Yak-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/22/03


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 05:24 AM - Re: Depression #6 (Brian Lloyd)
     2. 05:28 AM -  Re: trip to MTW/OSH (Janet Davidson)
     3. 08:18 AM - [Fw: Yak 18T] (Jim Ivey)
     4. 09:45 AM - Re: My last letter (Ernest Martinez)
     5. 10:28 AM - To MTW from The West and Northwest (Yakjock)
     6. 12:59 PM - MTW/OSH (MFilucci@aol.com)
     7. 01:44 PM - Re: MTW/OSH (Aviatr@aol.com)
     8. 04:22 PM - Re: MTW/OSH (Bpx2horn@aol.com)
     9. 06:57 PM - Re: MTW/OSH (Dee Grimm)
    10. 07:35 PM - Re: yak-52 flight instruments (Gus Fraser)
    11. 08:14 PM - Re: yak-52 flight instruments (Ernie)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:24:50 AM PST US
    From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com>
    Subject: Re: Depression #6
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> Sam Sax wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> > > Brian, > > Glad to see you are no longer in the Cross Hairs of Depression #6 - I had a > slot waiting for your bird - will be there for the next time too...:) Thanks Sam. But next hurricane it will probably be my Comanche, not the Aztec. I am taking the Aztec back to the states to sell. I am hoping that Randy will finish The Project this year and I will have a CJ to play with down here. > By the way, does this mean that its going for Miami... Gee, this Hurricane > season is almost as welcome as my ex in-laws attorney. Tropical Depression 6 got so depressed that it degenerated back into a tropical wave. You may have dodged the bullet too. Regardless, it put on a light show for us with multiple CBs blasting through here last night. Wind gusts hit 40 kts but it was mostly benign. -- Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 +1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax GMT-4


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    Time: 05:28:48 AM PST US
    From: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: trip to MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Janet Davidson" <gbvfx@hotmail.com> Jim If you get this far, you've made it! ;) For all of you coming to OSH, as always, if I can do anything to help at this end, give me a call - 920 203 0046. If I'm on the ground, I won't be very far away. Have a good flight and fun at MTW. Janet Time: 07:31:51 PM PST US From: cjpilot710@aol.com Subject: Re: Yak-List: trip to MTW/OSH --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com In a message dated 7/21/2003 7:45:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rmfitz@direcway.com writes: >--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> > >Jim, >If you get this far and run out of daylight or weather you can stay over @ >Corn Field. Craig's been here. >bob > Will definitely keep you in mind Bob. Thanks. Jim Goolsby "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin 1759 "With my shield, or on it" Trojan Warriors BC "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes until some woman stomps all over them." Unknown older man. Ph: 920 232 9238 email: gbvfx@hotmail.com >From: Yak-List Digest Server <yak-list-digest@matronics.com> >Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com >To: Yak-List Digest List <yak-list-digest@matronics.com> >Subject: Yak-List Digest: 31 Msgs - 07/21/03 >Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 23:58:22 -0700 > >* > > ================================================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================== > >Today's complete Yak-List Digest can be also be found in either >of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest >formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked >Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII >version of the Yak-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic >text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. > >HTML Version: > > >http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2003-07-21.html > >Text Version: > > >http://www.matronics.com/digest/yak-list/Digest.Yak-List.2003-07-21.txt > > > ================================================ > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================ > > > Yak-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 07/21/03: 31 > > >Today's Message Index: >---------------------- > > 1. 01:36 AM - Re: I-3 (Mark Schrick) > 2. 02:18 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/18/03 >(N188rv@aol.com) > 3. 04:40 AM - cartoon (Lee Taylor) > 4. 05:27 AM - Re: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation (Brian >Lloyd) > 5. 06:28 AM - Re: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation (Lee >Taylor) > 6. 06:51 AM - Yak 52 panel screws (Tom Johnson) > 7. 07:58 AM - Alert! (Deon Esterhuizen) > 8. 09:55 AM - A little Aviation Humor (cjpilot710@aol.com) > 9. 10:14 AM - Found Man (Yakjock) > 10. 10:16 AM - Re: Alert! (Bob Fitzpatrick) > 11. 10:40 AM - trip to MTW/OSH (cjpilot710@aol.com) > 12. 10:47 AM - Re: Alert! (Deon Esterhuizen) > 13. 10:57 AM - Re: Yak 52 panel screws (Doug) > 14. 11:05 AM - Re: trip to MTW/OSH (Brian Lloyd) > 15. 11:40 AM - Re: Propellor governor (Dave Laird) > 16. 12:56 PM - Re: Alert! (Lee Taylor) > 17. 01:06 PM - Iris gills (Doug) > 18. 01:09 PM - Re: Iris gills (cjpilot710@aol.com) > 19. 01:57 PM - Re: Iris gills (Doug) > 20. 04:45 PM - Re: trip to MTW/OSH (Bob Fitzpatrick) > 21. 05:41 PM - JL-2 Props (Jay McIntyre) > 22. 05:58 PM - Surging M14P....and the easy >fix........................ (Frank Haertlein) > 23. 07:31 PM - Re: trip to MTW/OSH (cjpilot710@aol.com) > 24. 07:39 PM - Letter to the editor (Ernie) > 25. 07:44 PM - Re: Letter to the editor (cjpilot710@aol.com) > 26. 07:49 PM - Letter (FamilyGage@aol.com) > 27. 08:01 PM - oops (Ernie) > 28. 08:05 PM - Re: Letter (Ernie) > 29. 08:07 PM - Letter to the editor (Ernie) > 30. 08:11 PM - Letter to the editor (Ernie) > 31. 09:01 PM - Depression #6 (Sam Sax) > > >________________________________ Message 1 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 01:36:24 AM PST US >From: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> >Subject: RE: Yak-List: I-3 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Mark Schrick" <schrick@pacbell.net> > >Hope to see that CJ at OSH this year. Good luck with the CJ. >When will you have a "go....NO GO point? Late next week? > >Good luck and be safe. > >SHREK > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Barry Hancock >Subject: Yak-List: I-3 > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Barry Hancock <radialpower@cox.net> > > > > > > > Barry, > > > > How is the new fire breathing, dogfighting machine of yours (Interovia > > E-3)? > > > > By now that thing should be breaking all kinds of envelopes records > > over the > > CJ. > > > > Hope all is well and keep us informed on the E-3 progress and what you > > find > > while flying it. > > > > Enquiring minds what to know........... > > > > Mark "SHREK" Schrick > >The Interavia I-3 (Russians pronounce "I" as "E") is getting a going >over and I'm not going to "explore the envelope" until I have Sergei in >my back seat in mid-August. For now, just trying like heck to get the >CJ ready in time for OSH.... <sigh> > >Barrry > > > >Barry Hancock >Director of Operations >Red Stars, Inc. >949.300.5510 >www.allredstar.com >"Communism - Lousy Politics, Great Airplanes" > > >________________________________ Message 2 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 02:18:24 AM PST US >From: N188rv@aol.com >Subject: Yak-List: Re: Yak-List Digest: 8 Msgs - 07/18/03 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: N188rv@aol.com > >Does anyone have the address for the Yak Association or the War Bird >Association. As a new Yak owner I guess I should join up. > >Stan Mehrhoff > > >________________________________ Message 3 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 04:40:55 AM PST US >From: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> >Subject: Yak-List: cartoon > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> > > >All you pilots think you're hot stuff, huh? > >Check out the Klyde Morris cartoon this week to find out who really has >the skill, talent, and knowledge in aviation. :>)) > >http://www.klydemorris.com/strips.cfm > >Lee Taylor > > >________________________________ Message 4 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 05:27:11 AM PST US >From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> > >Alan Cockrell wrote: > > > Brian, There is no easy and totally safe way to do this. > >Agreed. > > > That's why > > we picked a Fighter Weapons School graduate with F-4, F-5, and A-7 > > time to do it. Joing into the slot position in the diamond is easy if > > moving laterally from the wing, but it is tricky when joing from a > > high energy staight ahead closure. An overshoot would result in a > > dangerous underrun of the leader. Conversely, joining in the > > traditional fingertip slot would provide a straight ahead escape path > > in case of an overshoot. This is better, especially if the overshoot > > contingency is prebriefed. > >I agree 100%. Regardless, joining directly into the #3 position strikes me >as >even more dangerous than joining into the slot. Regardless, this strikes >me as >a three-beer problem that needs to be solved in the hangar at the end of >the >day. > >-- > >Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 >brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 >+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax >GMT-4 > > >________________________________ Message 5 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 06:28:21 AM PST US >From: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Brian Lloyd > Re: "Found Man" Formation > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> > >Alan Cockrell wrote: > > > Brian, There is no easy and totally safe way to do this. > >Agreed. > > > That's why > > we picked a Fighter Weapons School graduate with F-4, F-5, and A-7 > > time to do it. Joing into the slot position in the diamond is easy if > > moving laterally from the wing, but it is tricky when joing from a > > high energy staight ahead closure. An overshoot would result in a > > dangerous underrun of the leader. Conversely, joining in the > > traditional fingertip slot would provide a straight ahead escape path > > in case of an overshoot. This is better, especially if the overshoot > > contingency is prebriefed. > >I agree 100%. Regardless, joining directly into the #3 position strikes >me as even more dangerous than joining into the slot. Regardless, this >strikes me as a three-beer problem that needs to be solved in the hangar >at the end of the day. > > >----totally agree with all the above comments. ANY formation work is >potentially hazardous, and must be approached with total >professionalism, preplanning, and practice. > I am reminded of a movie clip that was taken after the end of >WWII, when a flight of Australian Mosquitos was coming back home. They >were landing at their home field in Australia, diamond formation, last >official flight of their war. They made a low pass for the home field >crowd waiting to greet them, and midfield, the leader pulled up sharply, >obviously unexpectedly. His wingmen were above and tight, they both hit >him with their wings, blowing off his tail and their wings. The debris >destroyed the slot man. > This stuff ain't casual, guys, but this formation, properly >planned and practiced by competent pilots, I think is a wonderful idea. > > > PS In my opinion, the safe way to do this in any manner is >VERTICAL separation, until stabilized. Same for almost any other >formation work. Look at any of the pro formation teams. They are never >exactly at the same vertical level. And the trail guys are always low. > > >Lee Taylor > >-- > >Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 >brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 >+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax >GMT-4 > > >________________________________ Message 6 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 06:51:54 AM PST US >From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 panel screws > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > >Anyone have a source for instrument panel screws for Yak 52? >Talking about the pilot 1 and pilot 2 cockpit main flight instrument panel. > >Appears the screws are M3 & M4, oval head, countersunk steel or stainless >with >an odd angle countersink (phillips). >Need lots of them. > >Please advise off list. > >Tom J. >tjohnson@cannonaviation.com > > >________________________________ Message 7 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 07:58:34 AM PST US >Subject: Yak-List: Alert! >From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" ><desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > >Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I >decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was >purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to >discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that >the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil >reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the >tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the >oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped >directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. > >I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for >symptoms of metal fatigue. > >Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is >with the damaged ends already sawed off. > >Deon Esterhuizen >1990 yak 52 >N192YK > > >________________________________ Message 8 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 09:55:35 AM PST US >From: cjpilot710@aol.com >Subject: Yak-List: A little Aviation Humor > gaf127enl@msn.com, MDSHELLEY@aol.com, yakjock@msn.com, > walterfricke@yahoo.com, finleycj6@juno.com, BDorsey777@aol.com, > wildf15c@hotmail.com, Swifty305@aol.com, tcalloway@datatechnique.com, > paulcfitzgerald@attbi.com, mason.t@worldnet.att.net, >radialpower@cox.net > >--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > >Some may have already seen this, but I still read these things which speak >volumes of reality. From a Navy guy of course. You have to keep it simple >for > >them. >Jim Goolsby > >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, >deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 >"With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC >"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes >until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > >From: "thomas mason" <mason.t@worldnet.att.net> >Subject: Fw: Aviation Humor > > >TOM MASON >----- Original Message ----- >From: Capttom >Subject: Aviation Humor > > >AVIATION HUMOR > >Blue water Navy truism: There are more planes in the ocean than there are >submarines >in the sky. > >If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a >helicopter >-- and therefore, unsafe. > >Navy carrier pilots to Air Force pilots: Flaring is like squatting to pee. > >When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane, you always have enough >power left >to get you to the scene of the crash. > >Without ammunition, the USAF would be just another expensive flying club. > >What is the similarity between air traffic controllers (ATC) and pilots? > >If a pilot screws up, the pilot dies. If ATC screws up, the pilot dies. > >Never trade luck for skill. > >The three most common expressions (or famous last words) in aviation are: > >"Why is it doing that?" "Where are we?" and "Oh, s--t!" > >Weather forecasts are horoscopes with numbers. > >Airspeed, altitude, or brains: two are always needed to complete the >flight=20successfully. > >A smooth landing is mostly luck; two in a row is all luck; three in a row >is prevarication. > >Mankind has a perfect record in aviation: we never left one up there! > >Flashlights are tubular metal containers kept in a flight bag for the >purpose of >storing dead batteries. > >Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a >person=20on >the ground incapable of understanding it or doing anything about it. > >When a flight is proceeding incredibly well, you forgot something. > >Just remember, if you crash because of weather, your funeral will be held >on a >sunny day. > >Advice given to Royal Air Force pilots during World War II: When a prang >(crash) >seems inevitable, endeavor to strike the softest, cheapest object in the >vicinity >as slowly and gently as possible. > >The Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world: it can just barely kill >you. >(Attributed to Max Stanley, Northrop test pilot) > >A pilot who doesn't have any fear probably isn't flying his plane to its >maximum. >(Jon McBride, astronaut) > >If you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash >as possible. >(Bob Hoover - renowned aerobatic and test pilot) > >If an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it. Ride the bastard >down. >(Ernest K. Gann, author &aviator) > >Though I fly through the Valley of Death, I shall fear no evil, for I am >at=2080,000 >feet and climbing. (sign over the entrance to the SR-71 operating location >in Kadena, Japan). > >You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F. >Crickmore=20- >test pilot) > >Never fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you. > >There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime. (Sign over >squadron >operations desk at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Arizona, 1970). > >The three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a >good=20bowel >movement. The night carrier landing is one of the few opportunities in >life >where you get to experience all three at the same time. (Author unknown, >but >someone who's been there) > >"Now I know what a dog feels like watching TV." (A DC-9 captain trainee >attempting >to check out on the "glass cockpit" of an A-320). > >If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. > >Basic Flying Rules: Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near >the edges >of it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, >buildings, sea, trees, and interstellar space. It is much more difficult to >fly >there. > >You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power >to taxi >to the terminal. > > ><HTML xmlns"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"> > ><META contentWord.Document nameProgId> ><META content"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" nameGENERATOR> ><LINK href"cid:filelist.xml@01C34F6A.4FED8640" relFile-List><!--[if gte >mso 9]><xml> > <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> > <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> > </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> ></xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > <w:WordDocument> > <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> > <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> > <w:EnvelopeVis/> > <w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing>4.5 pt</w:DrawingGridHorizontalSpacing> > </w:WordDocument> ></xml><![endif]--> > > ></STYLE> ><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > <o:shapedefaults v:ext"edit" spidmax"1027"/> ></xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> > <o:shapelayout v:ext"edit"> > <o:idmap v:ext"edit" data"1"/> > </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--> > > >TOM MASON >----- Original Message ----- >From: <A titlecapttom@cfl.rr.com href"mailto:capttom@cfl.rr.com">Capttom >Subject: Aviation Humor > > ><![if !supportEmptyParas]><![endif]><o:p></o:p> > > >AVIATION >HUMOR > > >Blue >water Navy truism: There are more planes in the ocean than there are >submarines >in the sky. > >If >the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a >helicopter -- >and therefore, unsafe. > >Navy >carrier pilots to Air Force pilots: Flaring is like squatting to >pee. > >When >one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane, you always have enough power >left to >get you to the scene of the crash. > >Without >ammunition, the USAF would be just another expensive flying >club. > >What >is the similarity between air traffic controllers (ATC) and >pilots? > >If >a pilot screws up, the pilot dies. If ATC screws up, the pilot >dies. > >Never >trade luck for skill. > >The >three most common expressions (or famous last words) in aviation >are: > >"Why >is it doing that?" "Where are we?" and "Oh, s--t!" > >Weather >forecasts are horoscopes with numbers. > >Airspeed, >altitude, or brains: two are always needed to complete the flight >successfully. > >A >smooth landing is mostly luck; two in a row is all luck; three in a row is >prevarication. > >Mankind >has a perfect record in aviation: we never left one up there! > >Flashlights >are tubular metal containers kept in a flight bag for the purpose of >storing >dead batteries. > >Flying >the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the >ground incapable of understanding it or doing anything about >it. > >When >a flight is proceeding incredibly well, you forgot something. > >Just >remember, if you crash because of weather, your funeral will be held on a >sunny >day. > >Advice >given to Royal Air Force pilots during World War II: When a prang (crash) >seems >inevitable, endeavor to strike the softest, cheapest object in the >vicinity=20as >slowly and gently as possible. > >The >Piper Cub is the safest airplane in the world: it can just barely kill you. >(Attributed to Max Stanley, Northrop test pilot) > >A >pilot who doesn't have any fear probably isn't flying his plane to its >maximum. >(Jon McBride, astronaut) > >If >you're faced with a forced landing, fly the thing as far into the crash as >possible. (Bob Hoover - renowned aerobatic and test pilot) > >If >an airplane is still in one piece, don't cheat on it. Ride the bastard >down. >(Ernest K. Gann, author aviator) > >Though >I fly through the <ST1:PLACE><ST1:PLACETYPE>Valley</ST1:PLACETYPE> of ><ST1:PLACENAME>Death</ST1:PLACENAME></ST1:PLACE>, I shall fear no evil, >for=20I >am >at 80,000 feet and climbing. (sign over the entrance to >the SR-71 operating location in <ST1:PLACE><ST1:CITY>Kadena</ST1:CITY>, ><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>Japan</ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE>). > >You've >never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F. Crickmore - test >pilot) > >Never >fly in the same cockpit with someone braver than you. > >There >is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime. (Sign >over squadron operations desk at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Arizona, >1970). > >The >three best things in life are a good landing, a good orgasm, and a good >bowel >movement. The night carrier landing >is one of the few opportunities in life where you get to experience all >three at >the same time. (Author unknown, but someone who's been there) > >"Now >I know what a dog feels like watching TV." (A DC-9 captain >trainee attempting to check out on the "glass cockpit" of an >A-320). > >If >something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to. > >Basic >Flying Rules: Try to stay in the middle of the air. Do not go near the >edges of >it. The edges of the air can be recognized by the appearance of ground, >buildings, sea, trees, and interstellar space. It is much more difficult >to=20fly >there. > >You >know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to >taxi to >the terminal.<o:p></o:p> > > >________________________________ Message 9 >_____________________________________ > > >Time: 10:14:12 AM PST US >From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Found Man > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> > >Alan, > >Clever idea! > >Another thought: The two elements could fly a parallel but separated track >and >then merge over the wedding party. Symbolically this would be closer to a >joining >of equals. > >#4 joining to a Diamond: With the "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" thought in >mind, >it looks like a small dog coming from behind to mount a much larger animal >- from >below! Negative male pictures. > >The picture that comes to mind of the "found man" joining in as #3 is that >of a >little chick running to get under Mama's wing. Again, not studly. > >Hal > > >________________________________ Message 10 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 10:16:14 AM PST US >From: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Alert! > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> > >Deon, > You're one lucky guy. Could you tell us how many hours on the plane. Any >damage history? >Thanks. >bob >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Alert! > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" ><desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > > > > Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I > > decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was > > purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to > > discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that > > the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil > > reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the > > tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the > > oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped > > directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. > > > > I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for > > symptoms of metal fatigue. > > > > Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is > > with the damaged ends already sawed off. > > > > Deon Esterhuizen > > 1990 yak 52 > > N192YK > > > > > > >________________________________ Message 11 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 10:40:57 AM PST US >From: cjpilot710@aol.com >Subject: Yak-List: trip to MTW/OSH > >--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > >Well troops, >Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to build >into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by >early >Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, >even as > >just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the Mississippi >Valley > >northward. > >This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ We're (my GIB Craig Payne) >are >going to watch #6. If by Thursday morning he/she is in central Cuba as >forecast, we'll leave that afternoon. If she turns more westerly toward >the >Yucatan, we may leave on Saturday morning as planned. If she take a more >northerly > >track, it will be in central FL. by Saturday morning. > >Getting ready to make a run for it ! > >Jim Goolsby > >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, >deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 >"With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC >"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes >until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > > >________________________________ Message 12 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 10:47:06 AM PST US >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Alert! >From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" ><desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > >Hi Bob, > >189.5 hours - prop, airframe and engine. The only damage history is an >"almost" gear-up incident. The previous owner pulled the gear up while >sitting on the taxi way. The right aileron and wing tip had very light >damage. I'm now trying to get my hands on chromoly tubing to here in >Florida to fix the problem. > >Deon. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bob Fitzpatrick [mailto:rmfitz@direcway.com] >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Alert! > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> > >Deon, > You're one lucky guy. Could you tell us how many hours on the plane. >Any >damage history? >Thanks. >bob >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Deon Esterhuizen" <desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Alert! > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" ><desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > > > > Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I > > decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was > > purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to > > discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that > > the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil > > reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the > > tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the > > oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped > > directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. > > > > I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for > > symptoms of metal fatigue. > > > > Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is > > with the damaged ends already sawed off. > > > > Deon Esterhuizen > > 1990 yak 52 > > N192YK > > > > > > >________________________________ Message 13 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 10:57:34 AM PST US >From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Yak 52 panel screws > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > >Tom, >Check to see if hey are the same as used in a CJ, I just may have some. > >Always yakin, >Doug Sapp >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom Johnson" <tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Yak 52 panel screws > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Tom Johnson" ><tjohnson@cannonaviation.com> > > > > Anyone have a source for instrument panel screws for Yak 52? > > Talking about the pilot 1 and pilot 2 cockpit main flight instrument >panel. > > > > Appears the screws are M3 & M4, oval head, countersunk steel or >stainless >with an odd angle countersink (phillips). > > Need lots of them. > > > > Please advise off list. > > > > Tom J. > > tjohnson@cannonaviation.com > > > > > > >________________________________ Message 14 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 11:05:06 AM PST US >From: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: trip to MTW/OSH > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> > >cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > > Well troops, > > Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to >build > > into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by >early > > > Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, >even >as > > just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the >Mississippi Valley > > > northward. > >Yeah, it looks like we may have dodged the bullet down here. Thank you >everyone >who offered to help. > > > This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ > >Which means it stands a chance of being right. > >-- > >Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 >brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 >+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax >GMT-4 > > >________________________________ Message 15 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 11:40:37 AM PST US >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Propellor governor >From: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com> > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Dave Laird <dave@davelaird.com> > > >On Friday, July 18, 2003, at 05:20 PM, jay reiter wrote: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "jay reiter" <jmreiter@adelphia.net> > > > > Does the housai really get 2350 rpm or are the governors set to 2150 > > for reduced power in China. We have checked everything except the > > tach. We are trying to borrow an optical tach to eliminate the tach. > > > > >Yeah, they really get to 2350. Check the tach cable assembly to make >sure it is secure. Have someone move the prop lever in the cockpit and >watch to make sure the cable housing in the engine compartment isn't >"sliding" and keeping you from actually reaching the 2350 position. >Mine was doing this and I just had it fixed during the annual >inspection. > >good luck. > >Dave Laird >N63536 "Betty" >Dallas > > >________________________________ Message 16 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 12:56:01 PM PST US >From: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> >Subject: RE: Yak-List: Alert! > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Lee Taylor" <leetay@idcomm.com> > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Deon Esterhuizen" ><desterhuizen@hyphos360.com> > > > > Saturday morning before I went out for a bit of aerobatic flight, I > > decided to lift the cowling on my 52 for a quick inspection. It was > > purely by chance that I pulled on the left top main engine mount - to > > discover the bottom tubing had snapped in two. The danger here is that > > the fracture was hidden directly behind the vertical situated oil > > reservoir. To best conclusion I can make at this stage is that the > > tubing snapped over a period of time because of high G loading on the > > oil reservoir and then transferred to the tubing. The tubing snapped > > directly next to the oil reservoir clamp. > > > > I think it is worth the while to check your 52's engine mount for > > symptoms of metal fatigue. > > >-----Guys, one other related item. PLEASE check your mounts for any >kind of fastener that is NOT a rubber-mounted Adel clamp, or doesn't >have some kind of tubing protector under whatever fastener is securing >whatever to the mount tubes. > I have replaced or repaired three engine mounts in my career >because someone used tiewraps or unprotected clamps to secure items to >the motor mounts. Oil and dirt collects under them, forming grinding >compound under vibration, and the tubes literally get cut. One of the >tubes wasn't broken, it was worn completely through. > >Lee Taylor > > > > Go to www.jdlsolutions.com/yak52 for pictures. The pictures I show is > > with the damaged ends already sawed off. > > > > Deon Esterhuizen > > 1990 yak 52 > > N192YK > > > > > > >________________________________ Message 17 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 01:06:40 PM PST US >From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Iris gills > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > >Listers and lurkers, >I am looking for an "iris type" set of gill shutters for a M14. Anyone >know of >a set please let me know. > >Flowers are all dead, I won again. > >Always yakin, >Doug Sapp > > >________________________________ Message 18 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 01:09:12 PM PST US >From: cjpilot710@aol.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Iris gills > >--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > >In a message dated 7/21/2003 4:07:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >rvfltd@televar.com writes: > > > Flowers are all dead, I won again. > > > > Always yakin, > > Doug Sapp > > > > > > > >So are you coming to OSH??????????? >Jim Goolsby > >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, >deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 >"With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC >"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes >until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > > >________________________________ Message 19 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 01:57:45 PM PST US >From: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Iris gills > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Doug" <rvfltd@televar.com> > > > So are you coming to OSH??????????? > > Jim Goolsby > >No, now I am going to work on finishing up the mini yak! But first I will >finish Hal's custom panel, Dave's Cleveland nose wheel conv., Andy's stock >blank panel, a few fuel cap covers, a mod to keep the fuel balanced on long >X countries (that one is almost done), Randy's aux tanks, and then I get to >work on my baby............."the cobblers children go barefoot". > >Gonna go yakin once again, >Doug > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <cjpilot710@aol.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Iris gills > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > > In a message dated 7/21/2003 4:07:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > rvfltd@televar.com writes: > > > > > Flowers are all dead, I won again. > > > > > > Always yakin, > > > Doug Sapp > > > > > > > > > > > > > So are you coming to OSH??????????? > > Jim Goolsby > > > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, > > deserve neither liberty nor safety" > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > "With my shield, or on it" > > Trojan Warriors BC > > "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like >grapes > > until some woman stomps all over them." > > Unknown older man. > > > > > > >________________________________ Message 20 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 04:45:20 PM PST US >From: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: trip to MTW/OSH > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> > >Jim, >If you get this far and run out of daylight or weather you can stay over @ >Corn Field. Craig's been here. >bob >----- Original Message ----- >From: <cjpilot710@aol.com> >Subject: Yak-List: trip to MTW/OSH > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > > Well troops, > > Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to >build > > into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by >early > > Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, >even as > > just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the >Mississippi >Valley > > northward. > > > > This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ We're (my GIB Craig Payne) >are > > going to watch #6. If by Thursday morning he/she is in central Cuba as > > forecast, we'll leave that afternoon. If she turns more westerly toward >the > > Yucatan, we may leave on Saturday morning as planned. If she take a >more >northerly > > track, it will be in central FL. by Saturday morning. > > > > Getting ready to make a run for it ! > > > > Jim Goolsby > > > > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, > > deserve neither liberty nor safety" > > Benjamin Franklin 1759 > > "With my shield, or on it" > > Trojan Warriors BC > > "The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like >grapes > > until some woman stomps all over them." > > Unknown older man. > > > > > > >________________________________ Message 21 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 05:41:13 PM PST US >From: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com> >Subject: Yak-List: JL-2 Props > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jay McIntyre" <jayatnowra@hotmail.com> > >Hi... anyone know anything about the Chinese JL-2 3-bladed props advertised >on >Barnstormers recently? > > ><EM>Regards, Jay</EM> > >P.S. see you at Classic Fighters 2005! > ><A href="http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/">www.classicfighters.co.nz > > >________________________________ Message 22 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 05:58:39 PM PST US >From: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net> >Subject: Yak-List: Surging M14P....and the easy fix........................ > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" ><yak52driver@earthlink.net> > > >Yaksters: >As regards my engine surging problem......... > >The back-firing was caused by a crossfire between two plug wires due to >carbon tracing in the distributor cap. Cleaning that up solved the >backfiring issue. That was the easy part but the engine still surged up >and down at a regular rate between approx 40 and 55%. > >After talking to the guys doing the maintenance on the 1939 Rosco-Turner >replica here at Cal City, one of the mechanics instantly said "I know >what the problem is! You've got an induction leak!" > >An induction leak was found due to loose carburetor bolts. The bolts >were tightened and the surging went away. > >At low idle, the supercharger does not have enough boost to pressurize >the intake so the engine sucks more or less atmospheric pressure. >Because the engine was sucking air thru the base of the carb gasket the >engine would run lean. This speeds up the engine momentarily. The >speedup of the engine is enough to cause the blower to start functioning >and thus the engine now gets a normal, low level boost mixture. This >then causes the engine to slow down and idle normally again. At that >point the engine is again sucking air at close to atmospheric pressure >whereupon it speeds up again because of the lean condition and thus >causing the blower to become functional again. It's a vicious cycle. If >you see your engine surging up and down its caused by an induction leak. > >Frank >N9110M > > >________________________________ Message 23 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 07:31:51 PM PST US >From: cjpilot710@aol.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: trip to MTW/OSH > >--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > >In a message dated 7/21/2003 7:45:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >rmfitz@direcway.com writes: > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: Bob Fitzpatrick <rmfitz@direcway.com> > > > > Jim, > > If you get this far and run out of daylight or weather you can stay over >@ > > Corn Field. Craig's been here. > > bob > > > >Will definitely keep you in mind Bob. Thanks. >Jim Goolsby > >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, >deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 >"With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC >"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes >until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > > >________________________________ Message 24 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 07:39:23 PM PST US >From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Letter to the editor > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > >Well I just received my latest issue of warbirds and unfortunately I was >not suprised >to see that the Yak Pilots Association and their formation clinic out of >MTW wasnt mentioned in your "from the co's cockpit" editorial. You seemed >to >know about all the North American and L-39 outings but not a peep about >ours. > > I'm sure its possible that you didnt know, but they've been staging from >there >for some years now. You cant miss them, they're those really big formations >at >Sun& Fun and Air Venture every year that darken the skys in prefect >symmetry >outnumbering all the other formations. > > What is it about the Warbird leadership that makes you constantly snub >the Yaks >and CJ's? Is it that we are the fastest growing warbird segment in the >country, >or is it that only real warbirds were made by North American and Grumman. >I'm sure its not the fact that they're from communist countries because you >give >the L-39 guys lots of attention. Maybe you're just sore that our planes are >easy to maintain, sipp very small amounts of fuel, and manuvers well and >sounds >great, and all for under $80k. > >I can understand your resenment at all these "Cheap" planes invading your >shows, >kinda like having trailer trash move in next door. I'm sorry I didnt have a >spare Million to go buy myself a Mustang, and I really couldnt afford the >oil >bill for a T6. Maybe you guys should change the name to "EAA American >Warbirds >and L-39 guys" and we can have "EAA Warbirds that the other guys dont like" >Then >we can have our very own section at Air Venture, even though it may be in >Fon Du Loc or someplace even more remote, like the YAK parking area at last >years >Air Venture. > >Sincerely > >Ernest Martinez >YPA, CJAA, EAA, WOA, IAC member > > >________________________________ Message 25 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 07:44:36 PM PST US >From: cjpilot710@aol.com >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Letter to the editor > >--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > >ouch! Remind me to never get you mad at me Ernie. ;-) > >Jim Goolsby > >"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety, >deserve neither liberty nor safety" > Benjamin Franklin 1759 >"With my shield, or on it" > Trojan Warriors BC >"The reason older men are like fine wine. When young, they are like grapes >until some woman stomps all over them." > Unknown older man. > > >________________________________ Message 26 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 07:49:11 PM PST US >From: FamilyGage@aol.com >Subject: Yak-List: Letter > >--> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com > >Ernie, >Good job on your letter. Just saw that Jim agreed. For once he would not >be >on the EAA hot seat. We need more members to speak out because we are not >only the present, but the future! >By the way, Jim are you still planning on leaving on Saturday with Craig. >I >hope to leave on Sunday with my daughter. Let me know. >Ray Gage > > >________________________________ Message 27 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 08:01:29 PM PST US >From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> >Subject: Yak-List: oops > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > >Never mind, I made it to page 36. > >Thanks > >Ernie > > >________________________________ Message 28 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 08:05:33 PM PST US >From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> >Subject: Re: Yak-List: Letter > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > >Well guys, > >A lesson to be learned is that you should read the entire magazine first >before sending a letter to the editor, there is a story by Jim Goolsby on >Page 36, and then another story about Bushi Chengs by Bud Davisson airplane >on page 38. > >So as usual, I insert foot in mouth. > >Ernie >----- Original Message ----- >From: <FamilyGage@aol.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Letter > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: FamilyGage@aol.com > > > > Ernie, > > Good job on your letter. Just saw that Jim agreed. For once he would >not >be > > on the EAA hot seat. We need more members to speak out because we are >not > > only the present, but the future! > > By the way, Jim are you still planning on leaving on Saturday with >Craig. >I > > hope to leave on Sunday with my daughter. Let me know. > > Ray Gage > > > > > > >________________________________ Message 29 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 08:07:07 PM PST US >From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Letter to the editor > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > >Oh it just keeps getting better, > >Theres a full page pic of a Yak 52 on the back cover. > >Ernie > > >________________________________ Message 30 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 08:11:11 PM PST US >From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Letter to the editor > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > >Dear Mike, > >I'd like to apologize for my last email, since I didnt read the entire >magazine >and failed to notice not 1 but 2 articles devoted to yaks and CJ's but and >then >the kicker, a full page photo of a Yak 52 on the rear cover. > >I'll remove my shoe from my mouth later > >Embarrased, > >Ernest Martinez > > >________________________________ Message 31 >____________________________________ > > >Time: 09:01:38 PM PST US >From: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> >Subject: Yak-List: Depression #6 > >--> Yak-List message posted by: "Sam Sax" <cd001633@mindspring.com> > >Brian, > >Glad to see you are no longer in the Cross Hairs of Depression #6 - I had a >slot waiting for your bird - will be there for the next time too...:) > >By the way, does this mean that its going for Miami... Gee, this Hurricane >season is almost as welcome as my ex in-laws attorney. > >Cheers, > >Sam > > >--> Yak-List message posted by: Brian Lloyd <brian@lloyd.com> > >cjpilot710@aol.com wrote: > > --> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com > > > > Well troops, > > Tropical Depression 6 is coming up the chute. It moving to fast to >build > > into a hurricane but it may be in Florida or off the our west coast by >early > > Saturday. If it makes landfall in the MS, AL area by Saturday evening, >even as > > just a depression, its going to sour the weather right up the >Mississippi >Valley > > northward. > >Yeah, it looks like we may have dodged the bullet down here. Thank you >everyone who offered to help. > > > This is my prognostication, not NOAA's. :-\ > >Which means it stands a chance of being right. > >-- > >Brian Lloyd 6501 Red Hook Plaza, Suite 201 >brian@lloyd.com St. Thomas, VI 00802 >+1.340.998.9447 - voice +1.360.838.9669 - fax >GMT-4 > > Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess


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    From: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com>
    Subject: [Fwd: Yak 18T]
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Jim Ivey <jim@jimivey.com> Photo is here: http://www.popav.com/PhotoGallery/1486.jpg -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Yak 18T From: "Russian Aero" <russian@russianaero.com> <mailto:jefflinebaugh@earthlink.net> Hello Jim, I had your email to Gerry Byrnes forwarded to me. My Yak 18T was imported by me from Russia in 1997. It is on the Russian FLA registration and I am a licenced Russian FLA engineer. Between 1998 and 2001, I did a full strip, refabric and bare metal 2 pack paint job. New hoses, air compressor, tyres, brake drums etc. The FLA inspections, in the good old days, was 'on condition'. My aircraft was inspected by Andry Schnirev, the FLA Chief Enginner last year. Due to UK-CAA legislation, it has become virtually impossible (no-impossible) to operate the aircraft in the UK. We have to go for Hungarian registrations, which is not a route I care to chose. Last flew the aircraft on May 31st for 2.5 hours. The attached file shows aircraft in hangar with 90% of paint job completed. Airfarme is 1580 hours Engine 560 hours (TBO 750) Interior is original Russian and needs re-furbishment. This was to be my next job. Zero-timed SARW (Shakhty Aero Repair Works - Rostov) M14P engines also available. Avionics - completely standard Russian, except for Western headset jacks and power supply for GPS. Prop is working fine, but on Russian system is now due for overhaul. You should be aware that transport requires open top shipping container and special support to turn aircraft through 90 degrees, as the width is 3.13 metres with wings removed. Aircraft hangared, based in UK - West Wales at Haverfordwest Airfield - EGFE The aircraft is for sale, as is, where is, but I would naturally assist with dismantling and crating. M14P engine, zero-timed, in SARW crate, complete US$12,000 not negotiable. Price - US$37,000 ovno Kind regards, Keith Elcomb http://www.popav.com/PhotoGallery/1486.jpg


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    Time: 09:45:41 AM PST US
    From: "Ernest Martinez" <Ernest.Martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: RE: My last letter
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernest Martinez" <Ernest.Martinez@oracle.com> Thanks for your response. Please let the matter be, I'm embarrased enough as it is :) Thanks Ernie -----Original Message----- From: Kim Rosenlof [mailto:kim@aeroink.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:56 AM To: 'Ernie' Subject: RE: My last letter Ernie, Thanks for your e-mails. Please do read the entire magazine before getting your dander up. J I have heard for a while from the CJ-6 and Yak-52 owners that we are not giving them enough space, and the articles were planned even well before the June issue when we mistakenly identified a CJ-6 as a Yak-52. We also made an effort at AirVenture 2002 to get one of our volunteer photographer/writers in the back of a CJ-6 to do air-to-air coverage (which is how we got the Yak on the back cover), and there's a story in the works about the Yak-52 tailwheel conversion project (I forget the gentleman's name - George?) that will run in early 2004. One of the problems with trying to cover different events is that we have no staff. Even I am only paid as a part-time contractor, and we have no budget for travel (other than to Sun 'n Fun and Oshkosh). So unless a Warbirds member writes up something about an event, we have little chance of covering it in the magazine. I certainly would welcome any text and photos that you or other members send in about CJ-6 or Yak-52 events. We can run them as stand-alone articles, or if several members from a Warbirds Squadron attend or are involved in an event, we can run it in Squadron News. Feel free to send in any information to Warbirds Editor, P.O. Box 28362, Tempe, AZ 85285-8362 or simply e-mail me the text and digital photos (of high quality or super high quality). BTW, your e-mails came to me as editor, so Mike hasn't seen them. Did you want me to forward them to Mike? Or let the matter drop? Kim ---------- Kim Rosenlof, Editor Warbirds magazine EAA Warbirds of America 480-736-1445 -----Original Message----- From: Ernie [mailto:ernest.martinez@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 8:17 PM To: krosenlof@eaa.org Subject: My last letter Dear Mike, I'd like to apologize for my last email, since I didnt read the entire magazine and failed to notice not 1 but 2 articles devoted to yaks and CJ's but and then the kicker, a full page photo of a Yak 52 on the rear cover. I'll remove my shoe from my mouth later Embarrased, Ernest Martinez PS I did CC the YPA on a previous version of this letter but I had a typo in your email address so it didnt make it to you.


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    Time: 10:28:09 AM PST US
    From: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com>
    Subject: To MTW from The West and Northwest
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Yakjock" <Yakjock@msn.com> Lads and Lassies, Several of us are planning to fly together to MTW this coming weekend from the West Coast. Our first gathering point will be at Rock Springs, Wyoming, this coming Saturday. I'll be flying from Portland, Oregon via Boise and Logan Cache, Utah. Blitz Fox and Steve Holifield will be departing the Bay Area via Elko and Salt Lake. Current plans are to overnight Saturday at either Casper or Cheyenne, see Rushmore and the Badlands Sunday morning, and then direct from Pierre to MTW by Sunday evening. Anyone wanting to join in along the route let us know. Look forward to seeing everyone in Manitowoc! Hal Morley


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    Time: 12:59:02 PM PST US
    From: MFilucci@aol.com
    Subject: MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com Fellow Warbird Drivers, I am planning the logistics for MTW/OSH and would like to get a good head count. Following is the list of the 28 pilots who have pre-registered or otherwise indicated they are coming. If you are not listed here and plan to attend, please let me know, off list, at mfilucci@aol.com. Thanks, Mike Drew Blahnick Tom Beamer Terry Calloway Scott McMillan Bob Fitzpatrick Keith Harbour Byron Fox Walt Fricke Craig Payne Don Andrews Jim Goolsby Steve Hollifield Robert Langford Paul Hornick Ray Gage Ray Reeves Forest Johnson Dab Fortin Dee Grimm John Admundson Rob Mortara Phil Cogan Terry Slawinski Al DeVere Harry Dutson Skip Slyfield Rodger Modglin Mike Filucci


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    Time: 01:44:59 PM PST US
    From: Aviatr@aol.com
    Subject: Re: MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Aviatr@aol.com Dear Mike: I know that Joe Wilkins is coming in with me. Barry Mead and Roy Murray can't get away and won't be attending. We will be arriving Monday in OSH and Thursday in MTW. See you there. Kong


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    Time: 04:22:11 PM PST US
    From: Bpx2horn@aol.com
    Subject: Re: MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: Bpx2horn@aol.com Mike, I was wondering if I would be able to attend the FAST ground school with the day that I have scheduled for Sergei? Thanks, Paul Hornick


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    Time: 06:57:17 PM PST US
    From: "Dee Grimm" <deegrimm@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: MTW/OSH
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Dee Grimm" <deegrimm@cox.net> Hi Mike, I got the thing off my hand yesterday. Don Andrews and I flew this morning to check out my hand and it's a go. We are planning to leave Phoenix Sunday morning and be there either late Sunday or very early Monday. I will be bringing the laptop. I am unable to get anything out of the data base program. Maybe you can give me a little help while we are there. Regards, Dee ----- Original Message ----- From: <MFilucci@aol.com> Subject: Yak-List: MTW/OSH > --> Yak-List message posted by: MFilucci@aol.com > > Fellow Warbird Drivers, > > I am planning the logistics for MTW/OSH and would like to get a good head > count. Following is the list of the 28 pilots who have pre-registered or > otherwise indicated they are coming. If you are not listed here and plan to attend, > please let me know, off list, at mfilucci@aol.com. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > Drew Blahnick > Tom Beamer > Terry Calloway > Scott McMillan > Bob Fitzpatrick > Keith Harbour > Byron Fox > Walt Fricke > Craig Payne > Don Andrews > Jim Goolsby > Steve Hollifield > Robert Langford > Paul Hornick > Ray Gage > Ray Reeves > Forest Johnson > Dab Fortin > Dee Grimm > John Admundson > Rob Mortara > Phil Cogan > Terry Slawinski > Al DeVere > Harry Dutson > Skip Slyfield > Rodger Modglin > Mike Filucci > >


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    Time: 07:35:51 PM PST US
    From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net>
    Subject: yak-52 flight instruments
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> Ernie, I will pack a hammock feel free to swing between my main gear for a couple of days. Yak 52 main gear makes a great place to hang a hammock :) There is a new hotel in Fond Dulac that is trying to get trade for the week. It is some time since I looked but they had rooms a month ago. If is the country in suites in Fond Dulac. Sorry can't be of more help than that. Gus -----Original Message----- From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie Subject: Re: Yak-List: yak-52 flight instruments --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Does anyone know if there is commercial air service into or near MTW? I was going to fly commercial into Appleton, but I'm not having much luck with rooms. I'm considering MTW. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> Subject: Re: Yak-List: yak-52 flight instruments > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> > > Welcome. Try and make the YPA Manitowoc FAST Clinic and attend Oshkosh with us if you can too. > re: www.yakpilots.org > tc > >


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    Time: 08:14:56 PM PST US
    From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
    Subject: Re: yak-52 flight instruments
    --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> Thanks, I'm still trying to work out the details with my wife, I may fly up stag. I spent too much money getting my LOA last weekend in San Diego. Passed my wingman checkride in an L-29 off the wing of an L-39, hell of an expensive way to get a patch......Hope I'm still qualified to fly with the CJ's and Yaks. Ernie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Yak-List: yak-52 flight instruments > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Gus Fraser" <fraseg@comcast.net> > > Ernie, > I will pack a hammock feel free to swing between my main gear for a couple > of days. Yak 52 main gear makes a great place to hang a hammock :) > > There is a new hotel in Fond Dulac that is trying to get trade for the week. > It is some time since I looked but they had rooms a month ago. If is the > country in suites in Fond Dulac. > > Sorry can't be of more help than that. > > Gus > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ernie > To: yak-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Yak-List: yak-52 flight instruments > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com> > > Does anyone know if there is commercial air service into or near MTW? I was > going to fly commercial into Appleton, but I'm not having much luck with > rooms. I'm considering MTW. > > Ernie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Calloway" <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> > To: <yak-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Yak-List: yak-52 flight instruments > > > > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry Calloway" > <TCalloway@datatechnique.com> > > > > Welcome. Try and make the YPA Manitowoc FAST Clinic and attend Oshkosh > with us if you can too. > > re: www.yakpilots.org > > tc > > > > > >




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