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1. 05:10 AM - countersinking baffle holes (Billy & Tami Britton)
2. 05:46 AM - Re: countersinking baffle holes (rv10flyer)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem (rv10flyer)
4. 07:11 AM - Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem (Bruce Johnson)
5. 08:04 AM - Nose gear slop (Sheldon Olesen)
6. 08:30 AM - Re: Nose gear slop (Jesse Saint)
7. 08:46 AM - Re: Nose gear slop (Linn Walters)
8. 08:53 AM - Re: Nose gear slop (Tim Olson)
9. 10:41 AM - Rivet Squeezer for sale (Jdaniel343)
10. 12:05 PM - Re: Re: countersinking baffle holes (Billy & Tami Britton)
11. 12:24 PM - electronic ignition (greghale)
12. 12:41 PM - Re: electronic ignition (tsts4)
13. 12:44 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Kelly McMullen)
14. 12:46 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Robin Marks)
15. 01:30 PM - Re: electronic ignition (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
16. 01:55 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Bruce Johnson)
17. 02:06 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Tim Olson)
18. 02:10 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Bruce Johnson)
19. 02:12 PM - Re: electronic ignition (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
20. 02:20 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Robin Marks)
21. 02:25 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Ross Wendell)
22. 02:27 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Seano)
23. 02:53 PM - Re: electronic ignition (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
24. 03:24 PM - Re: electronic ignition (John Cumins)
25. 03:24 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Robin Marks)
26. 03:36 PM - Re: electronic ignition (Robert Brunkenhoefer)
27. 04:04 PM - Re: electronic ignition (David Maib)
28. 04:06 PM - Re: electronic ignition (David Maib)
29. 04:26 PM - Re: electronic ignition (David Leikam)
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| Subject: | countersinking baffle holes |
On page 18-4 step 6 we countersink the tank skins to attach the tank
baffles to. It tells us to leave every 10th hole uncountersunk for
alignment issues (these holes are countersunk and riveted later, after
proseal has cured). I guess I just don't understand why it's asking us
to do this. Everything is final drilled and should line up perfectly.
Is it just because of the added mess of the proseal??? Is this
necessary to do or has anyone just countersunk all of them at once.
Seems to me that countersinking and riveting after the proseal has cured
is a sure way to try to make the tank leak.
Thanks
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: countersinking baffle holes |
A dimple or machine countersunk hole is enlarged to the point that your baffle
will not seat properly. The seal is made with a nice layer/bead that pushes up
in front of baffle bend line as you install it. I am sure some sealing takes
place around the rivets too, but your main seal needs to be that inside corner.
I just followed the plans, using almost 1 qt per tank. Just before baffles are
installed I thinned sealant with toluene/toluol max 15% by wt then went over
all joints and rivet shop heads. Then tested tanks to 1 psi with electronic
manometer.(Water can be used too).
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09.
Fuselage Sec 41 Fwd top fuse skin/panel
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem |
Check to ensure you have a good ground with star lockwasher under terminal at one
of the six sender attachment screws. I'll be installing EIS this summer so
keep us posted.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09.
Fuselage Sec 41 Fwd top fuse skin/panel
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel quantity calibration problem |
Your right tank readings are a bit higher than mine but if they work they w
ork. =0AI did my EIS twice before I got it and even after I did the math I
had to adjust =0Athe right tank numbers to get it to read-the correct amo
unt.-the numbers quit =0Aclimbing at 24 and25 gals so I used that as my f
ull reading. I have the Cheltons =0Aand have yet to get them working right.
One tank will read full and the other =0Aempty after calibration. Double c
heck your math and see if you missed =0Asomething.-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______
_________________________=0AFrom: Eric_Kallio <scout019@msn.com>=0ATo: rv10
-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, February 2, 2011 6:25:55 PM=0ASubject: RV1
0-List: Fuel quantity calibration problem=0A=0A--> RV10-List message posted
by: "Eric_Kallio" <scout019@msn.com>=0A=0AI am trying to calibrate the fue
l quantity levels on the GRT EIS 6000. I have =0Athe standard Vans floats i
n the tank. Before O call GRT in the morning I wanted =0Ato see if anyone e
lse has had this issue...=0A=0ADuring calibration, following the sheet from
GRT, I got AuxSF/Auxoff setting of =0A52/151 for the left tank and 79/225
for the right. These numbers seem a little =0Ahigher than others have poste
d, but there may be more resistance in my circuit. =0ADuring calibration of
the tanks I had noticeable movement in the values on the =0AEIS and on the
EFIS. However, with the tanks full and the settings entered into =0Athe ca
libration menu, my tanks both read 2 gallons on the EIS. I have rechecked
=0Amy numbers as well as my settings. I am set to integers and have actuall
y had to =0Aset the sensors to reverse sensing because they were counting d
own when adding =0Afuel. =0A=0A=0AAny thoughts, or similar experiences out
there?=0A=0AEric Kallio=0A3 days until DAR...if I can get my fuel level cal
ibrated.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matr
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After 238 hours I found that I have about a 1/2" of vertical slop in my nose gear.
How difficult is it to add the spacers? Any good ideas on how to do this?
Sheldon Olesen
N475PV
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear slop |
I just added another spacer to N256H. I had added one or two in the past and just
added another. It is very easy, but you will need some help. You need to
get the nose in the air so you can remove the cap that the spacer goes under
so you don't have to remove the heater box controls. Then just add the spacer(s)
as needed and compress the rubber donuts enough to get the bolt back in place
and then put the bolt in and you're done. Very easy to do with a second set
of hands. I compressed the donuts by jacking up slightly on the tail, but
you can also do so by either adding weight to the nose or possibly a rachet strap
between a hard point on the engine and the nose gear leg.
Just FYI for those out there who are getting up in hours. I have now also tightened
up the swivel on the nose fork at least 3 times on N256H. I am hoping the
shimmy goes down now that I've added another spacer and tightened the swivel,
but I'm sure it will. Basically, both of these items are not just one-time
adjustments for once the parts take on a "permanent set", so keep your eyes on
them and adjust as necessary.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
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> After 238 hours I found that I have about a 1/2" of vertical slop in my nose
gear. How difficult is it to add the spacers? Any good ideas on how to do this?
>
> Sheldon Olesen
> N475PV
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear slop |
On 2/3/2011 11:24 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
>
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> Just FYI for those out there who are getting up in hours. I have now also tightened
up the swivel on the nose fork at least 3 times on N256H. I am hoping
the shimmy goes down now that I've added another spacer and tightened the swivel,
but I'm sure it will. Basically, both of these items are not just one-time
adjustments for once the parts take on a "permanent set", so keep your eyes
on them and adjust as necessary.
You can also add belleville washers and cup two at a time to increase
the drag.
Linn
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>>
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>> After 238 hours I found that I have about a 1/2" of vertical slop in my nose
gear. How difficult is it to add the spacers? Any good ideas on how to do this?
>>
>> Sheldon Olesen
>> N475PV
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear slop |
I think I've probably tightened the nosewheel swivel nut 3 times
or so...and the last time I was in the low to mid 30's lb-ft of
torque. Recently I had the nosewheel off the ground and found
that it was still snug. You're very right that it'll take a
few times to get this snugged up...but at least there is
light at the end of the tunnel that it'll turn into
an annual thing to check. The first 150 hours or so I think
you'll want to check it at least 3 times in that period though.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 2/3/2011 10:24 AM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse
> Saint<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> I just added another spacer to N256H. I had added one or two in the
> past and just added another. It is very easy, but you will need some
> help. You need to get the nose in the air so you can remove the cap
> that the spacer goes under so you don't have to remove the heater box
> controls. Then just add the spacer(s) as needed and compress the
> rubber donuts enough to get the bolt back in place and then put the
> bolt in and you're done. Very easy to do with a second set of hands.
> I compressed the donuts by jacking up slightly on the tail, but you
> can also do so by either adding weight to the nose or possibly a
> rachet strap between a hard point on the engine and the nose gear
> leg.
>
> Just FYI for those out there who are getting up in hours. I have now
> also tightened up the swivel on the nose fork at least 3 times on
> N256H. I am hoping the shimmy goes down now that I've added another
> spacer and tightened the swivel, but I'm sure it will. Basically,
> both of these items are not just one-time adjustments for once the
> parts take on a "permanent set", so keep your eyes on them and adjust
> as necessary.
>
> Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com C:
> 352-427-0285 F: 815-377-3694
>
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Sheldon Olesen wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Sheldon
>> Olesen<saolesen@sirentel.net>
>>
>>
>> After 238 hours I found that I have about a 1/2" of vertical slop
>> in my nose gear. How difficult is it to add the spacers? Any good
>> ideas on how to do this?
>>
>> Sheldon Olesen N475PV
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Rivet Squeezer for sale |
I have a Chicago Pnuematic Rivet Sqeezer for sale.
I has a 1 yoke that is included.
See photo http://s767.photobucket.com/albums/xx317/Jdaniel343/?action=view¤t=IMG_6408.jpg
Asking $300 obo.
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: countersinking baffle holes |
Thanks Wayne. That answered my question.
Bill
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From: "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:44 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: countersinking baffle holes
>
> A dimple or machine countersunk hole is enlarged to the point that your
> baffle will not seat properly. The seal is made with a nice layer/bead
> that pushes up in front of baffle bend line as you install it. I am sure
> some sealing takes place around the rivets too, but your main seal needs
> to be that inside corner. I just followed the plans, using almost 1 qt per
> tank. Just before baffles are installed I thinned sealant with
> toluene/toluol max 15% by wt then went over all joints and rivet shop
> heads. Then tested tanks to 1 psi with electronic manometer.(Water can be
> used too).
>
> --------
> Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
> Bldr# 40983 SB Started 12/1/09.
> Fuselage Sec 41 Fwd top fuse skin/panel
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329437#329437
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| Subject: | electronic ignition |
Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my RV10?
I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into this....Thanks
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | Re: electronic ignition |
Lets see, some of the usual suspects include:
Light Speed Engineerings Plasma III: http://www.lightspeedengineering.com/
Unison LASAR: http://www.unisonindustries.com/ourproducts/lasarelectronicignition.html
EFii: http://www.flyefii.com/
G3i: http://www.g3ignition.com/
EMAG (suppose to be real close to releasing a P-Mag for the 6-cyl Lycs): www.emagair.com
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Todd Stovall
728TT (reserved)
RV-10 Empacone, Wings, Fuse
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| Subject: | Re: electronic ignition |
The Lightspeed Plasma that Van's sells seems to be the most common. Emag
has been promising a 6 cyl version for a long time. G3 modification to
standard mags seems to be the other most viable alternative. Probably
one or two others, but not that many options.
On 2/3/2011 1:21 PM, greghale wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "greghale"<ghale5224@aol.com>
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> Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my RV10?
I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into this....Thanks
>
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> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | electronic ignition |
I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
Robin
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Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my
RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
this....Thanks
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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| Subject: | electronic ignition |
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| Subject: | Re: electronic ignition |
I have the light speed and only have 38 hrs on it, but so far so good.=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: greghale <ghale5224@ao
l.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, February 3, 2011 1:21:42
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ted by: "greghale" <ghale5224@aol.com>=0A=0ACan anyone give me some advice
on a good electronic ignition system for my =0ARV10?- I will be going to
Sun n Fun this year and want to check into =0Athis....Thanks=0A=0A--------
=0AGreg Hale rv10 -- N210KH=0Awww.nwacaptain.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this to
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| Subject: | Re: electronic ignition |
It's interesting that you ordered 2 of something that isn't
even available yet, especially given your Lightspeed experience.
I would never order 2 of anything, given that Lightspeed works
great with only 1. But, I had thought I'd get eMags/pMags
way back in 2004-2005, and they were promising them shortly
back then. It could be a good thing that they waited
this long, but then again, what kinds of problems were
there that caused this long of a delay? They certainly
have had the pent up demand for many years...so it isn't
lack of interest. I was really interested in them,
but they too have had issues.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
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On 2/3/2011 3:17 PM, carl.froehlich@verizon.net wrote:
> I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at
> Sun&Fun. I put an order in for two.
>
> As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any
> engine. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up.
>
> Carl
>
> Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
>
>
> -----Original message-----
>
> *From: *Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>*
> To: *rv10-list@matronics.com*
> Sent: *Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00*
> Subject: *RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
> At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system
> for my
> RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
> this....Thanks
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329487#329487
>
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What problems did you have with the Light Speed?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________
____________________=0AFrom: "carl.froehlich@verizon.net" <carl.froehlich@v
erizon.net>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thu, February 3, 2011 2:1
7:44 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition=0A=0A=0AI got a note
from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at Sun&Fun.=C2- I =0Apu
t an order in for two.=0A=0AAs a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never a
gain put those on any engine.=C2- I =0Anow have 300 trouble free hours on
my 8A dual pMag set up.=0A=0ACarl=0A=0ASent from my mobile phone.=C2-=C2
- Please read past the typos.=0A=0A-----Original message-----=0A=0AFrom:
Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>=0A>To: rv10-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent:
Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00=0A>Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic
waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.=0A>At this rate I will be able to mount
one in my RV-18.=0A>=0A>Robin=0A>Do Not Archive=0A>=0A>=0A>-----Original Me
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I was on the phone with E-Mag this morning and to their credit each time I
have asked them when the 6 cylinder version would be released they never
promised a date so as to not disappoint. That being said the 6 cylinder
version at SNF 2011 will be a sample to hold, feel, review but not be
available for sale. The reason they are taking so long as they are shooting
for certification on the 6 cylinder version which gives me a much warmer
fuzzy feeling. He did say they would most likely be releasing the
experimental version prior to certification but I suspect the differences i
f
any will be minor.
I have a 4 cylinder version on my 200 Hp IO-360 that had been pickled for 1
0
years before first start. Started on the second blade.
I have been on the 6 cylinder =9Clist=9D for well over 2 years.
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *
carl.froehlich@verizon.net
*Sent:* Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:18 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at Sun&Fun.
I put an order in for two.
As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any
engine. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up.
Carl
Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
-----Original message-----
*From: *Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>*
Sent: *Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00*
Subject: *RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my
RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
this....Thanks
--------
Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329487#329487
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Haben Sie die Anweisungen!
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 3, 2011, at 15:07, Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson@yahoo.com> wrote:
> What problems did you have with the Light Speed?
>
> From: "carl.froehlich@verizon.net" <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 2:17:44 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
> I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at Sun&Fun.
I put an order in for two.
>
> As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any engin
e. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up.
>
> Carl
>
> Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
> At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my
> RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
> this....Thanks
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329487#32948on Web ===
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Well here goes my 2 cents worth.
I am a mechanic on a Sport Biplane that we race in Reno each year, we
are running dual p-mags, and have not had any issues with them at all.
And when they needed a circuit board fix they took care of it right
away.
Cars have been running electronic ignitions for over 30 years now and
the technology is not that new. I suspect that by the time E-mag comes
out with there 6 cylinder model they should have it relatively working
smooth.
I talked to e-mag at Oshkosh this past summer, and got to see their
version of the Bendix Dual mage replacement p-mag. They are building 2
mags in 1 housing for the single mag 4 cyl motor that came with the
Bendix dual mag. I do believe that is what there trying to get
certified.
I was told that the housing for the six cyl mag will be almost identical
as the Bendix dual mag replacement p-mag. So that puts some light into
the process.
So I a thinking about either dual p-mags for the io-540 or Slick mags
with the G-3 Electronic ignition system.
John Cumins
40864 Emp Wings Making Aileron Hinge brackets so much fun!!! Deburr
Deburr
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
Seems odd that they would be holding out for certification before
releasing the experimental version. They could be gathering data from
units in the field to support their certification process. Although
I=99ve also been hearing about how they were working towards
certification for as long as I=99ve been hearing about the 6cyl
version. They are certainly not without their problems if you do a
little due diligence, Marc Zeitlin has wrote up his experiences in the
past. Not that any of them are perfect.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:12 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I was on the phone with E-Mag this morning and to their credit each time
I have asked them when the 6 cylinder version would be released they
never promised a date so as to not disappoint. That being said the 6
cylinder version at SNF 2011 will be a sample to hold, feel, review but
not be available for sale. The reason they are taking so long as they
are shooting for certification on the 6 cylinder version which gives me
a much warmer fuzzy feeling. He did say they would most likely be
releasing the experimental version prior to certification but I suspect
the differences if any will be minor.
I have a 4 cylinder version on my 200 Hp IO-360 that had been pickled
for 10 years before first start. Started on the second blade.
I have been on the 6 cylinder =9Clist=9D for well over 2
years.
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
carl.froehlich@verizon.net
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:18 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at
Sun&Fun. I put an order in for two.
As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any
engine. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up.
Carl
Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
-----Original message-----
From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00
Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for
my
RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
this....Thanks
--------
Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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I should have been clearer. I believe what they have in mind is for them to
get to a point where they feel confident that the certified version is or
will be certified and then release the experimental version based on the
certified specs but maybe without the final certified stamp of approval.
Again I THINK they feel they can eliminate most of the issues this way vs.
selling R&D experimental units and having the same problem most EI=99
s have at
introduction which is Plug & Pray, the source of most consumer complaints
and the occasional off field landing.
As far as issues with the 4 cylinder version that was definitely true early
on. I am not sure how many 4 cylinder versions have issues out of the box
today but I have not read or heard of much grumbling for many years.
I chose to get 1 P-Mag & 1 Mag for my 8A and will do the same for my -10
once the 6 cylinder version is available. I know I can limp home on 1 mag.
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV Builder (Michael
Sausen)
*Sent:* Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:50 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
Seems odd that they would be holding out for certification before
releasing the experimental version. They could be gathering data from unit
s
in the field to support their certification process. Although I=99ve
also
been hearing about how they were working towards certification for as long
as I=99ve been hearing about the 6cyl version. They are certainly no
t without
their problems if you do a little due diligence, Marc Zeitlin has wrote up
his experiences in the past. Not that any of them are perfect.
Michael
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Robin Marks
*Sent:* Thursday, February 03, 2011 4:12 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I was on the phone with E-Mag this morning and to their credit each time I
have asked them when the 6 cylinder version would be released they never
promised a date so as to not disappoint. That being said the 6 cylinder
version at SNF 2011 will be a sample to hold, feel, review but not be
available for sale. The reason they are taking so long as they are shooting
for certification on the 6 cylinder version which gives me a much warmer
fuzzy feeling. He did say they would most likely be releasing the
experimental version prior to certification but I suspect the differences i
f
any will be minor.
I have a 4 cylinder version on my 200 Hp IO-360 that had been pickled for 1
0
years before first start. Started on the second blade.
I have been on the 6 cylinder =9Clist=9D for well over 2 years.
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *
carl.froehlich@verizon.net
*Sent:* Thursday, February 03, 2011 1:18 PM
*To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at Sun&Fun.
I put an order in for two.
As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any
engine. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up.
Carl
Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
-----Original message-----
*From: *Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>*
Sent: *Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00*
Subject: *RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
Robin
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my
RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
this....Thanks
--------
Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
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I have 325 trouble free hours in my lightspeed w mag setup and I wouldn't ch
ange it for anything else. 661G Robert
Robert Brunkenhoefer
Sent from my Apple iPad
On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:17 PM, "carl.froehlich@verizon.net" <carl.froehlich@ver
izon.net> wrote:
> I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at Sun&Fun.
I put an order in for two.
>
> As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any engin
e. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up.
>
> Carl
>
> Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Robin Marks <Robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
> At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system for my
> RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
> this....Thanks
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329487#329487
>
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| Subject: | Re: electronic ignition |
I believe the release of the 6 cylinder Pmag was announced a couple
of months ago. I know I saw an article or news release about it. It
had pricing info, but I don't recall what it was.
David Maib
40559
flying
On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:36 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
> At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system
> for my
> RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
> this....Thanks
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329487#329487
>
>
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The Pmag would be my choice. I am in no hurry since my Lightspeed/mag
setup is working great, but I will probably change to dual Pmags at
some point.
David Maib
40559
flying
On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:21 PM, greghale wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system
> for my RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to
> check into this....Thanks
>
> --------
> Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> www.nwacaptain.com
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329487#329487
>
>
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I recently did my first engine run (Stock IO-540 from Van's) with G3
installed. Fired on the second blade and ran very smooth. I have only
run the engine twice for about 5 minutes each time to do basic leak and
sensor checks.
I did not notice any appreciable change in RPM with G3 switched on or
off while running. Just ran smooth in either case. I will know more
after I get it in the air, hopefully later this month or in March.
David Leikam
RV10
N89DA
On Feb 3, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Ross Wendell wrote:
> I thoughts on the g 3 system
>
> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 21:56:59 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: electronic ignition
>
>
> It's interesting that you ordered 2 of something that isn't
> even available yet, especially given your Lightspeed experience.
> I would never order 2 of anything, given that Lightspeed works
> great with only 1. But, I had thought I'd get eMags/pMags
> way back in 2004-2005, and they were promising them shortly
> back then. It could be a good thing that they waited
> this long, but then again, what kinds of problems were
> there that caused this long of a delay? They certainly
> have had the pent up demand for many years...so it isn't
> lack of interest. I was really interested in them,
> but they too have had issues.
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
> do not archive
>
>
> On 2/3/2011 3:17 PM, carl.froehlich@verizon.net wrote:
> > I got a note from eMag that they will have the 6 cylinder pMag at
> > Sun&Fun. I put an order in for two.
> >
> > As a former dual Lightspeed owner, I'll never again put those on any
> > engine. I now have 300 trouble free hours on my 8A dual pMag set up.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
> >
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> >
> > *From: *Robin Marks *
> > To: *rv10-list@matronics.com*
> > Sent: *Thu, Feb 3, 2011 20:36:41 GMT+00:00*
> > Subject: *RE: RV10-List: electronic ignition
> >
> >
> > I keep waiting for the 6 cylinder P-Mag.
> > At this rate I will be able to mount one in my RV-18.
> >
> > Robin
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of greghale
> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:22 PM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: electronic ignition
> >
> >
> > Can anyone give me some advice on a good electronic ignition system
> > for my
> > RV10? I will be going to Sun n Fun this year and want to check into
> > this....Thanks
> >
> > --------
> > Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
> > www.nwacaptain.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Read this topic online here:
> >
> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=329487#329487
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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