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 Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:43 am Post subject: KIS Cruiser becomes the 1st US Registered EAB into Havana |
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Good thing the the AIM and Advisory Circulars (and Dynon web page) are informational and not regulations. Or your "system" would not be legal for use IFR. Keep in mind that for the TSO-C129 GPS to meet the TSO it must be connected to an approved CDI, etc. So you would need to look up what CDI's have been approved (when Garmin got the TSO they made a required list) for your make and model GPS and use one of those. Dynon is not one of those, hence the TSO-C129 is not valid for your installation.
As the owner/builder you do need to make sure your "system" meets the applicable requirements of TSO-C129 or similar but absolutely there is no regulation that it needs to be certified to meet TSO-C129 or others nor is there a requirement to prove it, unless there is an enforcement issue due to a demonstrated problem.
The whole point being is the owner/builder/pilot is the responsible party.
But as I said before you will get a different answer from everyone you ask.
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On Mon, 12/14/15, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: KIS Cruiser becomes the 1st US Registered EAB into Havana Cuba.
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Date: Monday, December 14, 2015, 9:36 AM
Adding to what others have said about IFR
equipment certification, even though "TSO'd"
equipment is not required for an EAB, in order to legally
fly GPS IFR the GPS unit it must be certified to TSO-C129
or equivalent as per AIM 1-1-19. This requirement
specifically applies "for any IFR
operation" thus making it applicable to EAB
aircraft.
The TSO
covers much more than just an accurate GPS position source
but also includes the database(s) and error (RAIM) checking.
If you can demonstrate your GPS complies with the
requirements of TSO-C129 then you can use it as a GPS
navigation source for your EAB aircraft. However, you will
probably find that if you went through the extensive
paperwork required to prove your GPS complies with the TSO
you might as well obtain the TSO, increase the number of
aircraft you can sell to and the point will be
moot.
Here are some
links that cover this specific issue:https://www.faasafety.gov/gslac/ALC/course_content.aspx?cID=38&sID=247&preview=true
A good discussion on this topic can
be found on the DYNON forum: http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1362597418
ADS-B "OUT" position
sources don't have to be TSO's but must still meet
the equivalent (14CFR-91.227 amongst others) requirement.
The position source (doesn't have to be a GPS based)
manufacturer must document it meets the requirements and
again is true for all aircraft, not just EAB. The Catch-22
is that certificated aircraft require an authorization from
the aircraft manufacturer for installation and they
all have required TSO'd equipment. But nothing says
you can't install a non TSO'd ADS-B position source
that meets the requirements in a certificated aircraft using
an FAA-337 as long as you have compliance documentation, an
A&P or avionics repair station signs off on it and the
local FSDO agrees.
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%2020-165.pdf. Now
for navigation based on VOR, LOC, ILS and NDB's the TSO
requirement does not apply to EAB aircraft. Remember,
VOR's, NDB's and ILS' were in use long
before TSO certification even existed and some older
aircraft still have working non TSO'd equipment that
came with the airplane.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at
11:11 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
FWIW here is a link to a video my wife took
while I had my hands full as we approached to land in to
Havana.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcCFVaueyqI
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at
9:11 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
The DYNON is not a navigator but
flight instruments. The Garmin 430W and the VAL INS-429
are both IFR certified navigation systems. The DYNON
provides the flight instruments and displays the navigation
data from the G430W with the VAL INS-429 as a completely
independent IFR navigator.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at
8:39 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Cool panel. I knew you got the 2 Dynon EFIS
recently and since they're not IFR rated thought you
were VFR equipped.
Al
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at
6:30 PM, Galin Hernandez <galinhdz(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Al; My airplane is full IFR with triple
redundant flight instruments, dual redundant certified IFR
navigation equipment, two additional non certified
navigation sources and heated pitot tube. My navigation
sources are connected to my autopilot and altitude hold
module so it can do an approach if needed. You can see the
instruments on the attached photo taken while doing
an approach (DME Arc to Rwy15 at MSSS) in actual IMC
conditions back in 2014.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at
5:26 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa(at)gmail.com>
wrote:
Galin,I
didn't think your plane was IFR but you say you broke
out of the clouds at 800 ft ?Al
Rosa
Sent from my
iPhone
On Dec 13, 2015,
at 4:32 PM, "Kent Pyle" <kentpyle(at)iland.net>
wrote:
Galin, This is a real big deal. congratulations.
Kent
From: Galin
Hernandez
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:49 PM
To: kis-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: KIS Cruiser becomes the 1st
US Registered EAB
into Havana Cuba.
I had the privilege of receiving permission from the
Cuban Civil Aviation
Authority to land my KIS Cruiser EAB (N819PR) in to Havana
which I did on
December 4, 2015 thus being, as far as I can tell, the 1st
US registered EAB to
land in Cuba. As far as I can tell the 1st EAB to arrive in
Cuba was a Canadian
registered Seawind flown by either Vincent Rossi or
Dimitrios Mamais who landed
in to Havana sometime between 1996 and 1999.
I will get around to doing a write up of the whole trip
but I have to
figure out my notes first. In the mean time here is a link
to a photobucket
album showing how bad the weather was when we arrived. We
didn't have any
lightning just torrential rain and a bumpy ride. We saw the
runway lights at
about 1,200ft and finally broke out about 800ft.
http://s1370.photobucket.com/user/ghrmsr/library/1st%20US%20Experimental%20to%20Havana
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