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1. 03:18 AM - Re: Tinnerman speed nuts #4 (grumpyparts)
2. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Tinnerman speed nuts #4 (Gary Vogt)
3. 10:11 AM - Battery box (Gary Vogt)
4. 11:22 AM - Re: Battery box (923te)
5. 12:19 PM - Re: Battery box (Dan Baisley)
6. 03:07 PM - Re: Battery box (Gary Vogt)
7. 04:01 PM - Re: Battery box (923te)
8. 04:01 PM - Fw: Battery box for a G-35 (923te)
9. 04:02 PM - Fw: Piper Cherokee Battery Box on eBay (923te)
10. 05:37 PM - Re: Battery box (Gary Vogt)
11. 05:39 PM - Re: Fw: Battery box for a G-35 (Gary Vogt)
12. 05:41 PM - Re: Fw: Piper Cherokee Battery Box on eBay (Gary Vogt)
13. 05:41 PM - Re: Fw: Piper Cherokee Battery Box on eBay (Gary Vogt)
14. 05:47 PM - Re: Battery box (923te)
15. 05:49 PM - Re: Fw: Battery box for a G-35 (923te)
16. 07:32 PM - Re: Fw: Piper Cherokee Battery Box on eBay (923te)
17. 08:43 PM - Battery Box (923te)
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| Subject: | Re: Tinnerman speed nuts #4 |
grumpyparts wrote:
> Alternative p/n NAS395-1 This company http://store.falconaviation.com/product.php?productid=78897 seems to have them at a reasonable price. The -3 on the end means zinc metal finish.
The site I mentioned for Falcon Aviation is a US company so may be best you contact
them rather than me.
The UK company that had some NAS395-1-3's in stock wanted $1.50 each, so I gave
them a miss and ordered 50 A6187-4Z-1 at $0.30 each.
Should be getting them Monday, I'll let you know what they are like.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=361126#361126
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| Subject: | Re: Tinnerman speed nuts #4 |
Thanks. -I haven't followed through with anything on those. -Not sure w
hat I'll do. -Maybe wait for Bob Steward to send 6 to me.=0A=0A=0A_______
_________________________=0A From: grumpyparts <i.r.m@btinternet.com>=0ATo:
teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:15 AM
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lconaviation.com/product.php?productid=78897 seems to have them at a reas
onable price. The -3 on the end means zinc metal finish.=0A=0A=0AThe site I
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k wanted $1.50 each, so I gave them a miss and ordered 50- A6187-4Z-1 at
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Do I even need a box to put the battery in? -The AGM batteries don't give
off gases.
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Gary
When I got the field approval 337 for the aft battery I had to put a vent tu
be in and drill a hole in the lower skin. Since the AGM Concorde battery had
the vent and since the original design had a vent the FAA inspector said it
was required for my field approval. Unless I wanted to go thru a series of t
ests and get backup data from Concorde to prove out a new design it was sugg
ested by the field inspector to just put in the drain
But you are right about there not being a physical need for the drain for th
e AGM battery. You can even mount them on their side or upside down.
Regards
Ned
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do I even need a box to put the battery in? The AGM batteries don't give o
ff gases.
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They don't vent gas in normal operation and allegedly will not leak electrol
yte even if the case has a hole. However they do have a pressure release va
lve that can blow if they are being severely overcharged, releasing oxygen, h
ydrogen, and perhaps some acid vapor.
Sent from my iPhone. Pls to xcuz my typos.
On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do I even need a box to put the battery in? The AGM batteries don't give o
ff gases.
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The RG-35 doesn't have a vent tube like the 24 volt does.=0A=0A=0A_________
_______________________=0A From: 923te <923te@att.net>=0ATo: "teamgrumman-l
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er 18, 2011 11:19 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box=0A =0A=0A
Gary=0AWhen I got the field approval 337 for the aft battery I had to put a
vent tube in and drill a hole in the lower skin. Since the AGM Concorde ba
ttery had the vent and since the original design had a vent the FAA inspect
or said it was required for my field approval. Unless I wanted to go thru a
series of tests and get backup data from Concorde to prove out a new desig
n it was suggested by the field inspector to just put in the drain=0A=0ABut
you are right about there not being a physical need for the drain for the
AGM battery. You can even mount them on their side or upside down.-=0A=0A
Regards=0ANed=0A=0ASent from my iPhone=0A=0AOn Dec 18, 2011, at 12:08 PM, G
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Oh yeah, Mine is the one with the manifold top that is a direct fit
replacement for the Tiger battery mount. The manifold has the ears on it
for the wing nuts to screw down onto the rods to hold the battery into
the mount.
I used the lightest version of the specified battery for my Tiger and
never have any start problems due to lack of voltage. That's with the
high power requirement of the Skytek starter too. Why do you want to put
in a heavier battery than the stock battery? There are other things you
can do to get the tail induced drag down.....
Probably by the time you get an STC the new Lithium ion batteries will
be available for our grummans. You might want to consider that before
investing a lot of time into a battery that will probably fade away in
the not to distant future. The lithuim ion battery will be half the
weight of the current battery. Maybe even less
http://www.concordebattery.com/lion.php
Here are some old emails we exchanged on battery boxes:
----- Original Message -----
From: 923te
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: battery boxes
You can get a stainless steel version of teh aluminum Cherokee box.
There are also some fiberglass boxes like Cessna's use. Scroll down this
link for a look see:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/el/batteryaccessories.html
There is a part that Bogert sells to adapt a Concord RG battery into the
Cherokee box....as I recall it is a spacer and longer bolt for the cable
connection to the battery and a nylon bushing for the battery box cable
openings. I think my mechanic just used a loger bolt with some washers
and used the existing rubber bushings when I first put in teh RG into
teh Cherokee 6....
Bogert adapters
http://www.bogert-av.com/battery_mod.php
Bogert SS box with pictures of aluminum and SS boxes
http://www.bogert-av.com/press.php
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From: 923te
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:18 AM
Subject: see the infamous block of wood in the lid?
Looks like the box is on its side and we're looking at the bottom with
the lid laying against it. We're seeing teh inside of the lid with the
rectangular block of wood that helps hold down the battery...
My AG5B TIger Aircraft Tiger does NOT have a battery box. It's top has
the hold down in it so you just bolt the top to the battery mount
frame. I was just going to move the mount without getting a battery box
like the Sabertooth has.
"Thats all I got to say about that."
----- Original Message -----
From: 923te
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
Here are a couple from the Sabertooth STC. Not very good I'll try and
take some and send you later. It's a very common Cherokee box.
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From: teamgrumman@aol.com
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
All I could see was pictures of batteries. Any pictures of the
battery boxes?
-----Original Message-----
From: 923te <923te@att.net>
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 7:18 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
Piper Cherokee and Comanche battery boxes, like in the Sabertoothed
Tiger
http://www.concordebattery.com/aag2.php?id=312
Anyone know of a battery box that is similar to the battery box on a
Tiger/Cheetah but is bigger to fit a size 35 battery?
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From: Gary Vogt
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box
The RG-35 doesn't have a vent tube like the 24 volt does.
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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box
Gary
When I got the field approval 337 for the aft battery I had to put a
vent tube in and drill a hole in the lower skin. Since the AGM Concorde
battery had the vent and since the original design had a vent the FAA
inspector said it was required for my field approval. Unless I wanted to
go thru a series of tests and get backup data from Concorde to prove out
a new design it was suggested by the field inspector to just put in the
drain
But you are right about there not being a physical need for the drain
for the AGM battery. You can even mount them on their side or upside
down.
Regards
Ned
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
Do I even need a box to put the battery in? The AGM batteries don't
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| Subject: | Fw: Battery box for a G-35 |
----- Original Message ----- -----
From: 923te
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
Here are a couple from the Sabertooth STC. Not very good I'll try and
take some and send you later. It's a very common Cherokee box.
----- Original Message -----
From: teamgrumman@aol.com
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
All I could see was pictures of batteries. Any pictures of the
battery boxes?
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From: 923te <923te@att.net>
To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 7:18 am
Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
Piper Cherokee and Comanche battery boxes, like in the Sabertoothed
Tiger
http://www.concordebattery.com/aag2.php?id=312
Anyone know of a battery box that is similar to the battery box on a
Tiger/Cheetah but is bigger to fit a size 35 battery?
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| Subject: | Fw: Piper Cherokee Battery Box on eBay |
----- Original Message -----
From: 923te
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:54 AM
Subject: Piper Cherokee Battery Box on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Aircraft-PA-28-Piper-Cherokee-Battery-Box-
PLUS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26439QQihZ022QQitemZ350025327031
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I was thinking the G-35 due to the losses in the cables. -Maybe I'm over
working the problem. -I can still put the smaller battery in the larger r
ack. -Just can't go the other way. -=0A=0AThe LiOn battery would be a g
ood choice. -It looks like a good idea. -Question is, when will they be
approved?=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: 923te <923te@a
tt.net>=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, December 18,
2011 3:59 PM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box=0A =0A=0A =0AOh y
eah, Mine is the one with the manifold top =0Athat is a direct fit replacem
ent for the Tiger battery mount. The manifold has =0Athe ears on it for the
wing nuts to screw down onto the rods to hold the battery =0Ainto the moun
t. =0A-=0AI used the lightest version of the specified =0Abattery for my
Tiger and never have any start problems due to lack of =0Avoltage.--Tha
t's with the high power requirement of the Skytek starter =0Atoo.-Why do
-you want to put in a heavier battery than the stock =0Abattery? There ar
e other things you can do to get the tail induced drag =0Adown.....=0A-
=0AProbably by the time-you get an STC the =0Anew Lithium ion batteries w
ill be available for our grummans. You might want to =0Aconsider that befor
e investing a lot of time into a battery that will probably =0Afade away in
the not to distant future.- The lithuim ion battery will be half the wei
ght of the =0Acurrent battery. Maybe even less=0A-=0Ahttp://www.concordeb
attery.com/lion.php=0A-=0AHere are some old emails we exchanged on =0Abat
tery boxes:=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: 923te =0ATo: Gary
Owen =0ASent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:06 AM=0ASubject: battery boxes=0A
=0AYou can get a stainless steel version of teh =0Aaluminum Cherokee box. T
here are also some fiberglass boxes like Cessna's use. =0AScroll down this
link for a look see:=0Ahttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/el/batteryaccess
ories.html=0A-=0AThere is a part that Bogert sells to adapt a =0AConcord
RG battery into the Cherokee box....as I recall it is a spacer and =0Alonge
r bolt for the cable connection to the battery and a nylon bushing for the
=0Abattery box cable openings. I think my mechanic just used a loger bolt w
ith some =0Awashers and used the existing rubber bushings when I first put
in teh RG into =0Ateh Cherokee 6.... =0A-=0ABogert adapters=0Ahttp://www.
bogert-av.com/battery_mod.php=0A-=0ABogert SS box with pictures of alumin
um and SS =0Aboxes=0Ahttp://www.bogert-av.com/press.php=0A-=0A-=0A-----
Original Message ----- =0AFrom: 923te =0ATo: Gary Vogt =0ASent: Monday, Ma
rch 10, 2008 8:18 AM=0ASubject: see the infamous block of wood in the lid?
=0A=0A-=0A-=0ALooks like the box is on its side and we're =0Alooking at
the bottom with the lid laying against it. We're seeing teh inside of =0At
he lid with the rectangular block of wood that helps hold down the =0Abatte
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It's top has the hold down in it so you just bolt the top to the =0Abattery
- mount frame. I was just going to move the mount without getting a =0Aba
ttery box like the Sabertooth has.=0A-=0A"Thats all I got to say about
=0Athat."=0A-=0A-=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: 923te
=0ATo: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:49
AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35=0A=0AHere-are
a couple-from the =0ASabertooth STC. Not very good I'll try and take some
and send you later. It's a =0Avery common Cherokee box.=0A----- Original M
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cs.com =0A>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:00 =0AAM=0A>Subject: Re: TeamGrum
man-List: Battery box for a G-35=0A>=0A>All I could see was pictures of ba
tteries. -Any pictures of the battery boxes?=0A>=0A>=0A>-----Original Me
ssage-----=0A>From: 923te =0A <923te@att.net>=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matr
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che-battery boxes, like in the Sabertoothed Tiger=0A>-=0A>http://www.c
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ery box that is similar to the battery box on a Tiger/Cheetah but is bigge
r to fit a size 35 battery?=0A-=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From:
Gary Vogt =0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Sunday, Decembe
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=0A>The RG-35 doesn't have a vent tube like the 24 volt does.=0A>=0A>=0A>
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attery box=0A>=0A>=0A>Gary=0A>When I got the field approval 337 for the aft
battery I had to put a vent tube in and drill a hole in the lower skin. S
ince the AGM Concorde battery had the vent and since the original design h
ad a vent the FAA inspector said it was required for my field approval. Un
less I wanted to go thru a series of tests and get backup data from Concor
de to prove out a new design it was suggested by the field inspector to ju
st put in the drain=0A>=0A>=0A>But you are right about there not being a ph
ysical need for the drain for the AGM battery. You can even mount them on
their side or upside down.-=0A>=0A>=0A>Regards=0A>Ned=0A>=0A>Sent from m
y iPhone=0A>=0A>On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Battery box for a G-35 |
I made a plate with a cutout for the raised edges on the holes in the cross
brace. My honeycomb sits flat against the brace without deforming either t
he honeycomb or the brace.=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From
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day, March 10, 2008 8:49 AM=0ASubject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box fo
r a G-35=0A=0AHere=C2-are a couple=C2-from the =0ASabertooth STC. Not v
ery good I'll try and take some and send you later. It's a =0Avery common C
herokee box.=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: teamgrumman@aol.com
=0A>To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:0
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Yea, I saw some of these. -Who knows.=0A=0A=0A___________________________
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I like the idea of a simple plastic box.=0A=0A=0A__________________________
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The Saber Toothed Tiger has the G-35 in the back with 00 cable but it's cran
king 6 cylinders
It uses the piper box like in the photos I sent earlier
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was thinking the G-35 due to the losses in the cables. Maybe I'm over w
orking the problem. I can still put the smaller battery in the larger rack.
Just can't go the other way.
>
> The LiOn battery would be a good choice. It looks like a good idea. Ques
tion is, when will they be approved?
>
> From: 923te <923te@att.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box
>
> Oh yeah, Mine is the one with the manifold top that is a direct fit replac
ement for the Tiger battery mount. The manifold has the ears on it for the w
ing nuts to screw down onto the rods to hold the battery into the mount.
>
> I used the lightest version of the specified battery for my Tiger and neve
r have any start problems due to lack of voltage. That's with the high powe
r requirement of the Skytek starter too. Why do you want to put in a heavier
battery than the stock battery? There are other things you can do to get th
e tail induced drag down.....
>
> Probably by the time you get an STC the new Lithium ion batteries will be a
vailable for our grummans. You might want to consider that before investing a
lot of time into a battery that will probably fade away in the not to dista
nt future. The lithuim ion battery will be half the weight of the current b
attery. Maybe even less
>
> http://www.concordebattery.com/lion.php
>
> Here are some old emails we exchanged on battery boxes:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 923te
> To: Gary Owen
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 9:06 AM
> Subject: battery boxes
>
> You can get a stainless steel version of teh aluminum Cherokee box. There a
re also some fiberglass boxes like Cessna's use. Scroll down this link for a
look see:
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/menus/el/batteryaccessories.html
>
> There is a part that Bogert sells to adapt a Concord RG battery into the C
herokee box....as I recall it is a spacer and longer bolt for the cable conn
ection to the battery and a nylon bushing for the battery box cable openings
. I think my mechanic just used a loger bolt with some washers and used the e
xisting rubber bushings when I first put in teh RG into teh Cherokee 6....
>
> Bogert adapters
> http://www.bogert-av.com/battery_mod.php
>
> Bogert SS box with pictures of aluminum and SS boxes
> http://www.bogert-av.com/press.php
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 923te
> To: Gary Vogt
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:18 AM
> Subject: see the infamous block of wood in the lid?
>
>
>
>
> Looks like the box is on its side and we're looking at the bottom with the
lid laying against it. We're seeing teh inside of the lid with the rectangu
lar block of wood that helps hold down the battery...
>
> My AG5B TIger Aircraft Tiger does NOT have a battery box. It's top has the
hold down in it so you just bolt the top to the battery mount frame. I was
just going to move the mount without getting a battery box like the Saberto
oth has.
>
> "Thats all I got to say about that."
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 923te
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
>
> Here are a couple from the Sabertooth STC. Not very good I'll try and take
some and send you later. It's a very common Cherokee box.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: teamgrumman@aol.com
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:00 AM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
>
> All I could see was pictures of batteries. Any pictures of the battery bo
xes?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 923te <923te@att.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 7:18 am
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
>
> Piper Cherokee and Comanche battery boxes, like in the Sabertoothed Tiger
>
> http://www.concordebattery.com/aag2.php?id=312
>
>
> Anyone know of a battery box that is similar to the battery box on a Tiger
/Cheetah but is bigger to fit a size 35 battery?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Vogt
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box
>
> The RG-35 doesn't have a vent tube like the 24 volt does.
>
> From: 923te <923te@att.net>
> To: "teamgrumman-list@matronics.com" <teamgrumman-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 11:19 AM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box
>
> Gary
> When I got the field approval 337 for the aft battery I had to put a vent t
ube in and drill a hole in the lower skin. Since the AGM Concorde battery ha
d the vent and since the original design had a vent the FAA inspector said i
t was required for my field approval. Unless I wanted to go thru a series of
tests and get backup data from Concorde to prove out a new design it was su
ggested by the field inspector to just put in the drain
>
> But you are right about there not being a physical need for the drain for t
he AGM battery. You can even mount them on their side or upside down.
>
> Regards
> Ned
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Do I even need a box to put the battery in? The AGM batteries don't give
off gases.
>>
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I think I just used washers and got the same spacing you're talking about
Moved the solenoid back there too
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:36 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I made a plate with a cutout for the raised edges on the holes in the cros
s brace. My honeycomb sits flat against the brace without deforming either t
he honeycomb or the brace.
>
> From: 923te <923te@att.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 3:59 PM
> Subject: TeamGrumman-List: Fw: Battery box for a G-35
>
> =EF=BB
>
> ----- Original Message ----- -----
> From: 923te
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 8:49 AM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
>
> Here are a couple from the Sabertooth STC. Not very good I'll try and take
some and send you later. It's a very common Cherokee box.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: teamgrumman@aol.com
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 1:00 AM
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
>
> All I could see was pictures of batteries. Any pictures of the battery bo
xes?
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 923te <923te@att.net>
> To: teamgrumman-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 7:18 am
> Subject: Re: TeamGrumman-List: Battery box for a G-35
>
> Piper Cherokee and Comanche battery boxes, like in the Sabertoothed Tiger
>
> http://www.concordebattery.com/aag2.php?id=312
>
>
> Anyone know of a battery box that is similar to the battery box on a Tiger
/Cheetah but is bigger to fit a size 35 battery?
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fw: Piper Cherokee Battery Box on eBay |
Gary
Have you thought about having Dave build just exactly what you are thinking a
bout? Should be very easy to do with fiberglass.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:38 PM, Gary Vogt <teamgrumman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I like the idea of a simple plastic box.
>
>
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Gary
Have you thought about having Dave build just exactly what you are thinking a
bout? Should be very easy to do with fiberglass.
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