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Thu 07/21/11


Total Messages Posted: 9



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:11 AM - Re: GPS antenna (AirMike)
     2. 03:49 AM - Re: Re: -10 Plans (Pierre van der Merwe)
     3. 06:05 AM - Tie downs and local OSH events (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     4. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: GPS antenna (pilotdds)
     5. 08:21 AM - Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (kevino)
     6. 09:24 AM - Re: My "fix" for dragging brakes (Phillip Perry)
     7. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Matt Dralle)
     8. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... (Phil Barnette)
     9. 02:41 PM - Re: -10 Plans (charliewaffles)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:11:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS antenna
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    My Garmin 496 antenna is mounted on the top of the instrument panel and gets a good signal all the time. I saw a lot of nice installations inside the rear part of the cowl, but was concerned about the heat accumulating there after engine shutdown affecting the wire and antenna! -------- See you OSH '11 Q/B - flying 1 yr+ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347264#347264


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    Time: 03:49:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: -10 Plans
    From: "Pierre van der Merwe" <Pierre@xoncoastal.co.za>
    Hi Shannon Thanks for your trouble. I'd appreciate access as I am currently busy with the emp - #41049. Kind Regards Pierre van der Merwe Regional Director c +27 83 555 5080 t + 27 21 591 6901 f +27 21 591 6905 e pierre@xoncoastal.co.za <mailto:jjordaan@xon.co.za> 131 Vasco Boulevard, N1 City, Goodwood, South Africa PO Box 12958, N1 CITY, 7463, South Africa www.xon.co.za <http://www.xon.co.za/> "The information contained in this communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the user of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or taking action in reliance of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. The Employer is neither liable for the proper, complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt". From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shannon Hicks Sent: 20 July 2011 07:59 PM Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans I just spoke with Van's and they do not have a problem with me sharing the plans with other -10 builders. They just don't want them accessible to everyone in the world with an internet connection. If anyone would like to have access to them, please email me directly along with your builder number and I will get you access to the plans. Shannon On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Matthew Collier <ivdiggs@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans Shannon, How about making them available to anyone with a valid RV-10 customer number with Vans? I think it would be a very helpful option Van's could even offer if you sent them the file. Matthew RV-10 phase 1 flight testing On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:08 AM, <civeng123@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Guys. I was afraid that there might be some copyright issues involved. Right now I have them in my Google Docs with access restricted to only those that have permission. Right now, that is just me and a friend that is helping me out. It is handy to have them available when away from the hanger if a question or concern comes up. Shannon On , Pascal <rv10flyer@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Actually Tim took it down a year ago. It is not legal to copy the plans and > distribute. > > The best suggestion is ask Vans if you can do it and if so, do it and state > so. > > Pascal > > > > > > > From: DLM > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 7:30 AM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV10-List: -10 Plans > > > > > > > > Check Tim's site . already done. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > Shannon > Hicks > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 6:59 > AM > > Subject: RV10-List: -10 Plans > > > I have started scanning all of my -10 plans for my own > personal use and was wondering if there would be any issues with making them > available for everyone to see. > > Thanks for your > input. > > Shannon > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/c > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution"> http://www.matronics.com/c > > > > >========= > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:05:19 AM PST US
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    Subject: Tie downs and local OSH events
    If anyone gets to OSH and discovers they need tiedowns, EAA Chapter 444 sells tiedowns that are similar to what Paul describes below at the tiedown shack near homebuilt parking. They are based on the design in the article below and they have sold thousands of these and have never had a complaint that I'm aware of. Many were in use down at Lakeland this year and no one lost their aircraft because of them. I know this sounds like a shameless plug but this is the primary revenue driver for the chapter for the year and I can't see spending the money on the Claw or others when these work just as good. They are $20 for purchase or you can "rent" them by returning them for $10 back at the end of the show. http://www.airventure.org/planning/tying_down.html Another shameless plug, W34 (30 miles due north from OSH) is having their annual fly-in on Sat/Sun this week. It's one of the best kept grass strips in the state. They have live music on Sat and breakfast on Sunday. More info below. http://www.shioctonairport.com/Fly-In.html Lastly, 68C has decided to have their famous Friday lunch this year during Airventure. They usually don't but due to popular demand they have decided to go ahead and have it this year. This is one of the best lunches in the area and if you want to get out of OSH for an afternoon, head up there. http://netnet.net/~wjknjan/ Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Bowmar Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Abe's Tiedowns for OSH I bet my tie downs would surpass any and didn't cost three bills. I cut 1/2 inch rebar in 25 inch lengths. Grind a point on one end and heat the other end with a torch to form a loop. I drive them into the ground near each other at a 45 degree angle so that when fully in the gowned the loops are together. Easy to tie the rope through. They are next to impossible to pull out either straight up or at an angle. And as recommended by the FAA, they go into the ground about 18 inches. and I drive them into the ground outward and foreword of the wing ties and behind the tail. Ah, weight you say. Yes, nine pounds for all six rebar and a ball peen to drive them in. 2.8 less than Abe's. I have used these for years at Osh and elsewhere without any problems. I hope the photos I have attached come through. If anybody is interested in more info, please contact me offline. My worries at Osh is not that my rebar tie downs will hold, but what the guy next to is using. I made these many years ago after surmising that all the products I saw commercially sold were inadequate. Paul RV-4 67KB On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Tim Olson wrote: > > After the disaster at Sun-N-Fun where the planes flipped all over the > place, I paid attention to the stuff going on when the discussion > turned to tiedowns. At the time, Aviation Consumer decided to test > them after the big blow and get feedback too, from sun-n-fun > attenders. So they did a tie-down comparison and basically the thrust > of it was that The Claw was probably just slightly on top as the best. > But, then came info about the Storm Force tie down, which purported to > be better yet. > > So I watched with interest because I really care about my plane and > care not to have it thrashed at OSH, and every year... > and I mean EVERY year, we get at least one storm going through that > scares the heck out of me. (Remember that bozo with the stuck horn in > camp scholler that sounded like a tornado horn > that one year?) So I wanted to make sure that whatever I > had, it was very very good, if not the best I could practically do. > > Well, after Aviation Consumer did that review, a couple others that > they hadn't heard about were made known to them. > One of them was Abe's Tiedowns...one that I had never heard of. As it > turns out, Abe's tiedowns were vastly stronger than the other > offerings when they tested them. > > You can go to Abe's Aviation site here, and see the Aviation Consumer > review and test. http://www.abesaviation.com/ (actually, it looks > like the link on their site has gotten mixed up but either google it > or go to youtube here) > > Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIuYK_eEQ9c > Google: "Aviation Consumer's Tiedown Shootout" > > The way the test turned out, they used an engine hoist to test them, > and the Abe's were so strong that the engine hoist wouldn't do it > without tipping over so they hooked up a truck, and pulled to 1000lbs > and the tires on the truck spun without pulling the tiedown anchors > out. > I was pretty impressed, and I'd never even heard of them before. > > The Abe's set aren't cheap...I bought the deluxe-5 set that costs > $305, but there are cheaper options if you wish. I got them last week > and opened them up and saw that they were really nice, made of > stainless. They're going to be a little heavier in the 5-set that I > got, than my claw set, but the anchoring hold is much much stronger. > My thought is that if I were going somewhere for a simple overnight, > perhaps I'd take the claw for weight savings if it were an issue (it's > only about 3 lbs less). But sometimes you're traveling to a place > like OSH. At OSH, you can't really just LEAVE if a storm is imminent. > The rules don't allow it, and you can't just get up at 9pm and decide > to bug out before a huge line of storms is coming. So for a show like > OSH, I don't want my plane flying around into someone else's, or > flipping over, and I'd gladly haul the best tiedown anchors I could > get for such a show. I know, it's paranoid, but it did just happen at > OSH. > > So anyway, I thought I'd pass on the note, since I wasn't aware of > them. I was impressed enough that I asked Abe's guy to send me some > flyers that I can set down by the plane next to the tiedowns, to have > something for people to grab if they are interested in such a thing. > I know it might not be something you could get in time for OSH, unless > you scramble, but for builders who don't have them, you may want to > stop over and take a peek. > > Just thought I'd pass that along. > Tim > > -- > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:27:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GPS antenna
    From: pilotdds <pilotdds@aol.com>
    My 430w ant is mounted on the glareshield near the trutrak ant-no problems in roughly 5 years full confidence for instrument approaches. -----Original Message----- From: AirMike <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> Sent: Thu, Jul 21, 2011 12:12 am Subject: RV10-List: Re: GPS antenna My Garmin 496 antenna is mounted on the top of the instrument panel and get s a ood signal all the time. I saw a lot of nice installations inside the rear part f the cowl, but was concerned about the heat accumulating there after engin e hutdown affecting the wire and antenna! -------- ee you OSH '11 /B - flying 1 yr+ ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347264#347264 -= - The RV10-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - -======================== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -========================


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    Time: 08:21:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives...
    From: "kevino" <kevino@worldwarehouse.com>
    Possible to attach the manual here? Am wanting to buy this but did want to review the manual. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347306#347306


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    Time: 09:24:29 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: My "fix" for dragging brakes
    From: Phillip Perry <philperry9@gmail.com>
    A day or two late, but here are some details on the mod. I shot a video on my brake lines and someone noticed the return springs. At the bottom of this thread is a narrative description. http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=63149 The single best thing one could do is bend the flanges of the pedals inward so the bolt holes are perfectly aligned. This eliminates all binding caused by misaligned boles on both sides of the pedal. Once they're aligned there is absolutely no binding and the pedal is free to do anything it wants. I don't think I even need the return springs now, but since they are there and I already spent the money on them - I left them. Phil On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Phil Perry <philperry9@gmail.com> wrote: > It was me. I'll see if I can find some old write ups and photos of the > mod. It was easy, cheap, and effective. If I were building another one, > I'd do the same thing again. > > Phil > > > On Jul 19, 2011, at 4:05 PM, "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" < > rvbuilder@sausen.net> wrote: > > rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > > > I forgot who did that but I've seen it before and it is what I plan to > do. > > > > Michael > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters > > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:23 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV10-List: My "fix" for dragging brakes > > > > --> <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> > > > > Your spring idea is good. However placing a compression spring over the > cylinder shaft would be lighter and maybe more effective solution. > > Linn > > > > On 7/19/2011 3:53 PM, billz wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "billz"<billz@roadrunner.com> > >> > >> I've been reading about the various dragging brake issues on the forum, > talked with several folks and experienced the problem with a friend's RV-10. > >> > >> 1. I found out, from the folks at Matco, that it is critical for the > master cylinder to fully extend when pressure is removed from the brake > pedals. The last 1/16th in. of piston extension is needed for fluid to > bypass internally allowing the brake pads to retract. It doesn't take much > to keep pressure on the brake pads. My friend fixed his with a spring > arrangement on the pedals. > >> > >> 2. I also learned that minimizing friction in the brake pedals is > important. They should move freely with no binding. All bolt holes should > be properly drilled to assure free movement. The bolts should not be overly > tightened, to minimize drag. > >> > >> 3. The Van's design uses two short AN3 bolts on each side of the bottom > of the pedals. This can result in some minor twisting that can add > resistance to the pedal movement. Matco suggested replacing these with one > long bolt. (I purchased AN3-60 bolts, $10 each) I also used some aluminum > tubing over the bolt to provide a spacer inside the pedal flanges. I found > springs at McMaster (part # 9271K542 and 9271K542, 270 deg, left and right > hand). These were put over the through bolt and aluminum tube. The springs > I settled on (to get enough return force) were larger inside diameter than > the aluminum tube so I found some old garden hose to put over the tubing as > a spacer. > >> > >> As you can see from the pictures, the springs provide return force and > work nicely to provide positive pressure on the pedal and master cylinders. > So far, it seems like a "no drag" configuration. Since I'm not flying, a > final report will have to wait for the future. Does all this make sense > from what others have learned from experience?? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Read this topic online here: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347079#347079 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Attachments: > >> > >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1388_336.jpg > >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1387_104.jpg > >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_1386_109.jpg > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:46:09 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives...
    At 08:17 AM 7/21/2011 Thursday, you wrote: > >Possible to attach the manual here? Am wanting to buy this but did want to review the manual. I put it here for my own personal reference: http://www.matronics.com/MattsRV8/ADS600-B-InstallationManual240-0008-00-14.pdf Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...


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    Time: 09:53:42 AM PST US
    From: Phil Barnette <barnettephillip@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives...
    U Sent from my iPhone On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:32 PM, "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Corrections to after additional input from Navworx... > > ADS600B connection list for GRT HX: > > ADS600: Maint Port RX-Pin 4 --- To DB9 for PC > ADS600: Maint Port TX-Pin 22 --- To DB9 for PC > ADS600: Maint Port GND-Pin28 --- To DB9 for PC > > ADS600: ALT Enc Serial RX-Pin 7 --- To GRT DU1A-Pin1 (Serial Out 6) > ADS600: ALT TIS TX-Pin 25 --- Not Connected (provided by Display) > ADS600: ALT Enc GND-Pin6 --- To GRT DU1A-Pin17 GND > ADS600: Display Serial TX-Pin 5 --- To GRT DU1B,2A,3A-Pin23 (Serial IN 7) > ADS600: Display Serial RX-Pin 24 --- To GRT DU2B-Pin22 (Serial OUT 7) > Wire for future GRT support. Disable Serial OUT 7. > > ~~~ Other connections are > > ADS600: ARINC IN1B-Pin28 --- To GTX330 ARINC OUT2B-Pin28 > ADS600: ARINC IN1A-Pin09 --- To GTX330 ARINC OUT2A-Pin30 > ADS600: UAT Fail OUT-Pin 14 --- Wire to ext connector for future use > ADS600: Transponder Suppression OUT-Pin35 --- Not connected > (provided by GTX330 ARINC) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347209#347209 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 02:41:58 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: -10 Plans
    From: "charliewaffles" <mcooper@live.com>
    Tim stll has these online for confirmed builders. Www.myrv10.com. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347342#347342




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