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0. 12:23 AM - Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution Today! (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:08 AM - Re: Navworx update (Rob Kermanj)
2. 07:49 AM - Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? (Bill Watson)
3. 08:58 AM - Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? ()
4. 09:57 AM - Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? (dmaib@me.com)
5. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? (Bill Watson)
6. 10:54 AM - Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? (Bill Watson)
7. 11:00 AM - Anyone had success with Matronics Fuel Flow Pulsation Damper (Bill Watson)
8. 11:02 AM - Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? (Tom Hanaway)
9. 11:18 AM - Re: Anyone had success with Matronics Fuel Flow Pulsation Damper (Robin Marks)
10. 11:44 AM - Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? ()
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| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
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| Subject: | Re: Navworx update |
$2500 box, GPS antenna and wiring; figure under $3K.
do not archive
Rob Kermanj
On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:53 PM, Danny Riggs wrote:
> How much are they?
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> > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Navworx update
> > From: rv@thelefflers.com
> > Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 21:06:01 -0400
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
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> > It took 6-8 weeks to get mine. I ordered in June thinking I would
miss the osh rush. No such luck.
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> > Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Nov 4, 2011, at 6:00 PM, Bill Watson <Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
wrote:
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<Mauledriver@nc.rr.com>
> > >
> > > Can't wait... any sense of out their shipments are running? I
ordered Sept 30. Meant to call them today.
> > >
> > > Bill "I love my panel, I love my engine, I love the RV10" Watson
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/4/2011 1:30 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
> > >> I have installed my Navwox ADS-B and am very pleased with it's
performance.
> > >>
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| Subject: | Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? |
Is the helicoil 'kit' still in circulation? Lew G. was gracious enough
to get it going... if it's still available, I'd like to get it.
(the rest of this is OT)
We just did our first long trip down to FL and we're quickly making the
transition from tailwheel to tricycle gear operations. With a trike,
I'm discovering that most mid-size FBOs operate by having you park
wherever, unload, kibitz, or whatever.. .then they tow your Pride & Joy
to wherever for the rest of your stay. Okay, I get that, but I want a
big fat protruding stud for whatever array of tow bars they may have on
hand. The recessed bolt heat is just too obscure for anonymous handling.
For those of you that have never used a tailwheel aircraft to operate in
and out of larger FBO operations, a unique aspect is that generally,
line people and especially front desk people don't know what to do with
you.
With that in mind, we used to play a game when operating at mid-size to
large FBOs called, "let's see if we can avoid ramp and overnight fees by
staying under the radar".
Now understand, we have yet to see a ramp fee that I thought was really
inappropriate. We may not want to pay it but compared to say, parking
in Manhattan, parking our P&J near a place I want to go has some real
value. Throw in a bathroom, internet access, coffee and a comfortable
chair in out of the rain, paying 8-10-12-18 or even 25 bucks for an
overnight stay or even a short stop is not all that bad. In fact, it
should be cheerfully accepted and appreciated. Okay, the deal at KEYW
where it's $30 a night but only $15 if you buy fuel - 50% off no matter
how many days or gallons are involved - was a bit off-putting, but we
still like to play the game.
In any case the first step for the Maule is to tell the line guy what
you intend to do at shut down, "we'll unload here but afterwards, I'll
taxi it over there if I can find some rope. Otherwise, we'll park in
the grass and use our tie downs... is that ok?" That generally causes
the line to disengage and we start to become a UFO.
Then we do the usual sign-in at the front desk. If we need fuel, we
explain that we'll order it before leaving. Our departure is indeterminate.
"Okay, we'll park the plane for you and you can just call us when ready
to leave"
"Well, no, we already did... we have a tail wheel Maule and tied it down
in the lower forty"
"Oh, okay" (inflection varies here and is noted for later use)
The game has begun. The key to winning at larger FBOs is understanding
that ordering the tow out for loading is often the initiator of the
billing process. If we need gas, we order it, often go out to
supervise, but we get the gas loaded while tied down then pay for it.
Or if SS, we just taxi out to it. The front desk is generally tasked
with making the call(s) required to get your craft ready for departure.
When they start the process, one can usually interject and just say, "we
have a tailwheel, so they can't move it (or untie it, or otherwise talk
to it), so we'll just go out and get it"
"uh, okay"
"Thanks"
There are many variations;
"I have your N-number but not sure where it's tied down... what's a maul?"
"it's in the grass, used my own stakes, I'll go get it"
.....minutes later, a UFO departs....
Notes & Disclaimers:
This works better the bigger the FBO, the city, and the airport.
Fees generally not applied for weather escapes no matter who you are
Many front desk people would rather not to have to deal with charging
you anyway.
YMMV
Bill "transitioned from building to flying & maintaining" Watson
(though I'm still going to take another whack at the pilot side door pin
fit)
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| Subject: | Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? |
Hey Bill "flying and loving it" Watson,
The Helicoil kit is currently being used by Byron in GA. When it gets back,
it will need new coil inserts, so I'll replenish those and get it on to you.
I would recommend that you get the longer tow studs, spacer, large washer
that I documented before so that tow jockies dont have to bang up your
paint trying to get the bar in the blind hole. Let me know if you missed
this.
Later, - Lew
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Watson
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation?
Is the helicoil 'kit' still in circulation? Lew G. was gracious enough
to get it going... if it's still available, I'd like to get it.
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| Subject: | Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? |
Great FBO advice, Bill. I agree that having to pay the occasional reasonable tie
down or ramp fee is not that bad a deal when the facilities and services are
considered. Of course, if I don't have to pay it I am happy. Pilots n' Paws flights
seem to always have ramp fees waived whether fuel is purchased, or not.
We are heading down to KEYW next week for three days. Not too sure why I feel the
need to "get away" from my full time gig as "retired", but I am looking forward
to it! :D
do not archive
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=357022#357022
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| Subject: | Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? |
Enjoy! We certainly did.
I'm between jobs right now myself and will be officially retired by
month end. Guess we'll need to go back to KEYW soon.
Bill
On 11/5/2011 12:54 PM, dmaib@me.com wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "dmaib@me.com"<dmaib@me.com>
>
> Great FBO advice, Bill. I agree that having to pay the occasional reasonable
tie down or ramp fee is not that bad a deal when the facilities and services are
considered. Of course, if I don't have to pay it I am happy. Pilots n' Paws
flights seem to always have ramp fees waived whether fuel is purchased, or not.
>
> We are heading down to KEYW next week for three days. Not too sure why I feel
the need to "get away" from my full time gig as "retired", but I am looking forward
to it! :D
>
> do not archive
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
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| Subject: | Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? |
I did read about the studs and stuff last night but not really clear on
the specifics. As I understand it, we're putting helicoils in the stud
holes so they don't wear out too fast. I know zero about helicoils but
I'm guessing that changes the thread size (? or not?).
In any case, I'll just need a longer hex head bolt and some combination
of spacers and washers (flattened lock or otherwise) to tighten down
on. Sound like you positioned large washers to prevent the tow bar from
hitting the fiberglass. Sound right?
Bill
On 11/5/2011 11:56 AM, lewgall@charter.net wrote:
>
> Hey Bill "flying and loving it" Watson,
>
> The Helicoil kit is currently being used by Byron in GA. When it gets
> back, it will need new coil inserts, so I'll replenish those and get
> it on to you.
>
> I would recommend that you get the longer tow studs, spacer, large
> washer that I documented before so that tow jockies dont have to bang
> up your paint trying to get the bar in the blind hole. Let me know if
> you missed this.
>
> Later, - Lew
>
>
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| Subject: | Anyone had success with Matronics Fuel Flow Pulsation Damper |
Has anyone installed this:
http://www.matronics.com/fuelchec/damper.html
to reduce the inaccuracies caused by mounting the fuel flow transducer
too close to the boost pump?
I definitely have the problem though it's not really that bad given that
the boost pump is on only for short periods relative to long cross
country trips. The error is in a conservative direction and so far is
insignificant.
...but I'd still like to reduce the inaccuracy if I can do it without
relocating the thing.
Bill
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| Subject: | Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? |
Lew,
Please repost or send me directly info on longer tow studs, spacer, etc. recommendations
you mention.
Also, I'd like to get put on the list for the Helicoil Kit after Bill W.
Thanks,
Tom Hanaway
1029 Fosters Mill Road
Boynton Beach, FL 33436
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of lewgall@charter.net
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation?
Hey Bill "flying and loving it" Watson,
The Helicoil kit is currently being used by Byron in GA. When it gets back, it
will need new coil inserts, so I'll replenish those and get it on to you.
I would recommend that you get the longer tow studs, spacer, large washer that
I documented before so that tow jockies dont have to bang up your paint trying
to get the bar in the blind hole. Let me know if you missed this.
Later, - Lew
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Watson
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:46 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation?
Is the helicoil 'kit' still in circulation? Lew G. was gracious enough to get
it going... if it's still available, I'd like to get it.
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| Subject: | Anyone had success with Matronics Fuel Flow Pulsation |
Damper
I vaguely recall someone trying it ~3 years ago with minimal success. The real
answer is relocating the FF transducer but you already knew that. :)
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:58 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Anyone had success with Matronics Fuel Flow Pulsation Damper
Has anyone installed this:
http://www.matronics.com/fuelchec/damper.html
to reduce the inaccuracies caused by mounting the fuel flow transducer too close
to the boost pump?
I definitely have the problem though it's not really that bad given that the boost
pump is on only for short periods relative to long cross country trips. The
error is in a conservative direction and so far is insignificant.
...but I'd still like to reduce the inaccuracy if I can do it without relocating
the thing.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Helicoil kit for nose wheel - still in circulation? |
Hey Bill, Byron, Tom,
I use the same type of bolt Van's sends, but 2.5 inches long (measured from
the thread end to the shoulder) -- same thread. If you can't find a source
for the bolts, I can send them to you. Then a spacer cut to your exact
length so that when placed on the aluminum block Van's has you make, it
extends the stud heads beyond the surface of the pants, such that when you
put a big flat washer on top of the spacer (to prevent the tow bar from
sliding into the hole), the washer is flush with the pants. I made the
washer, hole in the fiberglass such that no metal touches the fiberglass.
Paint the washer/stud the same color as the pants and it is barely
noticeable.
The helocoil kit uses a slightly oversize bit (included) to drill out the
original threads, then a slightly oversize tap to fit the coil inserts,
which puts the threads back to the original size of the bolt. I have
included loctite to insure the insert doesn't move once inserted.
Therefore, you have stainless steel threads instead of aluminum. I had
trouble aligning the bolts through the hole while jiggling the pants, etc.
and didn't want to take the chance of cross threading the bolts in aluminum,
stripping them out, then trying to access all this at an inopportune time!
It works just fine. Just be very careful tapping aluminum. It tends to
bind, so I go barely 1/4 turn before backing it off to clear the burr. A
little patience and you're done.
This kit is a bit pricey for just two holes, so I'm renting it out for $5
plus postage (usually less than $8 total). Yes, forwarding it to the next
on the list works just like the traveling countersink for the cabin top
seatbelt bolts, and incurs just my first postage fee. Just email me your
address in a personal message and I'll make sure the address for the next on
the list gets to whoever has it presently, then back to me eventually.
Let me know if you have questions.
Later, - Lew
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