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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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 Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: Scam artist |
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I would like to warn everyone about a man named TOM HENDERSON his email is admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com) he is selling snake oil and we all need to spread this to every list we are on. He claims to be advertising kits for the 601xl for 5,500.00 and then never delivers after he gets your money. I was asked by one person that wanted to build a 601 what I thought about this kit and price and I told him I had a gut feeling he was going to rip him off and sure enough he did. I am attaching his email he sent me regarding the 15 gal wing tanks he ordered and never received. He is now saying he will give 600.00 for each referral you send his way.... isn't that generous???? I am contacting the attorney general Monday morning and turn this ass hole in. I have found that the aviation community is comprised of mainly honest people and this guy really cuts deep into that. If anyone else has done business with this man please send me any info you can so I can take this guy out of business.
I was told that when he first started out he did deliver some parts but after he lost his job he quit delivering and kept the money.
I think a lot of people are afraid to speak out because they have a fear of never getting their parts but I have a news flash for those that have ordered parts (you never will) so send me a email off list so we can keep aviation honest.
Here are some emails I sent him and he sent to me.
FROM ME Tom,
I think it has been long enough. I will expect either a check from you or the 15 gal. tanks, The builder (name with held) ordered these over 3 months ago. I also received another email you had sent out offering 600 for each referral. You need to make this right or I will be forced to take further action to insure you don't rip off any other builders. It is the 14th of Nov. I will expect the check or tanks by the 16th.
Good day
Jeff Garrett
297 Smith Ln.
Louisville, Ky. 40229
502-644-8123
REPLY
Sorry about that Jeff, I got involved in finishing up some other things and got behind. I'll get the tanks right out to you. I have several due back from welding Friday, which I will get right out to you. Thanks for the reminder.
I'll talk to you soon with tracking numbers.
No Call again
Next email
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry to have caused a problem with your build schedule. I thought I had gotten the tanks headed your direction two months ago, and didn't give it any thought since I hadn't heard anything to the contrary. I let things get way to busy a month ago, but they're finally to a normal pace again.
I will definitely get your tanks out for you. I'm picking up from the welder tomorrow afternoon, and I'll give you a call shortly after that.
Talk to you tomorrow,
Latest scam.. From: Thomas Anderson (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)
To: With (tgpeters001(at)comcast.net) held
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: 601 XL Airframe
No problem (With held). If you decide to look into it in the future, drop me a line. If you have a friend or know of someone who may be interested, I'm offering $600 to anyone referring an eventual buyer. Might be a good way to pick up some extra fun money (Read: A few months of Avgas!). J
Thanks for the return email!
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bootless(at)earthlink.net
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: Scam artist |
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Hi Jeff,
Interesting – but is his name Tom Henderson (top of email) or Anderson (his quoted email towards the bottom). I’m just asking because I know two Tom Hendersons in the aviation community (one or both is a Beech owner, though, however the grammar goes).
Thanks, Cory
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 7:54 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Scam artist
I would like to warn everyone about a man named TOM HENDERSON his email is admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com) he is selling snake oil and we all need to spread this to every list we are on. He claims to be advertising kits for the 601xl for 5,500.00 and then never delivers after he gets your money. I was asked by one person that wanted to build a 601 what I thought about this kit and price and I told him I had a gut feeling he was going to rip him off and sure enough he did. I am attaching his email he sent me regarding the 15 gal wing tanks he ordered and never received. He is now saying he will give 600.00 for each referral you send his way.... isn't that generous???? I am contacting the attorney general Monday morning and turn this ass hole in. I have found that the aviation community is comprised of mainly honest people and this guy really cuts deep into that. If anyone else has done business with this man please send me any info you can so I can take this guy out of business.
I was told that when he first started out he did deliver some parts but after he lost his job he quit delivering and kept the money.
I think a lot of people are afraid to speak out because they have a fear of never getting their parts but I have a news flash for those that have ordered parts (you never will) so send me a email off list so we can keep aviation honest.
Here are some emails I sent him and he sent to me.
FROM ME
Tom,
I think it has been long enough. I will expect either a check from you or the 15 gal. tanks, The builder (name with held) ordered these over 3 months ago. I also received another email you had sent out offering 600 for each referral. You need to make this right or I will be forced to take further action to insure you don't rip off any other builders. It is the 14th of Nov. I will expect the check or tanks by the 16th.
Good day
Jeff Garrett
297 Smith Ln.
Louisville, Ky. 40229
502-644-8123
REPLY
Sorry about that Jeff, I got involved in finishing up some other things and got behind. I'll get the tanks right out to you. I have several due back from welding Friday, which I will get right out to you. Thanks for the reminder.
I'll talk to you soon with tracking numbers.
No Call again
Next email
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry to have caused a problem with your build schedule. I thought I had gotten the tanks headed your direction two months ago, and didn't give it any thought since I hadn't heard anything to the contrary. I let things get way to busy a month ago, but they're finally to a normal pace again.
I will definitely get your tanks out for you. I'm picking up from the welder tomorrow afternoon, and I'll give you a call shortly after that.
Talk to you tomorrow,
Latest scam..
From: Thomas Anderson (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)
To:With (tgpeters001(at)comcast.net) held
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: 601 XL Airframe
No problem (With held). If you decide to look into it in the future, drop me a line. If you have a friend or know of someone who may be interested, I'm offering $600 to anyone referring an eventual buyer. Might be a good way to pick up some extra fun money (Read: A few months of Avgas!). J
Thanks for the return email!
See what's new at AOL.com and http://www.matronics.com/cDralle, List Admin. Navigator to Archive much much href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron--> http://forums.matronics.com ===========
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bootless(at)earthlink.net
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: Scam artist |
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Hi Jeff,
Interesting – but is his name Tom Henderson (top of email) or Anderson (his quoted email towards the bottom). I’m just asking because I know two Tom Hendersons in the aviation community (one or both is a Beech owner, though, however the grammar goes).
Thanks, Cory
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 7:54 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Scam artist
I would like to warn everyone about a man named TOM HENDERSON his email is admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com) he is selling snake oil and we all need to spread this to every list we are on. He claims to be advertising kits for the 601xl for 5,500.00 and then never delivers after he gets your money. I was asked by one person that wanted to build a 601 what I thought about this kit and price and I told him I had a gut feeling he was going to rip him off and sure enough he did. I am attaching his email he sent me regarding the 15 gal wing tanks he ordered and never received. He is now saying he will give 600.00 for each referral you send his way.... isn't that generous???? I am contacting the attorney general Monday morning and turn this ass hole in. I have found that the aviation community is comprised of mainly honest people and this guy really cuts deep into that. If anyone else has done business with this man please send me any info you can so I can take this guy out of business.
I was told that when he first started out he did deliver some parts but after he lost his job he quit delivering and kept the money.
I think a lot of people are afraid to speak out because they have a fear of never getting their parts but I have a news flash for those that have ordered parts (you never will) so send me a email off list so we can keep aviation honest.
Here are some emails I sent him and he sent to me.
FROM ME
Tom,
I think it has been long enough. I will expect either a check from you or the 15 gal. tanks, The builder (name with held) ordered these over 3 months ago. I also received another email you had sent out offering 600 for each referral. You need to make this right or I will be forced to take further action to insure you don't rip off any other builders. It is the 14th of Nov. I will expect the check or tanks by the 16th.
Good day
Jeff Garrett
297 Smith Ln.
Louisville, Ky. 40229
502-644-8123
REPLY
Sorry about that Jeff, I got involved in finishing up some other things and got behind. I'll get the tanks right out to you. I have several due back from welding Friday, which I will get right out to you. Thanks for the reminder.
I'll talk to you soon with tracking numbers.
No Call again
Next email
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry to have caused a problem with your build schedule. I thought I had gotten the tanks headed your direction two months ago, and didn't give it any thought since I hadn't heard anything to the contrary. I let things get way to busy a month ago, but they're finally to a normal pace again.
I will definitely get your tanks out for you. I'm picking up from the welder tomorrow afternoon, and I'll give you a call shortly after that.
Talk to you tomorrow,
Latest scam..
From: Thomas Anderson (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)
To:With (tgpeters001(at)comcast.net) held
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: 601 XL Airframe
No problem (With held). If you decide to look into it in the future, drop me a line. If you have a friend or know of someone who may be interested, I'm offering $600 to anyone referring an eventual buyer. Might be a good way to pick up some extra fun money (Read: A few months of Avgas!). J
Thanks for the return email!
See what's new at AOL.com and http://www.matronics.com/cDralle, List Admin. Navigator to Archive much much href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith-List">http://www.matron--> http://forums.matronics.com ===========
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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:00 am Post subject: Scam artist |
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That was a email that was forwarded to me but his name is Tom Henderson but I don't think this guy has a plane.
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Hi Jeff,
Interesting – but is his name Tom Henderson (top of email) or Anderson (his quoted email towards the bottom). I’m just asking because I know two Tom Hendersons in the aviation community (one or both is a Beech owner, though, however the grammar goes).
Thanks, Cory
From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 7:54 PM
To: zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Scam artist
I would like to warn everyone about a man named TOM HENDERSON his email is admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com) he is selling snake oil and we all need to spread this to every list we are on. He claims to be advertising kits for the 601xl for 5,500.00 and then never delivers after he gets your money. I was asked by one person that wanted to build a 601 what I thought about this kit and price and I told him I had a gut feeling he was going to rip him off and sure enough he did. I am attaching his email he sent me regarding the 15 gal wing tanks he ordered and never received. He is now saying he will give 600.00 for each referral you send his way.... isn't that generous???? I am contacting the attorney general Monday morning and turn this ass hole in. I have found that the aviation community is comprised of mainly honest people and this guy really cuts deep into that. If anyone else has done business with this man please send me any info you can so I can take this guy out of business.
I was told that when he first started out he did deliver some parts but after he lost his job he quit delivering and kept the money.
I think a lot of people are afraid to speak out because they have a fear of never getting their parts but I have a news flash for those that have ordered parts (you never will) so send me a email off list so we can keep aviation honest.
Here are some emails I sent him and he sent to me.
FROM ME
Tom,
I think it has been long enough. I will expect either a check from you or the 15 gal. tanks, The builder (name with held) ordered these over 3 months ago. I also received another email you had sent out offering 600 for each referral. You need to make this right or I will be forced to take further action to insure you don't rip off any other builders. It is the 14th of Nov. I will expect the check or tanks by the 16th.
Good day
Jeff Garrett
297 Smith Ln.
Louisville, Ky. 40229
502-644-8123
REPLY
Sorry about that Jeff, I got involved in finishing up some other things and got behind. I'll get the tanks right out to you. I have several due back from welding Friday, which I will get right out to you. Thanks for the reminder.
I'll talk to you soon with tracking numbers.
No Call again
Next email
Hi Jeff, Thanks for the reply. I'm sorry to have caused a problem with your build schedule. I thought I had gotten the tanks headed your direction two months ago, and didn't give it any thought since I hadn't heard anything to the contrary. I let things get way to busy a month ago, but they're finally to a normal pace again.
I will definitely get your tanks out for you. I'm picking up from the welder tomorrow afternoon, and I'll give you a call shortly after that.
Talk to you tomorrow,
Latest scam..
From: Thomas Anderson (admin(at)arachnidrobotics.com)
To:With (tgpeters001(at)comcast.net) held
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:24 PM
Subject: RE: 601 XL Airframe
No problem (With held). If you decide to look into it in the future, drop me a line. If you have a friend or know of someone who may be interested, I'm offering $600 to anyone referring an eventual buyer. Might be a good way to pick up some extra fun money (Read: A few months of Avgas!). J
Thanks for the return email!
See what's new at AOL.com and http://www.matronics.com/cDralle, List Admin. Navigator to
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Gig Giacona
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| Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Scam artist |
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I hate that anyone would get ripped off but what do you expect. If you look at the web site there are a total of 5 pictures of an uncompleted tail section. Why would anyone send this guy money for kit parts?
This is what happens when you don't go to the soruce.
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Despraci
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Scam artist |
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Just for everybody's information. I also placed an order with Tom. It also has been delayed for a considerable amount of time. I did make an effort to try and get in direct contact with him and verify that he does indeed exist.
Since I don't live anywhere close to Oregon I had to enlist the help of the local police department. I can assure anybody that has an order in with Mr Henderson, he did not take your money and run.
I probably went a little overboard. But after 2 months of very little contact I was getting worried myself, not only for myself, but the account holder whom I wired the money too. An officer stopped by his residence and confirmed that he is working on the order unfortunately got behind due to an illness in his family.
The parts I did get from Tom before things got delayed do look good and as described. I am sure that the rest will look just the same. He seems to take pride in his work. I definitely think he needs to work on the communication a little more, but I think in time he could prove himself as a quality provider and alternative source for parts.
And I'm still willing to give him the chance to make everything right. I know other leading authorities in this experimental industry that take some times twice as long to send parts, and yet are still looked upon as the only acceptable supplier.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject: Scam artist |
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Well I can tell you now that the local police won't do anything first of all but after contacting the internet fraud department they sure were interested. I have a long list of people that have been ripped of by this scum bag and Tom should know the wheels are in motion and it is just a matter of time.
And Tom because I know you read this list this is for you.... I invite your law suite for slander, I don't make idol threats I do what I say.
I also don't give this story much credit since you didn't sign your name to it and I know for a fact to many others have been ripped off to believe you are the one person that got your parts.
I would also like to apologize to the list for this rant but if other builders weren't being ripped off I wouldn't post it here. If you don't think it should be here just delete it when you see it but I now know from talking to others it does have a place here like it or not.
Jeff
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Just for everybody's information. I also placed an order with Tom. It also has been delayed for a considerable amount of time. I did make an effort to try and get in direct contact with him and verify that he does indeed exist.
Since I don't live anywhere close to Oregon I had to enlist the help of the local police department. I can assure anybody that has an order in with Mr Henderson, he did not take your money and run.
I probably went a little overboard. But after 2 months of very little contact I was getting worried myself, not only for myself, but the account holder whom I wired the money too. An officer stopped by his residence and confirmed that he is working on the order unfortunately got behind due to an illness in his family.
The parts I did get from Tom before things got delayed do look good and as described. I am sure that the rest will look just the same. He seems to take pride in his work. I definitely think he needs to work on the communication a little more, but I think in time he could prove himself as a quality provider and alternative source for parts.
And I'm still willing to give him the chance to make everything right. I know other leading authorities in this experimental industry that take some times twice as long to send parts, and yet are still looked upon as the only acceptable supplier.
Read this topic online here:
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