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MarkWDavis
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Location: Syracuse, KS
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 Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: RED ALERT - Safety Review |
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I guess I'm lucky in that I've hardly ever flown anything that didn't have the gear handle on the left side of the instrument panel and the flap handle next to the throttle quadrant. But my GIB always hears "three down, three soldiers, flaps down, props at 80 and pressure's up". I always give it one last look in close for three green. I also always tell my GIB "gears pinned, flaps are coming" before I raise the flaps. Never the less, I still believe in the "those who have and those who will" theory. Fortunately, our YAKs don't suffer the damage the Nanchangs do when a boo boo occurs. Maybe the YAK designers accounted for the latent effects of excessive enjoyment of good quality vodka!
Mark Davis
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ChangDriver
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
Posts: 266
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: RED ALERT - Safety Review |
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Solutions are:
1) Dennis' idea of a noisemaker and diodes. Cheap and works. (about $20)
2) Headset interconnected device from ACS. I'd wire it to the gear lights and add a microswitch to the flap lever so that if flaps deployed while gear is up - you'd get the warning. (about $250)
3) Ground prox device from ACS ($1250) (can you turn it off for low passes  )
All costs are for devices only with no install costs (hey these are experimental!).
Cost of gear-up landing including the increase in premiums over the life of future flying?? Don't know that, but could be $50K or so.
In addition to the above, checklists (both paper and memorized), good habits (3 verbalizations of gear down and locked (d-wing, base turn, final).
I guess it all depends on the budget you have!!
Cheers,
Craig
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: RED ALERT - Safety Review |
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The nice thing about owning your own airplane is that you can do pretty much anything you want with it, especially if it is in the Experimental catagory.
Probably the biggest waste of time on record is for one pilot to tell another pilot what he should or should not do to his own aircraft, or how he should fly it.
This applies to both of us Forrest.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Fri 10/10/2008 10:42 AM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: RED ALERT - Safety Review
Auto-pilot is a greattool to releive the pilot but was never intended to be
the brains of the airplane. It needs to be monitored all the time.
Complacency and to much dependancy can lead to big problems especially
when IFR.
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flushjohnson(at)charter.n
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: RED ALERT - Safety Review |
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I totally agree. I always enjoy your comments.
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:32 am Post subject: RED ALERT - Safety Review |
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Thank you Forrest, but my opinion and $2 won't even buy coffee now-a-days.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Sat 10/11/2008 9:40 AM
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I totally agree. I always enjoy your comments.
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flushjohnson(at)charter.n
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: RED ALERT - Safety Review |
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Next time I see you I will buy the coffee. It will probably only cost $2 at
Starbucks and I won't be able to afford it the way things are going, FLY
SAFE
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mark.bitterlich(at)navy.m
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: RED ALERT - Safety Review |
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Thanks Forrest. Take care.
Mark
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From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com on behalf of Forrest Johnson
Sent: Sat 10/11/2008 6:42 PM
To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: RED ALERT - Safety Review
Next time I see you I will buy the coffee. It will probably only cost $2 at
Starbucks and I won't be able to afford it the way things are going, FLY
SAFE
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