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1. 12:04 AM - Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - 08/20/03 (Tiger67B)
2. 12:24 AM - Re: Re: TeamGrumman-List Digest: 3 Msgs - (Gil Alexander)
3. 03:40 AM - Re: Powder Coat for the engine mount (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Tiger67B <jnpsavage@cox.net>
Gary,
Is the vernatherm crimped nut business on the Tiger engine also?
Jan
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> 1. 04:32 AM - Re: TG-List: Vernitherm Question (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
> 2. 04:35 AM - Re: Powder Coat for the engine mount (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
> 3. 04:51 AM - Re: Powder Coat for the engine mount (Bradley Kidder)
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> Time: 04:32:36 AM PST US
> From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TG-List: Vernitherm Question
>
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/20/03 1:59:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes:
>
>
>>TG,
>>
>> I don't know if I even spelled it right, but my engine is an O-320B2B.
>> During the engine teardown that's on-going, the nut was pulled off the
>> accessory case and there was nothing behind the nut. No ball in the
>> sleeve--nothing. Is this proper? How does the engine know when to send
>
> oil
>
>> to the cooler without this, or is it designed to always go to the cooler?
>> My oil temps always seemed to take a while to warm up during run up--could
>> this have been the culprit?
>>
>> Steven Jackson
>> AA-1B
>> N1434R
>> L22
>> Yucca Valley, CA
>
> ===============
> Hi Steve:
>
> I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to. You say NUT, what nut? A
> Vernatherm is located on the back of the engine, on the accessory case, in the
>
> housing that is either your Fine Oil Screen or Adapter housing for a remote Oil
>
> Filter (ala-ADC, Oil Filter, or remote spin on filter). The Vernatherm has a
> large Hex Head that should look like a light color of Brass or Aluminum.
> There is also stampings on the head that give the temperature, 85 Deg C if I
> recall correctly.
>
> Now if this is what you are referring to, the Vernatherm has either a crimped
> nut or a roll-pin staked nut at the end of a threaded shaft that is about a
> 8-32 thread.
>
> If you have the crimped nut that it is your responsibility to inspect that
> nut at EVERY oil change. There is an AD against the Vernatherm and crimped nut,
>
> the Pin'd nut does not have that AD.
>
> If this is the part you are referring to and the nut and seating dome are
> missing then you are luck that you are doing a tare-down because those parts
must
>
> be floating around inside the engine. Not a good thing.
>
> Can the Vernatherm be rebuilt? YES, but not by you or your A&P. The parts
> must be replaced with new and there is a special cold height that must be
> maintained to insure the proper length movement of the hemisphere so it will
seat
>
> properly against the engine case. The engine case seat should also be checked
>
> and honed for proper fit.
>
> You can replace the Vernatherm with either the old or new style Vernatherm.
> Old, of course still keeps the AD requirement of inspection at every oil
> change.
>
> And as you say, your oil temps will take a bit longer to warm up. But the
> more important part is they will run HIGH because the oil is NOT getting to your
>
> oil cooler.
>
> Have you found the missing parts? Have you replaced the Vernatherm as yet?
> Are you interested in an Old style Vernatherm?
>
>
> Barry
> "Chop'd Liver"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
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> Time: 04:35:50 AM PST US
> From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Powder Coat for the engine mount
>
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
>
> In a message dated 8/20/03 2:03:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes:
>
>
>>TG,
>>
>> For anyone in the Southern Cali area, any recommendations for a shop to
>> powder coat the engine mount?
>>
>> Steven Jackson
>> AA-1B
>> N1434R
>> L22
>> Yucca Valley, CA
>
> =============
> Steve:
>
> I can tell you where NOT to go... General Magnaplate. Dollars to donuts they
> will warp your mount and be two weeks past delivery time on returning it to
> you.
>
> Barry
> "Chop'd Liver"
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:51:44 AM PST US
> From: Bradley Kidder <sparksnmagic@usa.net>
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Powder Coat for the engine mount
>
> --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bradley Kidder <sparksnmagic@usa.net>
>
> Barry is in touch with his feelings...
>
> Bradley Kidder
> N188FW AA-1 #124 "Hawg One"
> NTSB / EAA / AOPA / AYA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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08/20/03
--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Gil Alexander <gilalex@earthlink.net>
Jan ... same part number in all Lycomings.... gil A
At 12:03 AM 8/21/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Tiger67B <jnpsavage@cox.net>
>
>Gary,
>
>Is the vernatherm crimped nut business on the Tiger engine also?
>
>Jan
>
>
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> > formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked
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> > version of the TeamGrumman-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic
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> > Total Messages Posted Wed 08/20/03: 3
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> >
> > 1. 04:32 AM - Re: TG-List: Vernitherm Question (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
> > 2. 04:35 AM - Re: Powder Coat for the engine mount (FLYaDIVE@aol.com)
> > 3. 04:51 AM - Re: Powder Coat for the engine mount (Bradley Kidder)
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message
> 1 _____________________________________
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> >
> > Time: 04:32:36 AM PST US
> > From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
> > Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Re: TG-List: Vernitherm Question
> >
> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 8/20/03 1:59:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes:
> >
> >
> >>TG,
> >>
> >> I don't know if I even spelled it right, but my engine is an O-320B2B.
> >> During the engine teardown that's on-going, the nut was pulled off the
> >> accessory case and there was nothing behind the nut. No ball in the
> >> sleeve--nothing. Is this proper? How does the engine know when to send
> >
> > oil
> >
> >> to the cooler without this, or is it designed to always go to the cooler?
> >> My oil temps always seemed to take a while to warm up during run up--could
> >> this have been the culprit?
> >>
> >> Steven Jackson
> >> AA-1B
> >> N1434R
> >> L22
> >> Yucca Valley, CA
> >
> > ===============
> > Hi Steve:
> >
> > I'm not sure exactly what you are referring to. You say NUT, what nut? A
> > Vernatherm is located on the back of the engine, on the accessory case,
> in the
> >
> > housing that is either your Fine Oil Screen or Adapter housing for a
> remote Oil
> >
> > Filter (ala-ADC, Oil Filter, or remote spin on filter). The Vernatherm
> has a
> > large Hex Head that should look like a light color of Brass or Aluminum.
> > There is also stampings on the head that give the temperature, 85 Deg C
> if I
> > recall correctly.
> >
> > Now if this is what you are referring to, the Vernatherm has either a
> crimped
> > nut or a roll-pin staked nut at the end of a threaded shaft that is
> about a
> > 8-32 thread.
> >
> > If you have the crimped nut that it is your responsibility to inspect that
> > nut at EVERY oil change. There is an AD against the Vernatherm and
> crimped nut,
> >
> > the Pin'd nut does not have that AD.
> >
> > If this is the part you are referring to and the nut and seating dome are
> > missing then you are luck that you are doing a tare-down because those
> parts must
> >
> > be floating around inside the engine. Not a good thing.
> >
> > Can the Vernatherm be rebuilt? YES, but not by you or your A&P. The
> parts
> > must be replaced with new and there is a special cold height that must be
> > maintained to insure the proper length movement of the hemisphere so it
> will seat
> >
> > properly against the engine case. The engine case seat should also be
> checked
> >
> > and honed for proper fit.
> >
> > You can replace the Vernatherm with either the old or new style
> Vernatherm.
> > Old, of course still keeps the AD requirement of inspection at every oil
> > change.
> >
> > And as you say, your oil temps will take a bit longer to warm up. But the
> > more important part is they will run HIGH because the oil is NOT
> getting to your
> >
> > oil cooler.
> >
> > Have you found the missing parts? Have you replaced the Vernatherm as
> yet?
> > Are you interested in an Old style Vernatherm?
> >
> >
> > Barry
> > "Chop'd Liver"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message
> 2 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 04:35:50 AM PST US
> > From: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
> > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Powder Coat for the engine mount
> >
> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
> >
> > In a message dated 8/20/03 2:03:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > steven.jackson14@adelphia.net writes:
> >
> >
> >>TG,
> >>
> >> For anyone in the Southern Cali area, any recommendations for a shop to
> >> powder coat the engine mount?
> >>
> >> Steven Jackson
> >> AA-1B
> >> N1434R
> >> L22
> >> Yucca Valley, CA
> >
> > =============
> > Steve:
> >
> > I can tell you where NOT to go... General Magnaplate. Dollars to
> donuts they
> > will warp your mount and be two weeks past delivery time on returning
> it to
> > you.
> >
> > Barry
> > "Chop'd Liver"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________ Message
> 3 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> > Time: 04:51:44 AM PST US
> > From: Bradley Kidder <sparksnmagic@usa.net>
> > Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Powder Coat for the engine mount
> >
> > --> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: Bradley Kidder
> <sparksnmagic@usa.net>
> >
> > Barry is in touch with his feelings...
> >
> > Bradley Kidder
> > N188FW AA-1 #124 "Hawg One"
> > NTSB / EAA / AOPA / AYA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>--
>
>Call or email me for information on a NEW 2003 TIGER airplane,
>and be sure to check out TIGER AIRCRAFT'S NEW WEBSITE AT:
> www.tigeraircraft.com
>
>or visit our PERSONAL WEBSITE at: http://www.geocities.com/tiger67bravo/
>
>
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--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: FLYaDIVE@aol.com
In a message dated 8/20/03 7:52:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sparksnmagic@usa.net writes:
> Barry is in touch with his feelings...
>
> Bradley Kidder
> N188FW AA-1 #124 "Hawg One"
> NTSB / EAA / AOPA / AYA
============
Brad:
I don't know is that a good thing?
Barry
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