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1. 12:45 AM - VS808PP lightening holes (MICK MULLER)
2. 02:22 AM - Re: Nose leg bolt (Steve Sampson)
3. 04:01 AM - Re: Nose leg bolt (larry-perryman)
4. 07:28 AM - R-710 Issue (Pete Howell)
5. 08:54 AM - Re: RV9-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/24/03 (Jill and Tom Welch)
6. 09:00 AM - Re: R-710 Issue (Merems)
7. 10:47 AM - Re: VS808PP lightening holes (Richard E. Tasker)
8. 11:46 AM - Re: VS808PP lightening holes (Ken Moak)
9. 02:12 PM - Re: VS808PP lightening holes (Ted Strand)
10. 07:54 PM - wing tip rib (Gary Crowder)
11. 08:01 PM - Re: R-710 Issue (Peter Laurence)
12. 08:21 PM - Re: VS808PP lightening holes (RV-Niner-Alpha)
13. 08:32 PM - Re: VS808PP lightening holes (DThomas773@aol.com)
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| Subject: | VS808PP lightening holes |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
Greetings Listers,
The plans for the vertical stabiliser has lightening holes for the
doubler VS808PP shown on the drawing no 6 with instructions that they are
optional. How many of you cut out the two large holes and 5 smaller holes?
On another matter, a mate of mine and myself flew up to Bundaberg in Nth
Queensland OZ, home of Jabiru for an airshow this past weekend. I had a
chance to have a close look at the RV6 in which they have installed the 8
cylinder engine. I couldn't convince anyone to let me fly it, but it sounded
beeewtifulll. The guys working on it say its performing well, and the
production version will be even better. It took off during the air show and
from ground level performed excellently. I will have one of those in my 9A.
Mick Muller
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson" <SSampson.SLN21@london.edu>
Clay/Ernest/Gary - thanks for all those useful answers. I wish I had asked
before I started.
Gary I nearly went the 'dent' solution and wish I had but I have drilled a
3/4" hole exactly where the plans indicated, though it is a little lower
than needed. However the head of the bolt will not go through, though I
suspect it would if I drilled it out to the 1" specified in my plans. I have
found the stainless 'plug' which fits the 3/4" hole though I can not find a
plan which references it. (I wonder why they say cut a 1" hole - which would
work - then send a 3/4" plug? There is no revision which relates to this is
there?)
I guess I will have to go Ernest's 'plate' solution with a larger hole
unless there are 1" stainless plugs? Anyone know? (Ernest, which plan number
did you see the plug on?)
An alternate solution would be for me to cut one side off the head of the
bolt and use that. Would that be acceptable or very bad practice? The bolt
is in shear, not tension, so would only need to be torqued up firmly.
Steve
#90360
N Yorks., UK
PS What sort of place does one buy stainless sheet? Also, while I am
thinking about it, copper bar to connect the contactor to the solenoid? No
one got any copper in their FWF kit did they? This is the kit that supplies
'everything' to finish it off!
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "larry-perryman" <larry-perryman@txucom.net>
Regards
Larry Perryman
Steve,
Check with an electrician or electrical supply house for the cap. It does
not "have" to be stainless. A regular steel one would suffice.
Regards
Larry Perryman
N194DL
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Hello,
I am assembling the rudder skeleton and I think I might have goofed. The
R-710 rudder horn brace requires trimming as it comes from Vans. I did so,
using the punched holes as trim guides, but thinking the partial holes left
by cutting thru the middle would be stress problems, I filed the trimmed
edge smooth. I assembled and match drilled using the lower rib and skin as
a guide. Well, I disassembled to dimple and deburr, and found I did not
have much edge distance on the holes in the R-710 that I had just drilled.
Is there a way to remedy this, or do I need to order up a new R-710 from
Vans?
Thanks,
Pete
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| Subject: | Re: RV9-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 07/24/03 |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Jill and Tom Welch" <tomtana@centurytel.net>
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> 1. 07:51 PM - Are you still out there? (DThomas773@aol.com)
> 2. 08:54 PM - Re: Are you still out there? (Ken Moak)
> 3. 09:22 PM - Re: Are you still out there? (Gary Newsted)
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> Time: 07:51:32 PM PST US
> From: DThomas773@aol.com
> Subject: RV9-List: Are you still out there?
>
> --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
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> Hi Guys,
> I'm writing this because I'm lonely. The site is very quiet these days. I
> fear the active contributors have all finished thier planes and moved on.
> I have about 15 hours work in my canopy frame and canopy. It was not as
bad
> as I expected it to be but none the less a challenge. I have yet to do
the
> final trim on the rear window and then it's time to decide where to go
next. I
>
> think once the canopy (tip up ) and rear window are finished I will lay
out
> the panel and start at the engine mount.
> I made one mistake that cost me a bit of time. When we riveted the top
skins
> on the rear of the fuselage we went all the way to the rear of the cabin.
> The instructions, (which I neglected to study ahead) tell you to rivet
the
> forward top, just aft of the cabin, on afte the rear window ias fitted.
It still
>
> worked out.
> Dennis Thomas
> RV-9 taildragger
>
> Hi dennis,I think everyone hase been working on their projects.I am just
finishing my gear leg fairings and int, fairings .They are in my opinion the
hardest part of the plane(anyone that builds a glass plane has issues).I am
bown to wiring then hopfully I can move this thing to a hanger.
Tom Welch
RV-9 TG
Subaru
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> Time: 08:54:08 PM PST US
> From: Ken Moak <ken_moak@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: RV9-List: Are you still out there?
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> --> RV9-List message posted by: Ken Moak <ken_moak@yahoo.com>
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> You are right it has been quiet. I'm afraid most have
> gone to the Yahoo Group. Since I joined it I have
> started getting all kinds of spam, go figure.
>
> I'm just getting on the wings so I'm no help.
>
> Are you going to Oshkosh, I'm sure it is a little
> quiet as people prepare for the flyin.
>
> Ken
> Wings
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> --- DThomas773@aol.com wrote:
> > --> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
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> > Hi Guys,
> > I'm writing this because I'm lonely. The site is
> > very quiet these days. I
> > fear the active contributors have all finished thier
> > planes and moved on.
> > I have about 15 hours work in my canopy frame and
> > canopy. It was not as bad
> > as I expected it to be but none the less a
> > challenge. I have yet to do the
> > final trim on the rear window and then it's time to
> > decide where to go next. I
> > think once the canopy (tip up ) and rear window are
> > finished I will lay out
> > the panel and start at the engine mount.
> > I made one mistake that cost me a bit of time. When
> > we riveted the top skins
> > on the rear of the fuselage we went all the way to
> > the rear of the cabin.
> > The instructions, (which I neglected to study ahead)
> > tell you to rivet the
> > forward top, just aft of the cabin, on afte the rear
> > window ias fitted. It still
> > worked out.
> > Dennis Thomas
> > RV-9 taildragger
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> Time: 09:22:00 PM PST US
> From: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
> Subject: Re: RV9-List: Are you still out there?
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> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Newsted" <fcs@jlc.net>
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> Well I'll liven it up a little.... I've now logged 32 hours of rigorous
> flight testing in nine days! 8 more to go before departing for Oshkosh on
> monday. No sweat. Flown for hours at 10.5K, behind storms, high winds,
and
> great sunsets. She's performed flawlessly. I find myself with nothing
more
> to do but squirt it with polish and rub off the bugs. You're going to
love
> your 9's
> Hope to see some familiar names and faces at Airventure!
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> Gary
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Merems" <merems@cox.net>
How much edge distance do you have? I talked with Van's about this problem
before.
Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Subject: RV9-List: R-710 Issue
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Pete Howell"
<pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am assembling the rudder skeleton and I think I might have goofed. The
> R-710 rudder horn brace requires trimming as it comes from Vans. I did
so,
> using the punched holes as trim guides, but thinking the partial holes
left
> by cutting thru the middle would be stress problems, I filed the trimmed
> edge smooth. I assembled and match drilled using the lower rib and skin
as
> a guide. Well, I disassembled to dimple and deburr, and found I did not
> have much edge distance on the holes in the R-710 that I had just drilled.
> Is there a way to remedy this, or do I need to order up a new R-710 from
> Vans?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VS808PP lightening holes |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker@optonline.net>
I cut the holes.
Dick Tasker, 90573
Fuselage arrives while I'm at Oshkosh!
MICK MULLER wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
>
>Greetings Listers,
> The plans for the vertical stabiliser has lightening holes for the
>doubler VS808PP shown on the drawing no 6 with instructions that they are
>optional. How many of you cut out the two large holes and 5 smaller holes?
>On another matter, a mate of mine and myself flew up to Bundaberg in Nth
>Queensland OZ, home of Jabiru for an airshow this past weekend. I had a
>chance to have a close look at the RV6 in which they have installed the 8
>cylinder engine. I couldn't convince anyone to let me fly it, but it sounded
>beeewtifulll. The guys working on it say its performing well, and the
>production version will be even better. It took off during the air show and
>from ground level performed excellently. I will have one of those in my 9A.
>Mick Muller
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VS808PP lightening holes |
--> RV9-List message posted by: Ken Moak <ken_moak@yahoo.com>
I debated on the lightening holes. Looked on the RV8
plans (same VS)and it is not an option. So I decided
to think about it, strenght VS weight. I forgot and a
couple of days later I went back to work and set
several rivets before I relized I had not decided to
cut them so I decided to leave it alone rather than
drill the rivets out.
ken
Wings
--- MICK MULLER <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com> wrote:
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER"
> <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
>
> Greetings Listers,
> The plans for the vertical stabiliser has
> lightening holes for the
> doubler VS808PP shown on the drawing no 6 with
> instructions that they are
> optional. How many of you cut out the two large
> holes and 5 smaller holes?
> On another matter, a mate of mine and myself flew up
> to Bundaberg in Nth
> Queensland OZ, home of Jabiru for an airshow this
> past weekend. I had a
> chance to have a close look at the RV6 in which they
> have installed the 8
> cylinder engine. I couldn't convince anyone to let
> me fly it, but it sounded
> beeewtifulll. The guys working on it say its
> performing well, and the
> production version will be even better. It took off
> during the air show and
> from ground level performed excellently. I will have
> one of those in my 9A.
> Mick Muller
>
>
>
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| Subject: | VS808PP lightening holes |
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Ted Strand" <tstrand@strandcentral.com>
I cut them out also....
-Ted Strand-
N371N Reserved
Working on Tanks
Clearwater, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard E. Tasker [mailto:retasker@optonline.net]
Subject: Re: RV9-List: VS808PP lightening holes
--> RV9-List message posted by: "Richard E. Tasker"
<retasker@optonline.net>
I cut the holes.
Dick Tasker, 90573
Fuselage arrives while I'm at Oshkosh!
MICK MULLER wrote:
>--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK MULLER" <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com>
>
>Greetings Listers,
> The plans for the vertical stabiliser has lightening holes for
the
>doubler VS808PP shown on the drawing no 6 with instructions that they
are
>optional. How many of you cut out the two large holes and 5 smaller
holes?
>On another matter, a mate of mine and myself flew up to Bundaberg in
Nth
>Queensland OZ, home of Jabiru for an airshow this past weekend. I had a
>chance to have a close look at the RV6 in which they have installed the
8
>cylinder engine. I couldn't convince anyone to let me fly it, but it
sounded
>beeewtifulll. The guys working on it say its performing well, and the
>production version will be even better. It took off during the air show
and
>from ground level performed excellently. I will have one of those in my
9A.
>Mick Muller
>
>
>
>
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Gary Crowder" <rv9er@3rivers.net>
The plans say to cut a 2 1/4 inch hole in the little wingtip rib adjacent to the
tip of the aileron.
What is this for?
Gary
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--> RV9-List message posted by: "Peter Laurence" <plaurence@the-beach.net>
Pete
Mine were the same.
If you would like, I'll send some pics.
I'm went ahead and used it like this. There is plenty of bracing elsewhere.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Howell" <pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
Subject: RV9-List: R-710 Issue
> --> RV9-List message posted by: "Pete Howell"
<pete.howell@gecko-group.com>
>
> Hello,
>
> I am assembling the rudder skeleton and I think I might have goofed. The
> R-710 rudder horn brace requires trimming as it comes from Vans. I did
so,
> using the punched holes as trim guides, but thinking the partial holes
left
> by cutting thru the middle would be stress problems, I filed the trimmed
> edge smooth. I assembled and match drilled using the lower rib and skin
as
> a guide. Well, I disassembled to dimple and deburr, and found I did not
> have much edge distance on the holes in the R-710 that I had just drilled.
> Is there a way to remedy this, or do I need to order up a new R-710 from
> Vans?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: VS808PP lightening holes |
--> RV9-List message posted by: RV-Niner-Alpha <rv_niner_alpha@yahoo.com>
MICK MULLER <MULLERPHARM@bigpond.com> wrote:--> RV9-List message posted by: "MICK
MULLER"
Greetings Listers,
The plans for the vertical stabiliser has lightening holes for the
doubler VS808PP shown on the drawing no 6 with instructions that they are
optional. How many of you cut out the two large holes and 5 smaller holes?
I cut out the lightening holes and lightened the airframe by a grand total of 3
- 4 ounces; took about 1.5 hours to mark and cut. If I have to do it again I
may not bother; after completing the entire project and weighing-in I could have
a different answer.
Happy RVing...
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| Subject: | Re: VS808PP lightening holes |
--> RV9-List message posted by: DThomas773@aol.com
As I remember I cut out the lightening holes we are talking about and it was
not a big deal. When working on the fuselage (and I don;t remember where) The
plan mentioned an optional lightening hole. I thought it would make the
assembly a little weaker and so conducted a test on my own. I cut the same size
hole from the same thickness stock from some extra material, and then weighed
what I had cut out. It weighed about a quarter of an ounce. I have not cut
out any lightening holes since then.
Dennis Thomas
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