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Lynn Matteson
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 Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Well, if you've got fuel tanks in both wings, by banking the plane
slightly, the fuel in the upper wing tank will flow toward the outlet
of that tank (if the outlet is on the inner wall of the tank...that
is, the side of the tank closest to the center of the plane), and
flow downward, helping to fill the header tank. If one of your tanks
empties faster than the other, this is a good way to insure that the
fuel in the most-full tank will flow into the header tank. This is
just a semi-emergency method of getting the normally "unusable fuel"
in the tank to flow into the header tank. You can sometimes just fly
with the nose slightly elevated and wings level if you need to get
those last few drops out of the tanks.
I'm not condoning these methods and by far the best thing to do is
have an adequate amount of fuel on board in the first place, but I've
used these methods to actually fill the header tank and make the low-
fuel warning light go out, because at the point that this light (in
my system anyway) goes out, I know that I have a full header
tank...approx 1 gallon...and can fly for 15 more minutes, more than
enough for flying around the area where I fly, where there is usually
fuel within that amount of time. I would not push it this far in
unfamiliar territory. This is just a last chance effort to use the
fuel that you have aboard. I've practiced doing this, as I feel one
should know his or her plane well enough to know where the fuel is
going in the system and why it's going there, and how to make it go
where it doesn't want to...within reason.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:22 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, Please explain the "low wing method". Thanks.
Pat reilly
Mod 3582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: sight glass fuel indicator?
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:15:28 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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> My two wing tanks feed the header tank, which, when full, fills up
> the low fuel indicator tank and then back up to the right wing tank.
> As long as I've got no yellow light on, I'm good for at least 15
> minutes flight. But when I know I'm low on fuel, I'll glance at the
> clear line between the low fuel indicator tank and the right wing,
> and if it starts to show air instead of fuel, then I've got a heads-
> up that the yellow (low fuel) light will soon glow, indicating that
> I've got 15 minutes to find fuel or go into the low-wing method of
> transferring fuel to the header tank. It's a lot less scary than it
> sounds!
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> Sensenich 62x46
> flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> system;
> also building a new pair of snow skis
> do not archive
>
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Bradley Webb wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > BTW, I slip to feed the header in the exact same way. But my fuel
> > system is
> > designed to detect header feed and level, not so much fuel
level in
> > the
> > tanks.
> >
> > Bradley
>
>
> >> As far as getting it right down to the bottom of the tank,
remember
> >> this is only for a sight gauge, so not being able to visibly
read the
> >> very last drop of fuel would be a good thing...you'd be
landing for a
> >> fill-up before you got into an emergency situation (said the
guy who
> >> flies with one wing low so the other can feed his header tank,
and
> >> thereby make it to the next stop) : )
> >>
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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One more thing....I've got clear glass filters in my downlines from
my wing tanks to the header tank, and can also observe that these are
full (or not), and this helps me judge whether or not the fuel is
flowing. After the header tank is full, I can observe fuel flowing
upwards in the clear vent line that leads from the header tank
through the low-fuel warning tank (about 10 ounces), and upwards to
the upper reaches of the right wing tank. This is visual proof of 15
minutes more useable fuel left, and I can then level the plane and
fly towards fuel or a landing place.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:22 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
| Quote: | Lynn, Please explain the "low wing method". Thanks.
Pat reilly
Mod 3582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
> From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> Subject: Re: sight glass fuel indicator?
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:15:28 -0500
> To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
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> My two wing tanks feed the header tank, which, when full, fills up
> the low fuel indicator tank and then back up to the right wing tank.
> As long as I've got no yellow light on, I'm good for at least 15
> minutes flight. But when I know I'm low on fuel, I'll glance at the
> clear line between the low fuel indicator tank and the right wing,
> and if it starts to show air instead of fuel, then I've got a heads-
> up that the yellow (low fuel) light will soon glow, indicating that
> I've got 15 minutes to find fuel or go into the low-wing method of
> transferring fuel to the header tank. It's a lot less scary than it
> sounds!
>
> Lynn
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gary.algate(at)sandvik.co
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Lynn if you fly inverted for a short period you can squeeze out another 2.5 minutes!
Hardy Har Har Har
Gary Algate
Classic 4 Jab 2200
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Well, if you've got fuel tanks in both wings, by banking the plane
slightly, the fuel in the upper wing tank will flow toward the outlet
of that tank (if the outlet is on the inner wall of the tank...that
is, the side of the tank closest to the center of the plane), and
flow downward, helping to fill the header tank. If one of your tanks
empties faster than the other, this is a good way to insure that the
fuel in the most-full tank will flow into the header tank. This is
just a semi-emergency method of getting the normally "unusable fuel"
in the tank to flow into the header tank. You can sometimes just fly
with the nose slightly elevated and wings level if you need to get
those last few drops out of the tanks.
I'm not condoning these methods and by far the best thing to do is
have an adequate amount of fuel on board in the first place, but I've
used these methods to actually fill the header tank and make the low-
fuel warning light go out, because at the point that this light (in
my system anyway) goes out, I know that I have a full header
tank...approx 1 gallon...and can fly for 15 more minutes, more than
enough for flying around the area where I fly, where there is usually
fuel within that amount of time. I would not push it this far in
unfamiliar territory. This is just a last chance effort to use the
fuel that you have aboard. I've practiced doing this, as I feel one
should know his or her plane well enough to know where the fuel is
going in the system and why it's going there, and how to make it go
where it doesn't want to...within reason.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:22 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, Please explain the "low wing method". Thanks.
>
> Pat reilly
> Mod 3582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: sight glass fuel indicator?
> > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:15:28 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > My two wing tanks feed the header tank, which, when full, fills up
> > the low fuel indicator tank and then back up to the right wing tank.
> > As long as I've got no yellow light on, I'm good for at least 15
> > minutes flight. But when I know I'm low on fuel, I'll glance at the
> > clear line between the low fuel indicator tank and the right wing,
> > and if it starts to show air instead of fuel, then I've got a heads-
> > up that the yellow (low fuel) light will soon glow, indicating that
> > I've got 15 minutes to find fuel or go into the low-wing method of
> > transferring fuel to the header tank. It's a lot less scary than it
> > sounds!
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
> > system;
> > also building a new pair of snow skis
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 8, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Bradley Webb wrote:
> >
> > > --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley Webb" <bmwebb(at)cox.net>
> > >
> > > BTW, I slip to feed the header in the exact same way. But my fuel
> > > system is
> > > designed to detect header feed and level, not so much fuel
> level in
> > > the
> > > tanks.
> > >
> > > Bradley
> >
> >
> > >> As far as getting it right down to the bottom of the tank,
> remember
> > >> this is only for a sight gauge, so not being able to visibly
> read the
> > >> very last drop of fuel would be a good thing...you'd be
> landing for a
> > >> fill-up before you got into an emergency situation (said the
> guy who
> > >> flies with one wing low so the other can feed his header tank,
> and
> > >> thereby make it to the next stop) : )
> > >>
> >=====================
> > _=======
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Fuel flow gauges are great. I have one on my panel and it provides alot of information you won't get from a sight tube. What it won't tell you tho is how much fuel is actually in the tanks. Fuel leaking out into the slipstream through a loose or missing cap (or in my experience an open header tank vent valve) does not register on the flow gauge but is every bit as "gone."
It's no substitute for an accurate measure of what's really in the tanks.
Marco Menezes N99KX
Model 2 582-90 C-Box 3:1
--- On Mon, 12/8/08, Rick <wingsdown(at)verizon.net> wrote:
| Quote: | From: Rick <wingsdown(at)verizon.net>
Subject: RE: sight glass fuel indicator?
To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
Date: Monday, December 8, 2008, 12:13 PM
| Quote: | --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick"
<wingsdown(at)verizon.net>
Not to offend any of the possible solutions offered, but If she were
mine I would just add a small fuel flow gage to the panel. You can put
the pick up in the fuel supply line. Several are offered and have many
advantages over just looking up to see what is left. Not that that is a
bad thing, far from it. But at this point in the finished state of the
aircraft it just makes more sense to me.
If you do decide to go with the sight tubes let me know and I will look
to see what I have laying around. Seems I was going to replace something
and had to buy the entire kit. If you do drill the fiberglass for
fittings might I suggest you do a bit of glass layer build up first. You
could also put in some nice permanent bushings to screw your tube
fittings in to.
Rick
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Damn! If it wasn't crappy weather here, I'd be out trying
that...thanks for the tip, Gary....hey wait a minute, you guys from
"down under" get to fly inverted all the time right? : )
(kids, don't try this at home...these comments were made by trained
professional bee-essers)
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
do not archive
On Dec 8, 2008, at 10:24 PM, gary.algate(at)sandvik.com wrote:
| Quote: |
Lynn if you fly inverted for a short period you can squeeze out
another 2.5 minutes!
Hardy Har Har Har
Gary Algate
Classic 4 Jab 2200
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Re: sight glass fuel indicator?
Well, if you've got fuel tanks in both wings, by banking the plane
slightly, the fuel in the upper wing tank will flow toward the outlet
of that tank (if the outlet is on the inner wall of the tank...that
is, the side of the tank closest to the center of the plane), and
flow downward, helping to fill the header tank. If one of your tanks
empties faster than the other, this is a good way to insure that the
fuel in the most-full tank will flow into the header tank. This is
just a semi-emergency method of getting the normally "unusable fuel"
in the tank to flow into the header tank. You can sometimes just fly
with the nose slightly elevated and wings level if you need to get
those last few drops out of the tanks.
I'm not condoning these methods and by far the best thing to do is
have an adequate amount of fuel on board in the first place, but I've
used these methods to actually fill the header tank and make the low-
fuel warning light go out, because at the point that this light (in
my system anyway) goes out, I know that I have a full header
tank...approx 1 gallon...and can fly for 15 more minutes, more than
enough for flying around the area where I fly, where there is usually
fuel within that amount of time. I would not push it this far in
unfamiliar territory. This is just a last chance effort to use the
fuel that you have aboard. I've practiced doing this, as I feel one
should know his or her plane well enough to know where the fuel is
going in the system and why it's going there, and how to make it go
where it doesn't want to...within reason.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 8, 2008, at 6:22 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Lynn, Please explain the "low wing method". Thanks.
>
> Pat reilly
> Mod 3582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
> > From: lynnmatt(at)jps.net
> > Subject: Re: sight glass fuel indicator?
> > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2008 17:15:28 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list(at)matronics.com
> >
> >
<lynnmatt(at)jps.net>
> >
> > My two wing tanks feed the header tank, which, when full, fills up
> > the low fuel indicator tank and then back up to the right wing
tank.
> > As long as I've got no yellow light on, I'm good for at least 15
> > minutes flight. But when I know I'm low on fuel, I'll glance at
the
> > clear line between the low fuel indicator tank and the right wing,
> > and if it starts to show air instead of fuel, then I've got a
heads-
> > up that the yellow (low fuel) light will soon glow, indicating
that
> > I've got 15 minutes to find fuel or go into the low-wing method of
> > transferring fuel to the header tank. It's a lot less scary
than it
> > sounds!
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
> > Sensenich 62x46
> > flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire
ignition
> > system;
> > also building a new pair of snow skis
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> > On Dec 8, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Bradley Webb wrote:
> >
> > >
<bmwebb(at)cox.net>
> > >
> > > BTW, I slip to feed the header in the exact same way. But my
fuel
> > > system is
> > > designed to detect header feed and level, not so much fuel
> level in
> > > the
> > > tanks.
> > >
> > > Bradley
> >
> >
> > >> As far as getting it right down to the bottom of the tank,
> remember
> > >> this is only for a sight gauge, so not being able to visibly
> read the
> > >> very last drop of fuel would be a good thing...you'd be
> landing for a
> > >> fill-up before you got into an emergency situation (said the
> guy who
> > >> flies with one wing low so the other can feed his header tank,
> and
> > >> thereby make it to the next stop) : )
> > >>
> >=====================
> > _=======
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Guys,
A number of comments on this topic indicated a number of Kitfoxes did not have fuel quantity indicators for their wing tanks. I didn't think it was possible to get an air worthiness certificate if each fuel tank did not have some sort of fuel quantity indicator.
Joe Connell
Kitfox-II, 582 C-Drive, Warp Drive Prop
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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This might seem petty, but all of you who are using the header tank as a low fuel indicator might be pressing your luck it seems. VFR minimum reserve is 20 minutes for planning purposes. You should always arrive with 20 minutes of fuel in your tank, not shortly after the 15 minute light comes on. So if you fly to another airport and anywhere in the flight start having these fuel concerns then that is proof of a very bad planning process, and god forbid anything happen I would call that a contributing factor. But I guess you could plan on always hanging out within 5-10 minutes of fuel and that is a pretty small playground.
I really don't care how much trouble it is to get sight glasses installed, to me it only makes sense. Again I really appreciate all the info, thanks for the help guys. 
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Beemer
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Well, unless you paint the tanks, you can see the fuel in there at anytime.
Bradley
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Subject: RE: sight glass fuel indicator?
Guys,
A number of comments on this topic indicated a number of Kitfoxes did not have fuel quantity indicators for their wing tanks. I didn't think it was possible to get an air worthiness certificate if each fuel tank did not have some sort of fuel quantity indicator.
Joe Connell
Kitfox-II, 582 C-Drive, Warp Drive Prop
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Lynn Matteson
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Well, I for one, do NOT use my header tank for a low fuel indicator.
I use a low fuel indicator, which, when it comes on, lets me know
that I have 15 minutes of fuel remaining in the header tank. This
low-fuel indicator is mounted above the header tank, and as such,
empties first, giving the 15-minute warning. But I also have sight
gauges in each tank which is my PRIMARY method of knowing how much
fuel is in each tank.
So to summarize, I see the remaining fuel in each wing tank first,
the low-fuel warning next, and the header still has 15 minutes of
fuel left. If a person is any more paranoid than that, they need to
find another pastime.
I got my wing-tank fuel indicators at John McBean's aftermarket sales
before it became "www.kitfoxaircraft.com"...as should you all. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 593hrs
Sensenich 62x46
flying again after rebuild, and new Electroair direct-fire ignition
system;
also building a new pair of snow skis
On Dec 9, 2008, at 8:43 PM, WurlyBird wrote:
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<james.t.trizzino(at)us.army.mil>
This might seem petty, but all of you who are using the header tank
as a low fuel indicator might be pressing your luck it seems. VFR
minimum reserve is 20 minutes for planning purposes. You should
always arrive with 20 minutes of fuel in your tank, not shortly
after the 15 minute light comes on. So if you fly to another
airport and anywhere in the flight start having these fuel concerns
then that is proof of a very bad planning process, and god forbid
anything happen I would call that a contributing factor. But I
guess you could plan on always hanging out within 5-10 minutes of
fuel and that is a pretty small playground.
I really don't care how much trouble it is to get sight glasses
installed, to me it only makes sense. Again I really appreciate
all the info, thanks for the help guys.
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MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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James sez:
| Quote: | ...all of you who are using the header tank as a low fuel indicator
might be pressing your luck it seems. VFR minimum reserve is 20
minutes for planning purposes.
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FAR 91.151 requires airplanes to carry 30 minutes of reserve fuel
(beyond the point of intended landing) for daytime VFR flights and 45
minutes at night (at normal cruise speeds). This is a flight
planning requirement and has nothing to do with the fuel level
indication system or any kind of on-board reserve tanking capability.
The 20 minute value applies only to rotorcraft operating in VFR
conditions (probably where you are coming from).
Interestingly, FAR 23.1337 places requirements on fuel quantity
indicators (must be clearly visible to the crew, must read "zero"
when the quantity is equal to the unusable fuel supply, etc.) but
doesn't actually require they be installed.
| Quote: | You should always arrive with 20 minutes of fuel in your tank, not
shortly after the 15 minute light comes on.
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Having a warning system in the airplane that lets you know when you
have 15 minutes of fuel left still has value, even if you have
properly planned your flight with the required reserves.
| Quote: | I really don't care how much trouble it is to get sight glasses
installed, to me it only makes sense.
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I agree that having a fuel quantity indication is very valuable but
that does not invalidate the fallback of instrumenting the header
tank. My 'fox had sight gauges, a low fuel sensor in the header
tank, and a fuel totalizer and the new one will have all three also.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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gary.algate(at)sandvik.co
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| Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:12 pm Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Bradley I think that they are talking about the header tank used with the two wing tanks - this is located behind the seat
Gary
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RE: sight glass fuel indicator?
Well, unless you paint the tanks, you can see the fuel in there at anytime.
Bradley
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Subject: RE: sight glass fuel indicator?
Guys,
A number of comments on this topic indicated a number of Kitfoxes did not have fuel quantity indicators for their wing tanks. I didn't think it was possible to get an air worthiness certificate if each fuel tank did not have some sort of fuel quantity indicator.
Joe Connell
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Tom Jones
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: Re: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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[quote="jconnell(at)fmwildblue.co"]Guys,
A number of comments on this topic indicated a number of Kitfoxes did not have fuel quantity indicators for their wing tanks. I didn't think it was possible to get an air worthiness certificate if each fuel tank did not have some sort of fuel quantity indicator.
Joe Connell
Kitfox-II, 582 C-Drive, Warp Drive Prop
Not many realize it but there is no requirement for any insturmentation in an experimental airplane for Daytime VFR. Heres a list of required equipment.
http://www.rainierultralightengines.com/forms/Minimum_Inst_Requirements.pdf
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:46 am Post subject: sight glass fuel indicator? |
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Our requirements are for 30 min reserve for daytime VFR and 45 min for
night... Because of the rough territory I like to see at least 45 min of
fuel in my tanks when I land. If I'm going to make a mistake I'd sooner
make that mistake on the side of safety
Remember:
1. Fuel is flight time
2. The only time you have too much fuel is when you are on fire.
Noel
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