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1. 04:54 AM - Re: CH-750 (Chris Lewis)
2. 05:37 AM - CH-750?? (Zed Smith)
3. 06:14 AM - Re: CH-750 (Brady)
4. 07:16 AM - Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... (ricklach)
5. 07:42 AM - A question to Randall H. (ricklach)
6. 07:54 AM - Re: Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... (Dan)
7. 08:15 AM - Re: CH-750 (Chris Lewis)
8. 08:19 AM - Re: A question to Randall H. (Bob Sturgis)
9. 08:34 AM - Re: Re: CH-750 (Iberplanes IGL)
10. 10:39 AM - Re: A question to Randall H. (bcchurch)
11. 11:52 AM - Re: CH-750 (PatrickW)
12. 12:44 PM - Re: CH-750 (Chris Lewis)
13. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... (LarryMcFarland)
14. 12:53 PM - Re: Re: Fuel routing (Phil Owens)
15. 12:56 PM - Re: Outboard elevator hinge plate - 801 (n85ae)
16. 01:07 PM - Re: Re: CH-750 (Iberplanes IGL)
17. 04:12 PM - Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... (ricklach)
18. 04:20 PM - Re: A question to Randall H. (ricklach)
19. 05:38 PM - Unknown part (Elwood140@aol.com)
20. 06:21 PM - Re: Unknown part (John Marzulli)
21. 10:32 PM - Designators for Zenith Aircraft (JohnDRead@aol.com)
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Here are some photos.
Enjoy!
Chris in Seattle
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Chris posted photos of the CH-750. Nice. Plenty of left over panel space!
Anybody know the source of the seat cushions?
Thanks,
Zed
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Sweet!
That's a perfect candidate for the Corvair!
Too Bad I'm already committed to the 701.
Looks like I'm gonna have two airplanes....
The wife is gonna Love this. [Rolling Eyes]
But a man has to do what a man has to do [Laughing]
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Poulsbo, WA
www.magnificentmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... |
This is a very interesting conversation, but what is the factory providing? The
factory is the decider. Can some one please take a look at their kit and provide
that very important piece of information to us. I would if I had a kit but
I do not.
Rick
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| Subject: | A question to Randall H. |
I was buying some Aluminum at the local supplier here in Bakersfield and one piece
of 2 x 3/16 flat stock was labeled 6061-T6511. No one could explain the 6511
call out. After some research I found a Spec. that referred to the tempering
of the metal in a slightly different way that the T6 call out. Every one Ive
asked said that its not an issue. So the question to you is:
Do you know what the difference is between the two call outs? If not thats OK and
thanks for your time.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... |
Hi Rick: See my post from Yesterday. I talked to Zenith Yesterday and they
are providing .093 thickness with square inside corner, Dan.
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Subject: Zenith701801-List: Re: Spar Cap Extrusion...
This is a very interesting conversation, but what is the factory providing?
The factory is the decider. Can some one please take a look at their kit and
provide that very important piece of information to us. I would if I had a
kit but I do not.
Rick
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Checked by AVG.
7:16 PM
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Brady - I'll see you at Arlington.
I specifically attended the open house to see how close I came in my efforts to
upsize the 701 to 110% for space (I'm 6'4" with shoes and 240#), LSA capacity
and to fit the Corvair that I'm building. I did all of this a couple of years
ago and got Chris Heintz's blessing to my mod's.
I'm proud to say that I'm pretty close to what the 750 turned out to be. I really
liked the new panel design after sitting in the cockpit and seeing the difference
it made in forward vision. They also used the 601 firewall to take advantage
of existing hardware for the larger engines on the 601.
I feel pretty good about continuing my scratch-build and will certainly adopt the
new panel and the taller gear when I get there. I'm awfully tempted to buy
that new corner extrusion and pay to ship it to Seattle - we'll see.
Chris in Seattle
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| Subject: | Re: A question to Randall H. |
Rick,=0AGoogle- 6061-t6 vs 6061-t6511 and a lot of info will come up and
a site to ask questions.=0ABobefx=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFro
m: ricklach <rick@ravengear.us>=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com=0ASen
t: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:42:37 AM=0ASubject: Zenith701801-List: A questi
rick@ravengear.us>=0A=0AI was buying some Aluminum at the local supplier he
re in Bakersfield and one piece of 2 x 3/16 flat stock was labeled =936061-
T6511=94. No one could explain the =936511=94 call out. After some research
I found a Spec. that referred to the tempering of the metal in a slightly
different way that the =94T6=94 call out. Every one I=92ve asked said that
it=92s not an issue. So the question to you is:=0A=0ADo you know what the d
ifference is between the two call outs? If not that=92s OK and thanks for y
our time.=0A=0ARick=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://
forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189557#189557=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, L
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Hello there,
On ZAC=B4s website says that this airplane will never be available in kit,
Is
it still true?
http://www.zenithair.com/news/ch750.html
Currently there are no plans for the CH 750 aircraft to be offered as an
aircraft kit or plans (blueprints) for amateur builders. Heintz has stated
that the larger CH 750 aircraft is a new aircraft model, and not a
replacement to the very popular STOL CH
701<http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/index1.html>aircraft - which
can be built from complete kits, component kits or from
plans-only:
Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
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Engine: Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: A question to Randall H. |
Rick,
The "T6" refers to the heat treatment as being solution heat treated and artificially
aged. The -511 is added to specify applicability to extruded rod, bar,
tubes or shapes when stretched after solution heat treatment. If you have rolled
plate and not an extruded bar, the temper designation should be T651, not
T6511.
My ASM Metals Handbook lists the same typical mechanical properties for both 6061-T6
and 6061-T651. Further, ASTM B221 (spec for extruded aluminum bars, rods,
etc) calls out the same mechanical property limits for 6061-T6, T651 and T6511.
Hope that helps...
Regards,
Ben
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Ben Church
CH801
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It was the 701 that first caught my eye when I decided to build an airplane.
But I'm a tall guy, and I figured that I had better find one to sit in before making
a commitment. So when I sat in a 701 at OSH a few years ago, it was obvious
that it just wasn't meant to be... [Crying or Very sad]
I looked over to the 601 that was sitting a few feet away. To make a long story
short, I've now got a nearly complete 601 in my garage... :D
But had it been a 750 sitting there when I was first looking at an airplane to
build, things may have been different.
- Pat
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601XL/Corvair
N63PZ (reserved)
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Alberto - The plane will definitely be available as a kit according to Caleb at
Zenith - who is working the design. I could not get a firm answer on plans or
even the timing of kit production.
They are working feverishly to get the production unit together for Osh Kosh and
will then work on the documentation and production schedule. My guess is that
they'll be flooded with orders at Osh Kosh, so you may want to see if they have
a waiting list for kit buyers right now.
If you're a tall guy and are on the fence about the 701, it'll be worth the wait.
I talked to a guy who's selling his 701 (complete from FW back) because he
is a Corvair fan and likes the fit better.
It will certainly be more expensive than the 701 as it is much more complete production-wise,
is larger and has .020" skins.
Chris in Seattle
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| Subject: | Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... |
Rick,
1 x 1 x 1/8th extruded structural aluminum angle, 6061-t6, with a proper
radius is available from Aircraft Spruce as p/n 03-48000. If the
dimensions suit you, or if you need something that can be resized, the
prices quoted are reasonable (if Zenith is not providing the angle with
the radius).
Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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ricklach wrote:
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> This is a very interesting conversation, but what is the factory providing? The
factory is the decider. Can some one please take a look at their kit and provide
that very important piece of information to us. I would if I had a kit but
I do not.
>
> Rick
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189553#189553
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel routing |
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| Subject: | Re: Outboard elevator hinge plate - 801 |
A word of caution, the AN bolts that they welded for the original hinge
pins have a tensile strength of 125,000 psi, stainless steel is often
around 75 ksi, which = 75,000 psi. So even with the larger pins you may
actually have ended up with weaker hinges. Do you know specifically
which alloy stainless you used?
3/16 AN bolts at 125,000 = 10818 lb.s
1/4 SS at 75,000 = 9390 lb.s
This is not in shear, but I think it illustrates the point.
Regards,
Jeff
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Thanks Chris, that=B4s good news. As soon as I get my XL finished I=B4ll pl
ace
and order for the CH750, I was about to order the tail kit for a 701, so I
better stop and wait until the new kit comes out.
Have fun!
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Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
2008/6/24 Chris Lewis <christopherlewis@earthlink.net>:
> christopherlewis@earthlink.net>
>
> Alberto - The plane will definitely be available as a kit according to
> Caleb at Zenith - who is working the design. I could not get a firm answe
r
> on plans or even the timing of kit production.
>
> They are working feverishly to get the production unit together for Osh
> Kosh and will then work on the documentation and production schedule. My
> guess is that they'll be flooded with orders at Osh Kosh, so you may want
to
> see if they have a waiting list for kit buyers right now.
>
> If you're a tall guy and are on the fence about the 701, it'll be worth t
he
> wait. I talked to a guy who's selling his 701 (complete from FW back)
> because he is a Corvair fan and likes the fit better.
>
> It will certainly be more expensive than the 701 as it is much more
> complete production-wise, is larger and has .020" skins.
>
> Chris in Seattle
>
> --------
> 701 Scratch Builder
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189612#189612
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Alberto Martin
www.iberplanes.es
Igualada - Barcelona - Spain
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Zodiac 601 XL Builder
Serial: 6-7011
Tail Kit: Finished
Wings: Not Started
Fuselage: Ordered
Engine: Jabiru 3300
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| Subject: | Re: Spar Cap Extrusion... |
Thank You both Dan and Larry for your information.
Rick
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| Subject: | Re: A question to Randall H. |
Thanks everyone for providing me with some additional conversation about these
call outs.
Rick
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To all: I have found an item marked '7E-9 door' that doesn't show up on any
of my drawings. The part is 215 X 320mm, .025-in thick. Does anyone have
an idea as to what it may be?
Larry Wood
(N701LW reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Unknown part |
Access door for the electric trim tab motor?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
John Marzulli
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
http://www.GenevieveMarzulli.org/
http://www.JohnMarzulli.net/
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:38 PM, <Elwood140@aol.com> wrote:
> To all: I have found an item marked '7E-9 door' that doesn't show up on
> any of my drawings. The part is 215 X 320mm, .025-in thick. Does anyone
> have an idea as to what it may be?
>
> Larry Wood
> (N701LW reserved)
>
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> Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars<http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007>
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| Subject: | Designators for Zenith Aircraft |
All;
Recently there was some discussion as to how to announce a Zenith CH701
to a controller. I went to the ICAO website and this is what I found for the
CH701.
ZENAIR CH-701 Stol CH70
John Read
Phone: 303-648-3261
Fax: 303-648-3262
Cell: 719-494-4567
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