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1. 03:27 AM - Re: Painting... (Jari Kaija)
2. 04:57 AM - Re: bungee vs spring gear (Aaron Gustafson)
3. 05:47 AM - Corvair Firewall (Jaybannist@cs.com)
4. 06:20 AM - Fuel System Improvements & NPT vs AN sizes...? (PatrickW)
5. 06:50 AM - Re: Floats on CH701 (billmileski)
6. 07:06 AM - Re: Compass Errors (billmileski)
7. 07:11 AM - Re: Fw: CorvAircraft> I am thinking about a partnership. (ashontz)
8. 07:39 AM - Re: Floats on CH701 (Avidmagnum)
9. 08:08 AM - Sun/Fun (Jon Croke)
10. 08:10 AM - Re: Fuel System Improvements & NPT vs AN sizes...? (Bryan Martin)
11. 08:31 AM - Re: Sun/Fun (Jon Croke)
12. 08:42 AM - Re: Sun/Fun (& CH750) (Peter Chapman)
13. 08:43 AM - Re: Sun/Fun (ZodieRocket)
14. 09:04 AM - Re: What's in the Controls Kit...? (Gig Giacona)
15. 09:35 AM - Re: Sun/Fun (& CH750) (Jon Croke)
16. 10:15 AM - Re: Re: Floats on CH701 (nyterminat@aol.com)
17. 10:45 AM - Re: What's in the Controls Kit...? (Tim Juhl)
18. 11:10 AM - Re: What's in the Controls Kit...? (PatrickW)
19. 11:28 AM - Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority (Tim Juhl)
20. 11:52 AM - Re: Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority (Bryan Martin)
21. 12:07 PM - Re: Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority (george may)
22. 12:19 PM - Re: Painting... (Roger Venables)
23. 01:28 PM - Re:Gear Position vs Elevator authority (MaxNr@aol.com)
24. 01:49 PM - Re: Re:Gear Position vs Elevator authority (george may)
25. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority (Juan Vega)
26. 02:22 PM - Making rudder nose rib... am I stupid? (Bruno M.)
27. 03:28 PM - Re: Corvair Firewall (Bill Naumuk)
28. 03:39 PM - Re: Corvair Firewall (Jaybannist@cs.com)
29. 04:31 PM - CH620 (ashontz)
30. 04:52 PM - Re: Corvair Firewall (Craig Payne)
31. 06:30 PM - Re: Corvair Firewall (Robin Bellach)
32. 06:45 PM - Re: Corvair Firewall (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
33. 07:20 PM - Info on the Dynon (Afterfxllc@aol.com)
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> I am painting my 701 project. I'm using Acrylic Enamel. We thoroughly
Good job! I'm also starting to paint fuselage as soon as average
temperature rises over 15 degrees celsius. I'm using PGP
Delfleet.
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_rudder/DSC03870.JPG
http://www.project-ch701.net/ch701_elevator/DSC03872.JPG
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| Subject: | Re: bungee vs spring gear |
I have some info I'll provide off list about my Grove gear install.
Aaron do not archive agustafson@chartermi.net
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From: 601corvair
To: Zenith list
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:04 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: bungee vs spring gear
I have a question about gear. We haven HDS project and have a choice
as to gear. Spring or Bungee. What are the pro and cons of each?
thanks phill
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| Subject: | Corvair Firewall |
To XL Corvair builders:
I need to start mounting "stuff" on my firewall. I am trying to follow WW recommendations,
but since I don't have anything from WW, I am kind of working in
the dark, mostly from photos. I have attached a pdf drawing of what I am planning.
I would greatly appreciate any input, especially from those of you that
have completed your FWF.
Thanks in advance,
Jay in Dallas
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| Subject: | Fuel System Improvements & NPT vs AN sizes...? |
I'd like to go with all AN fittings and braided stainless steel fuel lines, instead
of the supplied barbs, hose clamps, and rubber lines.
Question: what AN sizes match what NPT sizes...?
For example, starting at the 601XL wing tank, there is a "finger screen" (part
number DX2021) that is female threaded, into which a "1/4 NPT nipple coupler"
(part number F-125-4B) is threaded. Which AN fitting would replace the "1/4 NPT
nipple coupler".
I bet somebody on this list has already done this. Does anyone have a parts list
so all of this can be ordered at once?
Thanks,
Patrick
601XL/Corvair
Tail Done.
Wings 50%
Engine 50%
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| Subject: | Re: Floats on CH701 |
I have often wondered about the "floats develop lift that counters their extra
weight" thing. Often when I see a 701 float installation, it looks like they
are at a negative incidence with respect to the wing, so that when planing in
proper trim, the wing is at some modest positive angle of attack for liftoff.
In the oldest 701 installations it looks like the setup put the floats in a significant
down angle (negative angle of attack) in flight, which looked to be
developing negative lift if anything. Anyone else have thoughts?
Bill Mileski
701 912S 89hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Compass Errors |
I have a cheap non-TSO'd old-style compass on the top of my panel (screwed onto
the top of the glare shield). When installed, it read 15 to 30 degrees off in
all quadrants, and worse, the error varied +/- 5 degrees depending on the fore-aft
position of the control stick. I flew 50 or so hours without doing anything
about it and ignoring it, assuming it was an ornament. Then I planned for
my first significant cross country (up into New Hampshire and VT from CT in
the winter) and decided I needed a backup plan in case the GPS I was way too addicted
to had a problem. Long story short -- I swung the compass while parked
on an airport compass rose, and held the stick at cruise position (top surface
of elevator horizontal) during each adjustment. The compass is only meaningful
in unaccelerated flight anyway. Turned out to be accurate to within a degree
or so, and I have practiced navigating by it, with surprisingly good results.
I think AC43-13-1B recommended running the engine while adjusting, and I did
notice the compass drift a couple degrees after starting the engine at the compass
rose. So give it a shot before assuming like I did that it's too bogus
an installation to get usable results.
Bill Mileski
701 912S 89 hours
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: CorvAircraft> I am thinking about a partnership. |
Please explain?
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Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
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| Subject: | Re: Floats on CH701 |
I have a 701 on Czech 1200A floats. The floats are set at a 3 degree down angle
so that you can more easly rotate off the water. I increased the gross weight
by the difference in the weight of the removed gear and the new weight with
the floats. (About 150 lbs on the 701) My gross is 1250 now. But please note
at full gross it will not peform like a 701 on wheels! There is more lift but
also a lot more drag! That's not to say it's a poor float plane ...it's a very
good float plane but the lighter the better. (Time for me to go on a diet!)
I had to do a lot of modifications to get it to cruse at 95mph (5500RPM) with
a 912s. I often fly it at 80 to save gas.
Tom Schulke
100 + hours on floats (701)
650 + total floats
701 on floats (Czech 1200a)
Rans S-7 on wheels.... have Czech 1200A's on order
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Hi Mark,
You should be home now, I bet.
Long drive home for us but we made it. You must have worked a lot of hours.
Good BBQ and turnout! I got some messages from you on my cell phone at home
... I probably wasnt clear about using that cell while Im on the road... I
use the 'old' one that roams better... sorry! (wasnt ignoring you!)
Let me know:
1) Do you need more $$ to cover BBQ... just let me know.
2) You mentioned that you did not get the Dinner DVD and Controls DVD I sent
couple weeks ago? Maybe it came while you were away? Let me know.
I got to see the CH750 at the factory when picking up my wings...
INCREDIBLE! 701 on steroids! It had a continental bolted to the front...
I guess Roger is doing the building... everything but the wings were on....
Both of us: back to work!
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Improvements & NPT vs AN sizes...? |
Starting on page 111 of the latest Aircraft Spruce catalog, there are
pictures and charts of AN fittings. Or you can go to http://
www.aircraftspruce.com/ and click on the "hardware" link and then the
"AN fittings" link to get to the same information online. I would
highly recommend ordering one of their catalogs, they're free and
contain lots of good information.
NPT fittings are specified by the nominal inside diameter of the pipe
and hose fittings are specified by the inside diameter of the hose.
AN fittings are specified by an "AN" number (AN followed by 3 digits)
to specify the type of fitting, followed by a dash and a number that
specifies the outside diameter of the tube in sixteenths of an inch.
for instance, to go from the 1/4" female NPT on your finger screen to
3/8" OD tubing you would use an AN816-6 fitting. If you were using
flared tubing with that you would use an AN818-6 coupling nut with an
AN819-6 sleeve.
>
> I'd like to go with all AN fittings and braided stainless steel
> fuel lines, instead of the supplied barbs, hose clamps, and rubber
> lines.
>
> Question: what AN sizes match what NPT sizes...?
>
> For example, starting at the 601XL wing tank, there is a "finger
> screen" (part number DX2021) that is female threaded, into which a
> "1/4 NPT nipple coupler" (part number F-125-4B) is threaded. Which
> AN fitting would replace the "1/4 NPT nipple coupler".
>
> I bet somebody on this list has already done this. Does anyone
> have a parts list so all of this can be ordered at once?
>
> Thanks,
>
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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WOW, sorry for THAT mistake! This was meant to go to Mark
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Boy I feel stupid
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Croke" <Jon@joncroke.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Sun/Fun
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> You should be home now, I bet.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun/Fun (& CH750) |
At 11:06 25-04-07, you wrote:
>
>Hi Mark,
>
>You should be home now, I bet.
'We've all done it', but this sounds like person to person email that
got out to a mailing list.
So Jon, if that's the case, maybe as penance you'll have to write
something more to the list to say how things were at Sun 'n' Fun, and
what you saw of the CH 750.
You brought the topics up... :-)
Peter Chapman
Toronto, ON 601 HDS / 912 / C-GZDC
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Well Sometimes we all slip and send a personal message to this list, so
I will make my reply to Jon, public in case someone was curious to the
answers.
I will be giving the final tally on the BBQ later this evening. For now
I have to run off to the wielders and to look at a new hanger.
The BBQ was a success and no Jon you don't need to send me more money,
your donation along with all the others have covered the event, if we
don't count the fact that Rick Roberts went out and bought two new BBQ's
specifically for the event. Once again list I will put out a complete
E-Mail later.
Jon as for the 750, yup you can see it at Zenith, but remember it has
never flown, IT's main mission is able to support the heavier engines
while retaining a similar useful load of the 701. Nevertheless, as in
all things I can't imagine that they will be able to retain the same
EXTREME STOL of the 701, it will likely be a blend between the 701 and
801.
We'll see, there is no guarantee that the 750 will ever become a
production kit aircraft. It is just one plane that has progressed from
the drawing board, like the Gemini. If they are happy then it may move
forward, if not then it may be refined/re-built differently or shelved,
who knows?
I go the DVD's upon my return home from Sun-N-Fun. I still laugh my ass
off on the Oshkosh dinner one. I will review the controls DVD this
weekend in the shop.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Croke
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Sun/Fun
Hi Mark,
You should be home now, I bet.
Long drive home for us but we made it. You must have worked a lot of
hours.
Good BBQ and turnout! I got some messages from you on my cell phone at
home
... I probably wasnt clear about using that cell while Im on the road...
I
use the 'old' one that roams better... sorry! (wasnt ignoring you!)
Let me know:
1) Do you need more $$ to cover BBQ... just let me know.
2) You mentioned that you did not get the Dinner DVD and Controls DVD I
sent
couple weeks ago? Maybe it came while you were away? Let me know.
I got to see the CH750 at the factory when picking up my wings...
INCREDIBLE! 701 on steroids! It had a continental bolted to the
front...
I guess Roger is doing the building... everything but the wings were
on....
Both of us: back to work!
5:43 PM
5:43 PM
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| Subject: | Re: What's in the Controls Kit...? |
I can't remember everything in the controll kit but I do remember that I ordered
it at the same time as the fuselage after I had completed the wings. You do
need during the fuselage construction.
Plus, if you order it at the same time as the fuselage you will save probably $30-
$40 in shipping.
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W.R. "Gig" Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: Sun/Fun (& CH750) |
>
> So Jon, if that's the case, maybe as penance you'll have to write
> something more to the list to say how things were at Sun 'n' Fun, and what
> you saw of the CH 750.
>
Hey Peter and all...
I bet they never let me in the back room of Zenith after that last email..
;) All of the execs were at the show, and I was alone with the office staff
picking up parts, so I didnt get any particulars about the plane other than
what Mark just wrote about it...
Spent just 2 days at Sun n Fun... drove down from Wisconsin and spent the
rest of the time at the beach down there... but it was fun to walk around as
usual... I noticed that Kitfox and Sonex vendors were absent.... my
impression is that the vendor participation may be down... and I really MISS
the full color MAP of the grounds they use to hand out, now replaced by a
black and white newsprint version. And, the EAA had a flyer handout when
registering that said in the past they use to have a small gift for members
in their booth, but THIS year no gift as all of your money is going to the
EAA instead to perform their mission... hmm....
What impressed me the most was how many small aircraft have those nifty
glass panels in them now... and vendors have them all lit up on display...
amazing how a few years can change things so fast. And I always stop by the
big metal buildings to pick up new catalogs... got one from AC Spruce... and
Wicks only had LAST years out there... so it was a little lighter carrying
my 'XM satellite' bag around! Dont forget to get a free copy of Trade a
Plane.... It was fun to watch the 701 take off from the UL strip.. Zenith
did have another booth in the UL area! Weather was excellent. Very nice
seeing everyone at the BBQ.. Easy to recognize metal plane builders by the
scars and cuts in their fingers from pre-deburred aluminum edges.. You can
almost tell from looking into someone's eyes whether they are still building
OR are finished and flying..... those that havent started the build seem to
have the same look as those that are finished and flying....
And thats the extent of my story and Im sticking to it...!
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| Subject: | Re: Floats on CH701 |
Tom,
Ok let=C2=B4s hear about the mods to get your cruise up.
Bob Spudis
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(Time for me to go on a diet!) I had
to do a lot of modifications to get it to cruse at 95mph (5500RPM) with a 91
2s.
I often fly it at 80 to save gas.
Tom Schulke
100 + hours on floats (701)
650 + total floats
701 on floats (Czech 1200a)
Rans S-7 on wheels.... have Czech 1200A's on order
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| Subject: | Re: What's in the Controls Kit...? |
Check the online parts database - http://www.zenithair.com/kit/601/controls/controls.html
Tim
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Champ L16A flying
Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
Working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: What's in the Controls Kit...? |
Great - that's what I needed to know.
The online database tells me what's in the component kit, and I'll order it at
the same time I order the fuselage and save some $.
Thanks!
- Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority |
For those with flight experience in an XL - with the Flat back gear, is there a
significant difference in takeoff and landing performance when you have have
both seats occupied compared to flying solo?
Tim
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Zodiac XL - Jabiru 3300A
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority |
With both seats full the CG is a bit farther aft and it's a little
bit easier to rotate and pitch authority increases some. Considering
that adding a "standard sized" passenger will increase takeoff weight
by about 15%, you should expect a significant difference in takeoff
roll and climb rate.
On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Tim Juhl wrote:
>
> For those with flight experience in an XL - with the Flat back
> gear, is there a significant difference in takeoff and landing
> performance when you have have both seats occupied compared to
> flying solo?
>
> Tim
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N61BM, CH 601 XL,
RAM Subaru, Stratus redrive.
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority |
"is there a significant difference in takeoff and landing performance when
you have have both seats occupied compared to flying solo?"
Tim--
I do not see or feel any difference solo or loaded to gross, other than
dropping faster in altitude as would be expected. I still have to pull the
plane off the runway and as soon as the mains touch on landing the nose
comes down. By the use of flaps and a little power you can slow the plane
down such that when the nose gear does come down the impact is rather light.
Of course this iswith the use of a Rotax.
George May
601XL 912s---67 hours
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Tommy
Looks Good! I am nearly ready to paint my 701 and interested in knowing
more.
Can you give details on what you used to prep and prime?
Appreciate it
Roger
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tommy Walker
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 5:46 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Painting...
Listers,
I am painting my 701 project. I'm using Acrylic Enamel. We thoroughly
cleaned and prepped everything and then applied primer, tack coat, second
coat, then a 50/50 enamel-thinner mist which left a very good finish as
evidenced by the attached photo.
Thanks to Larry Martin for his referral to this paint. I think I will like
it very well.
I was lucky to meet several of you at SNF and enjoyed my trip down this
year.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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| Subject: | Re:Gear Position vs Elevator authority |
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The question that comes to mind if you have difficulty holding the nose off
is: " What is the actual computed CG when landing?" Is it near the fwd limit?
It must be. CG can be brought under control by moving the battery or adding
ballast in the tail. When solo, I carried 50 lb. of sand bags in the baggage
compartment of my Beech Musketeer. Gave it a real personality change. Somebody
told me years ago that after you locate the ready for flight CG, drop a plum bob.
Then swing it aft about ten (no more than fifteen) degrees and that's where
the MLG axle should be. Go the other way for tailwheels. You really have to
locate the CG in its "3D" position. It will be some distance up from the belly
into the interior of the A/C. This is called a "wetted line" or "water line"
(W/L on the drawings). Not practical to do without some approximation.
A friend of mine who is a retired Marine used to instruct on T-34C's at the
Navy Primary Flight school at nearby NAS Whiting Field. He described a
technique that was used to land real short. It was likely not in the syllabus.
When in
the flare or even prior, apply full nose down trim. The tab goes up. It
augments the full up elevator and gives you more authority and a shorter, slower
landing. Control pressure is manageable at slow speed. I'm sure that it is not
an approved NATOPS maneuver, but just something the manual writers never
thought of. But then again, there are not supposed to be tire marks on the top
of
water tanks on the downwind leg of various Navy fields in the Pensacola area
either.
Bob
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| Subject: | Re:Gear Position vs Elevator authority |
do not archive
My CG is actually more reaward than I'd like, so I do not believe it is just
a matter of CG location. I believe it is a function of the landing gear
placement and angle of attack of the wing.
George May
601XL 912s--67 hours
>From: MaxNr@aol.com
>To: Zenith-List@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re:Gear Position vs Elevator authority
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:27:54 EDT
>
>Do not archive
>The question that comes to mind if you have difficulty holding the nose off
>is: " What is the actual computed CG when landing?" Is it near the fwd
>limit?
>It must be. CG can be brought under control by moving the battery or adding
>ballast in the tail. When solo, I carried 50 lb. of sand bags in the
>baggage
>compartment of my Beech Musketeer. Gave it a real personality change.
>Somebody
>told me years ago that after you locate the ready for flight CG, drop a
>plum bob.
>Then swing it aft about ten (no more than fifteen) degrees and that's where
>the MLG axle should be. Go the other way for tailwheels. You really have to
>locate the CG in its "3D" position. It will be some distance up from the
>belly
>into the interior of the A/C. This is called a "wetted line" or "water
>line"
>(W/L on the drawings). Not practical to do without some approximation.
>A friend of mine who is a retired Marine used to instruct on T-34C's at the
>Navy Primary Flight school at nearby NAS Whiting Field. He described a
>technique that was used to land real short. It was likely not in the
>syllabus. When in
>the flare or even prior, apply full nose down trim. The tab goes up. It
>augments the full up elevator and gives you more authority and a shorter,
>slower
>landing. Control pressure is manageable at slow speed. I'm sure that it is
>not
>an approved NATOPS maneuver, but just something the manual writers never
>thought of. But then again, there are not supposed to be tire marks on the
>top of
>water tanks on the downwind leg of various Navy fields in the Pensacola
>area
>either.
>
>Bob
>601XL/Lyc Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority |
Obviously YES, the plane with one body is 220 lbs (approx) lighter, big difference.Longer
landing roll longer take off roll, that is why there is a weight limit.
They typically have two sets of numbers when quoting performance, two person
and one person.
I am sure someone on this web will say the other wise, just think with common sense.two
people are heavier than one, thus more mass to push around.
Juan
-----Original Message-----
>From: george may <gfmjr_20@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Sent: Apr 25, 2007 3:06 PM
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Gear Position vs Elevator authority
>
>
>
>"is there a significant difference in takeoff and landing performance when
>you have have both seats occupied compared to flying solo?"
>
>Tim--
> I do not see or feel any difference solo or loaded to gross, other than
>dropping faster in altitude as would be expected. I still have to pull the
>plane off the runway and as soon as the mains touch on landing the nose
>comes down. By the use of flaps and a little power you can slow the plane
>down such that when the nose gear does come down the impact is rather light.
>Of course this iswith the use of a Rotax.
>
>George May
>601XL 912s---67 hours
>
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| Subject: | Making rudder nose rib... am I stupid? |
Hi all,
watching the projects of the 701, the rudder nose and tip ribs are 60 open
all around the tip to the first crimp location. right?
I took a look to several photos about these two parts forming blocks and
everybody made them sanded at 90.
Also on the "Scratch building basics" DVD they did the same.
Today i tried to make the rudder nose rib with this 60 angle on tip (in a
very professional way! :) )
http://www.shortcutto701.com/rudder/IMG_2020.jpg
Do you think it's a good thing or can it be omitted?
Here some shots. A crimp location will be made in the middle of changing
angle 60 / 90 and after i'm going to hang it shapely with sand paper.
http://www.shortcutto701.com/rudder/IMG_2018.jpg
http://www.shortcutto701.com/rudder/IMG_2030.jpg
http://www.shortcutto701.com/rudder/IMG_2039.jpg
I look forward for your opinions!
Yes of course! I always work just with underwear...
http://www.shortcutto701.com/rudder/IMG_1979.jpg
Thanks
Bruno
CH701 - Italy
www.shortcutto701.com
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Firewall |
Jay-
Bless you, my son! Everyone, keep this string going!!
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair Firewall
> To XL Corvair builders:
>
> I need to start mounting "stuff" on my firewall. I am trying to follow WW
> recommendations, but since I don't have anything from WW, I am kind of
> working in the dark, mostly from photos. I have attached a pdf drawing of
> what I am planning. I would greatly appreciate any input, especially from
> those of you that have completed your FWF.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jay in Dallas
> Do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Firewall |
Bill,
It's not much of a "string" at this point; one reply does not a string make. In
spite of that, yesterday I fabbed the mounting bracket for the ignition coils
and today I installed them.
Jay in Dallas
Do not archive
"Bill Naumuk" <naumuk@alltel.net> wrote:
>
>Jay-
> Bless you, my son! Everyone, keep this string going!!
>Bill Naumuk
>HDS Fuse/Corvair
>Townville, Pa
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <Jaybannist@cs.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:46 AM
>Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair Firewall
>
>
>> To XL Corvair builders:
>>
>> I need to start mounting "stuff" on my firewall. I am trying to follow WW
>> recommendations, but since I don't have anything from WW, I am kind of
>> working in the dark, mostly from photos. I have attached a pdf drawing of
>> what I am planning. I would greatly appreciate any input, especially from
>> those of you that have completed your FWF.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Jay in Dallas
>> Do not archive
>>
>
>
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I see on the front page that this forum is dedicated to all the Zenith planes including
the CH620. Is anyone building this plane? Were plans ever available.
That would be an interesting bird to build if it's available in plans.
--------
Andy Shontz
CH601XL - Corvair
www.mykitlog.com/ashontz
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109270#109270
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| Subject: | Corvair Firewall |
Jay, I don't know what photos you have but FWIW I have lots of shots of
these 601XL/Corvair installations:
- William's 601XL tail dragger
- Phil Maxson's 601XL
I've got 54 photos totaling 64 MB. I can stick these on a CD and mail it to
you if you want.
Also I assume you've browsed Chris Steiner's and Bill Howerton's sites?
http://homepage.mac.com/csteiner/PhotoAlbum8.html
http://bill.howerton.com/zodiac/engine_page.htm
Some folks apparently have early copies of William's long promised FWF
manual but not me.
-- Craig
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Firewall |
Jay,
Sorry I can't really add anything, but I guess I'm doing essentially as you
are as far as figuring out the firewall layout (going by pictures etc.), as
what I have so far installed and planned to install matches your drawings
perfectly, with only exceptions being probably insignificant variations on
the placement of those items on the cockpit side of firewall. Anyway, it's
nice to know that at least someone else is thinking along the same lines,
and I really appreciate your taking the time to make and show your drawings
because if anyone finds fault with them I will probably have the same
problem.
Do not archve.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Jaybannist@cs.com
> Bill,
> It's not much of a "string" at this point; one reply does not a string
> make. In spite of that, yesterday I fabbed the mounting bracket for the
> ignition coils and today I installed them.
> Jay in Dallas
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair Firewall |
I have a complete FWF finished and can give you any information and
measurements you need. here are some pics.
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| Subject: | Info on the Dynon |
I Was playing with the dynon today and noticed the OAT was in Celsius and
for the life of me can't figure out how to change it Can this be done?
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