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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:56 pm    Post subject: Speakers for helmet installation Reply with quote

All, I fly a trike wearing a full face Shoei helmet. While the helmet doesn't seal my ears like headphones it does cut down the noise considerably. It also cuts out my ability to hear my radio so I want to put speakers and a small mic in the helmet. I did this once before cannabalizing a Cobra VOX family radio for hang gliding. I don't want to cannabalize my David Clarks this time so the speakers and mic will be compatible with my hand held (a Vertex). Mouser has lots of mylar diaphragm speakers of the right size and depth. Can anyone recommend a particular speaker or mic cartridge that has worked for you?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Speakers for helmet installation Reply with quote

On 02/27/2013 05:55 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
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All, I fly a trike wearing a full face Shoei helmet. While the helmet
doesn't seal my ears like headphones it does cut down the noise
considerably. It also cuts out my ability to hear my radio so I want
to put speakers and a small mic in the helmet. I did this once before
cannabalizing a Cobra VOX family radio for hang gliding. I don't want
to cannabalize my David Clarks this time so the speakers and mic will
be compatible with my hand held (a Vertex). Mouser has lots of mylar
diaphragm speakers of the right size and depth. Can anyone recommend a
particular speaker or mic cartridge that has worked for you?

Rick Girard
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For the earphones, have you tried a pair of stereo 'ear buds'? It would

be pretty simple to try, with a 1/4" to 1/8" adapter. I've used a couple
of different types with a regular aircraft radio/intercom, & they worked
fine without any impedance matching devices. A pair of these under an
el-cheapo noise canceling headset (plug in the ear buds & leave the
headset phone plug 'loose') makes an incredibly quiet environment.

For a while, Plantronics made a little gaming headset consisting of ear
buds with a tiny boom mic off one of the buds. I've got a couple of
pairs, & they work with a/c radios/intercoms except for the problem of
the mic boom being too short to get the mic directly in front of your lips.

You could probably cannibalize a regular gaming headset to get a mic,
and the earphones too, if you want regular over-the-ear style instead of
in-ear. Ebay & Amazon have hundreds of choices. Many are so inexpensive
that the entire headset costs less than what a/c headset makers want to
charge for just a replacement mic cartridge.

The impedance matching issue is often a non-issue, due to the typically
low output impedance in any device made within the last couple of decades.

Charlie


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Speakers for helmet installation Reply with quote

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All, I fly a trike wearing a full face Shoei helmet. While the helmet doesn't seal my ears like headphones ........... Can anyone recommend a particular speaker or mic cartridge that has worked for you?
Rick Girard


Dear Rick,

Not only is there technical skill on this website, but good advice too, I hope.

The problem you are having is called "Target Fixation". What you need to do is sit down and imagine how to get where you want to be without adding unnecessary restraints such as "finding a use for a Shoei helmet". Or in other words, use the right tool for the job. There are helmets with built in headphones and full face-shields too. No problem.

One powerfull tool I have used is to just sell one device on Ebay and buy what you need there too.

Bada bing bada boom....


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:53 am    Post subject: Speakers for helmet installation Reply with quote

Eric, I've flown with the Com-tronics helmet when I was getting my WSC endorsement. It was all right, but I have a reason for wanting the Shoei. They have saved my life once and my looks twice. In every incident, the helmet took the blow and I escaped without so much as a headache. So you can understand why I like having a jaw bar that I know will keep the ground and debris away from my mug.

Rick

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> All, I fly a trike wearing a full face Shoei helmet. While the helmet doesn't seal my ears like headphones ........... Can anyone recommend a particular speaker or mic cartridge that has worked for you?
> Rick Girard


Dear Rick,

Not only is there technical skill on this website, but good advice too, I hope.

The problem you are having is called "Target Fixation". What you need to do is sit down and imagine how to get where you want to be without adding unnecessary restraints such as "finding a use for a Shoei helmet". Or in other words, use the right tool for the job. There are helmets with built in headphones and full face-shields too. No problem.

One powerfull tool I have used is to just sell one device on Ebay and buy what you need there too.

Bada bing bada boom....

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www.PerihelionDesign.com
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Southbridge, MA 01550
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:24 pm    Post subject: Speakers for helmet installation Reply with quote

Have you tried a motorcycle intercom kit? There are several available (I only have links for UK companies, but there must be a few stateside). They typically supply small speakers that velcro into the helmet and a microphone that glues into the chin bar with wires hidden behind the the lining. Equally they have plugs that will disconnect easily when you forget to unplug ...

Peter

On 27/02/2013 23:55, Richard Girard wrote:

[quote]All, I fly a trike wearing a full face Shoei helmet. While the helmet doesn't seal my ears like headphones it does cut down the noise considerably. It also cuts out my ability to hear my radio so I want to put speakers and a small mic in the helmet. I did this once before cannabalizing a Cobra VOX family radio for hang gliding. I don't want to cannabalize my David Clarks this time so the speakers and mic will be compatible with my hand held (a Vertex). Mouser has lots of mylar diaphragm speakers of the right size and depth. Can anyone recommend a particular speaker or mic cartridge that has worked for you?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:12 am    Post subject: Re: Speakers for helmet installation Reply with quote

[quote="rickofudall"]All, I fly a trike wearing a full face Shoei helmet. While the helmet doesn't seal my ears like headphones it does cut down the noise considerably. It also cuts out my ability to hear my radio so I want to put speakers and a small mic in the helmet. I did this once before cannabalizing a Cobra VOX family radio for hang cheap speakers gliding. I don't want to cannabalize my David Clarks this time so the speakers and mic will be compatible with my hand held (a Vertex). Mouser has lots of mylar diaphragm speakers of the right size and depth. Can anyone recommend a particular speaker or mic cartridge that has worked for you?

Rick Girard
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