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stein(at)steinair.com
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 Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:58 am Post subject: USB Charger Adapter |
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Good point, and I agree…which is why we stock both. Seems most people still have a 12VDC receptacle in the plane even if they have the panel mount USB port. As I said, though many of those things advertise “2.1A”, the real world usage of them and testing we’ve done shows that almost none of them actually will output that, or at least not consitently. When you have a regular iPad with the screen brightness up all the way running intensive apps, the best most of them will do is either keep it floating or perhaps a fraction of a charge. Lower the brightness or close some apps and they do much better (or get a mini). I guess I’m saying that though the specs on a number of units out there advertise certain amp ratings it’s not always true. That’s why we lowered the “real world” rating of the one we sell; to be realistic based on our testing. Either way I love having an iPad in the cockpit, but I’ve been finding I (and many customers) like the Mini or similar sized droid much better than the big tablets.
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:06 PM
To: rv10-list
Subject: Re: USB Charger Adapter
Nice thing about using a panel-mounted cigarette lighter and a USB adapter, rather than a panel-mounted USB adapter, is if the USB part breaks, you just pop it out and put another one in.
-Rob
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)>
If you say it works I would never bet against that based on your history! My history has never seen my ipad work on a outlet with a 2a fuse however. You have always been different Stein. So no! I wont bet against you and your word..ever. a losing proposal!
Thanks for trying however!! 
Pascal
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jjessen01
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| Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:12 am Post subject: USB Charger Adapter |
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Stein, I don't want to derail the topic, but could you give a brief summary why the mini iPad preference over the full? Is it just the size, or is it something more?
Thanks,
John J
On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:58 AM, "Stein Bruch" <stein(at)steinair.com (stein(at)steinair.com)> wrote:
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Good point, and I agree…which is why we stock both. Seems most people still have a 12VDC receptacle in the plane even if they have the panel mount USB port. As I said, though many of those things advertise “2.1A”, the real world usage of them and testing we’ve done shows that almost none of them actually will output that, or at least not consitently. When you have a regular iPad with the screen brightness up all the way running intensive apps, the best most of them will do is either keep it floating or perhaps a fraction of a charge. Lower the brightness or close some apps and they do much better (or get a mini). I guess I’m saying that though the specs on a number of units out there advertise certain amp ratings it’s not always true. That’s why we lowered the “real world” rating of the one we sell; to be realistic based on our testing. Either way I love having an iPad in the cockpit, but I’ve been finding I (and many customers) like the Mini or similar sized droid much better than the big tablets.
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Rob Kochman
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 10:06 PM
To: rv10-list
Subject: Re: USB Charger Adapter
Nice thing about using a panel-mounted cigarette lighter and a USB adapter, rather than a panel-mounted USB adapter, is if the USB part breaks, you just pop it out and put another one in.
-Rob
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Pascal <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)> wrote:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)live.com (rv10flyer(at)live.com)>
If you say it works I would never bet against that based on your history! My history has never seen my ipad work on a outlet with a 2a fuse however. You have always been different Stein. So no! I wont bet against you and your word..ever. a losing proposal!
Thanks for trying however!!
Pascal
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stein(at)steinair.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:38 am Post subject: USB Charger Adapter |
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I see this similar to what Deems just asked in another thread, but I’ll reply here. I find I like the mini as much or more than the big one because it’s literally half the weight, but about 2/3 the screen size…and surprisingly almost exactly the size/shape of a standard plate. Also, arguments about which one is more readable is a bit of a dubious discussion because to be blunt, all of them (apple or droids) pretty much suck in direct sunlight no matter which screen protector you use (though there are some that are FAR superior to others for reflectivity). In something like an RV10, both of them seem pretty usable to me depending on the various lighting conditions. I just find the smaller one easier to stow, to hold, to use, and all around easier to travel with regarding small planes. That said, I love the larger one for normal daily use (emails, videos, etc..). Both are good units, just seems that the smaller one is the one I gravitate to in the actual planes and I’ve found more and more pilots going the same way. If I give them both to someone to use with the same apps on them and they spend time with both, most will come back liking the smaller one in the smaller planes that we normally fly (yes the RV10 is larger, but still a “small” plane).
I would get the form factor you like and not worry too terribly much about nits, resolution, etc.. As I said, they ALL are poor in direct sunlight and none of them are going to look like a 696 (so if you are expecting them to look like that in the sun based on some pictures in a magazine ad you WILL be disappointed); but that’s not what we mostly use them for anyway. Even some of the more reasonably priced droid tablets seem to work pretty well, though my experience is that he apps running on that OS aren’t quite as polished and as stable as the same app running on iOS (at least for WingX, ForeFligth and Garmin Pilot). Tim Olson would also be a good one for advice on this, as he’s FAR more geeky than I am when it comes to the bits/bytes of these things and has superior experience in using them for longer periods of time and on trips in the cockpit than I do. J
That’s just my 2 cents, but everyone has their own opinions based on their own experiences, needs, budget, etc..
Cheers,
Stein
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:12 PM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: USB Charger Adapter
Stein, I don't want to derail the topic, but could you give a brief summary why the mini iPad preference over the full? Is it just the size, or is it something more?
Thanks,
John J
On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:58 AM, "Stein Bruch" <stein(at)steinair.com (stein(at)steinair.com)> wrote:
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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:59 am Post subject: USB Charger Adapter |
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I don't know if both have the same rating. I have however plugged my iPhone and ipad at the same time and they both charge fine. I did not keep the paperwork so I can't even look it up. But I did a test to be sure it worked before cutting the panel.
One thing I like about mine is the you can remove the trim and just have a small round plug for a clean installation.
Don't expect fast charging but it will better than keep up with consumption.
Rob Kermanj
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On Jul 13, 2013, at 10:38 AM, "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com> wrote:
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Rob: Do you know if both outlets are 2.1 amp or just one of them like many I
see. The description says "Max. Output Current: 2.1A" so I guess that means
both the iPad and the Stratus can't be charging at the same time. But I like
this idea and Monday I'm calling Stein concerning his offering as well.
Maybe install 1 or 2 of his and keep my cigarette lighter for an adaptor if
needed.
Albert Gardner
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