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1. 05:12 AM - Re: XDP4000X-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/11/03 (JGold@elfcu.org)
2. 12:22 PM - Re: cdx-c90 and mp3 (Paul Chambers)
3. 12:23 PM - Re: Re: XDP4000X-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/11/03 (Doug Dobson)
4. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: XDP4000X-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/11/03 (JGold@elfcu.org)
5. 12:45 PM - Re: Sony XES (Doug Dobson)
6. 04:40 PM - Locating an XDP4000X for the folks at PhatNoise (Paul Chambers)
7. 11:29 PM - Re: Re: XDP4000X-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/11/03 (Lord Dremgragen)
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03/12/2003 08:12:25 AM
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: JGold@elfcu.org
Hello All,
I am looking for a RM-X90 rotary remote for the C-90 or Z-50 for sale.
Some one at my local body shop thought it would be funny to jack with mine
even though the deck was out of the car so now mine is not working 100%.
If anyone has a spare that they would like to get rid of please let me know
and in the mean time I am going to rip the body shop manager a new one.
Thanks,
Jayson Gold
PC/Network Specialist
Eli Lilly Federal Credit Union
225 S. East Street, Suite 300
Indianapolis, IN 46202
317-276-3055
800-621-2105
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1. 07:44 AM - cdx-c90 and mp3 (ToR)
2. 08:42 AM - Re: cdx-c90 and mp3 ()
3. 11:39 AM - master and XDP-4000X problem (ToR)
4. 01:41 PM - Re: master and XDP-4000X problem (Dremgragen .)
5. 10:40 PM - Re: Sony XES (ToR)
6. 11:21 PM - Re: Sony XES (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 07:44:39 AM PST US
From: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 and mp3
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Does anyone have an mp3 player installed with cdx-c90 or any other sony?
There are two sony compatible players I know of
Sony Edition PhatNoise Car Audio System, $799.00
http://store.yahoo.com/phatnoise/products.html
Dension DMP3 Player, $359.99
http://www.densionusa.com/products.htm
please tell if anyone used or tried anything similar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Botelho
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:25 AM
> To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more)
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho
> <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
>
> So, it's fact that it will not work?
>
> :-( I guess the MP3 player will keep me happy...
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniel
>
> Doug Dobson wrote:
>
> >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
> <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
> >
> >No luck with the C-910.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 08:42:19 AM PST US
From: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 and mp3
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
I'm using the CDX-T70MX with no issues, except for the lack
of MP3 names...
The C90 has a listing of songs/names with the changer...
Personally, I'd just get an MP3 changer and that's it. Much cheaper than
the phat
kegs...
Daniel
>
> From: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
> Date: 2003/03/11 Tue AM 10:43:43 EST
> To: <xdp4000x-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 and mp3
>
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
>
> Does anyone have an mp3 player installed with cdx-c90 or any other sony?
> There are two sony compatible players I know of
>
> Sony Edition PhatNoise Car Audio System, $799.00
> http://store.yahoo.com/phatnoise/products.html
>
> Dension DMP3 Player, $359.99
> http://www.densionusa.com/products.htm
>
> please tell if anyone used or tried anything similar
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
> > list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Botelho
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:25 AM
> > To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more)
> >
> > --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho
> > <dbotel6500@rogers.com>
> >
> > So, it's fact that it will not work?
> >
> > :-( I guess the MP3 player will keep me happy...
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > Doug Dobson wrote:
> >
> > >--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
> > <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
> > >
> > >No luck with the C-910.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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________________________________ Message 3
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Time: 11:39:39 AM PST US
From: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: master and XDP-4000X problem
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Hi,
I'm thinking of using the Sony MDX-C8500X (or something else) as master
with DVX-100, XT-U500V and hopefully DMP3 mp3 player.
I want to use XDP-4000X but here is my problem
1) does the XDP-4000X delay the sound about 500ms? Which would cause
sync problem with video??
2) I'm not sure if MDX-C8500X (or newer head units) will control
XDP-4000X
3) I'm not sure if MDX-C8500X has digital out.
4) MDX-C8500X has HX DSP, Crutchfield says Sony's most powerful built-in
signal processing package ever.
HX DSP has;
7-band equalizer 8 presets (Rock, Vocal, Jazz, Classic, Groove, Talk,
Techno, and Custom)
Digital Seat Position (5 settings)
Dynamic Soundfield Organizer (DSO) (8 presets = soundfields + speaker
height/width enhancements)
Also MDX-C8500X has 3 sets of 4v RCA outs.
any help is hugely appreciated
Thnx.
________________________________ Message 4
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Time: 01:41:46 PM PST US
From: "Dremgragen ." <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: master and XDP-4000X problem
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ."
<dremgragen@hotmail.com>
4) MDX-C8500X has HX DSP, Crutchfield says Sony's most powerful built-in
signal processing package ever.
HX DSP has;
7-band equalizer 8 presets (Rock, Vocal, Jazz, Classic, Groove, Talk,
Techno, and Custom)
Digital Seat Position (5 settings)
Dynamic Soundfield Organizer (DSO) (8 presets = soundfields + speaker
height/width enhancements)
Also MDX-C8500X has 3 sets of 4v RCA outs.
Yeah, but that HX DSP can't hold a candle to the 4000X in bothaudiophile
sound
tinkering and options...and what are you going to do about a crossover?
I've never
heard an internal EQ/DSP that I liked. They usually change the sound more
than "fix" it. I like my music to sound natural is I can possibly get it.
And a quality I wish other Audiophile head units had... C90 has ESP. I
think that
if the Pioneer P9 had ESP and bigger crossover slopes, I'd try it. I've
been
spoiled with C90/4KX and now I feel like it's "downgrading" if I go with
something
else. :-/
-Brody Z.
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Time: 10:40:19 PM PST US
From: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
XES-Z50 filters the sound to 3 parts
XDP-4000X divides to 4
I think the biggest difference is that XES-Z50 can do individual
parametric eq on front(5 band), rear(5 band) and sub(2 band)
XDP-4000X has 10 band peq, XES-Z50 has 12 band
Also here are the crossover points for both
XDP-4000X
6.34 kHz
5.03 kHz
4.00 kHz
1.25 kHz
793 Hz
500 Hz
99 Hz
78 Hz
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XES-Z50
8.00 kHz
6.34 kHz
5.03 kHz
4.00 kHz
3.17 kHz
99 Hz
88 Hz
78 Hz
does anyone have the specs for the older 91' XES P1 & X1
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
> <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
>
> And for those of you who are really curious, I believe the Z-50 has
the
> same crossover points as the XDP-4000X.
________________________________ Message 6
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Time: 11:21:38 PM PST US
From: NOTGSXR@aol.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 3/12/03 1:41:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
calculathor@hotmail.com writes:
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
>
> XES-Z50 filters the sound to 3 parts
> XDP-4000X divides to 4
> I think the biggest difference is that XES-Z50 can do individual
> parametric eq on front(5 band), rear(5 band) and sub(2 band)
> XDP-4000X has 10 band peq, XES-Z50 has 12 band
> Also here are the crossover points for both
>
> XDP-4000X
> 6.34 kHz
> 5.03 kHz
> 4.00 kHz
> 1.25 kHz
> 793 Hz
> 500 Hz
> 99 Hz
> 78 Hz
> ---------
> XES-Z50
> 8.00 kHz
> 6.34 kHz
> 5.03 kHz
> 4.00 kHz
> 3.17 kHz
> 99 Hz
> 88 Hz
> 78 Hz
>
> does anyone have the specs for the older 91' XES P1 &X1
Wouldn't it be nice to get crossover points somewhere between 78hz-99hz for
the sub,78hz-250hz midbass, 200hz - 3khz midrange, and tweets somewhere
between 25khz and 3khz up.........
one can dream huh......... though i think that there would be a way to
program the XDP4k as well as the Z50......... if any of us know how.......
tisk tisk..... i'll go back to bed now :)
Dan
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Paul Chambers" <xdp4000x-list@lists.bod.org>
Yes, I have a PhatBox hooked up to a C90/XDP-4000X system, as does Matt
Dralle (owner of this list).
It has some quirks, but basically works. Probably the biggest criticism
is that the only disc navigation right now is 'disc' up/down, which gets
tedious really first. There are some bugs relating to updating the
display on the C90 if the title is long, for the first title after a
disc 'load'. The 4000x doesn't recognize it as a changer either, so
currently you have to put the analog output of the PhatBox in parallel
with that of the head unit.
The good news is that the engineer responsible for maintaining the Sony
firmware at PhatNoise is genuinely interested in diagnosing the issues
and fixing what he can.
I have no real info on the Dension unit. I did see their booth at the
last CES, but I didn't realize they had a Unilink-compatible version at
the time. I'd be curious to learn more too, if someone on the list has
one, and cares to write a mini-review.
Paul
> --> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <calculathor@hotmail.com>
>
> Does anyone have an mp3 player installed with cdx-c90 or any
> other sony?
> There are two sony compatible players I know of
>
> Sony Edition PhatNoise Car Audio System, $799.00
> http://store.yahoo.com/phatnoise/products.html
>
> Dension DMP3 Player, $359.99
> http://www.densionusa.com/products.htm
>
> please tell if anyone used or tried anything similar
>
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
I believe I have an extra remote without the cable. Is this all you need?
I'll go search for it today.
Let me know if I can help.
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03/12/2003 03:34:56 PM
--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: JGold@elfcu.org
Cool,
Yea that will work!! I still have the base and wire still hooked up just
need the remote part. Let me know how much you want for it.
Thanks,
Jayson Gold
PC/Network Specialist
Eli Lilly Federal Credit Union
225 S. East Street, Suite 300
Indianapolis, IN 46202
317-276-3055
800-621-2105
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
<dougdobson@chartermi.net>
I believe I have an extra remote without the cable. Is this all you need?
I'll go search for it today.
Let me know if I can help.
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson" <dougdobson@chartermi.net>
For whomever asked for specs on the origional XES system.
As a 3way system:
Low high limit 78, 88, 99, 111, 125, 140, 157,175, 198 Hz
Mid High limit 2.00, 2.24, 2.51, 2.82, 3.17, 3.56, 4.00, 4.48, 5.03,
5.56, 6.34, 7.12, 8.00 kHz
High Low limit
Or as a 4 way system:
Low high limit 78, 88, 99, 111, 125, 140, 157, 176, 198 Hz
Low-Mid high limit 629, 707, 793, 890 Hz, 1.00, 1.12, 1.25, 1.41,
1.58, 1.78 kHz
High-Mid high limit 3.17, 3.56, 4.00, 4.48, 5.03, 5.65, 6.34, 7.12,
8.00 kHz
High low limit
Non-adjustable 70 dB/oct slopes
0.0 - 9.9ms time delay
phase of each chan adjustable individually
each chan adjustable from 0 to -10 dB or off
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Paul Chambers" <xdp4000x-list@lists.bod.org>
Does anyone know of a good source for a XDP4000X, besides eBay?
It's for a good cause. I've made contact with the firmware engineer at
PhatNoise for the Sony version. He's finally emerged from under a pile
of work, and wants to take a look at the C90/XDP4000X issues we've
reported.
He has already sourced a C90 - but still needs a XDP4000X.
Any suggestions?
Paul
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--> XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Lord Dremgragen" <dremgragen@hotmail.com>
I was actually planning on putting mine on eBay here in the next week or so. It's
new, never been used. I've always wanted to use it, but I just have no room
in my car.
e-mail me: <A href="mailto:dremgragen@hotmail.com">dremgragen@hotmail.com if you're
interested. I'm not sure what to ask for it yet, so if you can help me with
price a little, maybe we can work something out. I have lots of references
too.
-Brody Z.
From: JGold@elfcu.org
Subject: XDP4000X-List: Re: XDP4000X-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 03/11/03
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: JGold@elfcu.org
Hello All,
I am looking for a RM-X90 rotary remote for the C-90 or Z-50 for sale.
Some one at my local body shop thought it would be funny to jack with mine
even though the deck was out of the car so now mine is not working 100%.
If anyone has a spare that they would like to get rid of please let me know
and in the mean time I am going to rip the body shop manager a new one.
Thanks,
Jayson Gold
PC/Network Specialist
Eli Lilly Federal Credit Union
225 S. East Street, Suite 300
Indianapolis, IN 46202
317-276-3055
800-621-2105
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 07:44 AM - cdx-c90 and mp3 (ToR)
2. 08:42 AM - Re: cdx-c90 and mp3 ()
3. 11:39 AM - master and XDP-4000X problem (ToR)
4. 01:41 PM - Re: master and XDP-4000X problem (Dremgragen .)
5. 10:40 PM - Re: Sony XES (ToR)
6. 11:21 PM - Re: Sony XES (NOTGSXR@aol.com)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 07:44:39 AM PST US
From: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 and mp3
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
Does anyone have an mp3 player installed with cdx-c90 or any other sony?
There are two sony compatible players I know of
Sony Edition PhatNoise Car Audio System, $799.00
http://store.yahoo.com/phatnoise/products.html
Dension DMP3 Player, $359.99
http://www.densionusa.com/products.htm
please tell if anyone used or tried anything similar
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Botelho
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:25 AM
To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more)
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho
<DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM>
So, it's fact that it will not work?
:-( I guess the MP3 player will keep me happy...
Thanks,
Daniel
Doug Dobson wrote:
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
<DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
No luck with the C-910.
________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 08:42:19 AM PST US
From: <DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 and mp3
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: <DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM>
I'm using the CDX-T70MX with no issues, except for the lack
of MP3 names...
The C90 has a listing of songs/names with the changer...
Personally, I'd just get an MP3 changer and that's it. Much cheaper than
the phat
kegs...
Daniel
From: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 2003/03/11 Tue AM 10:43:43 EST
To: <XDP4000X-LIST@MATRONICS.COM>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 and mp3
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
Does anyone have an mp3 player installed with cdx-c90 or any other sony?
There are two sony compatible players I know of
Sony Edition PhatNoise Car Audio System, $799.00
http://store.yahoo.com/phatnoise/products.html
Dension DMP3 Player, $359.99
http://www.densionusa.com/products.htm
please tell if anyone used or tried anything similar
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-xdp4000x-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-xdp4000x-
list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Botelho
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:25 AM
To: xdp4000x-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: cdx-c90 vs. cdx-c90r (and more)
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: Daniel Botelho
<DBOTEL6500@ROGERS.COM>
So, it's fact that it will not work?
:-( I guess the MP3 player will keep me happy...
Thanks,
Daniel
Doug Dobson wrote:
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
<DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
No luck with the C-910.
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Time: 11:39:39 AM PST US
From: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: master and XDP-4000X problem
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
Hi,
I'm thinking of using the Sony MDX-C8500X (or something else) as master
with DVX-100, XT-U500V and hopefully DMP3 mp3 player.
I want to use XDP-4000X but here is my problem
1) does the XDP-4000X delay the sound about 500ms? Which would cause
sync problem with video??
2) I'm not sure if MDX-C8500X (or newer head units) will control
XDP-4000X
3) I'm not sure if MDX-C8500X has digital out.
4) MDX-C8500X has HX DSP, Crutchfield says Sony's most powerful built-in
signal processing package ever.
HX DSP has;
7-band equalizer 8 presets (Rock, Vocal, Jazz, Classic, Groove, Talk,
Techno, and Custom)
Digital Seat Position (5 settings)
Dynamic Soundfield Organizer (DSO) (8 presets = soundfields + speaker
height/width enhancements)
Also MDX-C8500X has 3 sets of 4v RCA outs.
any help is hugely appreciated
Thnx.
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Time: 01:41:46 PM PST US
From: "Dremgragen ." <DREMGRAGEN@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: master and XDP-4000X problem
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Dremgragen ."
<DREMGRAGEN@HOTMAIL.COM>
4) MDX-C8500X has HX DSP, Crutchfield says Sony's most powerful built-in
signal processing package ever.
HX DSP has;
7-band equalizer 8 presets (Rock, Vocal, Jazz, Classic, Groove, Talk,
Techno, and Custom)
Digital Seat Position (5 settings)
Dynamic Soundfield Organizer (DSO) (8 presets = soundfields + speaker
height/width enhancements)
Also MDX-C8500X has 3 sets of 4v RCA outs.
Yeah, but that HX DSP can't hold a candle to the 4000X in bothaudiophile
sound
tinkering and options...and what are you going to do about a crossover?
I've never
heard an internal EQ/DSP that I liked. They usually change the sound more
than "fix" it. I like my music to sound natural is I can possibly get it.
And a quality I wish other Audiophile head units had... C90 has ESP. I
think that
if the Pioneer P9 had ESP and bigger crossover slopes, I'd try it. I've
been
spoiled with C90/4KX and now I feel like it's "downgrading" if I go with
something
else. :-/
-Brody Z.
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Time: 10:40:19 PM PST US
From: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: RE: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
XES-Z50 filters the sound to 3 parts
XDP-4000X divides to 4
I think the biggest difference is that XES-Z50 can do individual
parametric eq on front(5 band), rear(5 band) and sub(2 band)
XDP-4000X has 10 band peq, XES-Z50 has 12 band
Also here are the crossover points for both
XDP-4000X
6.34 kHz
5.03 kHz
4.00 kHz
1.25 kHz
793 Hz
500 Hz
99 Hz
78 Hz
---------
XES-Z50
8.00 kHz
6.34 kHz
5.03 kHz
4.00 kHz
3.17 kHz
99 Hz
88 Hz
78 Hz
does anyone have the specs for the older 91' XES P1 X1
-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "Doug Dobson"
<DOUGDOBSON@CHARTERMI.NET>
And for those of you who are really curious, I believe the Z-50 has
the
same crossover points as the XDP-4000X.
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Time: 11:21:38 PM PST US
From: NOTGSXR@aol.com
Subject: Re: XDP4000X-List: Sony XES
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: NOTGSXR@aol.com
In a message dated 3/12/03 1:41:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
calculathor@hotmail.com writes:
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: "ToR" <CALCULATHOR@HOTMAIL.COM>
XES-Z50 filters the sound to 3 parts
XDP-4000X divides to 4
I think the biggest difference is that XES-Z50 can do individual
parametric eq on front(5 band), rear(5 band) and sub(2 band)
XDP-4000X has 10 band peq, XES-Z50 has 12 band
Also here are the crossover points for both
XDP-4000X
6.34 kHz
5.03 kHz
4.00 kHz
1.25 kHz
793 Hz
500 Hz
99 Hz
78 Hz
---------
XES-Z50
8.00 kHz
6.34 kHz
5.03 kHz
4.00 kHz
3.17 kHz
99 Hz
88 Hz
78 Hz
does anyone have the specs for the older 91' XES P1 X1
Wouldn't it be nice to get crossover points somewhere between 78hz-99hz for
the sub,78hz-250hz midbass, 200hz - 3khz midrange, and tweets somewhere
between 25khz and 3khz up.........
one can dream huh......... though i think that there would be a way to
program the XDP4k as well as the Z50......... if any of us know how.......
tisk tisk..... i'll go back to bed now :)
Dan
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