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1. 12:16 AM - Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/12/04 (Raven Hunter Studios)
2. 12:48 AM - pipes (Mark Jefferies YAK UK)
3. 05:46 AM - Ooops (cjpilot710@aol.com)
4. 10:19 AM - (Steve Wieland)
5. 12:43 PM - Re: (Joe Howse)
6. 12:52 PM - Re: Air bottle (AIRRAP@aol.com)
7. 02:17 PM - Re: (Daniel Fortin)
8. 02:23 PM - Shutoff valve CJ-6a (Ronald Wasson)
9. 04:16 PM - Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a (Terry)
10. 04:28 PM - Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a (Ronald Wasson)
11. 05:40 PM - Radial Engine Article (Frank Haertlein)
12. 05:56 PM - Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a (cjpilot710@aol.com)
13. 07:45 PM - Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a (Ronald Wasson)
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| Subject: | Re: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/12/04 |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Raven Hunter Studios" <info@ravenhunter.ca>
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Subject: Yak-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/12/04
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> Total Messages Posted Fri 11/12/04: 5
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> 1. 06:37 AM - Electric DG (D Zeman)
> 2. 01:01 PM - Waycross Clinic and Fly-In Update (Shane Golden)
> 3. 02:56 PM - Re: Waycross Clinic and Fly-In Update (Ernie)
> 4. 10:05 PM - oil line slow failure (Jon Boede)
> 5. 10:05 PM - oil line slow failure (Jon Boede)
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> Time: 06:37:49 AM PST US
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> From: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Electric DG
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: D Zeman <curious_wings@yahoo.com>
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> Hello,
> Does anyone know of an Electric DG manufacturer
> besides RC Allen?
> Regards,
> Zeman
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> Time: 01:01:06 PM PST US
> From: Shane Golden <scgsmg@direcway.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Waycross Clinic and Fly-In Update
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Shane Golden <scgsmg@direcway.com>
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> Just an update on the Waycross Fly-In. We have app. 30 prop aircraft
> signed
> up and 5-6 jets. The FBO manager is working on fuel prices right now.
> They
> will have the aerobatic box set up Fri/Sat for those who want to use it.
>
>
> More later.
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> Shane
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> ________________________________ Message 3
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> Time: 02:56:08 PM PST US
> From: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
> Subject: Re: Yak-List: Waycross Clinic and Fly-In Update
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> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Ernie" <ernest.martinez@oracle.com>
>
> What are the other jet types??
>
> Ernie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shane Golden" <scgsmg@direcway.com>
> Subject: Yak-List: Waycross Clinic and Fly-In Update
>
>
>> --> Yak-List message posted by: Shane Golden <scgsmg@direcway.com>
>>
>> Just an update on the Waycross Fly-In. We have app. 30 prop aircraft
> signed
>> up and 5-6 jets. The FBO manager is working on fuel prices right now.
> They
>> will have the aerobatic box set up Fri/Sat for those who want to use it.
>>
>>
>> More later.
>>
>>
>> Shane
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> Time: 10:05:59 PM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: oil line slow failure
> From: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> I end flights with a bit of oil dripping from the inspection door on my
> CJ-6 (285hp engine) where the oil lines are coupled... just inboard of the
> wing root on the starboard side.
>
> I've inspected the coupling and it seems to be OK... the oil lines
> themselves are wet and there's 1/2 to 3/4" of sludge built up between the
> bulkheads if I feel around with my fingers.
>
> The oil lines are dry as they come through the firewall and then disappear
> down into that cavity.
>
> Is there a failure mode of oil lines where the inner portion of the line
> begins letting oil drip out through the outer casing? More oil seems to
> drip out at the end of flights that involve loops.
>
> I'm only using about 1/2 quart of oil per hour of flight, or so, and I
> haven't seen an increase to correspond with the dripping... it seems minor
> so I don't suspect a cut in the line, just a slow failure.
>
> Jon
>
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> ________________________________ Message 5
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> Time: 10:05:59 PM PST US
> Subject: Yak-List: oil line slow failure
> From: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
>
> I end flights with a bit of oil dripping from the inspection door on my
> CJ-6 (285hp engine) where the oil lines are coupled... just inboard of the
> wing root on the starboard side.
>
> I've inspected the coupling and it seems to be OK... the oil lines
> themselves are wet and there's 1/2 to 3/4" of sludge built up between the
> bulkheads if I feel around with my fingers.
>
> The oil lines are dry as they come through the firewall and then disappear
> down into that cavity.
>
> Is there a failure mode of oil lines where the inner portion of the line
> begins letting oil drip out through the outer casing? More oil seems to
> drip out at the end of flights that involve loops.
>
> I'm only using about 1/2 quart of oil per hour of flight, or so, and I
> haven't seen an increase to correspond with the dripping... it seems minor
> so I don't suspect a cut in the line, just a slow failure.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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--> Yak-List message posted by: Mark Jefferies YAK UK <mark.j@yakuk.com>
Jon.
Its possible your pipes are weeping. Whats the age? I have experiance a "new"
pipe weep after 4 years. The date on the pipe material was 1991 and the
assembly date was 1996 and the failure was 2000. Pipe life should be 10 years
from manufacture and 7.5 years in service. This is for the Russian made pipe.
UK CAA say 6 years in service. Other countries differ and in the USA I belive
you can keep using till it fails, is that right? Its just down to the engineers
experiance to say change or not, in some cases I know that decision is made by
financial constraints.
I said "new" because its not unknown for some a/c suppliers to remove date tags
from pipes, paint the ends and say they are new yet the knolagable know that
the material has a date on it under the anti chaff slieve. One very well know
supplier got caught and lost a lot of business and reputation as a result of
his cost cutting measures!!
BR, mark J
BTW, any reputable supplier will be able to supply new marerial and pressure
test certificates.
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Jon Boede" <jon@email.net>
I end flights with a bit of oil dripping from the inspection door on my
CJ-6 (285hp engine) where the oil lines are coupled... just inboard of the
wing root on the starboard side.
I've inspected the coupling and it seems to be OK... the oil lines
themselves are wet and there's 1/2 to 3/4" of sludge built up between the
bulkheads if I feel around with my fingers.
The oil lines are dry as they come through the firewall and then disappear
down into that cavity.
Is there a failure mode of oil lines where the inner portion of the line
begins letting oil drip out through the outer casing? More oil seems to
drip out at the end of flights that involve loops.
I'm only using about 1/2 quart of oil per hour of flight, or so, and I
haven't seen an increase to correspond with the dripping... it seems minor
so I don't suspect a cut in the line, just a slow failure.
Jon
=====
Best regards, Mark
www.yakuk.com
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JandEFinley@comcast.net, yak-list@matronics.com, davedris@cavtel.net,
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EdrisDee@aol.com, Ckelso17@earthlink.net
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Folks,
Due to some type nut loose on my keyboard, my computers register got screwed
up and my drive had to be reformatted. Hence I've lost a whole lot of my
files etc.
Bear with me while I play catchup.
Drew, would appreciate, you resend me that last e-mail with the newsletter
format.
Jim Goolsby
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--> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
Does anyone have a company that will test the air bottles in Yak-52? Mine are due.
Thanks,
Wheels Wieland Yak-52 N42SW
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List: |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Joe Howse <joeh@shaw.ca>
Some fire extinguisher companies will do the test
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
Subject: Yak-List:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
>
> Does anyone have a company that will test the air bottles in Yak-52? Mine
> are due. Thanks,
> Wheels Wieland Yak-52 N42SW
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List:Air bottle |
--> Yak-List message posted by: AIRRAP@aol.com
Or check out _www.yak-52.net_ (http://www.yak-52.net)
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: e: Yak-List: |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Daniel Fortin" <fougapilot@hotmail.com>
I did the ones for the CJ and the O2 bottles for the Fouga at a dive shop.
Dan
>From: Joe Howse <joeh@shaw.ca>
>Reply-To: yak-list@matronics.com
>To: yak-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Yak-List:
>Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 12:39:30 -0800
>
>--> Yak-List message posted by: Joe Howse <joeh@shaw.ca>
>
>Some fire extinguisher companies will do the test
>
>Joe
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
>To: <yak-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Yak-List:
>
>
> > --> Yak-List message posted by: "Steve Wieland" <wheelstoo@msn.com>
> >
> > Does anyone have a company that will test the air bottles in Yak-52?
>Mine
> > are due. Thanks,
> > Wheels Wieland Yak-52 N42SW
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Shutoff valve CJ-6a |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ronald Wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Just cleaned my shutoff valve of the rust on the the steel cone part of the
valve as it had started to leak. This was a new part put in three years ago.
The old valve was totally corroded and would leak some days then be fine
others. I sure liked no leaks for three years. Has anyone made a new cone
for the valve out of brass or stainless steel and stopped this rust problem.
Which metal would you suggest as I am going to have the machine shop do it.
Air leaks or at least from the valve forward will be a thing of the past on
a CJ.
ron
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| Subject: | Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Terry" <talew@comcast.net>
Ron,
You might check with Doug Sapp. It may be cheaper
to buy a new valve than building a valve part.
Terry Lewis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ronald Wasson" <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Subject: Yak-List: Shutoff valve CJ-6a
> --> Yak-List message posted by: Ronald Wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
>
> Just cleaned my shutoff valve of the rust on the the steel cone part of
> the
> valve as it had started to leak. This was a new part put in three years
> ago.
> The old valve was totally corroded and would leak some days then be fine
> others. I sure liked no leaks for three years. Has anyone made a new cone
> for the valve out of brass or stainless steel and stopped this rust
> problem.
> Which metal would you suggest as I am going to have the machine shop do
> it.
> Air leaks or at least from the valve forward will be a thing of the past
> on
> a CJ.
>
> ron
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ronald Wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
New valve has a steel core that rusts and leaks within a few years. I
cleaned mine and it might be fine for a while. Doug sold it to me three
years ago and is new PRC air force part. I have old one that was removed and
has deep pits. The steel cone is only a very small part of the valve to
reproduce. One piece of 17 piece valve that is mostly aluminum castings. The
piece is a inch long by half inch wide. The steel pits in a circle at the
point of contact with the alum seat and the water from the pump.
Ron
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| Subject: | Radial Engine Article |
--> Yak-List message posted by: "Frank Haertlein" <yak52driver@earthlink.net>
Yakinators
There is an article on radial engines written by Fred Abramson. It seems
like a comprehensive article that I think should be required reading by
anyone who flies radial engines.
Some time ago I included the article on the YAK LINKS page
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/m14p.html
This article was linked some time ago and I have only recently learned
that Fred has passed on. I have no knowledge of Fred or where he stood
within the YAK community.
With all due respect to the departed, I'm hoping that someone here can
provide the list and myself a little history about this man.
Thanks in Advance
Frank Haertlein
YAK-52
N9110M
Think you're good enough to land at this airport? Hehehehe
http://home.earthlink.net/~yak52driver/courchevel.pps
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| Subject: | Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a |
--> Yak-List message posted by: cjpilot710@aol.com
Get in touch with Bill Blackwell out in AZ (623-703-1001). His out fit made
up a stainless steel replacement valve. I've had mine for almost 4 years now.
No problems.
Jim Goolsby
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| Subject: | Re: Shutoff valve CJ-6a |
--> Yak-List message posted by: Ronald Wasson <ronwasson@mindspring.com>
Jim
Thanks I will call
Ron
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