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1. 04:15 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 (Steve Glasgow)
2. 04:52 AM - Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Lenleg@aol.com)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (James Clark)
4. 05:17 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (sportav8r@aol.com)
5. 05:18 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (bill crothers)
6. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 (Randy Utsey)
7. 05:41 AM - Destinations (Randy Utsey)
8. 05:57 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (JohnCClarkVA@cs.com)
9. 06:04 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Marcus Cooper)
10. 06:25 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Ron and Shannon AWAD)
11. 07:46 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Lenleg@aol.com)
12. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 (Lenleg@aol.com)
13. 08:02 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Wayne Williams)
14. 08:04 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Lenleg@aol.com)
15. 08:17 AM - Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/15/06 (lee.logan@gulfstream.com)
16. 08:29 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Ron and Shannon AWAD)
17. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/15/06 (Ron and Shannon AWAD)
18. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 (Randy Utsey)
19. 09:52 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (sportav8r@aol.com)
20. 11:38 AM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 (Lenleg@aol.com)
21. 11:42 AM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Lance C. Arbuckle)
22. 12:34 PM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Lenleg@aol.com)
23. 12:35 PM - Mid Atlantic Fly In (Lenleg@aol.com)
24. 12:37 PM - tools and such (Lance C. Arbuckle)
25. 12:42 PM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Randy Utsey)
26. 12:55 PM - Re: tools and such (Lenleg@aol.com)
27. 01:38 PM - Re: Gascolotor (Paul D. Franzon)
28. 01:49 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (Lenleg@aol.com)
29. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (bill crothers)
30. 02:24 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (Steve Glasgow)
31. 02:29 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (sportav8r@aol.com)
32. 03:34 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (BOB martin)
33. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (Paul D. Franzon)
34. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (Ron and Shannon AWAD)
35. 05:36 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (bill crothers)
36. 05:44 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (Radomir Zaric)
37. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (Charlie England)
38. 05:51 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (bill crothers)
39. 05:54 PM - LAL (bill crothers)
40. 06:07 PM - Separation Anxiety (Larry Bowen)
41. 06:11 PM - Re: LAL (Larry Bowen)
42. 06:13 PM - Re: Separation Anxiety (Radomir Zaric)
43. 06:31 PM - Re: Separation Anxiety (Neal George)
44. 07:23 PM - Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question (Greg Vouga)
45. 07:23 PM - Re: Separation Anxiety (Ed Anderson)
46. 07:37 PM - Re: Re: Gascolotor (Scott Tanner)
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Dean they are working on it. I will let you know when we can get them. Here is
what I have so far.
Gentlemen
I am somewhat overwhelmed by the response to Doug Jr.'s article in the VAF
website. I will try to bring you all up to date with this note.
Due to your combined interest, the tailwheel from Doug's -8 was removed
from the plane and is on it's way today to an RV8 flier in a warmer climate
for some further testing. Our plane is snowbound and may not get out till
mid to late April. By then we hope to have another opinion as to the
quality and dependability of the design after testing has been finished.
I plan to start today bending steel for the forks (a very slow process)
and to follow this up with a few posts that will eventually be welded to
the forks to complete the start of the units. (This is in anticipation of a
good report from our testing department.) When they are ready, I'll take
them to a professional welder for assembly. When finished and painted, I
will send each of you who are now flying an RV ,or are getting close, one
of these assemblies. You can remove Van's fork and axle, slip this fork
unit into Van's bracket, mount your wheel and steering links and go fly.
Since I'm not set up for production, mine is a one man retirement shop,
all this is going to take a bit of time. I will try to get the flying
planes equipped first. If some of you find a different unit you wish to
try, go ahead, but please let me know so I can keep the list currant.
Price----nothing established yet but I hope to keep it very reasonable for
all concerned. I just enjoy making airplane parts. If you have questions,
just ask and I'll get right back to you.------(Doug, please don't show
these guys the golf club carry unit in your rear luggage bay, my time is
limited)
Doug Sr.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Demeylor@aol.com
To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
How do I go about Ordering a tail wheel? Dean
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| Subject: | Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Flew down to LBT to see my parents yesterday ... beautiful skies but lots of
bumps ... climbed to 5500' in search of smooth air ... only found pockets of
it ... BUT ... I did find one of the strongest tailwinds I have ever
experienced ... I was seeing 195kt ground speed at 21 inches of MP and only 2300
RPM
... I even pulled back a little for the bumps.
My airspeed question is this ... the indicated airspeed was about 155kts ...
well within normal range ... but the groudspeed was extremely high .. then I
was getting some very good bumps .... my concern was whether I was
approaching max speed ...
Is max speed ... only indicated airspeed or should you also be concerned
with groundspeed?
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: James Clark <jclarkmail@gmail.com>
I could be wrong but I think you want to worry about "true airspeed".
Remember when Spaceship One did those uncommanded rolls at Mach whatever, I
**think** Mike Melville said his true airspeed was around 140 kts! Thus the
airframe was OK.
James
(I saw 150+ kts in the Piper enroute to Florida yesterday.)
On 1/16/06, Lenleg@aol.com <Lenleg@aol.com> wrote:
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
> Flew down to LBT to see my parents yesterday ... beautiful skies but
> lots of
> bumps ... climbed to 5500' in search of smooth air ... only found pockets
> of
> it ... BUT ... I did find one of the strongest tailwinds I have ever
> experienced ... I was seeing 195kt ground speed at 21 inches of MP and
> only 2300 RPM
> ... I even pulled back a little for the bumps.
>
> My airspeed question is this ... the indicated airspeed was about
> 155kts ...
> well within normal range ... but the groudspeed was extremely high .. then
> I
> was getting some very good bumps .... my concern was whether I was
> approaching max speed ...
>
> Is max speed ... only indicated airspeed or should you also be concerned
> with groundspeed?
>
> Len
>
>
--
This is an alternate email. Please continue to email me at
james@nextupventures.com .
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
Guys, _don't_ tell him the answer ;-) If he throttles back every time he gets
a stiff tailwind, even us slower RV's will be able to do the Joan Baez on him-
you know, "blew by you."
C'mon, Leggs- you know the only time an airframe cares about groundspeed is when
it's in contact with the ground. You're not the guy who keeps re-starting the
deadly downwind turn thing on the internet, are you? ;-)
Just pullin' your chain, buddy. Have a good week & enjoy all those commercial
flights to Florida.
-Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Lenleg@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:51:54 EST
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Flew down to LBT to see my parents yesterday ... beautiful skies but lots of
bumps ... climbed to 5500' in search of smooth air ... only found pockets of
it ... BUT ... I did find one of the strongest tailwinds I have ever
experienced ... I was seeing 195kt ground speed at 21 inches of MP and only
2300 RPM
... I even pulled back a little for the bumps.
My airspeed question is this ... the indicated airspeed was about 155kts ...
well within normal range ... but the groudspeed was extremely high .. then I
was getting some very good bumps .... my concern was whether I was
approaching max speed ...
Is max speed ... only indicated airspeed or should you also be concerned
with groundspeed?
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
not to worry...the wind was carrying you forward
across gnd. at hi speed..had you been going other way,
you would be crawling vs. gnd, but still doing 155k+
in airstream.,
--- Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by:
> Lenleg@aol.com
>
> Flew down to LBT to see my parents yesterday ...
> beautiful skies but lots of
> bumps ... climbed to 5500' in search of smooth air
> ... only found pockets of
> it ... BUT ... I did find one of the strongest
> tailwinds I have ever
> experienced ... I was seeing 195kt ground speed at
> 21 inches of MP and only 2300 RPM
> ... I even pulled back a little for the bumps.
>
> My airspeed question is this ... the indicated
> airspeed was about 155kts ...
> well within normal range ... but the groudspeed was
> extremely high .. then I
> was getting some very good bumps .... my concern was
> whether I was
> approaching max speed ...
>
> Is max speed ... only indicated airspeed or should
> you also be concerned
> with groundspeed?
>
> Len
>
>
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>
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
I had heard there were some golf club modification, alterations out there.
Any pictures anywhere?
Randy Utsey
RV-7 working on the fuselage
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs -
01/10/06
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Dean they are working on it. I will let you know when we can get them.
> Here is what I have so far.
>
> Gentlemen
> I am somewhat overwhelmed by the response to Doug Jr.'s article in the VAF
> website. I will try to bring you all up to date with this note.
> Due to your combined interest, the tailwheel from Doug's -8 was removed
> from the plane and is on it's way today to an RV8 flier in a warmer
> climate
> for some further testing. Our plane is snowbound and may not get out till
> mid to late April. By then we hope to have another opinion as to the
> quality and dependability of the design after testing has been finished.
> I plan to start today bending steel for the forks (a very slow process)
> and to follow this up with a few posts that will eventually be welded to
> the forks to complete the start of the units. (This is in anticipation of
> a
> good report from our testing department.) When they are ready, I'll take
> them to a professional welder for assembly. When finished and painted, I
> will send each of you who are now flying an RV ,or are getting close, one
> of these assemblies. You can remove Van's fork and axle, slip this fork
> unit into Van's bracket, mount your wheel and steering links and go fly.
> Since I'm not set up for production, mine is a one man retirement shop,
> all this is going to take a bit of time. I will try to get the flying
> planes equipped first. If some of you find a different unit you wish to
> try, go ahead, but please let me know so I can keep the list currant.
> Price----nothing established yet but I hope to keep it very reasonable for
> all concerned. I just enjoy making airplane parts. If you have questions,
> just ask and I'll get right back to you.------(Doug, please don't show
> these guys the golf club carry unit in your rear luggage bay, my time is
> limited)
> Doug Sr.
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Demeylor@aol.com
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs -
> 01/10/06
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
>
> How do I go about Ordering a tail wheel? Dean
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
Flew to LKR yesterday for the SC Breakfast club get-together (50 planes or
so, 3- RV's, 100 or so people). Nice group that has been meeting at a
different airport in SC every two weeks since 1938!! Next event is in GRD,
Greenwood, SC on Jan 29th. They start around 7:30 with breakfast ($5.00)
and wrap up around 10:30 with discounted fuel.
Randy Utsey
RV-7 working on fuselage
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 2:58 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/15/06
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> Total Messages Posted Sun 01/15/06: 12
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> 1. 04:14 AM - Re: Sunday (Steve Glasgow)
> 2. 05:48 AM - Re: Sunday (Larry Bowen)
> 3. 05:57 AM - Re: Sunday (bill crothers)
> 4. 06:03 AM - Re: Sunday (Steve Glasgow)
> 5. 06:56 AM - Re: Trying to finish RV-6 (ben burril)
> 6. 11:56 AM - Re: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV
> (Charles Hagerty)
> 7. 02:09 PM - Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Ed Anderson)
> 8. 03:54 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
> (WVSWIFT@aol.com)
> 9. 05:06 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Ed Anderson)
> 10. 05:34 PM - Re: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06
> (Demeylor@aol.com)
> 11. 05:39 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Terrence
> Gardner)
> 12. 07:53 PM - Re: Good News, Bad News - not really bad (Ed Anderson)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
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> Time: 04:14:32 AM PST US
> From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red wants to meet up at
> Montgomery County
> (43A) maybe for lunch and maybe for some formation. He is probably right,
> to stay away from the mountains with the wind and all. If you want to
> come
> let me know and I will call you with the time. We won't know till around
> 11
> AM.
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve Glasgow
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday.
>
> How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati Sectional) for a late lunch.
> How about
> 1 PM. Wives are welcome.
>
> --------
> Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> Cappy's Toy
> RV-8 N123SG
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D3786#3786
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:48:07 AM PST US
> From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Let me know and I'll decide based on the winds. It'll be bumpy going to
> MTV, but the wind will be down the runway. More of a x-wind at 43A......
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steve Glasgow [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:14 AM
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red wants to meet
>> up at Montgomery County (43A) maybe for lunch and maybe for
>> some formation. He is probably right, to stay away from the
>> mountains with the wind and all. If you want to come let me
>> know and I will call you with the time. We won't know till
>> around 11 AM.
>>
>> Cappy
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Steve Glasgow
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>>
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
>> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday.
>>
>> How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati Sectional) for a
>> late lunch. How about 1 PM. Wives are welcome.
>>
>> --------
>> Steve Glasgow-Cappy
>> Cappy's Toy
>> RV-8 N123SG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D3786#3786
>>
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> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 05:57:15 AM PST US
> From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers
> <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
> Any good place suits me. Tried to ck. $100 hamburger
> site, but its now fee-based...Reno
>
> --- Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry
>> Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>>
>> Let me know and I'll decide based on the winds.
>> It'll be bumpy going to
>> MTV, but the wind will be down the runway. More of
>> a x-wind at 43A......
>>
>> -
>> Larry Bowen
>> Larry@BowenAero.com
>> http://BowenAero.com
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Steve Glasgow
>> [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:14 AM
>> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>> >
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve
>> Glasgow"
>> > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> >
>> > Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red
>> wants to meet
>> > up at Montgomery County (43A) maybe for lunch and
>> maybe for
>> > some formation. He is probably right, to stay
>> away from the
>> > mountains with the wind and all. If you want to
>> come let me
>> > know and I will call you with the time. We won't
>> know till
>> > around 11 AM.
>> >
>> > Cappy
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Steve Glasgow
>> > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM
>> > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>> >
>> >
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve
>> Glasgow"
>> > <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>> >
>> > OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday.
>> >
>> > How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati
>> Sectional) for a
>> > late lunch. How about 1 PM. Wives are welcome.
>> >
>> > --------
>> > Steve Glasgow-Cappy
>> > Cappy's Toy
>> > RV-8 N123SG
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Read this topic online here:
>> >
>> >
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D3786#3786
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>> browse
>> Subscriptions page,
>> FAQ,
>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
>>
>> Admin.
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> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:03:16 AM PST US
> From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>
> MTV and 43A are both good places. Larry winds look to be less than 10,
> will call
> you when I here from Reno.
>
> Cappy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: bill crothers
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:57 AM
> Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
>
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers
> <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
> Any good place suits me. Tried to ck. $100 hamburger
> site, but its now fee-based...Reno
>
> --- Larry Bowen <Larry@bowenaero.com> wrote:
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry
> > Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
> >
> > Let me know and I'll decide based on the winds.
> > It'll be bumpy going to
> > MTV, but the wind will be down the runway. More of
> > a x-wind at 43A......
> >
> > -
> > Larry Bowen
> > Larry@BowenAero.com
> > http://BowenAero.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steve Glasgow
> > [mailto:willfly@carolina.rr.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:14 AM
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
> > >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve
> > Glasgow"
> > > --> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > >
> > > Larry looks like plans are changing. Reno Red
> > wants to meet
> > > up at Montgomery County (43A) maybe for lunch and
> > maybe for
> > > some formation. He is probably right, to stay
> > away from the
> > > mountains with the wind and all. If you want to
> > come let me
> > > know and I will call you with the time. We won't
> > know till
> > > around 11 AM.
> > >
> > > Cappy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Steve Glasgow
> > > To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:29 PM
> > > Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Sunday
> > >
> > >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve
> > Glasgow"
> > > <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> > >
> > > OK no one is responding to the call for Sunday.
> > >
> > > How about Blue Ridge (KMTV on Cincinnati
> > Sectional) for a
> > > late lunch. How about 1 PM. Wives are welcome.
> > >
> > > --------
> > > Steve Glasgow-Cappy
> > > Cappy's Toy
> > > RV-8 N123SG
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:56:39 AM PST US
> From: "ben burril" <bburril@carolina.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "ben burril"
> <bburril@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Jordan,it sounds like a wring problem.Have you double ckecked your firing
> order and the timing? Ben
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:53 PM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6
>
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow"
> <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> I can find some scales if you want to drive to Lake Norman, north of
> Charlotte.
>>
>> Sorry can't help on the engine, I'm carburated.
>>
>> Steve Glasgow-Cappy
>> N123SG RV-8
>> Cappy's Toy
>> 704-362-0005
>> 704-281-7884
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jordan Grant
>> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 2:21 PM
>> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Trying to finish RV-6
>>
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Jordan Grant
> <gra9933@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Everyone:
>> I have two problems one of you may be able to help me with.
>>
>> Problem 1) I need to do the weight & balance on my RV-6 and I haven't
>> found a set of scales, yet. Does anyone know where I can borrow a
>> airplane scale in the Goldsboro, NC area?
>> Problem 2) I have an engine that is not running well. I have test run
>> my
>> XP-360 twice, and both times it has run very rough at idle. It will
>> quit
>> when I pull the throttle back below 1000 RPM. I have a constant speed
>> propeller, Airflow Performance fuel injection, Lightspeed Electronic
>> Ignition, and an impulse coupled mag on the left side. Its a brand new
>> engine built by Aerosport Power. When it starts, it has a puff of black
>> smoke and it sounds like its backfiring or something when it runs (loud
>> popping sounds). Runs about the same on the mag as the Lightspeed - but
>> fewer "popping" sounds on the Lightspeed. I am not very smart on
>> engines, so I'm not good at diagnosing the problem here. My going in
>> theory is that the Airflow Performance idle mixture adjustment is set
>> too rich - does this sound right for my symptoms?
>>
>> Thanks if anyone can help - I sure appreciate it. I am about to deploy
>> to Southwest Asia for a few months, so I would really like to get this
>> airplane flying before I go!!
>>
>> Jordan Grant
>> N198G, RV-6
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:56:30 AM PST US
> From: "Charles Hagerty" <chagerty@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for
> RV
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Charles Hagerty"
> <chagerty@worldnet.att.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sportav8r@aol.com>
> <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 7:50 PM
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: need some advice here, guys- alternator for RV
>
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
>>
>> Armed with info gleaned from the AeroElectric list and elsewhere on the
>> web, I went alternator-shopping at the local auto parts stores today, to
>> see how close I could get to the recommended 70 A machine that goes by
>> part number Lester 13353 or NipponDenso 121000-346. If I had not had the
>> additional tidbit that it fits a '93 Dodge Ramcharger 5.2 liter pickup, I
>> think the parts counter clerks would have been helpless to assist me.
>> The
>> choices that came up "in stock" were limited to one: the Dodge's optional
>> 90 amp externally-regulated machine (reman) with a serpentine pulley, in
>> a
>> 125mm case. My quest for a VR-166 Ford regulator also ended with a
>> substitute, the Sorensen VR-301.
>>
>> The alternator comes with its own computer-generated test output graph
>> and
>> data table, indicating it is capable of 126 amps at 6000 rpm, and draws
>> 5.72 amps of field current at that output. It seems to weigh about 11
>> lbs
>> on the bathroom scales. Already I'm thinking this might be more of a
>> fire-breathing machine than I should bolt to my RV, even if it's a
>> physical fit, which I think it will be. I'm not sure the electronic
>> regulator will necessarily "handle" it, but not sure why it wouldn't. I
>> don't need anywhere near the output this alternator is capable of, and I
>> don't want my 5 amp field breaker nuisance-tripping because the field
>> happens to want near that amount (no idea how linear the field current vs
>> output curve might be, so no way to know field current at closer to 50-60
>> amps, for example.)
>>
>> Finally, I'm unsure how easily the V-pulley from my original Van's 35 A
>> machine will slip onto the shaft of the new alternator. Any takers on
>> that one? When I make the swap, I'd like to have everything go smoothly
>> with a minimum of downtime. Basically, I'd like some reassurance that
>> this is worth trying. I can always take it back and order the Dodge 70
>> amp alternator; same physical size, and ironically more money.
>>
>> Advice appreciated, friends. Thanks.
>>
>> -Bill Boyd RV-6A O-320 FP
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:09:45 PM PST US
> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> Cc: "Laura Crook" <lauraRWS@msn.com>, <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Hi folks, back home after the trip to Florida. It was sort of a good
> news/bad
> news trip.
>
> Took off Thursday morning about 1015 after ground fog had lifted. Cool
> morning
> and engine hit 6200 rpm on take off roll. Landed shortly after 1pm at
> Shady
> Bend on Thursday, after making a low 200 MPH pass down the strip. Was
> welcomed
> by Tracy's delightful wife Laura as I taxied up to the house. Spend
> Thursday
> evening in great company including Jessica, Tracy's grandchild who is
> staying with them. That was the good news.
>
> The bad news {:>) was that Jessica was now occupying the "guest" suite,
> the good
> news was Laura had reserved the living room couch for me. The best new
> was
> - nobody snored. (different story)
>
> During Thursday evening it was clear from looking at the forming weather
> patterns
> and despite the favorable forecast of a day earlier, a two pronged front
> was
> rapidly advancing on the Southeast. It was clearly looking like any
> flights
> from north of Florida on Friday would only happened in the very early
> morning.
> Later that evening a small secondary pre front line formed out over the
> gulf
> and moved over northern Florida precluding even an early Friday flight.
>
> Poor Laura is the one faced with making the decision whether to Postpone
> the Flyin
> or not (after all that work). Well, it finally became clear that even if
> the Flyin was held with mainly Florida attendees, that Saturday was going
> to
> be cold, windy and miserable at Lakeland. So Laura made the courageous
> decision
> cancel the RV flying. That's the bad news.
>
> The good news is it was not cancelled but only postpone until next week
> end, so
> those of you still desiring and able to make it, I encourage you to do so.
>
> Then Laura had to notify a list of people that would have made the
> pentagon emergency
> recall program boggle. But, she pressed on until the job was done. Great
> lady! I called Cappy early in the morning so he could post the news on
> the
> RVSoutheast list.
>
> The good news is I got to spend three days at Shady Bend with Tracy and
> Laura.
> Managed to help Tracy with a few things on the airplanes, discussed my AOA
> project
> and contributed a radiator cap to his RV-4. (Yes, I do fly with a
> spare).
>
> The bad news was I got a phone call from the wife (which was unusual) on
> Saturday
> and Laura had clearly detected a stress level in my wife's voice which she
> let me know when she called me from the work shop. The good news was that
> the
> wife was stressed, but there was no tragedy.
>
> The bad news was - my wife reported that my hangar had blown away Friday
> night.
> Laura reminded me that I ask the wife three times during the conversation
> to
> confirm the news {:>).
>
> That's right the hangar is gone! The good news is that my aircraft was not
> there
> but in Tracy's new hangar. Well, nothing I could do about it, so decided
> to
> continue my very enjoyable visit and we all went out to dinner Saturday
> night.
>
> I had attempted to show Tracy my new fuel monitoring system in operation.
> The
> bad news was that upon touch down at Shady Bend it stopped working. The
> good
> news is I found If I wiggled the cigarette lighter, power would be
> restored and
> it would work - so got to show it to Tracy. The bad news was that when I
> flew
> back and any time I wanted to check my fuel burn/ Air Fuel ratio, etc, I
> had
> to reach across the cockpit and wiggle the cigarette lighter. The good
> news
> was that it would then work.
>
> I launched out of Shady bend at 0945 with 6500 rpm showing on the tach!
> Stopped
> to refuel at Waycross, GA at 1030 and took off again (naturally in to a
> 25-30
> MPH headwind). I normally cruise burning 7 GPH and today that was giving
> me
> a ground speed of 138 MPH. I finally said to hell with fuel economy and
> push
> the engine up to 10 GPH burn rate. Ground speed moved up from 138 to 168
> MPH
> - that was more like it!.
>
>
> Made it back to North Carolina and home airport at 1230. Made one pass
> and the
> bad news was that the bad news had been accurate. The hanger had been
> lifted
> up and blown backwards off the concrete slab and crumpled up. The good
> news
> was neither hangar to the side was even touched.
>
> It was amazing, the storage cabinet was upright, empty cardboard boxes
> were right
> where I had left them, empty buckets had not been moved, even paper on my
> work bench were undisturbed. But, the hangar including my recently
> installed
> electrical wiring were all gone in the rubble and the end of the hangar.
> As
> Laura had put it, it appeared that I had been hit by a micro-burst,
> surgical strike
> (tornadoes had been reported in adjacent county).
>
> So the bad news is NO Hangar for my airplane! The good news is a
> neighbor has
> room for my aircraft in his hangar.
>
> I finally concluded that the gremlins that normally plague my flights
> missed my
> take off and couldn't find me so took it out on the hangar.
>
> So now have to start deciding what to replace it with. It took me six
> weeks of
> day long labor to put up the first Quonset hut standing on scaffolding 15'
> above
> the concrete pad back six years ago leaving me with tendenitis in both
> elbows
> that took six months to go away. So I am 99 percent certain I am going to
> have the new hangar built rather than build it myself - life is too short.
>
> So have not added up the good news/bad news column, but my aircraft and I
> can still
> flying- so that's the best news.
>
> Well, that about wraps it up. Otherwise just your ordinary Ed Anderson
> trip {:>).
> I will post some photos of the hangar tomorrow - right now, going down to
> fix myself a cold tall one. Will catch up on any e mails addressed to me
> tomorrow
> also.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Anderson
> Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
> Matthews, NC
> eanderson@carolina.rr.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:54:11 PM PST US
> From: WVSWIFT@aol.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com
>
> Ed:
> I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6 or 7
> telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York.
> Eddie Shields
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:06:39 PM PST US
> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it. Still in the figuring stage at this point.
> Pole barn style or the Q hut style (but one anchored firmly this time
> {:>))?
> Current price of lumber makes all-steel look attractive, but so many
> variable - will probably need a week to sort it all out.
>
> Ed
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <WVSWIFT@aol.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com
>>
>> Ed:
>> I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6 or 7
>> telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York.
>> Eddie Shields
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:34:47 PM PST US
> From: Demeylor@aol.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs -
> 01/10/06
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Demeylor@aol.com
>
> How do I go about Ordering a tail wheel? Dean
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:39:25 PM PST US
> From: "Terrence Gardner" <ttandt@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Terrence Gardner"
> <ttandt@mindspring.com>
>
> Ed,
> I've built two Quonsets similar to the one you lost. If the foundation is
> useable I feel sure you, me, and perhaps some flying buddies could put it
> together in a weekend or two. Hangar Raising! I used an RV(motor home not
> aircraft) to work off of and we put up full arches. This went real quick
> about 3 days for the arches(32' deep) with 5 of us. We tightened up nuts
> with some long fabricated extensions.
> Just another option,
> Terry
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Date: 1/15/2006 8:12:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>
>> Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it. Still in the figuring stage at this
> point.
>> Pole barn style or the Q hut style (but one anchored firmly this time
> {:>))?
>> Current price of lumber makes all-steel look attractive, but so many
>> variable - will probably need a week to sort it all out.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <WVSWIFT@aol.com>
>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>>
>>
>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com
>> >
>> > Ed:
>> > I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6 or
> 7
>> > telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York.
>> > Eddie Shields
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:53:51 PM PST US
> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> Yes, the foundation is usable - still has the keyway that the edges will
> sit
> it - never got the cement pour in them - which of course, is undoubtedly
> the
> reason the metal went flying. Won't make that mistake again.
>
> I currently looking at what options are the most reasonable from a cost
> standpoint. I like the Q hut approach and will probably go that way based
> on some initial cost scratching.
>
> It took me six weeks to put one up and that was full days - just don't
> want
> to go that route again. Yes, with a crew where you can put up full arches
> bolted together on the ground and then stand them up - rather than hauling
> up a sheet at a time on 15' scaffolding would make things go much faster.
>
> A number of folks have offer assistant so it might be possible to get a
> team
> of 3-4 together for a couple of weekends. In any case, I would be
> interested in learning about the extension you fabricated to tighten those
> 1000 and 1 bolts.
>
> Appreciate the offer and assuming I go the Q hut route, I'll be back in
> contact.
>
> Ed
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terrence Gardner" <ttandt@mindspring.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 8:39 PM
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>
>
>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Terrence Gardner"
>> <ttandt@mindspring.com>
>>
>> Ed,
>> I've built two Quonsets similar to the one you lost. If the foundation is
>> useable I feel sure you, me, and perhaps some flying buddies could put it
>> together in a weekend or two. Hangar Raising! I used an RV(motor home not
>> aircraft) to work off of and we put up full arches. This went real quick
>> about 3 days for the arches(32' deep) with 5 of us. We tightened up nuts
>> with some long fabricated extensions.
>> Just another option,
>> Terry
>>
>>> [Original Message]
>>> From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>> Date: 1/15/2006 8:12:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>>>
>>> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson"
>> <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Eddie. Appreciate it. Still in the figuring stage at this
>> point.
>>> Pole barn style or the Q hut style (but one anchored firmly this time
>> {:>))?
>>> Current price of lumber makes all-steel look attractive, but so many
>>> variable - will probably need a week to sort it all out.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <WVSWIFT@aol.com>
>>> To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Good News, Bad News - not really bad
>>>
>>>
>>> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: WVSWIFT@aol.com
>>> >
>>> > Ed:
>>> > I don't know what you are planning for a hanger, but we have about 6
>>> > or
>> 7
>>> > telephone poles you can have if you want them here at York.
>>> > Eddie Shields
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: JohnCClarkVA@cs.com
Hi Len. Keep your eye on IAS. Ground speed is just a freeby even if it is
very high. IAS determines the structural load. Just keep is below Vne and
below Va in very gusty conditions. A gust that is going to break something would
normally be very, very uncomfortable. Slow down to reach a comfort level
that is tolerable.
As engineers, simples statements require a few dozen footnotes.
Not sure of the V speeds for your airplane but for the -9A: Vne is 182 KIAS
- go past that speed and you are pushing the structural limits and flutter
margin. With gusts, your structure may be taking a second hit in addition to the
high speed. That is why there is a yellow arc. You may not be protected
near Vne with moderate control inputs. At Vne, no gusts, minimum control input.
Va is 102 KIAS (maneuver speed) - you can maneuver (pull Gs) or get hit by
severe vertical gusts and, in theory, not break the wings off before stall. You
may not be protected when you are pulling max Gs at Va and input full aileron
at the same time for example (one of those double hits the designers don't
worry about).
The only place where TAS may be an issue on some airplanes is at very high
altitudes, with a high horsepower engine, such as the Rockets, or in a redline
dive from, say 20,000 feet. You may create a situation when TAS exceeds Vne by
a wide margin even though IAS is well below below Vne. Sometimes flutter is
TAS driven, not IAS driven. Just not a problem for most of us.
If the gusts are really beating you, slowing down as you did is the perfect
solution. If you are reasonably comfortable, that is the jolts are not too
bad, you are most likely safe. If the turbulence is severe, and you are very
uncomfortable, slow down to Va. That does two things, takes the jolt out of the
gusts and buys a design level protection from structural failure.
In short for the standard RVers, IAS for structure and flutter, TAS is not a
worry, GS - the more the better.
I will be running around today, to the dump, to the hangar, maybe even get in
some time. Give me a call if you want to discuss some more. Talking is
easier than typing, hand waving in person is best. Regards, John Clark
202-257-0121.
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| Subject: | Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Len,
I hope you didn't/won't have the same winds working against you on the
return trip. As for airspeed concerns, CAS is the only issue when it comes
to bumps. The reason is that is what your wing cares about regarding stalls
and over-G. If you fly at or below maneuvering speed, CAS, then you can't
hurt the airplane. A little slower will make it even more comfortable and
reduce any potential problems caused by asymmetric G in case things get
really bad.
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Lenleg@aol.com
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:52 AM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Flew down to LBT to see my parents yesterday ... beautiful skies but lots
of
bumps ... climbed to 5500' in search of smooth air ... only found pockets of
it ... BUT ... I did find one of the strongest tailwinds I have ever
experienced ... I was seeing 195kt ground speed at 21 inches of MP and only
2300 RPM
... I even pulled back a little for the bumps.
My airspeed question is this ... the indicated airspeed was about 155kts
...
well within normal range ... but the groudspeed was extremely high .. then I
was getting some very good bumps .... my concern was whether I was
approaching max speed ...
Is max speed ... only indicated airspeed or should you also be concerned
with groundspeed?
Len
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
Len, you can't be serious! Every pilot knows - or should know - that
airplanes fly on airspeed. Ground speed is a by product of your airspeed and
wind speed and direction. The airplane does care one bit what your ground
speed is.
That sounds like it must have been pretty cool going that fast.
Ron Awad
>From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:18:27 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
>not to worry...the wind was carrying you forward
>across gnd. at hi speed..had you been going other way,
>you would be crawling vs. gnd, but still doing 155k+
>in airstream.,
>
>--- Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by:
> > Lenleg@aol.com
> >
> > Flew down to LBT to see my parents yesterday ...
> > beautiful skies but lots of
> > bumps ... climbed to 5500' in search of smooth air
> > ... only found pockets of
> > it ... BUT ... I did find one of the strongest
> > tailwinds I have ever
> > experienced ... I was seeing 195kt ground speed at
> > 21 inches of MP and only 2300 RPM
> > ... I even pulled back a little for the bumps.
> >
> > My airspeed question is this ... the indicated
> > airspeed was about 155kts ...
> > well within normal range ... but the groudspeed was
> > extremely high .. then I
> > was getting some very good bumps .... my concern was
> > whether I was
> > approaching max speed ...
> >
> > Is max speed ... only indicated airspeed or should
> > you also be concerned
> > with groundspeed?
> >
> > Len
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> >
> > Admin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
I almost did not post the question to the list because I knew I would get
some kind of smart _ss answer from someone ... but then again ... I knew I would
get it from Stormy ....I was worried about the other people !!!
Len
In a message dated 1/16/2006 8:18:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sportav8r@aol.com writes:
Guys, _don't_ tell him the answer ;-) If he throttles back every time he
gets a stiff tailwind, even us slower RV's will be able to do the Joan Baez on
him- you know, "blew by you."
C'mon, Leggs- you know the only time an airframe cares about groundspeed is
when it's in contact with the ground. You're not the guy who keeps
re-starting the deadly downwind turn thing on the internet, are you? ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Just finished installing mine ... really like it ... first done by Doug Bell
in Michigan ... great mod for us golfers !!!
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
429 hrs
In a message dated 1/16/2006 8:32:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
djdist@bellsouth.net writes:
I had heard there were some golf club modification, alterations out there.
Any pictures anywhere?
Randy Utsey
RV-7 working on the fuselage
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| Subject: | Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Wayne Williams" <rwayne@gamewood.net>
Good article recently in RVator about how an airplane can surpass Vne (based
on true airspeed) while flying at a much lower indicated airspeed (high
density alt) and get significant flutter. Happened to the guy in an RV4 on
descent.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron and
Shannon AWAD
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD"
<sawad13@msn.com>
Len, you can't be serious! Every pilot knows - or should know - that
airplanes fly on airspeed. Ground speed is a by product of your airspeed and
wind speed and direction. The airplane does care one bit what your ground
speed is.
That sounds like it must have been pretty cool going that fast.
Ron Awad
>From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:18:27 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
>not to worry...the wind was carrying you forward
>across gnd. at hi speed..had you been going other way,
>you would be crawling vs. gnd, but still doing 155k+
>in airstream.,
>
>--- Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by:
> > Lenleg@aol.com
> >
> > Flew down to LBT to see my parents yesterday ...
> > beautiful skies but lots of
> > bumps ... climbed to 5500' in search of smooth air
> > ... only found pockets of
> > it ... BUT ... I did find one of the strongest
> > tailwinds I have ever
> > experienced ... I was seeing 195kt ground speed at
> > 21 inches of MP and only 2300 RPM
> > ... I even pulled back a little for the bumps.
> >
> > My airspeed question is this ... the indicated
> > airspeed was about 155kts ...
> > well within normal range ... but the groudspeed was
> > extremely high .. then I
> > was getting some very good bumps .... my concern was
> > whether I was
> > approaching max speed ...
> >
> > Is max speed ... only indicated airspeed or should
> > you also be concerned
> > with groundspeed?
> >
> > Len
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> >
> > Admin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Against my better judgement ... I am going to reply to this ...
I felt I knew the right answer ... but I also wanted to run it by other
pilots to make sure I knew the right answer and thus operating safely ...what I
do not need nor does anyone else wanting to ask a question ... is this type of
answer ...
If you want to help with the question ... I welcome it ... if not ... keep
it to yourself !!!
Len
In a message dated 1/16/2006 9:26:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sawad13@msn.com writes:
Len, you can't be serious! Every pilot knows - or should know - that
airplanes fly on airspeed. Ground speed is a by product of your airspeed and
wind speed and direction. The airplane does care one bit what your ground
speed is.
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/15/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
Just a quick point in reference to the earlier discussion on homebuilt/OBAM
aircraft versus factory built, A&P maintained aircraft. My hangar mate, a
very experienced DAR with extensive manufacturing and spam can restoration
experience says he is regularly surprised at the high quality of work
performed by homebuilders of well known (read RV, Rocket, and similar)
kits. He is restoring a C-182 in our hangar right now (along with a couple
of C-172's and his own C-170) and as we pull floor boards and ribs (etc) to
fix corrosion problems and rivet in new metal, he says he is constantly
surprised at the relatively low quality of manufacturing work done by the
guys at the Cessna factory (and elsewhere). He says he almost invariably
sees better work (sometimes much better) in homebuilts. He sees lots of
smashed, poorly formed tails and shanked rivets (for example) that would
have been routinely rejected by most homebuilders.
My point is only that the recent discussion which worried about the quality
of homebuilder skills may be at least partly misplaced. The weak link for
most is knowledge, not skill or quality control and most builders are
capable, sucessful people who are usually motivated to research answers and
to ultimately do the right thing (witness the hundreds of builders and
support sites on the Internet). I suspect that the average workaday A&P
does not necessarily have the same level of motivation to complete
construction or maintenance tasks on your airplane any better than you
might. He may know more about it, but he may not be as inclined to
research thorny issues, remove and replace marginal work, dig deeper for
solutions to intractable problems, or take as much pride in his work---than
you. I think most of us can work on our own planes with no apologies
whatever, and, within reason, don't need an A&P on-site to help us do it
right. There is likely at least as much aviation construction and
maintenance experience resident, for example, in the typical EAA chapter as
there is at the typical FBO or aircraft maintenance hangar.
Lee...
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
Sorry, I wasn't trying to be a smarty pants. To be fair, ALOT of people in
aviation do not totally understand the difference between groundspeeds and
airspeeds - one of the reasons stalls and spins are so common in the traffic
pattern.
On the gyroplane forum we have a big debate in the threads about once every
3 months because someone who doesn't know better makes a comment or has a
question about how they believe flying into the wind makes more lift than
flying with the wind.... or that flying into the wind you need less power to
maintain altitude etc.... all kinds of misconceptions.
So don't feel alone. You live and you learn. Again sorry if my reply seemed
rude or not helpful.
Ron Awad
>From: Lenleg@aol.com
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:04:10 EST
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>
>Against my better judgement ... I am going to reply to this ...
>
>I felt I knew the right answer ... but I also wanted to run it by other
>pilots to make sure I knew the right answer and thus operating safely
>...what I
>do not need nor does anyone else wanting to ask a question ... is this type
>of
>answer ...
>
>If you want to help with the question ... I welcome it ... if not ... keep
>it to yourself !!!
>
>Len
>
>
>In a message dated 1/16/2006 9:26:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>sawad13@msn.com writes:
>
>Len, you can't be serious! Every pilot knows - or should know - that
>airplanes fly on airspeed. Ground speed is a by product of your airspeed
>and
>wind speed and direction. The airplane does care one bit what your ground
>speed is.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/15/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
Great post!!!!! exactly my thoughts too.
Ron Awad
>From: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 12 Msgs - 01/15/06
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 11:20:15 -0500
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
>
>Just a quick point in reference to the earlier discussion on homebuilt/OBAM
>aircraft versus factory built, A&P maintained aircraft. My hangar mate, a
>very experienced DAR with extensive manufacturing and spam can restoration
>experience says he is regularly surprised at the high quality of work
>performed by homebuilders of well known (read RV, Rocket, and similar)
>kits. He is restoring a C-182 in our hangar right now (along with a couple
>of C-172's and his own C-170) and as we pull floor boards and ribs (etc) to
>fix corrosion problems and rivet in new metal, he says he is constantly
>surprised at the relatively low quality of manufacturing work done by the
>guys at the Cessna factory (and elsewhere). He says he almost invariably
>sees better work (sometimes much better) in homebuilts. He sees lots of
>smashed, poorly formed tails and shanked rivets (for example) that would
>have been routinely rejected by most homebuilders.
>
>My point is only that the recent discussion which worried about the quality
>of homebuilder skills may be at least partly misplaced. The weak link for
>most is knowledge, not skill or quality control and most builders are
>capable, sucessful people who are usually motivated to research answers and
>to ultimately do the right thing (witness the hundreds of builders and
>support sites on the Internet). I suspect that the average workaday A&P
>does not necessarily have the same level of motivation to complete
>construction or maintenance tasks on your airplane any better than you
>might. He may know more about it, but he may not be as inclined to
>research thorny issues, remove and replace marginal work, dig deeper for
>solutions to intractable problems, or take as much pride in his work---than
>you. I think most of us can work on our own planes with no apologies
>whatever, and, within reason, don't need an A&P on-site to help us do it
>right. There is likely at least as much aviation construction and
>maintenance experience resident, for example, in the typical EAA chapter as
>there is at the typical FBO or aircraft maintenance hangar.
>
>Lee...
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
Any pictures available and would it work in a 7?
Randy Utsey
D.J. Distributing Co.
1429 Bryant St.
Charlotte, NC 28208
800-585-4126
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs -
01/10/06
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>
> Just finished installing mine ... really like it ... first done by Doug
> Bell
> in Michigan ... great mod for us golfers !!!
>
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 429 hrs
>
>
> In a message dated 1/16/2006 8:32:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> djdist@bellsouth.net writes:
>
> I had heard there were some golf club modification, alterations out
> there.
> Any pictures anywhere?
> Randy Utsey
> RV-7 working on the fuselage
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
That's 'cuz you're my FRIEND, Leggs!
-----Original Message-----
From: Lenleg@aol.com
Sent: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:45:42 EST
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
I almost did not post the question to the list because I knew I would get
some kind of smart _ss answer from someone ... but then again ... I knew I would
get it from Stormy ....I was worried about the other people !!!
Len
In a message dated 1/16/2006 8:18:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sportav8r@aol.com writes:
Guys, _don't_ tell him the answer ;-) If he throttles back every time he
gets a stiff tailwind, even us slower RV's will be able to do the Joan Baez on
him- you know, "blew by you."
C'mon, Leggs- you know the only time an airframe cares about groundspeed is
when it's in contact with the ground. You're not the guy who keeps
re-starting the deadly downwind turn thing on the internet, are you? ;-)
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| Subject: | Re: RVSouthEast-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 01/10/06 |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 1/16/2006 11:51:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,
djdist@bellsouth.net writes:
Any pictures available and would it work in a 7?
Randy Utsey
Pics were posted on Doug Reeves site _www.vansairforce.net_
(http://www.vansairforce.net) ... his design works only on the tandem planes but could be a
starting point for the others to design your own.
Len
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle" <serv@arbuckle.org>
Hi everyone. Since I believe there are no stupid questions, I'm going to
ask.
I've got my RV8 preview plans an have been reading over them but I'm
having a hard time wrapping my brain around how some of the tools are
used etc. I was wondering if any of you current builders might mind
show me around your shop and explain the tools I'm going to need just so
I can get the big picture. I'm in Winston-Salem NC so if there's anyone
in my neck of the woods, please let me know..
Lance Arbuckle
Winston-Salem, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Lance:
I keep my plane .. RV-8A ... at INT in Winston and all my tools at the
hanger ... would love to have you over anytime ... there is a -7 being built in
the hanger behind me.
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
429 hrs
In a message dated 1/16/2006 2:43:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
serv@arbuckle.org writes:
Hi everyone. Since I believe there are no stupid questions, I'm going to
ask.
I've got my RV8 preview plans an have been reading over them but I'm
having a hard time wrapping my brain around how some of the tools are
used etc. I was wondering if any of you current builders might mind
show me around your shop and explain the tools I'm going to need just so
I can get the big picture. I'm in Winston-Salem NC so if there's anyone
in my neck of the woods, please let me know..
Lance Arbuckle
Winston-Salem, NC
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| Subject: | Mid Atlantic Fly In |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
Mid Atlantic Fly In in Lumberton (LBT) is scheduled for May 18, 19, 20 21.
_www.mafsac.com_ (http://www.mafsac.com)
Len Leggette, RV-8A
Greensboro, NC N910LL
429 hrs
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle" <serv@arbuckle.org>
Lenleg@aol.com wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>
> Lance:
>
> I keep my plane .. RV-8A ... at INT in Winston and all my tools at the
> hanger ... would love to have you over anytime ... there is a -7 being built
in
> the hanger behind me.
>
>
hey Len. just name the time and I'll be there.
Lance
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Randy Utsey" <djdist@bellsouth.net>
That is a great thing to ask about. Bill Repucci donated a couple of hours
to show me the basics on the tools and riveting and it was a real confidence
builder when you actually get started.
Good luck!
Randy Utsey
RV-7 fuselage work ongoing
djdist@bellsouth.net
www.djdist.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <Lenleg@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
>
>
> Lance:
>
> I keep my plane .. RV-8A ... at INT in Winston and all my tools at the
> hanger ... would love to have you over anytime ... there is a -7 being
> built in
> the hanger behind me.
>
>
> Len Leggette, RV-8A
> Greensboro, NC N910LL
> 429 hrs
>
>
> In a message dated 1/16/2006 2:43:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> serv@arbuckle.org writes:
>
> Hi everyone. Since I believe there are no stupid questions, I'm going to
> ask.
> I've got my RV8 preview plans an have been reading over them but I'm
> having a hard time wrapping my brain around how some of the tools are
> used etc. I was wondering if any of you current builders might mind
> show me around your shop and explain the tools I'm going to need just so
> I can get the big picture. I'm in Winston-Salem NC so if there's anyone
> in my neck of the woods, please let me know..
>
> Lance Arbuckle
> Winston-Salem, NC
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
In a message dated 1/16/2006 3:38:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
serv@arbuckle.org writes:
hey Len. just name the time and I'll be there.
I will be at the airport sometime this coming weekend. As the week
progresses ... I can tell you exactly when I will be there.
I will post it ..
BTW ... my cell number is 336-210-4308.
Len
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my "assistant" noticed gas
pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric fuel pump. The fuel
pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the gascolator is on the
pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not where it is meant to be.
Question is what should I do? It seems to me that the easiest thing would
be to change the gascolator to one that can take the pressure. Looking at
Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates that seem to claim they do
- Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the photos in the catalog. The
Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't tell if the Usher has a
sump drain sample valve.
Any suggestions or experience, please?
Paul D. Franzon
N418GM
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Lenleg@aol.com
I have the Andair ... had one small problem ... had a pin size hole in the
bottom and when I turned on the pump .. gas sprayed out ...
Had the hole closed by a professional ... no problems since.
Len
In a message dated 1/16/2006 4:38:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
paulf@ncsu.edu writes:
- Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the photos in the catalog. The
Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't tell if the Usher has a
sump drain sample valve.
Any suggestions or experience, please?
Paul D. Franzon
N418GM
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
Paul, sounds like the gasket just went bad. you can
get a new screw-in fuel poppet and replace current one
and prob. be fine...i did that some yrs. back. bill c
--- "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D.
> Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
>
>
>
>
> I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my
> "assistant" noticed gas
> pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric
> fuel pump. The fuel
> pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the
> gascolator is on the
> pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not
> where it is meant to be.
>
> Question is what should I do? It seems to me that
> the easiest thing would
> be to change the gascolator to one that can take the
> pressure. Looking at
> Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates
> that seem to claim they do
> - Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the
> photos in the catalog. The
> Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't
> tell if the Usher has a
> sump drain sample valve.
>
> Any suggestions or experience, please?
>
> Paul D. Franzon
> N418GM
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I have the ANDAIR and have had no problems.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul D. Franzon
To: 'Paul D. Franzon' ; rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my "assistant" noticed gas
pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric fuel pump. The fuel
pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the gascolator is on the
pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not where it is meant to be.
Question is what should I do? It seems to me that the easiest thing would
be to change the gascolator to one that can take the pressure. Looking at
Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates that seem to claim they do
- Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the photos in the catalog. The
Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't tell if the Usher has a
sump drain sample valve.
Any suggestions or experience, please?
Paul D. Franzon
N418GM
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: sportav8r@aol.com
I have no gascolator and have had no problems.
Stormy
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Glasgow <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
Sent: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 17:24:05 -0500
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Steve Glasgow" <willfly@carolina.rr.com>
I have the ANDAIR and have had no problems.
Cappy
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul D. Franzon
To: 'Paul D. Franzon' ; rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my "assistant" noticed gas
pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric fuel pump. The fuel
pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the gascolator is on the
pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not where it is meant to be.
Question is what should I do? It seems to me that the easiest thing would
be to change the gascolator to one that can take the pressure. Looking at
Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates that seem to claim they do
- Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the photos in the catalog. The
Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't tell if the Usher has a
sump drain sample valve.
Any suggestions or experience, please?
Paul D. Franzon
N418GM
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Bill,
What is a "fuel poppet" ????
Paul,
I had the same thing happen after servicing the gascolator........scared the
poop out of me, seeing fuel spray out.......so glad we did a systems check
before run up.......
now I'm not an A&P......but I know how to service a gascolator (from tractor
days)
but I found after close inspection the gasket is very susceptable to being
pushed to the inside of the cup. I always keep new gaskets on hand to
replace worn ones.......this one didn't look worn, so I didn't replace
it.......but I replace then every time now.
I have a carb to ..........and the gascolator is suposed to handle the fuel
pressure........
I have agree.......the andair looks very good to me........
but I have admit.......I kinda agree with Stormy toooo......I think it can
cause more possible harm then the little good it is doing.
Thats why they call it EXPERMENTAL........
Good Luck.
Bob Martin
RV-6
Louisa Va
Bill
>From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:20:57 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
>Paul, sounds like the gasket just went bad. you can
>get a new screw-in fuel poppet and replace current one
>and prob. be fine...i did that some yrs. back. bill c
>
>--- "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D.
> > Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my
> > "assistant" noticed gas
> > pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric
> > fuel pump. The fuel
> > pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the
> > gascolator is on the
> > pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not
> > where it is meant to be.
> >
> > Question is what should I do? It seems to me that
> > the easiest thing would
> > be to change the gascolator to one that can take the
> > pressure. Looking at
> > Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates
> > that seem to claim they do
> > - Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the
> > photos in the catalog. The
> > Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't
> > tell if the Usher has a
> > sump drain sample valve.
> >
> > Any suggestions or experience, please?
> >
> > Paul D. Franzon
> > N418GM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> >
> > Admin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
Thanks everyone. I am still concerned about having a regular gascolator on
pressure side of a pump. I might go ahead and replace it with the Andair,
since it specifically states it can go on the pressure side.
BTW, I used to not have a gascolator too. After a few problems with water
contamination, my A&P suggested we put one in.
Paul D. Franzon
Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE
443 Monteith GRC
paulf@ncsu.edu 919.515.7351 fax. 919.515.2285
www.ece.ncsu.edu/erl/faculty/paulf.html
USPS : ECE Box 7914, NCSU, Raleigh NC 27695
FedEx: EGRC 419, 2410 Campus Shore Dr., Raleigh NC 27606
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BOB martin
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
Bill,
What is a "fuel poppet" ????
Paul,
I had the same thing happen after servicing the gascolator........scared the
poop out of me, seeing fuel spray out.......so glad we did a systems check
before run up.......
now I'm not an A&P......but I know how to service a gascolator (from tractor
days)
but I found after close inspection the gasket is very susceptable to being
pushed to the inside of the cup. I always keep new gaskets on hand to
replace worn ones.......this one didn't look worn, so I didn't replace
it.......but I replace then every time now.
I have a carb to ..........and the gascolator is suposed to handle the fuel
pressure........
I have agree.......the andair looks very good to me........
but I have admit.......I kinda agree with Stormy toooo......I think it can
cause more possible harm then the little good it is doing.
Thats why they call it EXPERMENTAL........
Good Luck.
Bob Martin
RV-6
Louisa Va
Bill
>From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:20:57 -0800 (PST)
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
>Paul, sounds like the gasket just went bad. you can
>get a new screw-in fuel poppet and replace current one
>and prob. be fine...i did that some yrs. back. bill c
>
>--- "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu> wrote:
>
> > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D.
> > Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my
> > "assistant" noticed gas
> > pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric
> > fuel pump. The fuel
> > pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the
> > gascolator is on the
> > pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not
> > where it is meant to be.
> >
> > Question is what should I do? It seems to me that
> > the easiest thing would
> > be to change the gascolator to one that can take the
> > pressure. Looking at
> > Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates
> > that seem to claim they do
> > - Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the
> > photos in the catalog. The
> > Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't
> > tell if the Usher has a
> > sump drain sample valve.
> >
> > Any suggestions or experience, please?
> >
> > Paul D. Franzon
> > N418GM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > browse
> > Subscriptions page,
> > FAQ,
> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> >
> > Admin.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ron and Shannon AWAD" <sawad13@msn.com>
My RV-4 has a gascolator on the pressure side of the pump and I have had no
problems. Don't know what brand it is, but it looks to be one of the cheaper
ones.
I sump the tanks after every fill up and before the next flight if the plane
sat for a day or two. I only check the gascolator when I change the oil
since it is very hard to get under the cowling to sump it and also the fuel
pump has to be running as well to get much out of it.
Ron Awad
>From: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
>To: <rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 19:19:24 -0500
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
>
>Thanks everyone. I am still concerned about having a regular gascolator on
>pressure side of a pump. I might go ahead and replace it with the Andair,
>since it specifically states it can go on the pressure side.
>
>BTW, I used to not have a gascolator too. After a few problems with water
>contamination, my A&P suggested we put one in.
>
>Paul D. Franzon
>Alumni Distinguished Professor of ECE
>443 Monteith GRC
>paulf@ncsu.edu 919.515.7351 fax. 919.515.2285
>www.ece.ncsu.edu/erl/faculty/paulf.html
>USPS : ECE Box 7914, NCSU, Raleigh NC 27695
>FedEx: EGRC 419, 2410 Campus Shore Dr., Raleigh NC 27606
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BOB
>martin
>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:34 PM
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin" <libertyva@msn.com>
>
>Bill,
>What is a "fuel poppet" ????
>
>Paul,
>I had the same thing happen after servicing the gascolator........scared
>the
>
>poop out of me, seeing fuel spray out.......so glad we did a systems check
>before run up.......
>now I'm not an A&P......but I know how to service a gascolator (from
>tractor
>
>days)
>but I found after close inspection the gasket is very susceptable to being
>pushed to the inside of the cup. I always keep new gaskets on hand to
>replace worn ones.......this one didn't look worn, so I didn't replace
>it.......but I replace then every time now.
>I have a carb to ..........and the gascolator is suposed to handle the fuel
>pressure........
>I have agree.......the andair looks very good to me........
>but I have admit.......I kinda agree with Stormy toooo......I think it can
>cause more possible harm then the little good it is doing.
>Thats why they call it EXPERMENTAL........
>Good Luck.
>Bob Martin
>RV-6
>Louisa Va
>
>Bill
> >From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
> >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
> >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:20:57 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers
><bill28104@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Paul, sounds like the gasket just went bad. you can
> >get a new screw-in fuel poppet and replace current one
> >and prob. be fine...i did that some yrs. back. bill c
> >
> >--- "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D.
> > > Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my
> > > "assistant" noticed gas
> > > pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric
> > > fuel pump. The fuel
> > > pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the
> > > gascolator is on the
> > > pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not
> > > where it is meant to be.
> > >
> > > Question is what should I do? It seems to me that
> > > the easiest thing would
> > > be to change the gascolator to one that can take the
> > > pressure. Looking at
> > > Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates
> > > that seem to claim they do
> > > - Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the
> > > photos in the catalog. The
> > > Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't
> > > tell if the Usher has a
> > > sump drain sample valve.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or experience, please?
> > >
> > > Paul D. Franzon
> > > N418GM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > browse
> > > Subscriptions page,
> > > FAQ,
> > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> > >
> > > Admin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
Can't think of REAL name, but its same as gizmo where
you ck. fuel under wing.
--- BOB martin <libertyva@msn.com> wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "BOB martin"
> <libertyva@msn.com>
>
> Bill,
> What is a "fuel poppet" ????
>
> Paul,
> I had the same thing happen after servicing the
> gascolator........scared the
> poop out of me, seeing fuel spray out.......so glad
> we did a systems check
> before run up.......
> now I'm not an A&P......but I know how to service a
> gascolator (from tractor
> days)
> but I found after close inspection the gasket is
> very susceptable to being
> pushed to the inside of the cup. I always keep new
> gaskets on hand to
> replace worn ones.......this one didn't look worn,
> so I didn't replace
> it.......but I replace then every time now.
> I have a carb to ..........and the gascolator is
> suposed to handle the fuel
> pressure........
> I have agree.......the andair looks very good to
> me........
> but I have admit.......I kinda agree with Stormy
> toooo......I think it can
> cause more possible harm then the little good it is
> doing.
> Thats why they call it EXPERMENTAL........
> Good Luck.
> Bob Martin
> RV-6
> Louisa Va
>
> Bill
> >From: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
> >To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
> >Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:20:57 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill
> crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Paul, sounds like the gasket just went bad. you
> can
> >get a new screw-in fuel poppet and replace current
> one
> >and prob. be fine...i did that some yrs. back.
> bill c
> >
> >--- "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D.
> > > Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and
> my
> > > "assistant" noticed gas
> > > pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the
> electric
> > > fuel pump. The fuel
> > > pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and
> the
> > > gascolator is on the
> > > pressure side of the pump, which is most likely
> not
> > > where it is meant to be.
> > >
> > > Question is what should I do? It seems to me
> that
> > > the easiest thing would
> > > be to change the gascolator to one that can take
> the
> > > pressure. Looking at
> > > Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two
> candidates
> > > that seem to claim they do
> > > - Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the
> > > photos in the catalog. The
> > > Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't
> > > tell if the Usher has a
> > > sump drain sample valve.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or experience, please?
> > >
> > > Paul D. Franzon
> > > N418GM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > browse
> > > Subscriptions page,
> > > FAQ,
> > >
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
> > >
> > > Admin.
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RVSouthEast-List
>
> Admin.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
Quick drain (part # CAV-110)?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill
crothers
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
Can't think of REAL name, but its same as gizmo where
you ck. fuel under wing.
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
bill crothers wrote:
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
>
>Can't think of REAL name, but its same as gizmo where
>you ck. fuel under wing.
>
quick drain?
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
yeah Rad, thats it...
--- Radomir Zaric <vitez@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir
> Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
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> Quick drain (part # CAV-110)?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com]
> On Behalf Of bill
> crothers
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:37 PM
> To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill
> crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
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> Can't think of REAL name, but its same as gizmo
> where
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers <bill28104@yahoo.com>
Anyone planning to do LAL this wkend, pls. ck.
in...may gaggle our way down on Fri. if any
interested. Be nice to see who's gonna be there. Any
potential passengers should sign in too, may be some
empty seats avail.
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| Subject: | Separation Anxiety |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Well, my plane is officially down for paint. I dropped it off at RUQ this
afternoon and Cappy flew me home (Thanks). Now what am I going to do with
myself for the next month...... Sigh
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
I'm out. Already replied to Laura. I'm just going to look fwd ro SNF....
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bill crothers [mailto:bill28104@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 8:55 PM
> To: SERV
> Subject: RVSouthEast-List: LAL
>
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: bill crothers
> --> <bill28104@yahoo.com>
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> Anyone planning to do LAL this wkend, pls. ck.
> in...may gaggle our way down on Fri. if any interested. Be
> nice to see who's gonna be there. Any potential passengers
> should sign in too, may be some empty seats avail.
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| Subject: | Separation Anxiety |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Radomir Zaric" <vitez@carolina.rr.com>
I hope that nasty word ("renting") isn't popping in your head :)
Well, if you don't know what to do.... come by my garage.. there's always
something to do.
:)
Radomir
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvsoutheast-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Bowen
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Separation Anxiety
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@BowenAero.com>
Well, my plane is officially down for paint. I dropped it off at RUQ this
afternoon and Cappy flew me home (Thanks). Now what am I going to do with
myself for the next month...... Sigh
-
Larry Bowen
Larry@BowenAero.com
http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Separation Anxiety |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Neal George" <neal@appaero.com>
Larry - I need somebody to buck the fuselage top skin rivets. Then
we'll start on the canopy... ;-)
Neal
>Now what am I going to do with myself for the next month...... Sigh
Larry Bowen<
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| Subject: | Re: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Greg Vouga" <gmvouga@hotmail.com>
Lance,
Your welcome to swing by my shop in Raleigh. I'm working on the finishing
kit for my RV-7A. It's kind of drive from Winston-Salem, but I thought I
would offer anyhow.
Greg
>From: "Lance C. Arbuckle" <serv@arbuckle.org>
>To: rvsoutheast-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RVSouthEast-List: Flying Sunday & Airspeed Question
>Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 14:41:36 -0500
>
>--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Lance C. Arbuckle"
><serv@arbuckle.org>
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>
>Hi everyone. Since I believe there are no stupid questions, I'm going to
>ask.
>I've got my RV8 preview plans an have been reading over them but I'm
>having a hard time wrapping my brain around how some of the tools are
>used etc. I was wondering if any of you current builders might mind
>show me around your shop and explain the tools I'm going to need just so
>I can get the big picture. I'm in Winston-Salem NC so if there's anyone
> in my neck of the woods, please let me know..
>
>Lance Arbuckle
>Winston-Salem, NC
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| Subject: | Re: Separation Anxiety |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Well, I understand that there is a hangar in need of construction down at
GooseCreek {:>)
Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Bowen" <Larry@bowenaero.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 9:07 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: Separation Anxiety
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Larry Bowen"
> <Larry@BowenAero.com>
>
> Well, my plane is officially down for paint. I dropped it off at RUQ this
> afternoon and Cappy flew me home (Thanks). Now what am I going to do with
> myself for the next month...... Sigh
>
> -
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Gascolotor |
--> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Scott Tanner" <tannerav8@earthlink.net>
Paul,
I have an Andair that I am not going to use, I was going to put it on my 8,
but I am fuel injected and don't need it now. It is new in the box, let me
know if you want it.
Scott Tanner
tannerav8@earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 5:36 PM
Subject: RVSouthEast-List: RE: Gascolotor
> --> RVSouthEast-List message posted by: "Paul D. Franzon" <paulf@ncsu.edu>
>
>
> I was changing the oil on Sunday in my RV-4, and my "assistant" noticed
> gas
> pouring out of my gascolator when I ran the electric fuel pump. The fuel
> pump is in the cockpit (behind the battery) and the gascolator is on the
> pressure side of the pump, which is most likely not where it is meant to
> be.
>
> Question is what should I do? It seems to me that the easiest thing would
> be to change the gascolator to one that can take the pressure. Looking at
> Aircraft Spruce, there seems to be two candidates that seem to claim they
> do
> - Andair and Usher. I can't tell much from the photos in the catalog.
> The
> Andair is 2x the price of the Usher, but I can't tell if the Usher has a
> sump drain sample valve.
>
> Any suggestions or experience, please?
>
> Paul D. Franzon
> N418GM
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