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		LHusky
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:25 am    Post subject: How to get core engine apart | 
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				I just picked up 2 core engines.  With 2, I figure I will end up with  one good one. LOL!!  My problem is that both are froze up.  After  taking the top cover off of both, one looks pretty clean, just has a lot of rust  in the cylinders.  The other has some rust in the crank area, but not to  much.  The heads and cylinders are really on there.  What have people  used to deal with this kind of rust.  I can't get to all the connecting rod  bolts without turning the engine.  Any help would be great.  Also, I  want to remove the studs from the case.  How are people doing this.  I  tried the double nut idea, but both nuts turn.  
   
  Larry Husky 
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:42 am    Post subject: How to get core engine apart | 
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				Larry,
   
  I used mystery oil and put the engine in a tub from Lowe's and just kept it  soaked. Mystery oil seems to be the best I've tried but I think just getting oil  to the frozen parts is what helped the most. Just be patient and don't force  anything. I have wanted to try just soaking it in kerosene in the tub I bought  but haven't had any more engines to try it on. I'm sure there are 100 ways to do  it so everyone chime in.
   
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		Brady
 
  
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get core engine apart | 
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				Larry,
 There has been a lot of talk about an electrolysis method which I am not terribly familiar with, but there have been several people raving about it.
 A Google search on "electrical rust removal" or "Electrolytic rust removal"
 should produce some results.
 Jeff, you might want to try this too because it is quicker than just soaking them.
 
 This method is supposed to break down the rust into a slippery mud and then it just rinses off.
 
 I haven't had the need to try it yet but I have heard it works great.
 It's worth a shot.
 
 Brady
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: How to get core engine apart | 
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				Brady
   
  I saw that to but that's all I need to do right now is start making  something else. As I said right now I have no cores but if I get a bad one I  might try it. It doesn't seem to difficult.
   
  Jeff
   
   
  Larry,
 There has been a lot of talk about an electrolysis method which  I am not terribly familiar with, but there have been several people raving about  it.
 A Google search on "electrical rust removal" or "Electrolytic rust  removal"
 should produce some results.
 Jeff, you might want to try this too  because it is quicker than just soaking them.
 
 This method is supposed to  break down the rust into a slippery mud and then it just rinses off.
 
 I  haven't had the need to try it yet but I have heard it works great.
 It's  worth a shot.
 
  
   
 
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		LHusky
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: How to get core engine apart | 
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				Thanks, I will do some research on that and might give it a try.   
  Larry
   
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    I saw that to but that's all I need to do right now is start making    something else. As I said right now I have no cores but if I get a bad one I    might try it. It doesn't seem to difficult.
     
    Jeff
     
     
    Larry,
 There has been a lot of talk about an electrolysis method    which I am not terribly familiar with, but there have been several people    raving about it.
 A Google search on "electrical rust removal" or    "Electrolytic rust removal"
 should produce some results.
 Jeff, you might    want to try this too because it is quicker than just soaking them.
 
 This    method is supposed to break down the rust into a slippery mud and then it just    rinses off.
 
 I haven't had the need to try it yet but I have heard it    works great.
 It's worth a shot.
 
    
     
 
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		PatrickW
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: How to get core engine apart | 
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				I used a lot of PB Blaster (nasty smelling penetrating oil) and a torch.  But my engine wasn't locked up...
 
 You don't want to remove the head studs unless you absolutely have to.  I had to remove about 10 of mine due to total rust of the threads (was a salty Minnesota core).  Regarding the head nuts - I had to drill and chisel about half of mine off due to the nuts and studs rusting into a single mass.
 
 Regarding the electrolytic removal - I set that up too.  It's largely "line of site" - won't do you much good for getting rid of rust that's deep inside, like on the connecting rods or rings inside the engine, for example.
 
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		LHusky
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: How to get core engine apart | 
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				I had great luck with the deep down rust.  The pistons came right out  of the jugs after I finished.  I put 10 amps and let it sit  overnight.  I could not even budge the thing before that..  
   
  Larry Husky 
  Madras, Oregon
   
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 I used a lot of PB Blaster (nasty smelling    penetrating oil) and a torch.  But my engine wasn't locked    up...
 
 You don't want to remove the head studs unless you absolutely    have to.  I had to remove about 10 of mine due to total rust of the    threads (was a salty Minnesota core).  Regarding the head nuts - I had to    drill and chisel about half of mine off due to the nuts and studs rusting into    a single mass.
 
 Regarding the electrolytic removal - I set that up    too.  It's largely "line of site" - won't do you much good for getting    rid of rust that's deep inside, like on the connecting rods or rings inside    the engine, for example.
 
 Patrick
 601XL/Corvair
 N63PZ    (reserved)
 
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