8 July 2010 11:55 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux
=0A=0AHas anyone had an issue with the doors with the aftermarket pins and
alumin=0Aum versus plastic that Vans sells in their kits? I know of one bui
lder who =0Aupgraded his and tells me his doors close every time now withou
t an issue, =0Awhich wasn't the case before he installed them.=0A=0A=0AFrom
: Albert Gardner<mailto:ibspud@roadrunner.com>=0ASent: Wednesday, July 07,
2010 4:45 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Door Latch Redux=0A=0AOn the other h
and:=0AI don't believe anyone has lost a door when it was installed properl
y and t=0Ahen closed properly. The issue seems to be that either the pins d
o not pene=0Atrate the door frame sufficently to secure it or the sealing m
aterial makes=0Ait more difficult to close the door and the pins were not e
ngaged before f=0Alight. I think that if we verify the doors are closed and
latched we would =0Ahave no problem with the existing latch system.=0AAlbe
rt Gardner=0AN9914RV=0AYuma, Az=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics
.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m=0Aatronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kear
ney=0ASent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:19 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Door Lat
ch Redux=0A=0A=0AHi=0A=0AA few weeks back there was a great thread on door
latches.=0A=0AIs there any consensus as to what the best solution is - Sean
's latches / 9=0A0 or 180 degree etc? Are there other options worth pursuin
g? I'll assume th=0Aat the latches from the iron works at Van's don't make
the cut.=0A=0ACheers=0A=0ALes=0A#40643=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Nav
igator?RV10-List=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics
.com/contribution=0A=0A=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-L
ist">http://www.matronics.=0Acom/Navigator?RV10-List=0A=0Ahref="http://fo
rums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A=0Ahref="http://www.mat
ronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c=0A=0A=0A_______________
_________________- Message 13- =0A____________________________________
=0A=0A=0ATime: 08:40:48 PM PST US=0ASubject: RV10-List: Re: Door Latch Redu
x=0AFrom: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>=0A=0A=0AI tend to be in Dave "Nu
keflyboy's" camp. I am not that sold on the Van's fix,=0Abut I did install
it on the Pilot side only. I want to use it for a few months=0Aand then ten
der an opinion before putting it on the passenger side. The two =0Atouch=0A
system is not that great, but it is a solid item after installation. =0AIns
tallation=0Awas about 5 hrs as you want the fix right and exact. The revers
e detent=0Ais pretty fail safe at low speed, but how it will operate at 100
+ kts is a=0Areal unknown. I presume that Vans tested it....????,,?>?>??>>?
??=0A=0AOne bonus is that the fit is loose, so when you land on a hot day y
ou can open=0Athe door latch and get a small bit of air in the cabin=0A=0A-
-------=0AOSH '10 or Bust =0AQ/B - finally done=0A=0A=0ARead this topic onl
ine here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304130#304130
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| Subject: | Five point harness? |
I'd go with four point. Simpler and its not like you're doing acro in the
-10..
Richard Bibb
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:23 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Five point harness?
All,
Looking for the general consensus, 5 point harness for the rear seats or 4
point?
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (540 hrs)
RV-10 (systems install)
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| Subject: | Re: Five point harness? |
Most of us cut that crotch tab off long ago. Even in heavy bumps none
of my backseaters ever slid out or hit the lid.
Rick S.
N246RS
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 19, 2010, at 6:15 PM, "Richard Bibb" <rbibb@tomet.net> wrote:
> I=99d go with four point. Simpler and its not like you=99re
doing
> acro in the -10.
>
> Richard Bibb
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 7:23 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Five point harness?
>
> All,
>
> Looking for the general consensus, 5 point harness for the rear
> seats or 4 point?
>
> Carl Froehlich
> RV-8A (540 hrs)
> RV-10 (systems install)
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
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Staking out of sites for this year has been completed. Our RV-10 group is located
just off Lindbergh between 53rd and 54th. We are about 100 feet south of
Lindberg this year rather than being right on the street. Rather than organizing
our group in 2 long rows like last year, we've spread over 3 rows to keep
all our sites on the high ground. The low lying areas are swampy enough that
you get splashing when you walk through them. The high ground is doing well enough
that Class As are parking with no issue.
We again have a large open area and have acquired 4 picnic tables and so far have
5 10x10 canopies for our community to use. The grass is pretty long in Scholler
but Michael Sausen has generously offered use of his lawnmower for use by
those that want to mow their sites.
Even though it has been very wet here for the last couple of weeks, the crowd is
much larger than I've seen in recent years. Part of that might be because of
people avoiding the low lying areas where it's still swampy.
The field is still fairly wet and they aren't yet parking planes in the normal
(HBP and North 40) areas. I did however see 4 planes in the N40 area this afternoon.
Most planes are along the showplane area along the hard surfaces. There
isn't a specific target to start moving them but I assume that it's being
figured out...
Bob
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