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BobD
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 Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:12 pm Post subject: 4 Pin Soft Start Module |
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I have tried several sources (Conair, Skydrive, SAS, CFSAero) for a 4 pin Soft Start Module for my Rotax 912ULS, without success. I have been informed that they are no longer manufactured, and that I will need to change the whole SMD Electronic Module at approx 1200GBP to achieve the fix.
Does anyone know of any other sources that may have a new or used module ?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:35 pm Post subject: 4 Pin Soft Start Module |
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I believe that the soft start module was made by Smart Avionics / Mark Burton. You could try contacting him. Google Smart Avionics for contact details.
Richard Iddon.
G-RIXS
smart avionicsOn 7 Jul 2016, at 00:12, BobD <rjd(at)bobdawson.plus.com> wrote:
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I have tried several sources (Conair, Skydrive, SAS, CFSAero) for a 4 pin Soft Start Module for my Rotax 912ULS, without success. I have been informed that they are no longer manufactured, and that I will need to change the whole SMD Electronic Module at approx 1200GBP to achieve the fix.
Does anyone know of any other sources that may have a new or used module ?
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XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
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BobD
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JonathanMilbank
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:15 am Post subject: Re: 4 Pin Soft Start Module |
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Hi Bob,
Here's what I know. The soft start modules seemed to become unfashionable after Ducati ignition modules with built-in spark timing retardation became standard fit to some Rotax engines. This delayed spark feature during start-up lasts for several seconds and then reverts to normal timing advance.
Up to about 2 years ago there was a special offer through Skydrive to buy a PAIR of ignition modules for about £500 total and I took advantage of this because I was having starting difficulties. Presumably this special was because they knew of the starting difficulties the old modules were causing and certainly the new units cured my "kick-back" problems.
Now to your question. A friend of mine also with a 912ULS engine wasn't satisfied with the performance of his sparking system and heard of somewhere in the Netherlands where he could send both his modules for refurbishment. This involves opening the supposedly solid-state modules and replacing the questionable original electronic components with high spec stuff. Here are links
https://www.carmo.nl/index.php?
index&cPath=671_2711_4731
As far as I can recall he spent less than £400 total and the turn-around time was quick. Probably it'll cost somewhat more now that the pound has weakened. The result was a great improvement in his opinion and well worth the money, particularly when it is considered that a pair of new modules would cost around £2.5k. He's been flying with the refurbished modules for about 20 hours and I haven't heard of any dissatisfaction.
What I don't know and would like to, is whether the refurbished units incorporate the temporary retardation of timing for start-up, because it's VERY necessary for my Europa Classic which can't accommodate the longer and more powerful starter motor.
I'll ask friend Iain whether he wants to make further comment.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
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Roland
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Duncan McFadyean
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:13 am Post subject: 4 Pin Soft Start Module |
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There's also a homebrew version at:
http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22743
Probably not LAA approved!
Duncan McF.
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From: riddon(at)sent.com
Date: 07/07/2016 08:34
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Subj: Re: Europa-List: 4 Pin Soft Start Module
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I believe that the soft start module was made by Smart Avionics / Mark Burton. You could try contacting him. Google Smart Avionics for contact details.
Richard Iddon.
G-RIXS
smart avionicsOn 7 Jul 2016, at 00:12, BobD <rjd(at)bobdawson.plus.com> wrote:
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I have tried several sources (Conair, Skydrive, SAS, CFSAero) for a 4 pin Soft Start Module for my Rotax 912ULS, without success. I have been informed that they are no longer manufactured, and that I will need to change the whole SMD Electronic Module at approx 1200GBP to achieve the fix.
Does anyone know of any other sources that may have a new or used module ?
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Bob Dawson
XS TG || 912 ULS || G-NHRJ
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=457818#457818
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