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pequeajim
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 Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:00 pm Post subject: information on the Lightning |
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I saw the Lightning at Sebring and am very interested in the possibilities of this aircraft. The design seems to meet everything that I am looking for in a small fast glass airplane. I am confused about some of the specifications though and maybe some of you who have built and flown the aircraft and help me.
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>The specs say a 17:1 glide ratio with a wing of 90 sq ft? How is this possible? The CT has a large wing and a 13:1 GR?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>Take off roll of 310ft?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>The price list has an option for dual brakes. Doesn’t the aircraft come with brakes as standard equip?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>Is the nose wheel castering or steerable?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>What is the delivery schedule at this point?
Thanks for any feedback you all can give.
Jim!
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N1BZRich(at)AOL.COM
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:32 pm Post subject: information on the Lightning |
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Jim,
I am sure the Lightning guys will answer your questions when they get back from Sebring and get caught up, but until then here are my thoughts on your questions:
- The specs say a 17:1 glide ratio with a wing of 90 sq ft? How is this possible? The CT has a large wing and a 13:1 GR?
Different airfoil, less drag, less weight. Probably a combination of all of these.
When you fly one you will sometimes wish you had speed brakes.
- Take off roll of 310ft?
Yep, depending on the prop and whether you build your Lightning as light sport compliant, but probably not at gross weight on a hot day. That would be closer to 500 ft.
- The price list has an option for dual brakes. Doesn’t the aircraft come with brakes as standard equip?
The aircraft comes with toe brakes on the pilot side as standard. Dual brakes would include brakes on the co-pilot side as well.
- Is the nose wheel castering or steerable?
Castering - 30 degrees each side of center.
- What is the delivery schedule at this point?
Probably depends on how many they sold at Sebring, but call them next week for the real answer.
Jim, hope this helps. The Lightning is a super airplane if you are looking to get in the air quickly and at an economical cost. It is a dream to fly.
Blue Skies,
Buz [quote][b]
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dashvii(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: information on the Lightning |
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Jim,
To answer some of your questions. I haven't verified the glide ratio,
but it is high due to wing loading. Also the wing is a pretty thick wing.
I saw the Lightning at Sebring and am very interested in the possibilities
of this aircraft. The design seems to meet everything that I am looking for
in a small fast glass airplane. I am confused about some of the
specifications though and maybe some of you who have built and flown the
aircraft and help me. The takeoff roll is extremely short. With 2 of us on
board, full fuel and about 20 lbs of baggage we took off from Carlsbad, NM
at 4000 feet field elevation and 105 degree temps in maybe 500 feet. The
optional dual brakes if for brakes in the passenger side floor. The
prototype only has brakes on the pilot's side. The nosewheel is castering,
which means extremely tight turns on the ground. Anymore that I can help,
let me know. Brian W.
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: Re: information on the Lightning |
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I'm going to give those guys a call today and try to setup a weekend visit if at all possible.
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Kayberg(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: information on the Lightning |
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Jim,
Call Ryan at Green Landings.....304-754-6010.
We have a kit coming that should be delivered in the next month. We were going to build it ourselves, but could be pursuaded with money!!!!
Doug
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| Quote: | Jim,
I am sure the Lightning guys will answer your questions when they get back from Sebring and get caught up, but until then here are my thoughts on your questions:
- The specs say a 17:1 glide ratio with a wing of 90 sq ft? How is this possible? The CT has a large wing and a 13:1 GR?
Different airfoil, less drag, less weight. Probably a combination of all of these.
When you fly one you will sometimes wish you had speed brakes.
- Take off roll of 310ft?
Yep, depending on the prop and whether you build your Lightning as light sport compliant, but probably not at gross weight on a hot day. That would be closer to 500 ft.
- The price list has an option for dual brakes. Doesn’t the aircraft come with brakes as standard equip?
The aircraft comes with toe brakes on the pilot side as standard. Dual brakes would include brakes on the co-pilot side as well.
- Is the nose wheel castering or steerable?
Castering - 30 degrees each side of center.
- What is the delivery schedule at this point?
Probably depends on how many they sold at Sebring, but call them next week for the real answer.
Jim, hope this helps. The Lightning is a super airplane if you are looking to get in the air quickly and at an economical cost. It is a dream to fly.
Blue Skies,
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pete(at)flylightning.net
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: information on the Lightning |
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Hello Jim,
Some simple answers:
17:1 comes from having a very clean airframe with least amount of drag as possible.
Takeoff can be less than 310 if we really work at it.
The airplane kit comes with hydraulic brakes on the pilot’s side. Dual brakes add brakes on the copilot side as well.
It has a castering nose wheel.
Delivery for an order today would be March
Let me know if you need more info.
Pete Krotje
Arion Aircraft, LLC
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Langley
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Subject: Lightning-List: information on the Lightning
I saw the Lightning at Sebring and am very interested in the possibilities of this aircraft. The design seems to meet everything that I am looking for in a small fast glass airplane. I am confused about some of the specifications though and maybe some of you who have built and flown the aircraft and help me.
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>The specs say a 17:1 glide ratio with a wing of 90 sq ft? How is this possible? The CT has a large wing and a 13:1 GR?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>Take off roll of 310ft?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>The price list has an option for dual brakes. Doesn’t the aircraft come with brakes as standard equip?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>Is the nose wheel castering or steerable?
<![if !supportLists]>- <![endif]>What is the delivery schedule at this point?
Thanks for any feedback you all can give.
Jim! | Quote: | | http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List |
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IFLYSMODEL(at)AOL.COM
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: information on the Lightning |
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Hey Pete: Were you at the Sport Pilot expo? I saw the lightening there, but did not have time to stay and ask for a demo ride. I did put a request on the Internet. I liked what I saw, and am seriously considering ordering a kit. You said the kit ordered now would come in March, does that include the Jabiru engine? I heard that their deliveries are backed up to October at present.
How much deposit is required to put a kit on order?
Lynn Nelsen
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: information on the Lightning |
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Thanks Peter.
I am going to try to arracnge for a visit to your location by next month. I would like to get a look at the operation and talk to your person that heads up the builder assist program.
Jim!
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