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April 01, 2011 - November 17, 2014
>>From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>>Sent: Mar 31, 2011 12:21 PM
>>To: rv-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com
>>Subject: RV-List: Low RPM/High MP vs. High RPM/Low MP...
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>>
>>Dear Listers,
>>
>>With the IO-390 and Hartzell 72" CS on my RV-8, a combination of 2150 RPM and
25-26 MP gives me nice 200MPH True and about 10.5-10.8 GPH. These number are
down low, maybe 3000ft. Higher altitude gives lower GPHs. At 2150, the cockpit
is pretty quiet too.
>>
>>Increasing the RPM and Decreasing the MP doesn't really change the GPH that much,
but starts dropping the speed.
>>
>>In all configurations, I'm running LOP at about 1360 on the hottest cylinder.
Oil temps are about 178 F. Max MP at low altitude is about 28-29.
>>
>>Are there any issues running in a low-RPM, high-MP configuration as described
above?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-
>>Matt Dralle
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| From: | "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Re: Low RPM/High MP vs. High RPM/Low MP... |
Matt,
I did some research and came up with another 390 user.....:
http://www.io-390.com/IO-390.com/GRT_Perf_Tables.html
Maybe that'll help.
Meanwhile - you should already know how much value these lists add to our ventures.....
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>Sent: Mar 31, 2011 11:54 PM
>To: rv-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RV-List: Re: Low RPM/High MP vs. High RPM/Low MP...
>
>Hum, interesting. In that graph, albeit for the IO-360, the "Limiting MP For
Continuous Ops" at 26 MP is 2100 RPM. 27 MP is 2200. Assuming the IO-390 is
similar, 2150 at 26.5 ought to be good to go. BTW, I flew tonight and at 26/2150
I was seeing about 10.2-10.5 GPH @ 2500ft. Better than I recalled.
>
>Where can I get a sweet chart like that for my IO-390? I looked quickly though
the manuals that came with the engine, and I didn't see one.
>
>Thanks for the feedback everyone!
>
>
>-
>Matt Dralle
>RV-8 #82880 N998RV
>http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
>http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
>Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
>
>
>At 10:07 AM 3/31/2011 Thursday, you wrote:
>>Matt,
>>
>>I don't have an IO390 but the manual for my IO360B shows that combination as
outside of the suggested area of continuous operation - yes it was a quick look
and I didn't purely run the numbers.
>>
>>I would guess that combination might be detonation-prone.
>>
>>YMMV - see if you can get the appropriate chart for the IO390. They are a bugger
to figure out too - but there are some guidelines.
>>
>>Ralph
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>>>Sent: Mar 31, 2011 12:21 PM
>>>To: rv-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com
>>>Subject: RV-List: Low RPM/High MP vs. High RPM/Low MP...
>>>
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>>>
>>>Dear Listers,
>>>
>>>With the IO-390 and Hartzell 72" CS on my RV-8, a combination of 2150 RPM and
25-26 MP gives me nice 200MPH True and about 10.5-10.8 GPH. These number are
down low, maybe 3000ft. Higher altitude gives lower GPHs. At 2150, the cockpit
is pretty quiet too.
>>>
>>>Increasing the RPM and Decreasing the MP doesn't really change the GPH that
much, but starts dropping the speed.
>>>
>>>In all configurations, I'm running LOP at about 1360 on the hottest cylinder.
Oil temps are about 178 F. Max MP at low altitude is about 28-29.
>>>
>>>Are there any issues running in a low-RPM, high-MP configuration as described
above?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>-
>>>Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Heavy Right Wing... (Additional Thoughts) |
After a good night's rest I got to thinking about these most recent observations.
Dropping the RIGHT aileron a 1/16" caused the trim requirement at high speed
to go from the previous full-LEFT to a full-RIGHT setting. Wouldn't this
imply that now the LEFT aileron needs a similar adjustment perhaps? Maybe only
a 1/32" on the left side? Seems that if a given aileron that was too HIGH was
dropped too much it would still cause the same drag/trim problem if its too
LOW? So the fact that now my trim is completely the opposite implies that the
RIGHT aileron is probably now exactly on and moreover, it was TWICE as much
too high as the LEFT aileron still is.
Does any of this make sense?
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
At 08:47 PM 3/31/2011 Thursday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>Thanks to everyone for the great feedback on this issue!!
>
>I went out after work tonight and had a look at the aileron alignment and sure
enough, the outboard edge of the right aileron was high by about 1/16-3/32 of
an inch. I took the hinge off the aileron and elongated the holes slightly and
reassembled, dropping the outboard side by about 1/16". I went out and took
it up to about 220mph and now - are you ready for this - it requires full RIGHT
trim! Completely the opposite from before. So, obviously I need to reduce
the drop by 50% and I should be dead-on neutral trim! Its amazing to me how
such a little movement had such a HUGE impact on the trim. No, aileron edge
smooshing necessary, by the way! Whew!
>
>Best,
>-
>Matt Dralle
>
>At 09:10 AM 3/31/2011 Thursday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>>
>>
>>Dear Listers,
>>
>>Well, taking the RV-8 in for paint is getting closer and closer and I'm trying
to get all the little things that need doing done before then. Dealing with
the heavy right wing is the next thing on the list. Currently, at low speed
I have about neutral aileron trim. The faster I go, the more LEFT trim I need.
Above 200mph, I run out of left trim and the left aileron is noticeably "up",
maybe .125" or so. Both of my ailerons are "chubby" at the trailing edge.
I wanted to confirm with the List that "squeezing" the RIGHT aileron will add
a bit of lift on the RIGHT side and hopefully neutralize the issue?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Matt
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Heavy Right Wing... (Follow Up) |
Last night I went out and measured the position of the left aileron and found it
to be pretty darn close to perfect on both inboard and outboard edges. I measured
the right aileron and noted that the outboard edge was about 1/32 lower
than the inboard edge. So, I thought I'd try splitting the different between
the original location and the current one. I went out test this new setting
and to my amazement and jubilation, the trim is almost dead center across the
speed range of 170-230mph. A little tap either way easily accounts for fuel burn
on a given side. I also noted that the skid ball is nicely dead center across
those speed ranges. Yahoo! One less thing to worry about!
Thanks to everyone on the List for their input! Very much appreciated!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
At 09:27 AM 4/1/2011 Friday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>After a good night's rest I got to thinking about these most recent observations.
Dropping the RIGHT aileron a 1/16" caused the trim requirement at high speed
to go from the previous full-LEFT to a full-RIGHT setting. Wouldn't this
imply that now the LEFT aileron needs a similar adjustment perhaps? Maybe only
a 1/32" on the left side? Seems that if a given aileron that was too HIGH
was dropped too much it would still cause the same drag/trim problem if its too
LOW? So the fact that now my trim is completely the opposite implies that the
RIGHT aileron is probably now exactly on and moreover, it was TWICE as much
too high as the LEFT aileron still is.
>
>Does any of this make sense?
>
>-
>Matt Dralle
>
>At 08:47 PM 3/31/2011 Thursday, you wrote:
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>>
>>Thanks to everyone for the great feedback on this issue!!
>>
>>I went out after work tonight and had a look at the aileron alignment and sure
enough, the outboard edge of the right aileron was high by about 1/16-3/32 of
an inch. I took the hinge off the aileron and elongated the holes slightly
and reassembled, dropping the outboard side by about 1/16". I went out and took
it up to about 220mph and now - are you ready for this - it requires full RIGHT
trim! Completely the opposite from before. So, obviously I need to reduce
the drop by 50% and I should be dead-on neutral trim! Its amazing to me how
such a little movement had such a HUGE impact on the trim. No, aileron edge
smooshing necessary, by the way! Whew!
>>
>>Best,
>>-
>>Matt Dralle
>>
>>At 09:10 AM 3/31/2011 Thursday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>>>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>>>
>>>
>>>Dear Listers,
>>>
>>>Well, taking the RV-8 in for paint is getting closer and closer and I'm trying
to get all the little things that need doing done before then. Dealing with
the heavy right wing is the next thing on the list. Currently, at low speed
I have about neutral aileron trim. The faster I go, the more LEFT trim I need.
Above 200mph, I run out of left trim and the left aileron is noticeably "up",
maybe .125" or so. Both of my ailerons are "chubby" at the trailing edge.
I wanted to confirm with the List that "squeezing" the RIGHT aileron will add
a bit of lift on the RIGHT side and hopefully neutralize the issue?
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Matt
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Canopy Skirt Buzz... (Follow Up) |
Since I wrote the message below, the ambient temps have gone up quite a bit and
I started opening the air vents in the cabin again. Well, the combination of
the warmer canopy parts and the extra pressure inside the cabin because of the
vents, the buzz returned and was pretty loud. At cruse, the buzz was louder
than the engine!
So yesterday I took a look at where the buzz might actually becoming from. Closer
inspection showed that, about right in the middle of the fiberglass skirt
"curve" behind the rear seat it wasn't quite lying flush against the top fuselage
skin. I found that I could kind of hammer on the skirt with my finger at
the high point and make a sound similar to what I was hearing in flight.
Last Summer, I had put a strip of Velcro "loops" all the way around the base of
the canopy skirt which definitely deaden the noise. BUT, after sitting out in
the 110 degree sun, the glue on the Velcro got all melty and the tape started
to slide do to the side "stress" of applying the tape on the curve.
I noticed during a trip to Lowes last night that they have a "Heavy Duty" version
of the Velcro tape that is suppose to hold up to outdoor conditions. I bought
a roll and headed out to the airport.
I didn't really want to put tape all the way around the base of the skirt like
before in case this new Heavy Duty stuff didn't hold up in the sun either. So,
I found the aforementioned high spots on the left and right sides, and simply
applied a 3" long strip at the "transition" area between where the skirt was
touching the skin and the high-point of the skirt above the skin. I noted that
tapping on the area didn't yield nearly the buzz as before.
I went out and flew and I'm extremely happy to report that the buzzing is completely
gone!! I feel its kind of the perfect solution in that now I have a nice
layer of UHMW all the way around the canopy skirt to minimize the top skin abrasion,
and have stopped the buzzing with a simple and easily replaceable solution.
Matt's $.02.
Best regards,
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 160+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
At 12:15 PM 3/22/2011 Tuesday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>At 10:25 AM 3/22/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>>Matt,
>>Did you settle on a material that you preferred for deadening the canopy buzz
[on your RV-8]? We are experiencing the same thing but at a very narrow speed
range. Before we reinvent the wheel I figured I would ask.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Robin
>
>
>Hi Robin,
>
>Yes, solved mostly. Here the stuff to get:
>
>http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive?forward=1
>
>This is black UHMW table with a rubber adhesive (good to 150F). I got the .020"
stuff.
>
>Its not very bendable sideways, so don't try to get the .5" kind and wrap it around
the s-curve in the back. It definitely won't stick for very long.
>
>Get the 6" wide stuff - Part number <http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa//item/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive/anti-stat-uhmw-19-20blk-6-5?>19-20BLK-6-5 (5 yards) or 19-20BLK-6-18 (18 yards) - and lay it flat over the skirt on the inside and then trace the contour. Move it up by about .75" and then trace again. Then cut out the piece which should be a perfect fit around the inside edge of the canopy skirt. I forgot to take any pictures of the process! That's so not like me! :-)
>
>I also used the .5" stuff (<http://cshyde.thomasnet.com/viewitems/tapes-with-psa//item/tapes-with-psa/uhmw-tape--black-anti-stat-rubber-adhesive/anti-stat-uhmw-19-20blk-5-5?>19-20BLK-.5-5) for along the straight left and right side of the skirt. Although, I wish I'd used the .75 stuff.
>
>Seems to dampen the vibration and also doesn't mark the paint/metal due to its
low co-efficient of friction. Its basically the same stuff that Van's sells
for the flaps, but much thicker and black. I also like the high-temp rubber adhesive.
We'll see how it holds up over the Summer.
>
>My only complaint is that I wish they made a .040" thick version.
>
>-
>Matt Dralle
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| From: | Robert Savage <bsavage22(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Cleaning Aluminum Skins |
I am close to moving my RV7A to the hangar for final assembly. I plan on f
lying my RV before it is painted for a while and it has been sitting in my
shop for a long time getting dust=2C and whatever on it. I would like to c
lean the skins but I don't want to polish it. I would like some recommenda
tions on what to use to clean/wash it. I have heard there are some cleanin
g agents that should not be used prior to painting. Are there any recommen
dations out there for washing/cleaning the aluminum.
Bob Savage
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| From: | "Mark Burns" <burnsm(at)suddenlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Cleaning Aluminum Skins |
Bob,
I would just use a mild detergent like liquid car wash soap. I've also used
windex on the bare skins with good results. I do wipe it right of though and
then go over it with a damp cloth.
Hope this helps.
Mark
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Robert Savage <bsavage22(at)hotmail.com>
Sent: Tue, Apr 5, 2011 04:01:53 GMT+00:00
Subject: RV7-List: Cleaning Aluminum Skins
I am close to moving my RV7A to the hangar for final assembly. I plan on
flying my RV before it is painted for a while and it has been sitting in my
shop for a long time getting dust, and whatever on it. I would like to
clean the skins but I don't want to polish it. I would like some
recommendations on what to use to clean/wash it. I have heard there are
some cleaning agents that should not be used prior to painting. Are there
any recommendations out there for washing/cleaning the aluminum.
Bob Savage
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| From: | fedico94(at)mchsi.com |
| Subject: | Re: Cleaning Aluminum Skins |
I have use liquid wrench with silicone to remove overspray etc and seems to polish
aluminum. Some people say that the silicone will interfere with paint application
but I would think that acid etch would go through and prep metal.
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Savage <bsavage22(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Cleaning Aluminum Skins
I am close to moving my RV7A to the hangar for final assembly. I plan on flying
my RV before it is painted for a while and it has been sitting in my shop for
a long time getting dust, and whatever on it. I would like to clean the skins
but I don't want to polish it. I would like some recommendations on what to
use to clean/wash it. I have heard there are some cleaning agents that should
not be used prior to painting. Are there any recommendations out there for
washing/cleaning the aluminum.
Bob Savage
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | "Worn Out" CT-Q67 Cable Assembly (Warning!) |
Dear Listers,
At 170 hours on my RV-8 now, the Prop control had become increasing more difficult
to move starting around 100 hours. The Mixture and Throttle have worked fine
and continue to. All three controls use the standard "Green" control cables
from Vans, typically a "CT-Qxx" part.
A couple of weeks ago, I disassembled the Governor end of the assembly and made
sure that there was no binding or issues on that end. I even lightly lubed up
the various moving bits. Yesterday, the Prop control became so difficult to
move that I had trouble cycling the prop during run up. I pulled the whole throttle
quadrant installation apart today to have a look. I got the cable completely
out of the airplane and there are NO outward signs of wear or abuse of
*any kind*. But even with the cable completely out of the plane and nothing
connected to either end, it is almost impossible to move the cable!! I have a
new CT-Q67 cable assembly for my front-mounted governor installation and I'm
going to install that next.
But, I wanted to give everyone a heads up on these CT-Q controls. These things
are built like they go on a Caterpillar Tractor, so I can't figure out why they
would wear out like this.
If one of these controls starts getting stiff and tight, its probably not going
to get any better. Replace it before it becomes a safety issue! Not a big deal
on the Prop control, but on a throttle or mixture it could be a serious concern.
Best regards,
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours Total Time Since May 2 2010 Test Flight!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Cracks Around Rudder Stiffeners... |
After washing the 'ol RV-8 last night, I noticed that there is about a .5" crack
in the .02" skin of the rudder in the *front* of two of the angle stiffeners
(towards the leading edge of the rudder). The skin is a little "bulgy" right
there, and its possible that I gave that area a good push with my thumb at some
point to see if I could get it to flatten out.
Obviously I need to keep an eye on this, but is it anything to worry about, really?
I'm just about ready to take the plane in for paint, so if I have to do
something about it, I'd rather do it *before* the paint.
Thanks in advance for the feedback,
-
Matt "Fox" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | West Coast Formation Clinic (WCFC) This Weekend... |
Any listers planning on attending the WCFC this weekend in Madera California?
I'm planning on being there with the 'ol RV-8. Come up and say 'hi' and introduce
yourself; I'd love to meet some of the Listers in person!
-
Matt "Fox" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Paint job is all that's left...
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| Subject: | RV-7 Quick build project for sale |
| From: | "billz" <billz(at)roadrunner.com> |
A friend was building an RV-7, but did not finish before his death. If anyone
is interested in buying the complete project, here is the information.
For Sale
RV-7 Quick Build kit
Located in Central New York State
Asking $26,000
Empennage complete, Quick Build Fuselage partially completed, Quick Build wings,
as delivered from Vans.
Contact Kathy Kelly, 315-335-0572
Empennage kit (purchased Jan 2007) $1,690
Empennage, elevator electric trim $ 325
Fuselage kit (slider canopy config.) (3-4 month availability from Vans) $5,915
(Purchased Feb 2009)
Fuselage Quick build option $5,360
Fuselage, Static air kit $ 19
Fuselage, aileron electric trim $ 320
Fuselage, elevator electric trim credit $ (80)
Oregon Aero un-upholstered seat cushions (2) $ 684
Cleveland "Sure Grip Brake Pedals (2 sets) $ 338
Wing kit (3-4 month availability from Vans) $6,710
(Purchased June 2010)
Wing, quick build option $5,360
Wing float fuel sending units $ 54
Total invested $26,695
Read this topic online here:
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| From: | Garey Wittich <gareywittich2000(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Anybody going to Golden West Fly-in ????? |
Looking for a ride or somebody can fly with me in our Club's C172 based here in
Santa Monica (KSMO) - Wx permitting of course. Always more fun to fly with
somebody and share the experience / cost ???
Garey Wittich (RV8A Builder, CFI, MEI)
(310) 392-1682
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| From: | "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Wheel Fairing/ Plane Leveling with Laser |
Ok, I also did the unthinkable easy thing and it was on an RV7a. I did NOT
hoist the airplane up to put the wheel fairings on. I used a laser that
gives both vertical and horizontal planes to align the wheel centerlines up
with the fairing and then with a line offset from the centerline of the fuse
at front and back. I think these pictures will tell the story.
Did both in an afternoon along with the leg fairings. It was possible to
get them absolutely parallel with the fuse centerline. Granted in flight
they hang at a slightly different angle but the important thing is that they
be parallel with the centerline airflow. I have zero rudder trim in cruise
and the ball is centered.
That is a Stanley Vert/Hor Laser and is self leveling. Lots of uses in
setting the emp because it allows you to square two surfaces like the vert
stab and the Hor stab as well as checking for level in Hor mode.
This what I did:
Dropped a plumb line at the rear tie down and made a mark on the floor.
Then aligned the laser with the mark and the center of the front gear leg.
(yeah you could pull a plumb line but the laser is easy). Mark the floor
for the fuse centerline.
Then measure carefully from the fuse centerline to the tire centerline on
each side. Note the tire is tilted. Then shoot a line across the bare tire
with the top center tread, be sure to align a mark about two foot in front
of the tire the same distance out from the fuse centerline and align with a
equal distance mark at the rear tie down. Now you know the exact parallel
line that the fairing should match when installed on the tire.
Once you have that line, keep the laser in place and mount the wheel
fairing. Then simply align the fairing parallel with the laser line and you
automatically match the fuse centerline. Adjust the fairing for parallel to
the ground front and back using the plan measurements. Carefully drill to
brackets and you are done.
Set the plane up again the same way with appropriate distance and reset
lines for the leg fairings. Used a line and slip ring to verify the leg
fairings were aligned with the fuse and set them. After that, I matched the
intersection fairings to the leg and wheel fairings.
Hope this helps! If you want to hoist then hoist, this is just another way!
Bill S
7a Still got the grin!
48 hours since Jan 2
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:09 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wheel Fairing/ Plane Leveling Question
--> RV10-List message posted by: Bill Watson
Sounds right.
Since you are assembled and flying, this may not be feasible.
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/category.php?user=MauleDriver&project=224&cate
gory=5629
With nosewheel removed, there's only the need to jack the main gear off a
minimal distance.
BTW, I found a simple laser line shot from tail forward provides a great
centerline. You can actually split the rivets on the fuse and split the
nose gear. Then used a piece of angle iron on the floor. The angle iron
was heavy enough not to move while hitting it repeatedly with the measuring
tape.
Knee pads will be good too.
On 6/12/2011 10:04 PM, Michael Kraus wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Michael
> --> Kraus
>
> I'm getting ready to install the wheel pants. The directions say to raise
the plane do the wheels are 1/16" off the ground and level longitudinally
and laterally. To get it level longitudinally, the nose wheel is 1/16", but
the mains are about 2" off the ground. I am leveling to the F-1015C mid
cabin deck.
>
> Is this what others have seen?
>
> Just wanna make sure I'm not missing something... Don't want to be
misaligned and slow my bird down!!
>
> -Mike Kraus
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A Kindred Spirit... |
A 20-year Project
A 42-foot schooner isn't a big project for a ship-building company. It's a different
matter if you're the one doing all the work. In the early 1990s, Dr. John
Vardiman decided to build one from scratch. It took over 20 years to complete.
What an great story of perseverance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN4kmlAxvGU&feature=player_embedded
I know just how he feels... :-)
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | "Michael" <captmikemm(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | A Kindred Spirit... |
I have built a few boats, and one airplane.
It is a nice feeling.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:08 PM
Subject: RV7-List: A Kindred Spirit...
A 20-year Project
A 42-foot schooner isn't a big project for a ship-building company. It's a
different matter if you're the one doing all the work. In the early 1990s,
Dr. John Vardiman decided to build one from scratch. It took over 20 years
to complete. What an great story of perseverance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN4kmlAxvGU&feature=player_embedded
I know just how he feels... :-)
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | WxWorx REWX9ID USB Weather Receiver For Sale... |
I have a 1-year old WxWorx REWX9ID USB XM Aircraft Weather and XM Audio receiver
for sale. It was just removed from my RV-8 and is in perfect working order.
Includes Antenna, Mount, Receiver Unit, and USB Interface.
It is compatible with the Grand Rapids EFISs and a number of others. Gives text
and graphical representations of weather including Rain, Wind, Temp, etc. Requires
separate monthly XM subscription which is not included in this offering.
Attached are some pictures of the actual unit for sale.
Works great and I wouldn't fly without a similar product. I'm replacing the functionality
with an ADS-B receiver.
Additional information on the unit can be found here:
https://www.wxworx.com/portable-receiver-overview
https://www.wxworx.com/interface-modules
Aircraft Spruce has the unit for $595:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/fl190True.php
I will take $400 firm for the unit as shown plus $10 for shipping. First come,
first served. Email me with questions.
I can accept PayPal http://www.paypal.com using "dralle@matronics.com" or I can accept Visa/MC directly. I will take a 2.5% discount for a check, but it will have to clear before I ship.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | "Paul Pflimlin" <pablo(at)phonewave.net> |
| Subject: | RV-7 or 8 WING JIG |
I have a mobile wing jig that I am tired of storing. Easily
carried in back of P-up truck. Price is FREE. Located at Fallon
Nevada. contact--- pablo(at)phonewave.net
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| Subject: | Re: WxWorx REWX9ID USB Weather Receiver For Sale... |
| From: | Franz Fux <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
Hi folks, I also have something for sale, Pm 1000 intercom with Stein Air
harness wired for the SL40 in my RV7, I since upgraded, price would be 400.-
including shipping.
Cheers
Franz
On 02/07/11 5:51 PM, "Matt Dralle" wrote:
>
> I have a 1-year old WxWorx REWX9ID USB XM Aircraft Weather and XM Audio
> receiver for sale. It was just removed from my RV-8 and is in perfect working
> order. Includes Antenna, Mount, Receiver Unit, and USB Interface.
>
> It is compatible with the Grand Rapids EFISs and a number of others. Gives
> text and graphical representations of weather including Rain, Wind, Temp, etc.
> Requires separate monthly XM subscription which is not included in this
> offering. Attached are some pictures of the actual unit for sale.
>
> Works great and I wouldn't fly without a similar product. I'm replacing the
> functionality with an ADS-B receiver.
>
> Additional information on the unit can be found here:
>
> https://www.wxworx.com/portable-receiver-overview
> https://www.wxworx.com/interface-modules
>
> Aircraft Spruce has the unit for $595:
>
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/fl190True.php
>
> I will take $400 firm for the unit as shown plus $10 for shipping. First
> come, first served. Email me with questions.
>
> I can accept PayPal http://www.paypal.com using "dralle@matronics.com" or I
> can accept Visa/MC directly. I will take a 2.5% discount for a check, but it
> will have to clear before I ship.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt Dralle
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
Franz Fux
Director of Operations
Last Frontier Heliskiing Ltd.
Bell 2 Lodge
P.O. Box 1237
Vernon, BC, V1T 6N6
CANADA
Office Contact
T: (250) 558-7980
F: (250) 558-7981
Lodge Contact
T: (250) 275-4770
F: (250) 275-4912
http://www.bell2lodge.com
---
LAST FRONTIER Heliskiing
www.lastfrontierheli.com
---
And for some of the best Steelhead Fishing in the world at Bell 2 Lodge
www.steelhead-fishing.net
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... |
Fellow RVers,
If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, check out
the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang leading a flight
of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was rebuilt. But then, what
doesn't... ;-)
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Bose A20 Headset - NR Power Button - Panel Power |
Dear Listers,
I bought a couple pairs of the new Bose A20's for the RV-8 and they are very nice.
NR is better than the Bose X's and they seem to fit my head a little better
too.
But I quickly discovered that with the A20's you now have to hit the NR Power button
*every time* you start the aircraft even if you have them panel powered.
The older Bose X headsets have a slide switch for the NR power and so you can
just put the slide switch in the On position and not worry about it.
I really didn't like having to turn the NR on all the time and having to remind
my passengers about it, so I came up with a modification that will automatically
turn the NR on when panel power is applied. Its pretty simple, but requires
some special tools. Its completely self-contained inside the Control Module
and works great. The modification is generally only for installations that
are panel-powered, but you could do the modification to a unit that is normally
battery powered with no adverse effect. With the modification, the NR Power
button will work normally in battery power installations.
I created web page on the procedure including step-by-step photos and instructions.
Feedback is welcome.
http://www.matronics.com/BoseA20AutoOnModification/
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Reusing 3/8" Flares... |
Dear Listers,
I pulled out all of the fuel selector valve and fuel pump goodies from the old
fuselage today. I disassembled all of the various flare ends and cleaned up all
the Fuel Lube with lacquer thinner making sure not to get any in the pump or
valve or transducers. All but two of the fuel lines seem to be reusable and
don't show any signs of damage from the Mishap. I really don't want to have
to recut, rebend, and reflare all of these if I don't have to.
What's the common knowledge on reusing the flares on the fuel and brake lines?
Am I just asking for a bunch of leaks if I put these back into service now that
I've unscrewed them?
Thanks!
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Bowerman <dbowerman(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Reusing 3/8" Flares... |
Matt
So Sorry to hear about your misshap. Happens to the best of us.
As far as re-using the undamaged tubes and fittings. I have been an A&P for
over 40 years 12 of them teaching aircraft mechanics.-I am also a Mechan
ic's Examiner. Re-using these fittings, as long as there are no scratches o
n the mating surfaces is-standard practice in the industry. That is one o
f the beauties of using the flared fittngs. They can be re-uesed without an
y problems. Soft aluminum seals can also be bought from Aircraft Spruce. I
have never needed to use them so I can't say how good they are.
Good luck on your re-building project.
-
Dave Bowerman
RV-7 tail kit only.
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Matt Dralle wrote:
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Reusing 3/8" Flares...
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 8:02 PM
Dear Listers,
I pulled out all of the fuel selector valve and fuel pump goodies from the
old fuselage today.- I disassembled all of the various flare ends and cle
aned up all the Fuel Lube with lacquer thinner making sure not to get any i
n the pump or valve or transducers.- All but two of the fuel lines seem t
o be reusable and don't show any signs of damage from the Mishap.- I real
ly don't want to have to recut, rebend, and reflare all of these if I don't
have to.-
What's the common knowledge on reusing the flares on the fuel and brake lin
es?
Am I just asking for a bunch of leaks if I put these back into service now
that I've unscrewed them?
Thanks!
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: RV-7 Quick build project for sale |
| From: | "billz" <billz(at)roadrunner.com> |
As you can see, there was over $26,000 spent plus many hours to assemble the empennage
and parts of the fuselage.
The asking price has been updated to $22,500 or best offer. It will be the buyer's
responsibility to arrange for transportation from Sherill, New York.
If you are seriously interested in purchasing this aircraft, Contact Kathy Kelly
at 315-335-0572 or (email) kathyk2009(at)yahoo.com.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346687#346687
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Dear Listers,
The NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver kit arrived today. Included in the box were the
following:
1ea ADS600-B Transceiver Unit
1ea DB37 Connector w/ Shell
2ea RG-142 BNC Antenna Coax Cables (terminated on one end)
1ea Wireless receiver option (802.11)
1ea End User License sheet
1ea Attention Warning sheet
Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
1ea Installation Manual
1ea Instruction Manual
1ea Wiring Diagram
2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
1ea UAT Antenna
1ea GPS Antenna
Attached are a couple of pictures of what I received.
Looking over the NavWorx web site, I'm not finding anywhere to download instruction
manuals or installation manuals. Am I suppose to buy the UAT and GPS antennas
separately? I didn't see these available separately on the NavWorx web
site when I ordered the package.
I called and left NavWorx a voicemail.
At this point, I'm kind at a loss...? :-/
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Don" <dsvs(at)ca.rr.com> |
| Subject: | NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Matt,
When they call you ask them to send the instructions via e-mail. Yes you
have to buy the UAT and GPS ant. I bought the recommended (ask them) UAT
and I got the GPS ant from ACS.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:23 PM
rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives...
Dear Listers,
The NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver kit arrived today. Included in the box
were the following:
1ea ADS600-B Transceiver Unit
1ea DB37 Connector w/ Shell
2ea RG-142 BNC Antenna Coax Cables (terminated on one end)
1ea Wireless receiver option (802.11)
1ea End User License sheet
1ea Attention Warning sheet
Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
1ea Installation Manual
1ea Instruction Manual
1ea Wiring Diagram
2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
1ea UAT Antenna
1ea GPS Antenna
Attached are a couple of pictures of what I received.
Looking over the NavWorx web site, I'm not finding anywhere to download
instruction manuals or installation manuals. Am I suppose to buy the UAT
and GPS antennas separately? I didn't see these available separately on the
NavWorx web site when I ordered the package.
I called and left NavWorx a voicemail.
At this point, I'm kind at a loss...? :-/
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | steve <steve282s(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Don't worry, Matt.- When you finally open up the instructions, if it's li
ke everything else electronic these days, it will read:=0A"Greetings from Y
ingyang.- entanna cord to entanna connect.- put Inside your aeroplane.
- have Happy fly."=0A-=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-rv
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..=0A=0A=0ADear Listers,=0A=0AThe NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver kit arrived
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver Arrives... |
Listers,
I got a voicemail and a nice email from Bill at NavWorx this morning. He confirmed
that the unit doesn't normally come with the antennas anymore, but he graciously
offered to send me a UAT antenna free of charge. That was really nice.
Bill also included the latest version of the installation/operation manual
in PDF format along with his email. He said that they are working on adding the
manuals to the web site, probably in August sometime.
So, I'm good to go. I'll report later on my installation experience. Looking
at the wring diagrams, it seems like it should be pretty straightforward connecting
up between the GRT HX's and the 327.
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
At 07:22 PM 7/19/2011 Tuesday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>The NavWorx ADS600-B Transceiver kit arrived today. Included in the box were
the following:
>
> 1ea ADS600-B Transceiver Unit
> 1ea DB37 Connector w/ Shell
> 2ea RG-142 BNC Antenna Coax Cables (terminated on one end)
> 1ea Wireless receiver option (802.11)
> 1ea End User License sheet
> 1ea Attention Warning sheet
>
>Missing from the package, it seemed to me were:
>
> 1ea Installation Manual
> 1ea Instruction Manual
> 1ea Wiring Diagram
> 2ea BNC connectors for Terminating Antenna Cable
> 1ea UAT Antenna
> 1ea GPS Antenna
>
>Attached are a couple of pictures of what I received.
>
>Looking over the NavWorx web site, I'm not finding anywhere to download instruction
manuals or installation manuals. Am I suppose to buy the UAT and GPS antennas
separately? I didn't see these available separately on the NavWorx web
site when I ordered the package.
>
>I called and left NavWorx a voicemail.
>
>At this point, I'm kind at a loss...? :-/
>
>Matt
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wheel Pants Modification |
At 07:34 AM 7/27/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>Hello Fellow RV-8 Builders, I'm about finished making my intersections and my
hanger mate, the ever evil and diabolical Neil, just modified his RV-9 wheel pants
to incorporate the bottom intersections into one piece (really two pieces,
but one pants) Ever in fear of humiliation from the horde of other RV drivers
at the airport and the shame of having a inadequate and technology flawed design
wheel pants I suppose I need to follow suit. My question is where are the
divider cuts made in the RV-8 intersections when attached permanently to the
wheel pant? Show a photo or two would be appreciated, Bill of Georgia RV-8A,
N288WP, 10 Hrs into Phase l and trying to finish the legs and wheel pants
Hi Bill,
I don't quite follow what you're asking. But, do yourself a huge favor and surf
over to Bob Snedaker's "Fairing Etc" web site and order up a pair of upper and
lower intersection fairings. You'll be glad you did. They fit exceptionally
well and reduce the amount of time spent significantly. More importantly,
when you're done, you'll have an exacting shape match between the left and right
sides. Here's a link to Bob's site:
* https://fairings-etc.com/Intersection_Fairings.html
Here's a step by step of how I did my RV-8 lower fairings using Bob's parts. 13
log entries:
* http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=99660&row=82
Later, I redid the wheel pants and made a blister for the brake caliper which made
them fit a LOT better. I highly recommend this modification. 11 log entries:
* http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=108939&row=17
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker(at)optonline.net> |
| Subject: | Creativair wingtip position/landing lights |
I am starting to install these lights on my wingtips. I purchased them some time
ago and cannot seem to find the installation instructions for the whole assembly.
They are nowhere to be found on the
internet and I have been unable to find instructions there. I have the instructions
on how to assemble the actual LED boards, but not the information about
how all the parts go together. I need to
know how all the screws, springs, washers, etc. go together. Does anyone have
a copy of the instructions for the whole assembly? Or does anyone have a good
picture on their web site? Or one they
can email me.
Thanks, Dick Tasker
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! |
Just a heads up to those installing or planning on installing Bose X or A20 Active
NR headsets using the inline power jacks. Specifically these units:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/aviation_headsets/accessories/headset_installkit_acc.jsp
They now come with only 3 feet of cable! Three years ago they came with 6 feet
of cable and I thought at the time that 6 feet seemed a little short. Now 3
feet? What idiot penny pincher in Bose marketing decided "three feet should be
plenty". Here's quote from the Bose web page above: "Three-foot wiring harness
with six pin female connector allows for *placement in locations throughout
aircraft*." WTF? On what planet will a 3-foot hardness reach "locations throughout
the aircraft". That's just plain stupid.
If these were third rate, el-cheapo headsets, I'd write it off to penny pinching,
but for a >$1000 product that you then have to spend an additional $32 for
an installation cable, cheaping out on the cable length is just simply unacceptable.
I have the jacks mounted in the center of the RV-8, and the cables don't even reach
to the righthand control console. What does Bose expect people to do; splice
the wire? That's ridiculous! What would somebody installing in the back
seats of a 4 or 6 place airplane do?
Of course I wrote a scathing email to Bose Support just now. I'm sure they will
write back with "for most of our customers, three feet is sufficient".
Given this direction within Bose, I'd definitely consider the new Sennheiser S1
if I had to do it over again. Additionally, the Sennheiser's Bluetooth supports
the A2DP, AVRCP STEREO profiles. The Bose A20's Bluetooth does NOT support
stereo. It must have been the same marketing moron that dictated 3' cables
that decided not to include stereo Bluetooth profiles. Unbelievable.
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Bucking Bar Recommendation... |
Dear Listers,
After nearly 23 years of building metal airplanes on and off, I finally came across
a really nice bucking bar. The part number details are below and I've attached
a picture of it with the optional 6.5" Dolly Shank attached (recommended).
The handle has a vibration absorbing mechanism inside and it makes riveting almost
a pleasure. It really works good. I was truly amazed at how much more comfortable
it is riveting using the tool.
If you've got even a modest amount of riveting left to do on your project, surf
over to the US Tool web site and order up one. You won't be sorry!
I don't get any kick back (pun intended) from US Tool; I'm just a very stratified
customer.
US Tool - TP111R - Recoilless Bucking Bar - All Steel:
https://www.ustool.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p 41
US Tool - 31021-3 - 6.5" Dolly Shank:
https://www.ustool.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p 80
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | Bowen Miles <cessna170bdriver(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Bucking Bar Recommendation... |
$233 ???!!!- And I thought tungsten bars were expensive!
-
Miles
--- On Sun, 8/14/11, Matt Dralle wrote:
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Bucking Bar Recommendation...
Date: Sunday, August 14, 2011, 4:08 PM
Dear Listers,
After nearly 23 years of building metal airplanes on and off, I finally cam
e across a really nice bucking bar.- The part number details are below an
d I've attached a picture of it with the optional 6.5" Dolly Shank attached
(recommended).
The handle has a vibration absorbing mechanism inside and it makes riveting
almost a pleasure.- It really works good.- I was truly amazed at how m
uch more comfortable it is riveting using the tool.-
If you've got even a modest amount of riveting left to do on your project,
surf over to the US Tool web site and order up one.- You won't be sorry!
I don't get any kick back (pun intended) from US Tool; I'm just a very stra
tified customer.
US Tool - TP111R - Recoilless Bucking Bar - All Steel:
https://www.ustool.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p 41
US Tool - 31021-3 - 6.5" Dolly Shank:
https://www.ustool.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p 80
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | Don Honabach <don.honabach(at)pcperfect.com> |
| Subject: | Empennage Kit Plus for Sale |
Hey Everyone,
I purchased an empennage kit for the RV-7A about a year or so ago. Life got
in the way and I never got a chance to do anything but look at all the won
derful shiny parts .
After a bit of back forth, I've decided that I'm going to build an RV-8A in
stead. Talked to Van's this morning and there are too many differences in t
he two kits to make it worthwhile trying to salvage the RV-7A Empennage Kit
to work on the RV-8A.
The 7A empennage kit is 100% just as you'd get from Vans. No work has been
done. Great chance to save ~$400 to $500 over the current Van's Price List
for the same parts.
My kit includes the builder's guide/manual, empennage kit, and electronic t
rim. With shipping, creating fees, etc. this was over $2,100. Selling for $
1,600 firm.
For local pickup in the Phoenix, AZ area ONLY. Willing to deliver if in the
valley area if needed. My hangar is currently up at Deer Valley airport (K
DVT) if anyone interested happens to be based there. Always welcome to pick
up at my house in Tempe as well.
Please e-mail me at don.honabach at pcperfect.com if interested.
Thanks!
Don
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-7A Empennage Kit for Sale.... |
At 07:00 PM 8/15/2011 Monday, you wrote:
>Please ignore my last message (sorry). Ive got a couple comments off list that
has me re-thinking the 8A for my particular mission. I need to step back and
re-evaluate for a bit.
>
>Don
Well, at least drop the "A" from the model number! Its not too late! :-)
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | Don Honabach <don.honabach(at)pcperfect.com> |
| Subject: | RV-7A Empennage Kit for Sale.... |
I was already worried that I'd start up a storm of "this model is better than that
model" type of comments with my post. There is no way I'm touching on the
merits of non-A's versus A models .
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: RV-7A Empennage Kit for Sale....
At 07:00 PM 8/15/2011 Monday, you wrote:
>Please ignore my last message (sorry). I?ve got a couple comments off list that
has me re-thinking the 8A for my particular mission. I need to step back and
re-evaluate for a bit.
>
>Don
Well, at least drop the "A" from the model number! Its not too late! :-)
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | "Don Owens" <springcanyon(at)methow.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-7A Empennage Kit for Sale.... |
I ordered, and began building the empennage for an RV-8. Someone near and
dear, objected to the tandem seating of the -8 so I changed my order to a
RV-7. I was able to modify the horizontal stabilizer to the -7
configuration and salvage the work already done. I'm not sure it would work
the other way around, however.
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Honabach
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: RE: RV7-List: RV-7A Empennage Kit for Sale....
I was already worried that I'd start up a storm of "this model is better
than that model" type of comments with my post. There is no way I'm touching
on the merits of non-A's versus A models .
Don
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: RV-7A Empennage Kit for Sale....
At 07:00 PM 8/15/2011 Monday, you wrote:
>Please ignore my last message (sorry). I?ve got a couple comments off list
>that has me re-thinking the 8A for my particular mission. I need to step
>back and re-evaluate for a bit.
>
>Don
Well, at least drop the "A" from the model number! Its not too late! :-)
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Circuit Protection |
At 10:18 AM 8/24/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm looking really hard at using
the VP-X for circuit protection with a few exceptions now that Dynon Skyview is
compatible. A little spendy, but I like the features and wiring simplifications
it offers. An electrical whiz I ain't. Any personal experience out there
I can tap into? So far I haven't seen anything I would call really negative,
but I'm going to have to raise my confidence level a bit more before I lock
in a decision. In the meantime, I occasionally take a break from hammers and
hacksaws and spend some time on electrical schematics. Good mental exercise,
but I'd like to minimize the iterations.
>
>Stan Loer
>RV-8 QB
Hi Stan,
You might want to seriously consider the Vertical Power VP-200 system over the
VP-x. Its a fair amount more expensive, but it adds a LOT of additional functionality.
Depending on your compliment of accessories, the VP-200 will almost
completely eliminate the need for SWITCHES of any kind. This makes for a really
clean panel. I've flow with the VP-200 in my RV-8 for 170 hours and haven't
had a single issue with it and frankly can't imagine flying without it.
The VP-x uses the same electronic breaker technology found in the VP-200, but still
requires individual, low current switches to switch the various circuits
on and off (e.g. landing light, etc.). With the VP-200, all of that is done automatically
based on the autodetected mode of flight (Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruse,
etc). Basically, you get in the plane, push the "ON" button, and you never
have to think about switches again. You can still manually select the mode
and/or manually turn individually turn circuits on/off if you need to. Love
it.
I highly recommend the VP-200 system from Vertical Power.
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Circuit Protection |
I was one of the early adopters of the VP system, though -- being a working
stiff, I ended up going with the VP-50, since discontinued in favor of the
VPX. The principle is certainly the same, so you may want to look at this
article I wrote:
http://rvbuildershotline.com/articles/2010/vp50.html
The biggest thing I like about it is I - like you- am not an electrical
engineer and I didn't want my panel loaded up with circuit breakers. The VP
system is simple: Wire to it with the supplied wire, configure, done.
As far as the VP-200, yeah, if you've got the trust fund, it's definitely
the way to go (g). It's a wonderful piece of machinery. Here's some
background an interview I did with Marc when it first came on the scene:
http://rvbuildershotline.com/articles/2008/vertical_power.html
The service from VP is top notch. It's a great company. There's nothing I
can think of that I would say to dissuade you from going that route.
Bob Collins
RV-7A
St. Paul, MN.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2011 11:57 AM
rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Circuit Protection
At 10:18 AM 8/24/2011 Wednesday, you wrote:
>I won't be writing the check for awhile, but I'm looking really hard at
using the VP-X for circuit protection with a few exceptions now that Dynon
Skyview is compatible. A little spendy, but I like the features and wiring
simplifications it offers. An electrical whiz I ain't. Any personal
experience out there I can tap into? So far I haven't seen anything I would
call really negative, but I'm going to have to raise my confidence level a
bit more before I lock in a decision. In the meantime, I occasionally take
a break from hammers and hacksaws and spend some time on electrical
schematics. Good mental exercise, but I'd like to minimize the iterations.
>
>Stan Loer
>RV-8 QB
Hi Stan,
You might want to seriously consider the Vertical Power VP-200 system over
the VP-x. Its a fair amount more expensive, but it adds a LOT of additional
functionality. Depending on your compliment of accessories, the VP-200 will
almost completely eliminate the need for SWITCHES of any kind. This makes
for a really clean panel. I've flow with the VP-200 in my RV-8 for 170
hours and haven't had a single issue with it and frankly can't imagine
flying without it.
The VP-x uses the same electronic breaker technology found in the VP-200,
but still requires individual, low current switches to switch the various
circuits on and off (e.g. landing light, etc.). With the VP-200, all of
that is done automatically based on the autodetected mode of flight (Taxi,
Runup, Takeoff, Cruse, etc). Basically, you get in the plane, push the "ON"
button, and you never have to think about switches again. You can still
manually select the mode and/or manually turn individually turn circuits
on/off if you need to. Love it.
I highly recommend the VP-200 system from Vertical Power.
Matt
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| From: | "Ray" <NH26Granite(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | RV-7A tail and wing kit and tools for sale |
RV-7A project for sale because of medical reasons. Empennage 90%
completed at SportAir workshop in Griffin GA. Electric trim, need to
attach elevators, rudder, and glass tips. Wing kit in boxes as shipped,
inventoried. Avery bare bones toolkit plus DRDT2 simpler, extra yoke.
Asking $8000. Live in southern NH. Contact Ray's Email
NH26Granite(at)comcast.net
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| From: | "Richard E. Tasker" <retasker(at)optonline.net> |
| Subject: | Stiff slider on RV9 |
I am having difficulty with the canopy on my 9A. What happens is that it is essentially
impossible to start it sliding from the closed position.
I thought it was the rear pin blocks that were binding, but it does the same thing
with them completely removed.
If I am inside, I can get it started by slightly pushing up on the rear. From the
outside, the only way is to pull up on the rear. Since the canopy rear skirts
are not yet installed that is now
possible, but when they are installed it will be impossible. Once I get it to move
about 1/2 - 1 inch, then it moves back easily.
I have checked everything I can think of and everything seems to be spot on, but
I am obviously missing something.
Has anyone run into this problem? Does anyone have suggestions as to what I should
look for?
Dick Tasker
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| From: | Bill Schoen <flybill2usa(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Stiff slider on RV9 |
Dick I too had a terrible time with my RV-7 slider. Very stiff. Its been a
while but I think I ended up tweeking the forward frame curve more even a
fter it was drilled for the canopy plastic which is a no/no due to posssibl
ilty of cracking that forward canopy frame arch. I had a devil of a time ge
tting the frame to fit the rails. It was either too wide or too narrow=2C f
inally it just got better but is still a little stiffer than I would like
=2C but it is free enough to work. Not a great design but I don't know of a
ny way to make it better which I know isn't much help other than to know yo
u are not alone. I suspect everbody had a tough time. perhaps you can get b
etter help/ideas from someone else. It wasn't the roller assembly or the af
t end in my case.Simply a bad fitting canopy forward frame to rail. Seems t
he rails were too narrow for the frame but i couldn't move them out board m
uch due to my fuselage width. Maybe I built the whole fuselage too narrow??
Doesn't seem logical as everything else fit fine. Bill SchoenRV7 finish ki
t
> Date: Mon=2C 19 Sep 2011 22:06:11 -0400
> From: retasker(at)optonline.net
> Subject: RV7-List: Stiff slider on RV9
> To:
>
et>
>
> I am having difficulty with the canopy on my 9A. What happens is that it
is essentially impossible to start it sliding from the closed position.
>
> I thought it was the rear pin blocks that were binding=2C but it does the
same thing with them completely removed.
>
> If I am inside=2C I can get it started by slightly pushing up on the rear
. From the outside=2C the only way is to pull up on the rear. Since the can
opy rear skirts are not yet installed that is now
> possible=2C but when they are installed it will be impossible. Once I get
it to move about 1/2 - 1 inch=2C then it moves back easily.
>
> I have checked everything I can think of and everything seems to be spot
on=2C but I am obviously missing something.
>
> Has anyone run into this problem? Does anyone have suggestions as to what
I should look for?
>
> Dick Tasker
>
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however=2C
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| Subject: | Free RV Weight and balance program |
| From: | "greghale" <ghale5224(at)aol.com> |
Hi Guys,
I have finally released the new RV weight and balance program. The program will
work for all RVs except for the RV3 and RV12. If there are any RV12 drivers
that would like to have their aircraft included in the program, drop me an email
and I will include it.
The program should be pretty straight forward on the operation, but I would suggest
you also print the available 9 page Operation Manual on the web site. The
beauty of the program is it will not only show you what your CG is at takeoff,
but it will also tell you the CG at the arrival airport. Some owners may be
surprised the change in the CG during your flight.
The program is absolutely free. This is my contribution to the RV community that
I really enjoy.
You can go directly to this site to install the program. If you do get an error
message trying to use the Run feature, try using the Save feature. That will
download the file to your computer. You can then use that file to install the
program.
http://nwacaptain.com/10weightandbalance.html
Greg.
www.nwacaptain.com
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353732#353732
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| From: | rvaitor(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Free RV Weight and balance program |
This program is PC only, no web based version?
Shelby Smith
----- Original Message -----
From: "greghale" <ghale5224(at)aol.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:09:51 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Free RV Weight and balance program
Hi Guys,
I have finally released the new RV weight and balance program. The program
will work for all RV=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s except for the RV3 and RV12.
If there are any RV12 drivers that would like to have their aircraft includ
ed in the program, drop me an email and I will include it.
The program should be pretty straight forward on the operation, but I would
suggest you also print the available 9 page Operation Manual on the web si
te. The beauty of the program is it will not only show you what your CG is
at takeoff, but it will also tell you the CG at the arrival airport. Some o
wners may be surprised the change in the CG during your flight.
The program is absolutely free. This is my contribution to the RV community
that I really enjoy.
You can go directly to this site to install the program. If you do get an e
rror message trying to use the =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93Run=C3=A2=82=AC=EF
=BD feature, try using the =C3=A2=82=AC=C5=93Save=C3=A2=82=AC=EF
=BD feature. That will download the file to your computer. You can then
use that file to install the program.
http://nwacaptain.com/10weightandbalance.html
Greg=C3=A2=82=AC=C2.
www.nwacaptain.com
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353732#353732
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| Subject: | Re: Free RV Weight and balance program |
| From: | "greghale" <ghale5224(at)aol.com> |
Yes--
Will only work on PC. It is possible Mac users may be able to get the program
to operate on their computers.
Greg...
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Greg Hale rv10 -- N210KH
www.nwacaptain.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353746#353746
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| From: | "Herb Feldman" <az944(at)lafn.org> |
| Subject: | Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach
bolt on the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the
right wing. This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure,
the most difficult to get a wrench on its nut.
I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the
main spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and
loosened the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed.
But, no luck. it just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the
1/2 drive ratchet the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Herb
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| From: | "bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I believe
I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking bar, I
forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on very low
pressure.
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Herb Feldman <az944(at)lafn.org>
Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00
Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt on
the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right wing.
This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the most
difficult to get a wrench on its nut.
I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the main
spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and loosened
the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed. But, no luck.
it just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 drive ratchet
the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Herb
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| From: | Herb Feldman <hfaz(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in further
with a rivet gun, but no luck.=C2- I am wondering=C2-while the threade
d part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of the gear att
achment, can the shank, which is a little greater in diameter than the thre
ads, be to big to go through the hole?=C2- As I said, the bolt on the oth
er wing worked OK.=C2-=C2-=C2-I'll keep trying.=0AHerb=0A=0AFrom: "bc
ollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" =0ATo: rv7-list@matronics
.com=0ASent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: In
stalling wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0AAre you saying it's the bolt head that
's 1/4" from the main spar? I believe I got a flat screwdriver or some othe
r object -- maybe a bucking bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber ma
llet or a rivet gun set on very low pressure.=0A=0AConnected by DROID on Ve
rizon Wireless=0A=0A-----Original message-----=0A=0AFrom: Herb Feldman <az9
44(at)lafn.org>=0A>To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0A>Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:
01 GMT+00:00=0A>Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>=0A>
=0A>I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bo
lt on the left wing.=C2- I had no problem with the similar bolt on the ri
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the most difficult to get a wrench on its nut.=C2-=0A>I=C2-oiled the bo
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can not wrench any more.=C2- I tried wiggling the wing and=C2-loosened
the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed.=C2- But, no
luck. it just won't turn.=C2- I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 d
rive ratchet the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.=C2- =0A
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| From: | Francis Herr <fherr(at)cfl.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
Did you happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the
individual components before integrating them? I would probably remove
the wing and try if not.
Also, have you been using a standard bolt (maybe with a "bullet shaped
end") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of each of the two
sizes on a wing.
Francis
On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:
Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in
further with a rivet gun, but no luck. I am wondering while the
threaded part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of
the gear attachment, can the shank, which is a little greater in
diameter than the threads, be to big to go through the hole? As I said,
the bolt on the other wing worked OK. I'll keep trying.
Herb
From: "bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I
believe I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking
bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set
on very low pressure.
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Herb Feldman <az944(at)lafn.org>
Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00
Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach
bolt on the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the
right wing. This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure,
the most difficult to get a wrench on its nut.
I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the
main spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and
loosened the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed.
But, no luck. it just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the
1/2 drive ratchet the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Herb
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| From: | "Watson, Stephen H (313A)" <stephen.h.watson(at)jpl.nasa.gov> |
| Subject: | Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
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| From: | Herb Feldman <hfaz(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
I am using standard bolts for alligning.=C2- Remove the wing, hmm, how ca
n I get the that bolt out that's already=C2-through the spar and up to th
e gear plate?=0AThanks=C2- - Herb=C2-=0A=0AFrom: Francis Herr <fherr@cf
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:55 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0ADid
you happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the individ
ual components before integrating them?=C2-I would probably remove the wi
ng and try if not. =0A=0AAlso, have you been using a standard bolt (maybe w
ith a "bullet shaped end") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of e
ach of the two sizes on a wing.=0A=0AFrancis=0A=0A=0AOn Oct 6, 2011, at 3:4
4 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:=0A=0AYes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar
. I tried tapping it in further with a rivet gun, but no luck.=C2- I am w
ondering=C2-while the threaded part of the bolt goes through the hole in
the steel plate of the gear attachment, can the shank, which is a little gr
eater in diameter than the threads, be to big to go through the hole?=C2-
As I said, the bolt on the other wing worked OK.=C2-=C2-=C2-I'll kee
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t.net>=0ATo: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58
PM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0AAre you
saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I believe I got
a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking bar, I forget --
and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on very low pressure
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=0A>Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00=0A>Subject: RV7-List: Install
ing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>=0A>=0A>I am having a problem trying to seat the
lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt on the left wing.=C2- I had no problem
with the similar bolt on the right wing.=C2- This is the bolt that's behi
nd the landing gear structure, the most difficult to get a wrench on its nu
t.=C2-=0A>I=C2-oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 in
ch from the main spar,=C2-but can not wrench any more.=C2- I tried wigg
ling the wing and=C2-loosened the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only othe
r bolt installed.=C2- But, no luck. it just won't turn.=C2- I hate to p
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| From: | Dan Reeves <n516dr(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
Is that the first and only bolt you have semi-in for that wing so far? If s
o perhaps installing a couple of the other bolts will better align things su
ch that original bolt will slide through. I used a couple of hardware store
bolts with the threads ground off to align things and left those in while i
nstalling the other close tolerance bolts. By that point it was fairly easy
to pull out the make-shift pins and slide in the final close tolerance bolt
s. Maybe that first bolt is pinched a bit if it's the only one in so far an
d perhaps installing the other bolts will bring things into better alignment
and allow it to slide the rest of the way through. Don't forget to start t
hreading the nut as soon as you have one or two treads through for those low
er bolts. Otherwise If you push them all the way through there won't be en
ough clearance to install the nuts. Good luck!
Dan Reeves
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:
> I am using standard bolts for alligning. Remove the wing, hmm, how can I g
et the that bolt out that's already through the spar and up to the gear plat
e?
> Thanks - Herb
>
> From: Francis Herr <fherr(at)cfl.rr.com>
> To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
>
> Did you happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the in
dividual components before integrating them? I would probably remove the win
g and try if not.
>
> Also, have you been using a standard bolt (maybe with a "bullet shaped end
") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of each of the two sizes on a
wing.
>
> Francis
>
> On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:
>
> Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in furthe
r with a rivet gun, but no luck. I am wondering while the threaded part of t
he bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of the gear attachment, can
the shank, which is a little greater in diameter than the threads, be to bi
g to go through the hole? As I said, the bolt on the other wing worked OK.
I'll keep trying.
> Herb
>
> From: "bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net>
> To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM
> Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
>
> Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I believ
e I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking bar, I fo
rget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on very low pr
essure.
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Herb Feldman <az944(at)lafn.org>
> To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00
> Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
>
> I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt o
n the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right wing.
This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the most difficu
lt to get a wrench on its nut.
> I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the main
spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and loosened t
he 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed. But, no luck. i
t just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 drive ratchet t
he I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
> Herb
>
>
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| From: | Francis Herr <fherr(at)cfl.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
Not likely but: make sure your main gear leg mounts are part number
WD-721 (RV7A) and not part number WD-921 (RV9A). The parts have been
mixed up at Van's in the past, especially early on in shipments.
The RV7A gear mounts have three large holes and one much smaller hole in
the top, while the RV9A mounts have just 3 large holes in the top. They
are very close in specifications and look interchangeable; but, are not.
Francis
On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:
Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in
further with a rivet gun, but no luck. I am wondering while the
threaded part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of
the gear attachment, can the shank, which is a little greater in
diameter than the threads, be to big to go through the hole? As I said,
the bolt on the other wing worked OK. I'll keep trying.
Herb
From: "bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I
believe I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking
bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set
on very low pressure.
Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Herb Feldman <az944(at)lafn.org>
Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00
Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach
bolt on the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the
right wing. This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure,
the most difficult to get a wrench on its nut.
I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the
main spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and
loosened the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed.
But, no luck. it just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the
1/2 drive ratchet the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Herb
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| From: | Herb Feldman <hfaz(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
I installed the remaining wing bolts, and it did loosen up the tight bolt e
nough to get it seated.=C2- Thanks Dan, and the rest of the group for the
help.=0AHerb=0A=0AFrom: Dan Reeves <n516dr(at)yahoo.com>=0ATo: "rv7-list@matr
onics.com" =0ASent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 6:59
PM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0AIs that
the first and only bolt you have semi-in for that wing so far? =C2-If so
perhaps installing a couple of the other bolts will better align things suc
h that original bolt will slide through. =C2-I used a couple of hardware
store bolts with the threads ground off to align things and left those in w
hile installing the other close tolerance bolts. =C2-By that point it was
fairly easy to pull out the make-shift pins and slide in the final close t
olerance bolts. =C2-Maybe that first bolt is pinched a bit if it's the on
ly one in so far and perhaps installing the other bolts will bring things i
nto better alignment and allow it to slide the rest of the way through. =C2
-Don't forget to start threading the nut as soon as you have one or two t
reads through for those lower bolts. =C2-Otherwise If you push them all t
he way through there won't =C2-be enough clearance to install the nuts.
=C2-Good luck!=0A=0ADan Reeves=0A=0ASent from my iPad=0A=0AOn Oct 6, 2011
, at 6:12 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:=0A=0A=0AI am using stand
ard bolts for alligning.=C2- Remove the wing, hmm, how can I get the that
bolt out that's already=C2-through the spar and up to the gear plate?=0A
>Thanks=C2- - Herb=C2-=0A>=0A>=0A>From: Francis Herr <fherr(at)cfl.rr.com>
=0A>To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0A>Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:55 PM
=0A>Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>=0A>=0A>Did yo
u happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the individua
l components before integrating them?=C2-I would probably remove the wing
and try if not. =0A>=0A>=0A>Also, have you been using a standard bolt (may
be with a "bullet shaped end") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts
of each of the two sizes on a wing.=0A>=0A>=0A>Francis=0A>=0A>=0A>On Oct 6,
2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:=0A>=0A>Yes the bolt head is 1/4" fro
m the main spar. I tried tapping it in further with a rivet gun, but no luc
k.=C2- I am wondering=C2-while the threaded part of the bolt goes throu
gh the hole in the steel plate of the gear attachment, can the shank, which
is a little greater in diameter than the threads, be to big to go through
the hole?=C2- As I said, the bolt on the other wing worked OK.=C2-=C2
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sday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM=0A>Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bol
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ybe a bucking bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rive
t gun set on very low pressure.=0A>=0A>Connected by DROID on Verizon Wirele
ss=0A>=0A>-----Original message-----=0A>=0A>From: Herb Feldman <az944@lafn.
org>=0A>>To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0A>>Sent: Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT
+00:00=0A>>Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>
I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt o
n the left wing.=C2- I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right
wing.=C2- This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the
most difficult to get a wrench on its nut.=C2-=0A>>I=C2-oiled the bolt,
and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the main spar,=C2-but ca
n not wrench any more.=C2- I tried wiggling the wing and=C2-loosened th
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Slobovia Outernational Pumpkin Drop 2011 |
Hi guys,
I hope you can make it to Slobovia on Nov 5 for our annual Pumpkin Drop.
Cajun gumbo (& chili for those who can't handle the gumbo) at noon, &
bombing commences at 1:30.
Location info on the attached poster, or email/call me for detailed info.
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
| From: | Dan Bergeron <dan.pat.b(at)gmail.com> |
Hi Herb:
Good morning - glad you got that bolt seated and are on your way. Have a
great first flight and fly safe.
Maybe I missed it in all the discussion but I don't recall seeing any
mention of a procedure we used when my mentor and I installed the wings on
my RV-7A in July 09 - i.e., shrinking the bolts with liquid nitrogen. I
bought a container (they don't call it "can" but I can't recall the correct
word at the moment - it looks a little like an old fashioned milk can) from
a local industrial gas supply house and cold soaked the bolts for several
minutes before installing them - it shrinks them down enough to make a
difference - a couple thousands of an inch I suppose.
Dan Bergeron - Chicopee, MA
RV-7A - N307TB
263 hours since
first flight 08/04/09
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:
> I installed the remaining wing bolts, and it did loosen up the tight bolt
> enough to get it seated. Thanks Dan, and the rest of the group for the
> help.
> Herb
>
> *From:* Dan Reeves
> *To:* "rv7-list(at)matronics.com"
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2011 6:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
>
> Is that the first and only bolt you have semi-in for that wing so far?
> If so perhaps installing a couple of the other bolts will better align
> things such that original bolt will slide through. I used a couple of
> hardware store bolts with the threads ground off to align things and left
> those in while installing the other close tolerance bolts. By that point
it
> was fairly easy to pull out the make-shift pins and slide in the final cl
ose
> tolerance bolts. Maybe that first bolt is pinched a bit if it's the only
> one in so far and perhaps installing the other bolts will bring things in
to
> better alignment and allow it to slide the rest of the way through. Don'
t
> forget to start threading the nut as soon as you have one or two treads
> through for those lower bolts. Otherwise If you push them all the way
> through there won't be enough clearance to install the nuts. Good luck!
>
> Dan Reeves
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:
>
> I am using standard bolts for alligning. Remove the wing, hmm, how can
> I get the that bolt out that's already through the spar and up to the gea
r
> plate?
> Thanks - Herb
>
> *From:* Francis Herr
> *To:* rv7-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 6, 2011 12:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
>
> Did you happen to check whether the close tolerance bolts would fit the
> individual components before integrating them? I would probably remove th
e
> wing and try if not.
>
> Also, have you been using a standard bolt (maybe with a "bullet shaped
> end") to align all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of each of the two size
s
> on a wing.
>
> Francis
>
> On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:
>
> Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried tapping it in
> further with a rivet gun, but no luck. I am wondering while the threaded
> part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel plate of the gear
> attachment, can the shank, which is a little greater in diameter than the
> threads, be to big to go through the hole? As I said, the bolt on the ot
her
> wing worked OK. I'll keep trying.
> Herb
>
> *From:* " bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" <
> bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net>
> *To:* rv7-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:58 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
>
> Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I
> believe I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking
> bar, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on
> very low pressure.
>
> *Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless*
>
>
> -----Original message-----
>
> *From: *Herb Feldman < <az944(at)lafn.org>az944(at)lafn.org>*
> To: * rv7-list(at)matronics.com*
> Sent: *Wed, Oct 5, 2011 22:32:01 GMT+00:00*
> Subject: *RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A
>
> I am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bol
t
> on the left wing. I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right
> wing. This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the mos
t
> difficult to get a wrench on its nut.
> I oiled the bolt, and can wrench it to within about 1/4 inch from the mai
n
> spar, but can not wrench any more. I tried wiggling the wing and loosene
d
> the 1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed. But, no luc
k.
> it just won't turn. I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 drive ratch
et
> the I am using for fear of distorting the bolt head.
> Any ideas would be appreciated.
> Herb
>
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| From: | Herb Feldman <hfaz(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A |
Dan - I didn't hear about liquid nitrogen, however, someone suggested to so
ak them using dry ice from he local super market.=C2- Vans recommended to
put the easier, upper=C2-bolts in first to establish the wing hole posit
ions.=C2- Were I to do it again, I would start with upper bolts first.=0A
Herb=0A=0AFrom: Dan Bergeron <dan.pat.b(at)gmail.com>=0ATo: rv7-list@matronics
.com=0ASent: Monday, October 17, 2011 5:03 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV7-List: Inst
alling wing bolts on RV-7A=0A=0A=0A=C2-Hi Herb: =0AGood morning - glad yo
u got that bolt seated and are on your way. =C2-Have a great first flight
and fly safe.=0AMaybe I missed it in all the discussion but I don't recall
seeing any mention of a procedure =C2-we used when my mentor and I insta
lled the wings on my RV-7A in July 09 - i.e., shrinking the bolts with liqu
id nitrogen. =C2-I bought a container (they don't call it "can" but I can
't recall the correct word at the moment - it looks a little like an old fa
shioned milk can) from a local industrial gas supply house and cold soaked
the bolts for several minutes before installing them - it shrinks them down
enough to make a difference - a couple thousands of an inch I suppose. =C2
-=0ADan Bergeron - Chicopee, MA=0ARV-7A - =C2-N307TB=0A263 hours since
=0A=C2- =C2- =C2-first flight 08/04/09 =C2- =C2-=C2-=0A=0A=0AOn
Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:=0A=0AI
installed the remaining wing bolts, and it did loosen up the tight bolt eno
ugh to get it seated.=C2- Thanks Dan, and the rest of the group for the h
elp.=0A>Herb=0A>=0A>=0A>From: Dan Reeves <n516dr(at)yahoo.com>=0A>To: "rv7-lis
t(at)matronics.com" =0A>Sent: Thursday, October 6, 201
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=0A>Is that the first and only bolt you have semi-in for that wing so far?
=C2-If so perhaps installing a couple of the other bolts will better alig
n things such that original bolt will slide through. =C2-I used a couple
of hardware store bolts with the threads ground off to align things and lef
t those in while installing the other close tolerance bolts. =C2-By that
point it was fairly easy to pull out the make-shift pins and slide in the f
inal close tolerance bolts. =C2-Maybe that first bolt is pinched a bit if
it's the only one in so far and perhaps installing the other bolts will br
ing things into better alignment and allow it to slide the rest of the way
through. =C2-Don't forget to start threading the nut as soon as you have
one or two treads through for those lower bolts. =C2-Otherwise If you pus
h them all the way through there won't =C2-be enough clearance to install
the nuts. =C2-Good luck!=0A>=0A>=0A>Dan Reeves=0A>=0A>Sent from my iPad
=0A>=0A>On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Herb Feldman wrote:=0A
>=0A>=0A>I am using standard bolts for alligning.=C2- Remove the wing, hm
m, how can I get the that bolt out that's already=C2-through the spar and
up to the gear plate?=0A>>Thanks=C2- - Herb=C2-=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>From: Fr
ancis Herr =0A>>To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0A>>Sent: Thur
sday, October 6, 2011 12:55 PM=0A>>Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing b
olts on RV-7A=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Did you happen to check whether the close toler
ance bolts would fit the individual components before integrating them?=C2
-I would probably remove the wing and try if not. =0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Also, ha
ve you been using a standard bolt (maybe with a "bullet shaped end") to ali
gn all the holes. I used 4 such bolts of each of the two sizes on a wing.
=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>Francis=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>On Oct 6, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Herb Feldm
an wrote:=0A>>=0A>>Yes the bolt head is 1/4" from the main spar. I tried ta
pping it in further with a rivet gun, but no luck.=C2- I am wondering=C2
-while the threaded part of the bolt goes through the hole in the steel p
late of the gear attachment, can the shank, which is a little greater in di
ameter than the threads, be to big to go through the hole?=C2- As I said,
the bolt on the other wing worked OK.=C2-=C2-=C2-I'll keep trying.
=0A>>Herb=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>From: "bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a@comc
ast.net>=0A>>To: rv7-list(at)matronics.com=0A>>Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 201
1 3:58 PM=0A>>Subject: Re: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>>=0A
>>=0A>>Are you saying it's the bolt head that's 1/4" from the main spar? I
believe I got a flat screwdriver or some other object -- maybe a bucking ba
r, I forget -- and tapped it with a rubber mallet or a rivet gun set on ver
y low pressure.=0A>>=0A>>Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless=0A>>=0A>>--
---Original message-----=0A>>=0A>>From: Herb Feldman <az944(at)lafn.org>=0A>>>
=0A>>>Subject: RV7-List: Installing wing bolts on RV-7A=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>I
am having a problem trying to seat the lower left 7/16 wing attach bolt on
the left wing.=C2- I had no problem with the similar bolt on the right wi
ng.=C2- This is the bolt that's behind the landing gear structure, the mo
st difficult to get a wrench on its nut.=C2-=0A>>>I=C2-oiled the bolt,
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not wrench any more.=C2- I tried wiggling the wing and=C2-loosened the
1/4 bolt next to it, it's the only other bolt installed.=C2- But, no luc
k. it just won't turn.=C2- I hate to put a long pipe on the the 1/2 drive
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!! |
Dear Listers,
This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been
running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great friends over
the years and had countless email and personal conversations with builders
about aircraft building and flying. What a great community of people! The advice,
support, and friendship has be invaluable over the years.
To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each November
I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the Contributions of List
members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising
to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing
banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web
site pages including:
* Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com
* Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search
* Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
* Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com
You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience
that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - airplanes!
During the month of November, I will be sending out List messages every couple
of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular
messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year we've got another terrific line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. Many of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists
and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
* Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
* Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, and Andy for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
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I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-8 Builder (and Rebuilder) and Flyer
RV-6 Rebuilder and Flyer
RV-4 Builder
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
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I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Greg Thompson <gregb1b1(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Quite frankly, I am surprised that anyone would fincancially support
this list.
Your very obnoxoius replies to the kist, several time a year, stating
that you don't want to see x- size photo's, you don't want to see blah
blah=85 seem to limit ant real interaction here. I'm actually
unsubscribing, not contributing.
Too bad, as this could be a great place for dialogue. Instead it's a
waste of space in my inbox.
Greg Thompson
1-888-296-6459
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| From: | "bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net" <bcollinsrv7a(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for over 21 years (yeah, I really
said *21* years) worth of on line archive data available for instant search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining
the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these aspects of Matronics List services.
Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the
best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb(at)sasktel.net> |
My RV7A, after nearly nine years, is just about ready to fly. I have been taxiing
around and managed to iron out a couple of small bugs. The only big hurdle
left is the final inspection. I think I have all the paperwork in order but there
is one conundrum.
An old boss once told me if you copy someones work it is plagiarism; if you use
more than one source it is research. I have done extensive research and with
my own input have come up with Normal Operating Checklists (one page two sides),
Emergency Checklists (two pages totaling 3 sides) and a Pilots Operating Handbook
(now at 100+ pages and growing).
In my Emergency Checklists I have three occasions; for CARBON MONOXIDE FUMES, CABIN
SMOKE REMOVAL and DITCHING, where I have stated either Canopy.... Unlatch
or Canopy.... Slightly Open. Then, I added a WARNING... Unlatching the canopy
in flight may result in separation of the canopy from the aircraft.
What do we know about flying an RV6, RV7 or RV9 with the canopy open? Has anyone
ever done this? Has anyone ever intentionally opened the canopy in flight? Has
anyone ever had a canopy separation from the aircraft? This is again just part
of the research.
Regards
David Lamb
RV7A
C-FLAM almost ready to fly
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358061#358061
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| From: | Franz Fux <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
I assume that you are talking about a slider. I had mine open up once just
after take off, due to me not following the checklist. It opened up about
15cm and then stopped. I could close it with one hand, after stabilizing the
aircraft in cruise flight. On the other hand we had a crash of an RV9 at a
neighboring field due to the same oversight, details not known to me
Cheers
Franz
RV7A 600h
On 15/11/11 2:46 PM, "RV7ASask" wrote:
>
> My RV7A, after nearly nine years, is just about ready to fly. I have been
> taxiing around and managed to iron out a couple of small bugs. The only big
> hurdle left is the final inspection. I think I have all the paperwork in order
> but there is one conundrum.
>
> An old boss once told me if you copy someones work it is plagiarism; if you
> use more than one source it is research. I have done extensive research and
> with my own input have come up with Normal Operating Checklists (one
> page two sides), Emergency Checklists (two pages totaling 3 sides) and a
> Pilots Operating Handbook (now at 100+ pages and growing).
>
> In my Emergency Checklists I have three occasions; for CARBON
> MONOXIDE FUMES, CABIN SMOKE REMOVAL and DITCHING, where I have
> stated either Canopy.... Unlatch or Canopy.... Slightly Open.
> Then, I added a WARNING... Unlatching the canopy in flight may result in
> separation of the canopy from the aircraft.
>
> What do we know about flying an RV6, RV7 or RV9 with the canopy open? Has
> anyone ever done this? Has anyone ever intentionally opened the canopy in
> flight? Has anyone ever had a canopy separation from the aircraft? This is
> again just part of the research.
>
> Regards
>
> David Lamb
> RV7A
> C-FLAM almost ready to fly
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358061#358061
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland(at)bellsouth.net> |
On 11/15/2011 4:46 PM, RV7ASask wrote:
> --> RV7-List message posted by: "RV7ASask"
>
> My RV7A, after nearly nine years, is just about ready to fly. I have been taxiing
around and managed to iron out a couple of small bugs. The only big hurdle
left is the final inspection. I think I have all the paperwork in order but
there is one conundrum.
>
> An old boss once told me if you copy someones work it is plagiarism; if you use
more than one source it is research. I have done extensive research and with
my own input have come up with Normal Operating Checklists (one page two sides),
Emergency Checklists (two pages totaling 3 sides) and a Pilots Operating
Handbook (now at 100+ pages and growing).
>
> In my Emergency Checklists I have three occasions; for CARBON MONOXIDE FUMES,
CABIN SMOKE REMOVAL and DITCHING, where I have stated either Canopy.... Unlatch
or Canopy.... Slightly Open. Then, I added a WARNING... Unlatching the canopy
in flight may result in separation of the canopy from the aircraft.
>
> What do we know about flying an RV6, RV7 or RV9 with the canopy open? Has anyone
ever done this? Has anyone ever intentionally opened the canopy in flight?
Has anyone ever had a canopy separation from the aircraft? This is again just
part of the research.
>
> Regards
>
> David Lamb
> RV7A
> C-FLAM almost ready to fly
I don't think you will have any major issues (except underwear
laundering) with either the tipup or slider. Sliders will typically open
a few inches & you can't force them any farther open while at normal
speeds. Tipups will rise a few inches in the rear (no more) & can't be
pulled closed unless you slow down a lot & deploy the flaps.
I've seen some forum chatter supporting my slider statement, but I can't
point you to any slider references (checking with Van's is always the
best policy on safety issues anyway). A friend has tested the tipup
(can't remember if it was a 6A or 9A; he's built both). He got the
results detailed above.
The -4 with tipover is another matter entirely. If the safety doesn't
catch it, it will 'unzip' the hinge rivets. (This is a design feature to
allow the canopy to depart if the occupants need to follow.)
Hope that helps,
Charlie
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| From: | "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb(at)sasktel.net> |
Thanks for the comments. My 7A is a slider.
David
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=358073#358073
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Your Contributions
alone keep these services up and running.
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Darrell Reiley <lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo.com> |
Please Unsubscribe me at this time.=0A-=0ADarrell
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| From: | Richard Tasker <retasker(at)optonline.net> |
Actually you have to do it yourself...
See the highlighted info in the footer that is included with each and every email...
Darrell Reiley wrote:
> Please Unsubscribe me at this time.
> Darrell
> *
> *
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | The Value of a Forum... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Arn't the Lists worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists?
Please make a Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published Dec |
1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
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Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 20%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising
income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to
keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many
years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of
hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a
modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you
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Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal:
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Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
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581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution Today... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors
is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported
and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during
this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last
few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the
Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over
the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support
and camaraderie you have found here.
We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really
want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it
take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep
the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that
keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today.
If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
to do it!
Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
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Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few List Member Comments =====================
I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to
your groups. Somehow you foster a great sense of community without
the baggage that accompanies other lists.
Dave S.
We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free.
Jeff P.
I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve
a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long.
Chris L.
I enjoy the list. Have my morning coffee with it!
Buddy M.
Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none,
when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders.
Owen B.
Keep it going!! Thanks for taking over.
Wallace J.
I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot.
Malcolm Z.
Thanks for your great site! As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an
invaluable resource.
Ken B.
Great informational source.
Fred S.
Thanks for doing this!
Lance G.
Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with
the banter/ serious technical items.
Noel G.
Thanks for the years of builder support.
Roy H.
Great forum!
Roger C.
Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service.
The "Europa" community really appreciates it. All the best, Svein - now
celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think!
Svein J.
Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts.
Robert D.
21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine
building and flying without Matronics.
Brian U.
Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these
forums. As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often.
Paul M.
This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working
on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks
and getting help for the difficult parts.
Thomas S.
Thanks for the excellent service Matt.
Frank S.
Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without
a doubt the most interesting.
Ken M.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity
lifelines!
Daniel H.
Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others
for advice. Good job!
Bob M.
Kolb List is my #1 source!
Henry V.
Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the
beginning!
John M.
I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List.
Arthur L.
Thank you for the service you provide us all!
Nicholas C.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48
of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really
nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year.
Please read them over and see if you don't agree.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few More List Member Comments =====================
I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without
the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium
to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions.
Matt P.
Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good
luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship.
Peter B.
It is a great resource.
Jim G.
Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community.
Gerald A.
You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going.
Bill V.
Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all
the forums.
George A.
Another Great year on the RV-List!
Thomas E.
Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide
range of issues.
Martin H.
Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists!
Rumen D.
It is a great resource.
Bryan R.
Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes.
Peter C.
I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current
generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system.
Gerry C.
A great list that is most useful for builders.
Graham H.
Thanks for this wonderful tool!
Ralph C.
Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community.
Douglas D.
Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant.
George H.
Thanks for keeping this going.
Richard R.
Great facility and well managed.
Victor F.
Thanks for a great service.
John D.
Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better
place for everyone.
Jim W.
I still enjoy getting the list in the morning.
Don M.
You provide a great resource.
David M.
You have probably saved a few necks over the years.
Robert F.
Thank you for being there.
Benjamin B.
You perform a great service.
Bruce M.
Thank you for providing this invaluable resource.
William D.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Hardware Failure - Matronics Web Servers Currently Offline |
failure and is currently not available. Replacement hardware has been ordered
and should arrive on Tuesday 12/6/2011. All services should be restored
shortly there after.
During the outage, the Matronics Forums, Wiki, and other web-based List services
will NOT be available.
However, during the outage, all normal EMAIL based sevices WILL be available so
you may continue to post messages to the various lists without an issue.
I am so sorry for any inconvenience this web server outage has caused...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Services Restored! |
Dear Listers,
web services have been fully restored including the Web Forums, List Browse,
Archive Search, Wiki, and AeroElectric web sites. It was quite an ordeal getting
the replacement boards for the server, but things went back together tonight
and are up and running nicely. The first company I ordered the boards from
originally called me a day later to say that, whoops, they really didn't have
them in stock after all... Fortunately, I was able to locate some through
a different source and had then over-nighted and they arrived today.
Thank you for your patience and consideration though the whole thing!
The List Contribution web site is also back on line for those wishing to make a
donation to the effort:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2011 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the
supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage
you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2011 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2011.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration... |
Dear Listers,
I've been flying the new 10" Dynon Skyview in the RV-6 for a few weeks now and
it seems like the airspeed is reading maybe 10mph fast. The GS always reads 10mph
or more slower than the True airspeed, no matter which way I fly with respect
to the current wind. Looking through the configuration options on the Skyview,
I'm not seeing parameters to calibrate the airspeed. If the airspeed were
*slow* compared to the GS, I could envision making adjustments to the Pitot
tube to get it in better alignment with slipstream. But *fast* is a head scratcher.
If there's no electronic configuration parameters to adjust, what do
you do? Are there Pitot line "attenuators" like for RF in coax? ;-)
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 42+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | David Oakes <dw1oakes(at)gmail.com> |
I need to understand how this type of switch works. My goal is to turn on two landing
lights and then turn off one to use as a taxi light.
Thanks for help in advance.
Dave
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration... |
At 07:39 PM 12/26/2011 Monday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>I've been flying the new 10" Dynon Skyview in the RV-6 for a few weeks now and
it seems like the airspeed is reading maybe 10mph fast. The GS always reads
10mph or more slower than the True airspeed, no matter which way I fly with respect
to the current wind. Looking through the configuration options on the Skyview,
I'm not seeing parameters to calibrate the airspeed. If the airspeed
were *slow* compared to the GS, I could envision making adjustments to the Pitot
tube to get it in better alignment with slipstream. But *fast* is a head scratcher.
If there's no electronic configuration parameters to adjust, what do
you do? Are there Pitot line "attenuators" like for RF in coax? ;-)
>
>Matt
Listers,
Thank you for all the great suggestions on resolving this airspeed issue! I took
a look at the static ports on the RV-6 today and found that they are done using
a flush head screw with a hole drilled in the center on either side of the
fuselage. They do *not* protrude from the side of the plane at all. They are
totally flush (see attached picture). Just for fun, I whipped up a couple
of quick test deals using a 3/16" washer and some electrical tape. I poked a
1/16" hole in the center of the tape and then put the washer centered over the
static ports on both sides of the fuselage (see attached pictures). Then, I
went flying on this beautiful December 27 day in California!
I didn't have time to do any real scientific multi-leg testing, but I was amazed
that the True Airspeed is now falling in a much more believable range compared
to the GPS-derived ground speed. On one cross-country leg, I had an exactly
90 degree crosswind component and the True Airspeed and GPS Ground Speed were
tracking exactly the same. Yahoo!
Obviously I need to do some additional, more scientific measurements and probably
come up with a slightly more "permanent" washer arrangement, but the early
returns are very promising! :-)
Thanks again for all the great feedback!
Matt
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Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 42+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
At 07:47 PM 12/27/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>
>I need to understand how this type of switch works. My goal is to turn on two
landing lights and then turn off one to use as a taxi light.
>
>Thanks for help in advance.
>Dave
Hi Dave,
Are you saying that you want to flip the switch UP and have both the Landing light
and the Taxi light ON, and then flip the switch DOWN and just have the Taxi
light ON and the Landing light OFF? In the Center position both Landing and
Taxi lights would be OFF?
Matt
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 42+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Dynon Skyview vs. GRT HX EFIS... |
>At 09:47 PM 12/27/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
>I have looked at the Dynon stuff up at Arlington Air Show the past two years
>and really like the looks of them. They added autopilot and said last year
>that they were about to announce communications added to their system. A
>single 10" screen to do everything would be pretty easy to install learn to
>operate. Mostly Dynon looks best in the magazines. I guess you get used to
>any of them or they would not all still be in business.
>Pete
I have a Dynon 10" Skyview in the RV-6:
http://www.mattsrv6.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV6&project 43&category=0&log=138164&row=45
http://www.mattsrv6.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV6&project 43&category=0&log=138163&row=46
and a triple GRT HX setup in the RV-8:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log'376&row=134
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log'375&row=135
I've flown the GRT HX setup about 170 hours and the Dynon Skyview system about
45 hours now.
Which do I prefer? That's a tough call. There are parts about each system that
I like a lot...
The installation and configuration of the Dynon is easier. Instructions are also
better. The network cable interconnect system that Dynon uses (I think it
is just RS485, but it works well) is also a no-brainer to install. Their display
(PFD/Engine/Map) are definitely very pretty and demo well.
The GRT is a little harder to get installed, the manual is a little sketchy in
places and there are a LOT of configuration options that can seem daunting at
first. BUT, there is power and utility in those options. If you use them to
your advantage, you can probably do more, better on the GRT compared to the Dynon.
The displays on the GRT don't have the "3D-y", "Windows-y" look to them.
BUT, I think I'm preferring that at this point. Doing a scan on the GRT looking
for something out of the ordinary is quicker and more accurate. I also like
the PFD layout and operation on the GRT better. It feels more "accurate"
and "believable" to me for some reason. I never quite "trust" what I'm seeing
on the Dynon for some reason and I don't know why. Maybe I just need more time
on the Dynon.
So, the Dynon has it for Installation and Configuation, but the GRT has it for
Operation and Presentation as far as I'm concerned. If I was building a new plane,
I think that I would probably go with the GRT. But its a close race. I
really like the Dynon system too.
I guess I'm saying if you're in the market for a full-featured EFIS system, give
GRT and Dynon both very close look before you make your selection. In my opinion,
it comes down to personal preferences in a few select areas on which way
to go. Both systems are top notch.
BTW, Dynon's autopilot add-on for the Skyview which I have in the RV-6 works well.
Its a good autopilot that does the job. The servos are the same as with
the TruTrak system. In the RV-8, I have the TruTrak Digiflight II VSGV system.
The TruTrak is a smoother, more accurate autopilot in my opinion, and I would
go that route again. But, it also costs quite a bit more than just adding
servos to the Dynon or GRT.
$.02
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 42+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
I have the Honeywell switches on my -10 and -8A. A few of them are 3 positi
on switches. I use them for my:
Lights On/WigWag/Off
Safety Trim On/Off/Reverse (Reverse is momentary)
Both work great. I don't see why you could not use these for your lighting
needs.
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Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv7-list-server@mat
ronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: RV7-List: 2-10 Switch
alle(at)matronics.com>>
At 07:47 PM 12/27/2011 Tuesday, you wrote:
oakes(at)gmail.com>>
>
>I need to understand how this type of switch works. My goal is to turn on
two landing lights and then turn off one to use as a taxi light.
>
>Thanks for help in advance.
>Dave
Hi Dave,
Are you saying that you want to flip the switch UP and have both the Landin
g light and the Taxi light ON, and then flip the switch DOWN and just have
the Taxi light ON and the Landing light OFF? In the Center position both L
anding and Taxi lights would be OFF?
Matt
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.
mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 42+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mod
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration... |
At 07:39 PM 12/26/2011 Monday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>Dear Listers,
>
>I've been flying the new 10" Dynon Skyview in the RV-6 for a few weeks now and
it seems like the airspeed is reading maybe 10mph fast. The GS always reads
10mph or more slower than the True airspeed, no matter which way I fly with respect
to the current wind. Looking through the configuration options on the Skyview,
I'm not seeing parameters to calibrate the airspeed. If the airspeed
were *slow* compared to the GS, I could envision making adjustments to the Pitot
tube to get it in better alignment with slipstream. But *fast* is a head scratcher.
If there's no electronic configuration parameters to adjust, what do
you do? Are there Pitot line "attenuators" like for RF in coax? ;-)
>
>Matt
Listers,
I went flying tonight in the RV-6 around sunset and took some airspeed numbers
flying the four points of the compass. I let each direction normalize for about
2 minutes before taking the readings. I've still got my little black-tape
washer deals on the static ports that I detailed in a previous email.
Do these numbers make any sense?
Emacs!
I set the altimeter to 30.15 (KLVK ATIS). I compared the Dynon altitude with the
Garmin 696 GPS altitude. The Dynon was high by 100 ft. I used the Dynon altitude
adjustment to set it to match the GPS (-100ft). The readings above were
after this adjustment.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Scott Randolph" <scott(at)randolphs.net> |
| Subject: | RE: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/29/11 |
Because of normal "randomness" in density distributions in the atmosphere,
differences between GPS and pressure altitude are expected. "Correcting"
them away is likely to make your altimeter wrong at the surface (where it
really matters) and not match other aircraft you may be flying among.
That said, 100 feet is well within the error allowed for a calibrated
pitot-static system anyway.
As for your numbers, all I ended up seeing in your email was "Emacs!", so
I'm guessing that there was a graphic that didn't make it through the digest
version of the mailing list. :)
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1. 07:37 PM - Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration... (Matt Dralle)
________________________________ Message 1
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration...
At 07:39 PM 12/26/2011 Monday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>Dear Listers,
>
>I've been flying the new 10" Dynon Skyview in the RV-6 for a few weeks
>now and
it seems like the airspeed is reading maybe 10mph fast. The GS always reads
10mph or more slower than the True airspeed, no matter which way I fly with
respect to the current wind. Looking through the configuration options on
the Skyview, I'm not seeing parameters to calibrate the airspeed. If the
airspeed were *slow* compared to the GS, I could envision making adjustments
to the Pitot tube to get it in better alignment with slipstream. But *fast*
is a head scratcher.
If there's no electronic configuration parameters to adjust, what do you do?
Are there Pitot line "attenuators" like for RF in coax? ;-)
>
>Matt
Listers,
I went flying tonight in the RV-6 around sunset and took some airspeed
numbers flying the four points of the compass. I let each direction
normalize for about
2 minutes before taking the readings. I've still got my little black-tape
washer deals on the static ports that I detailed in a previous email.
Do these numbers make any sense?
Emacs!
I set the altimeter to 30.15 (KLVK ATIS). I compared the Dynon altitude
with the Garmin 696 GPS altitude. The Dynon was high by 100 ft. I used the
Dynon altitude adjustment to set it to match the GPS (-100ft). The readings
above were after this adjustment.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Scott Randolph" <scott(at)randolphs.net> |
| Subject: | RE: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/29/11 |
Because of normal "randomness" in density distributions in the atmosphere,
differences between GPS and pressure altitude are expected. "Correcting"
them away is likely to make your altimeter wrong at the surface (where it
really matters) and not match other aircraft you may be flying among.
That said, 100 feet is well within the error allowed for a calibrated
pitot-static system anyway.
As for your numbers, all I ended up seeing in your email was "Emacs!", so
I'm guessing that there was a graphic that didn't make it through the digest
version of the mailing list. :)
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1. 07:37 PM - Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration... (Matt Dralle)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration...
At 07:39 PM 12/26/2011 Monday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>Dear Listers,
>
>I've been flying the new 10" Dynon Skyview in the RV-6 for a few weeks
>now and
it seems like the airspeed is reading maybe 10mph fast. The GS always reads
10mph or more slower than the True airspeed, no matter which way I fly with
respect to the current wind. Looking through the configuration options on
the Skyview, I'm not seeing parameters to calibrate the airspeed. If the
airspeed were *slow* compared to the GS, I could envision making adjustments
to the Pitot tube to get it in better alignment with slipstream. But *fast*
is a head scratcher.
If there's no electronic configuration parameters to adjust, what do you do?
Are there Pitot line "attenuators" like for RF in coax? ;-)
>
>Matt
Listers,
I went flying tonight in the RV-6 around sunset and took some airspeed
numbers flying the four points of the compass. I let each direction
normalize for about
2 minutes before taking the readings. I've still got my little black-tape
washer deals on the static ports that I detailed in a previous email.
Do these numbers make any sense?
Emacs!
I set the altimeter to 30.15 (KLVK ATIS). I compared the Dynon altitude
with the Garmin 696 GPS altitude. The Dynon was high by 100 ft. I used the
Dynon altitude adjustment to set it to match the GPS (-100ft). The readings
above were after this adjustment.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "M. Marcotte" <m.l.marcotte(at)sympatico.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration... |
I think one can calculate from the GPS numbers that you had a 14 MPH
(approx) wind from the WNW and you were doing 182 TAS. Your IAS would
appear to be 12 MPH too high.
From: Matt Dralle
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 10:33 PM
rv7-list(at)matronics.com ; rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Dynon Skyview Airspeed Calibration...
At 07:39 PM 12/26/2011 Monday, you wrote:
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
Dear Listers,
I've been flying the new 10" Dynon Skyview in the RV-6 for a few weeks
now and it seems like the airspeed is reading maybe 10mph fast. The GS
always reads 10mph or more slower than the True airspeed, no matter
which way I fly with respect to the current wind. Looking through the
configuration options on the Skyview, I'm not seeing parameters to
calibrate the airspeed. If the airspeed were *slow* compared to the GS,
I could envision making adjustments to the Pitot tube to get it in
better alignment with slipstream. But *fast* is a head scratcher. If
there's no electronic configuration parameters to adjust, what do you
do? Are there Pitot line "attenuators" like for RF in coax? ;-)
Matt
Listers,
I went flying tonight in the RV-6 around sunset and took some airspeed
numbers flying the four points of the compass. I let each direction
normalize for about 2 minutes before taking the readings. I've still
got my little black-tape washer deals on the static ports that I
detailed in a previous email.
Do these numbers make any sense?
I set the altimeter to 30.15 (KLVK ATIS). I compared the Dynon altitude
with the Garmin 696 GPS altitude. The Dynon was high by 100 ft. I used
the Dynon altitude adjustment to set it to match the GPS (-100ft). The
readings above were after this adjustment.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... |
>At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011 Friday, you wrote:
>Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and that
will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that the
safety features that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms is great!
>
>Pascal
Listers,
I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly an Experimental
without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all those switches
and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once when you get
in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and Off all the various
circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of flight. Startup,
Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its pretty darn cool. I've got 172
hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both with VP-200 systems and have
found it to work flawlessly. If you're on the fence about buying one, don't
be. You'll love it. Best money I've spent on both RVs, hands down. See attached
pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8 and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators
for redundancy and this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the
"Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main display.
Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update for
the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS data link from
the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic. You also
get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200 screen as well
as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators. Works great.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... |
Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have
the flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still
(just no circuit breakers).
Ralph Finch
Davis
Listers,
>
> I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly
> an Experimental without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all
> those switches and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once
> when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and
> Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode
> of flight. Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its
> pretty darn cool. I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6
> both with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly. If you're
> on the fence about buying one, don't be. You'll love it. Best money I've
> spent on both RVs, hands down. See attached pictures of my VP-200 from
> both the RV-8 and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and
> this is supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on
> the main display.
>
> Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software
> update for the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS
> data link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully
> automatic. You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on
> the VP-200 screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine
> annunciators. Works great.
>
>
> -
> Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
> Mode
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview... |
Matt;
You are right on!
I pressed Robert at Dynon and Marc at every flyin to get the implementation
of the software. Because of this I have been fortunate to get a early view
of it. It's remains BETA as far as I can tell . Data logging, not in the
Skyview yet, has worked fantastically for me with LOP ops; mode switching?
well, my wife wanted safety, doesn't get more safe than having that
"co-pilot" control each and every step for me. The fly off has been so much
easier with the VP-200, as I set what I want it to do at each mode on the
ground and it gets completed in the air so I dont need to think about it. I
also like the fact that my checklist is on the screen, so no pulling out the
paper list while flying, (ie- "runup mode" kicks in at 1700rpm and mag check
shows difference and results of check; "landing mode" determined by engine
information and checklist comes on, I use a button on my stick to
acknowledge the step and if I get distracted, well, I know where I left off
as it is still highlighted, so I can move on without missing a step- happens
when I use my paper checklist.The warnings for the engine info are also a
great safety item (not in the skyview yet either) when CHT's and EGT exceed
my POH numbers. Lets me focus on flying and not staring at my higher EGTs as
I go lower without thinking about the Mixture- good reminder that I need to
check something. It has not happened but if it ever did.. I have it now with
a female voice telling me "CHECK EGT.. CHECK EGT".
It's a expensive investment, but it's a investment I never regretted,
especially now that it is doing everything I heard it could do.
Dynon and Vertical Power really are customer focused companies. I wish Dynon
would move their capabilities for the Skyview along, and in time I believe
they will have the audio alarms and data logging, they have the VP-X
integration (extra charge applies) which removes the switches and gives that
extra space on the panel, but they will never have the mode changes seen in
the VP-200.
There really is so much the VP-200 does for safety (keyless start, emergency
procedures, electrical triage when battery charge is decreasing (aka
alternator failure)etc) that it would take me a while to cover. If anyone is
wondering what it looks like- check out their Take a flight demo
http://www.verticalpower.com/Take-a-Flight/
and their page.
http://www.verticalpower.com/VP200.html
This forum is to help others.. I preach Desser/Cee baileys because for
custom fit windows they are the best way to go, versus having to do all the
fitting one self and at the same price as Vans sells the pieces.. I gain
nothing with this company nor with telling you my experience with VP-200
other than giving my feedback.
Hope it helps someone.
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dralle
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 10:32 AM
; rv7-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Speaking of Dynon Skyview...
>At 09:17 PM 12/30/2011 Friday, you wrote:
>Got the VP-200 for safety reasons and pre-VPX era. You may not need it, and
>that will free up that space for a IFR screen, if you wish. I will say that
>the safety features that the VP uses for mode switches and engine alarms
>is great!
>
>Pascal
Listers,
I would also highly recommend the Vertical Power VP-200. I wouldn't fly an
Experimental without one. Look how clean Pacscal's panel is without all
those switches and circuit breakers! Nice. Push that Green button once
when you get in, and from then on the VP-200 takes care of turning On and
Off all the various circuits depending on the automatically detected Mode of
flight. Startup, Taxi, Runup, Takeoff, Cruise, Landing, etc. Its pretty
darn cool. I've got 172 hours on the RV-8 and 48 hours on the RV-6 both
with VP-200 systems and have found it to work flawlessly. If you're on the
fence about buying one, don't be. You'll love it. Best money I've spent on
both RVs, hands down. See attached pictures of my VP-200 from both the RV-8
and RV-6. The RV-8 has dual alternators for redundancy and this is
supported by the VP-200 and shown as the "Pri Alt" and "Sec Alt" on the main
display.
Pascal, you should contact Vertical power and get the latest software update
for the VP-200 (from early December 2011). It now supports full EMS data
link from the Dynon Skyview so all of the Mode selection is fully automatic.
You also get some of the primary engine instrument display on the VP-200
screen as well as a myriad of visual and audible engine annunciators. Works
great.
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Speaking of Vertical Power VP-200 and VP-X... |
At 12:48 PM 12/31/2011 Saturday, Ralph Finch wrote:
>Matt, what do you think about the VP-X? It's a lot cheaper but doesn't have the
flight modes or extra display and thus requires all the switches still (just
no circuit breakers).
>
>Ralph Finch
>Davis
The Vertical Power VP-X is definitely a step in the right direction for your typical
Experimental aircraft electrical system. It also allows you to use standard
small signal switches for even the largest of current circuits which saves
space, weight, and money. If the VP-200 didn't exist, there is no question
that I would use the VP-X for my Experimental nerve center.
That being said, the VP-200 adds *so* much more functionality over the VP-X, I
would always recommend it first. The VP-200 truly infuses 21st century technology
with our Experimental aircraft. Given the quality and functionality it brings
to the table, it is exceptionally well priced. If I were on a tight budget,
I would forgo a second GPS, Comm, or EFIS display before I would sacrifice
the functionality provided by the VP-200.
The VP-200 rates a 5 out of 5 in my opinion.
( BTW, I don't get a kick back from Vertical Power; I'm just a very happy, satisfied
and *repeat* customer. :-) )
-
Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 48+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Pete <phudes(at)ix.netcom.com> |
| Subject: | Want to buy flying RV6 or 7 |
I have been a lurker on the list for a number of years. I have come to
the realization that I will not have the time to build my own RV.
I would like to purchase a flying RV 6 or 7. I am located in Southern
California and have an empty hanger. Does anybody on the list want to
sell a whole or portion of their airplane?
Thanks
Pete Hudes KCMA
805-905-1522
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Want to buy flying RV6 or 7 |
| From: | Tom V <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
Pete
I have an RV7 that's 95% completed and should fly by Easter. It has a Dynon Skyview
with a Garmin 530w. Powered by an IO-360 M1B with a constant speed prop
I'm an A&P and have really enjoyed building it. About half way through my son
wanted to be partners but wants a 4 seater. We are contemplating selling my project
and building an RV-10. If interested let me know
I'm in Naples, Fl
Tom VanderHeyden
239-572-0677
On Jan 7, 2012, at 15:59, Pete wrote:
>
> I have been a lurker on the list for a number of years. I have come to the realization
that I will not have the time to build my own RV.
>
> I would like to purchase a flying RV 6 or 7. I am located in Southern California
and have an empty hanger. Does anybody on the list want to sell a whole or
portion of their airplane?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete Hudes KCMA
>
> 805-905-1522
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | phudes(at)ix.netcom.com |
| Subject: | Re: Want to buy flying RV6 or 7 |
Tom,
I am interested. Will you please give me more info and the price you want.
Thanks,
Pete
-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom V <vmax737(at)hotmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 17, 2012 4:05 AM
>To: "rv7-list(at)matronics.com"
>Subject: Re: RV7-List: Want to buy flying RV6 or 7
>
>
>Pete
>I have an RV7 that's 95% completed and should fly by Easter. It has a Dynon Skyview
with a Garmin 530w. Powered by an IO-360 M1B with a constant speed prop
I'm an A&P and have really enjoyed building it. About half way through my son
wanted to be partners but wants a 4 seater. We are contemplating selling my project
and building an RV-10. If interested let me know
>
>I'm in Naples, Fl
>
>Tom VanderHeyden
>239-572-0677
>
>
>On Jan 7, 2012, at 15:59, Pete wrote:
>
>>
>> I have been a lurker on the list for a number of years. I have come to the realization
that I will not have the time to build my own RV.
>>
>> I would like to purchase a flying RV 6 or 7. I am located in Southern California
and have an empty hanger. Does anybody on the list want to sell a whole or
portion of their airplane?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pete Hudes KCMA
>>
>> 805-905-1522
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Want to buy flying RV6 or 7 |
| From: | Tom V <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
Pete
I plan to sell it for what I have in it. Right now I have $108900. The breakdown
is roughly $40000 in the kit, $28000 in the engine, $7000 for the prop. $29000
in the panel.
Remaining to purchase: position lights ($1000), interior ($2500??). It has many
upgrades such as parking brake, Doug Bel tail wheel and lights.
Tom VanderHeyden
239-572-0677
On Jan 17, 2012, at 16:01, phudes(at)ix.netcom.com wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> I am interested. Will you please give me more info and the price you want.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pete
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom V <vmax737(at)hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Jan 17, 2012 4:05 AM
>> To: "rv7-list(at)matronics.com"
>> Subject: Re: RV7-List: Want to buy flying RV6 or 7
>>
>>
>> Pete
>> I have an RV7 that's 95% completed and should fly by Easter. It has a Dynon
Skyview with a Garmin 530w. Powered by an IO-360 M1B with a constant speed prop
I'm an A&P and have really enjoyed building it. About half way through my son
wanted to be partners but wants a 4 seater. We are contemplating selling my
project and building an RV-10. If interested let me know
>>
>> I'm in Naples, Fl
>>
>> Tom VanderHeyden
>> 239-572-0677
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>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 15:59, Pete wrote:
>>
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>>> I have been a lurker on the list for a number of years. I have come to the
realization that I will not have the time to build my own RV.
>>>
>>> I would like to purchase a flying RV 6 or 7. I am located in Southern California
and have an empty hanger. Does anybody on the list want to sell a whole
or portion of their airplane?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Pete Hudes KCMA
>>>
>>> 805-905-1522
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| From: | Lyle Peterson <lyleap(at)comcast.net> |
Hi,
I am a long time lurker and a sometimes poster.
I have two kits for an RV-6. I have a fresh untouched empennage kit and
an untouched wing kit. I bought these a few years ago with big plans to
have my very own RV-6. I have been a passenger in a couple of them and
they are great airplanes. Time and finances get in the way so I must
part with them.
I am in Minnesota and the kits must be picked up here. I drove to
Birmingham, AL to pick up the wing kit. Freight and crating are
expensive and very time consuming for me. I did put out a feeler for
someone who still had the crates left from a two place build but the
ones who did respond had used the crates to build a bench on which to
build the airplane.
The empennage kit is no longer available from Van's. Everything else is
still available from him.
The parts are all there. I haven't inventoried them in detail but the
ribs, aluminum extrusions, flying surface tips and sheet metal are
there. There is a huge bag which contains many small bags of parts,
rivets, bolts, and fittings. There are two lengths of aluminum angle
about 14' long which is why shipping is difficult. They will fit in a
full size van with a little care and coercing.
I am asking $3250.00 for the two kits. I will vehemently resist
separating them or parting them out. Van's has replacement parts if you
need individual parts. For a major repair this might be the ticket for you.
If you, or anyone you know, have any interest respond to me directly.
Thank you,
--
Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE,
MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237
--
Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE,
MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237
--
Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE,
MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237
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| From: | Lyle Peterson <lyleap(at)comcast.net> |
After some research I've decided my original price of $5000 was more in
line with the market.
On 1/31/2012 5:32 PM, Lyle Peterson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am a long time lurker and a sometimes poster.
>
> I have two kits for an RV-6. I have a fresh untouched empennage kit
> and an untouched wing kit. I bought these a few years ago with big
> plans to have my very own RV-6. I have been a passenger in a couple
> of them and they are great airplanes. Time and finances get in the
> way so I must part with them.
>
> I am in Minnesota and the kits must be picked up here. I drove to
> Birmingham, AL to pick up the wing kit. Freight and crating are
> expensive and very time consuming for me. I did put out a feeler for
> someone who still had the crates left from a two place build but the
> ones who did respond had used the crates to build a bench on which to
> build the airplane.
>
> The empennage kit is no longer available from Van's. Everything else
> is still available from him.
>
> The parts are all there. I haven't inventoried them in detail but the
> ribs, aluminum extrusions, flying surface tips and sheet metal are
> there. There is a huge bag which contains many small bags of parts,
> rivets, bolts, and fittings. There are two lengths of aluminum angle
> about 14' long which is why shipping is difficult. They will fit in a
> full size van with a little care and coercing.
>
> I am asking $3250.00 for the two kits. I will vehemently resist
> separating them or parting them out. Van's has replacement parts if
> you need individual parts. For a major repair this might be the
> ticket for you.
>
> If you, or anyone you know, have any interest respond to me directly.
>
> Thank you,
> --
> Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE,
> MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237
> --
> Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE,
> MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237
> --
> Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE,
> MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237
> *
>
>
> *
--
Lyle Peterson, EAA, PGR, AOPA, AAE,
MBS, AMA, MSCE, EAA Chapter 237
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| From: | "rlallen1" <rlallen1(at)gmail.com> |
I am currently working on my panel and wiring. I have a question on the master
switch. From my reading of bob nuckolls I believe I need a 2-3. I am trying
to confirm this and how to wire this up. I have the PP alternator. Do I run
the field wire from the PP alt to the master switch? Do I need a separate switch
for the alt and master?... please advise.
fyi, my set up is. PP alt, single battery, dual Pmags....if that matters.
Also, on the Pmags....for the P lead switch, those are just basic on/off switch
rights...nothing fancy there..?
Ryan Allen
RV7 finishing stage
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Ryan Allen
RV 7 in final stages
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367576#367576
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| From: | "Scott Randolph" <scott(at)randolphs.net> |
| Subject: | RE: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/29/12 |
It sounds like what you want is one DPDT on-on-on switch for the master.
>From B&C, this would be the 2-10. The 2-11 might also work, but I've been
unable of find a diagram for that one. When "down", both sides would be
off. When in the middle, the battery contactor would be energized. When
up, BOTH, the battery contactor and the alternator field would be energized.
Note that you may get a "blink" while switching between the up and middle
position, so sensitive electronics _might_ reset, but this should not be a
factor in normal operation as you will usually go directly from all off to
all on, only using the middle position if you want to take the alternator
off line for some reason or are doing ground testing with the engine off.
I'm not an expert on the P-mags, so I'll leave that confirmation to somebody
else.
Scott.
-----Original Message-----
Subject: RV7-List: master swithch
From: "rlallen1" <rlallen1(at)gmail.com>
I am currently working on my panel and wiring. I have a question on the
master switch. From my reading of bob nuckolls I believe I need a 2-3. I
am trying to confirm this and how to wire this up. I have the PP
alternator. Do I run the field wire from the PP alt to the master switch?
Do I need a separate switch for the alt and master?... please advise.
fyi, my set up is. PP alt, single battery, dual Pmags....if that matters.
Also, on the Pmags....for the P lead switch, those are just basic on/off
switch rights...nothing fancy there..?
Ryan Allen
RV7 finishing stage
--------
Ryan Allen
RV 7 in final stages
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367576#367576
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| Subject: | Re: master swithch |
| From: | "eddies" <eddie.seve(at)clarity.com> |
Hi Ray,
I installed a separate master switch to activate the master relay and wired the
PP alternator field to a separate switch with a light to indicate a failure mode.
The P leads on the Mags are just switched to ground as a function of the key switch
for off or open circuit for on.
Cheers
Eddie
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367883#367883
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| From: | Herb Feldman <hfaz(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Tach readout for Lightspeed on Dynon D-10 |
Hi all - Has anyone gotten their Dynon D-10 to read out the tach-rpm for
a Lightspeed Plasma II Plus.- The light speed is wired as per the instruc
tion, Input plug, with pin 6 for the signal and pin 13 to ground.- I have
a Mag on the left and the Lightspeed on the right.- While doing a Mag ch
eck, the Dynon-displays the Mag rpm fine but the readout drops to-0 whe
n I switch to the Lightspeed.
Dynon says they need a minimum 10 volt signal, and Light speed puts out 10
volts.- I guess the voltages don't quite match. When switched to both, th
e Dynon reads the only one working, which is the Mag.
Other than the readout problem, the Lightspeed works fine.
Anyone have a fix for getting the Dynon to display the Lightspeed?
Thanks - Herb
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| Subject: | Re: Tach readout for Lightspeed on Dynon D-10 |
| From: | "RV7ASask" <rv7alamb(at)sasktel.net> |
Hi Herb,
I had a similar problem. I have dual Light Speeds and a Dynon Skyview. Initially
I had zero RPM with both ignitions. After consulting with Klaus at Light Speed
and the guys at Dynon it was confirmed my Light Speeds did not have the required
10 volts. I sent them back to Klaus and he quickly upgraded them and sent
them back. They work fine now.
Klaus can confirm the voltage output if you send him the serial number on your
Light Speed box.
David Lamb
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367932#367932
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| From: | Herb Feldman <hfaz(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Tach readout for Lightspeed on Dynon D-10 |
Thank's - I'll give him a call.
Herb
--- On Wed, 3/7/12, RV7ASask wrote:
From: RV7ASask <rv7alamb(at)sasktel.net>
Subject: RV7-List: Re: Tach readout for Lightspeed on Dynon D-10
Date: Wednesday, March 7, 2012, 11:12 AM
Hi Herb,
I had a similar problem. I have dual Light Speeds and a Dynon Skyview. Init
ially I had zero RPM with both ignitions. After consulting with Klaus at Li
ght Speed and the guys at Dynon it was confirmed my Light Speeds did not ha
ve the required 10 volts. I sent them back to Klaus and he quickly upgraded
them and sent them back. They work fine now.
Klaus can confirm the voltage output if you send him the serial number on y
our Light Speed box.
David Lamb
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=367932#367932
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | First Composite Pedal Kitplane |
Good day everyone!
I thought that I mention here that the First Composite Pedal Kitplane is now
available!
The first model they called GOTCHA!
Gotcha3.jpg
Gotcha Composite Pedal Kitplane turns your kids tricycle into something
wonderful and exciting rides. The Gotcha composite pedal kitplane is a
bolt-in project into your kids existing tricycle. The kit consist of the
fuselage, the propeller, seat back, wings, horizontal stabilizer and
hardwares.
Build your Gotcha now and enjoy watching your young pilots as they fly
around the neighborhood. Their smile will touch your heart!
Their website www.creative-eagles.com or contact at info@creative-eagles.com
Gotcha Pedal Plane.JPG
Unleash your young eagles and let them enjoy the power of flight.
Enjoy!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Pirep On Rod End Bearing Tool... |
Fellow Builders,
I building a new rudder for 'ol Ruby Vixen and was pondering how to install the
rod end bearings after the leading edge is formed. I think I did it the first
time with a pliers or something that kind of scatched the bearing and ran the
risk of tweaking the leading edge. I was surfing around on Flyboy Accessories
this week and found this sweet Rod End Bearing Tool. It arrived today and
I can't believe how awesome it is. It totally works as good as you would imagine.
Order one today!! You won't be sorry.
(No connection with FB or the tool maker; just a really impressed owner.)
http://www.flyboyaccessories.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=70&products_id=408
Rod End Bearing Tool - Click Image to Close
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 70+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Baffles with a James Cowl |
Does anyone have photos of a Baffle system used with a James cowl? I have o
ne on my 8A (works well) but the transition could be a lot better and I am
looking for ideas.
Thanks,
Robin
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| From: | McAbery Home <buzzie88(at)aol.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 04/06/12 |
Please change my email address to:
Buz(at)metalgoodsmfg.com
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| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 06/07/12 |
only intermittent access to e-mail until June 19th, in an urgent matter contact
info(at)lastfrontierheli.com
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only intermittent access to e-mail until June 19th, in an urgent matter contact
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| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/18/12 |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Backplate For Comant CI-105 |
I just ordered two Comant CI-105 transponder antennas from PacificCoast. I could
swear that the last time I ordered this antenna (about 2008) that it came with
an aluminum backplate. Perhaps 1.5" x 5" with holes
prepunched for the BNC and two stud posts. Both of the antennas I just received
have a cork gasket, but neither has the metal backplate. Am I crazy?
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 100+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: RV8-List: Backplate For Comant CI-105 |
No backplate on the one I ordered either. I made one out of .032 aluminum.
Carl
On Jun 26, 2012, at 1:11 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> RV8-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
>
>
> I just ordered two Comant CI-105 transponder antennas from PacificCoast. I could
swear that the last time I ordered this antenna (about 2008) that it came
with an aluminum backplate. Perhaps 1.5" x 5" with holes
> prepunched for the BNC and two stud posts. Both of the antennas I just received
have a cork gasket, but neither has the metal backplate. Am I crazy?
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -
> Matt Dralle
>
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
>
> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
> Status: 100+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | ADS600-B vs. Transponder Antenna Locations... |
Dear Listers,
The manual for the NavWorx ADS600-B says that the normal transponder antenna and
the UAT antenna "MUST be at least 5 feet apart". On an RV-8, that presents
somewhat of a problem. Realistically, the farthest forward you can mount a transponder
fin is just behind the main spar under the aileron pushrods. 5 feet
back from that point is right under the rear-mounted battery box! That means
that the next realistic place is right behind the elevator bellcrank and behind
bulkhead F-808. The coax w/ TNC connector on one end that comes with the ADS600-B
is just long enough to make it to the forward position. I was thinking
of mounting the transponder antenna (Garmin GTX-237) in the aft position as
described above and using RG-400.
But that's pretty far back for a transponder antenna. I've never seen one mounted
there before. Any reason why I wouldn't want to mount it there?
The only other option would be to mount it out on the wing somewhere to maintain
the 5' separation. But that's even goofier, it seems to me...
Thoughts?
Thanks,
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 110+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | "Dick & Vicki Sipp" <rsipp(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Baron/XM wifi weather system |
I have a complete Baron Systems XM wifi weather system for sale. This
system provides full time on the ground and airborne weather anywhere in
the US to your Foreflight equipped IPAD. Components include the XM
receiver wifi transmitter and all necessary cables. As a bonus
including a Dual wifi GPS and triplex power adapter. The Dual GPS
provides accurate own ship position on your IPAD.
https://www.wxworx.com/shop/aviation/mobile-integration
This is a $1,200.00 value, offered here at $675.00 for one week.
Dick Sipp
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| Subject: | Canopy Cover Discount Offered |
| From: | "gbrasch" <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com> |
Our latest advertiser on RVairspace.com , Bruces Canopy Covers, is offering a
10% discount for our website users. Please check out the many links to Bruces,
along with our other advertisers, on the website. To obtain your discount when
ordering, enter coupon code rvairspace (all lower case). Thanks for looking!
--------
Glenn Brasch
RV-9A Finishing #90623, O-360
1953 Piper Tri-Pacer
A-Star Medevac Driver
Tucson, Arizona
www.RVairspace.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=380394#380394
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| From: | "Dave Henderson" <wf-k(at)mindspring.com> |
Do you think these are for real?????????
Talk about something futuristic NOW! August has come and gone and I for one
have not seen anything yet. Yes, it would be obvious how it would affect the
automotive industry, but it would have a dramatic affect on aviation as
well.
If this was true and it really worked, if I were the president of the United
States I would want to be there promoting what USA has done - IS doing.
Innovation means money, manufacturing, employment.
They have been testing these for several years now. Resilient Tech was
developing them for the military application.
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Amazing new tires.........................
Michelin Tires... Absolutely SCARY looking... Look for 'em in August.
These tires are made in South Carolina , USA .
SEE THROUGH TIRES
Radical new tire design by Michelin.
The next generation of tires.
They had a pair at the Philadelphia car show.
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Yes, those are 'spoke' like connections to the inner part of the tire from
the outside tread 'wrap!' The next picture shows how odd it looks in
motion...
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Makes you wonder how the ride feels doesn't it?
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These tires are airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon.
The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on
these.
Just think of the impact on existing technology:
A. no more air valves...
B. no more air compressors at gas stations...
C. no more repair kits...
D. no more flats...
These are actual pictures taken at the South Carolina plant of Michelin
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| Subject: | Main Gear Axle Cotter Pins |
| From: | Ron Walker <n520tx(at)gmail.com> |
Does anyone have the part number handy for the cotter pins that hold the
axle nuts on ? If so, would you mind sharing it ? I'm away from my plans
for a bit and need some replacements.
Thanks muchly
--Ron
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| From: | "Sean S. Blair" <dogsbark(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Main Gear Axle Cotter Pins |
Ron,
I believe it's:=C2- MS24665-359
Sean Blair
COS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Walker" <n520tx(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:28:14 AM
Subject: RV7-List: Main Gear Axle Cotter Pins
Does anyone have the part number handy for the cotter pins that hold the
axle nuts on ? If so, would you mind sharing it ? I'm away from my plans
for a bit and need some replacements.
Thanks muchly
--Ron
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Slobovia Pumpkin Drop 2012 invitation |
Y'all come!
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's through solely
through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are
possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Make sure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate
the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using
your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A Message From AeroElectric's Bob Nuckolls... |
Dear Listers,
The well known Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric posted a great message Monday on
the AeroElectric-List regarding the Matronics Lists and the importance of supporting
the operation during the Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to read Bob's
commentary below, reposted to the other Matronics Lists with his permission...
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:58:41 -0600
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Please Make A Contribution Today!
At 02:14 AM 11/5/2012, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message
> acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to
> support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that
> took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
>
I will add my voice to this suggestion. It's
easy to enjoy the benefits of what's available to us
off-the-shelves at the corner mega-marts. It's
seldom that we give pause to learn and understand the
processes and tools that made it possible to reach out
and select from dozens of options.
This, and all civil societies, runs on talent, energy
and mobility. Mobility exploited by thousands of hands,
machines and transportation that figure into the
'infrastructure' that puts the boxes of Wheaties and
Pop Tarts on the shelves.
See "I pencil" http://tinyurl.com/36xkhq
Any break in that chain of time, talent and resources
at least interrupts if not totally halts flow of
that benefit. Matt's room full of byte-thrashers is
like the natural gas pumping station a few miles from
my house. If those pumps stop, who ever is expecting
the furnace to come on at the other end of the pipe
is at risk for reduced service and/or higher costs
for that service.
Matt's yearly endeavor to keep his pumps running is
a trivial burden on the members of the Lists
but of incalculable value to those who participate
on them. No donation is too small.
We go to a fly-in a willingly chuck a few bucks into
the coffee can at the drinks and donuts table, let's
chuck a few bucks into Matt's coffee can too. 50,000
pounds of value doesn't get to the shelves on time
if one 18-wheeler runs out of gas. The T-bytes of
data flow we all enjoy don't get from your keyboard
to the screens of others unless Matt pays the light
bill and strokes the machines to keep them happy.
No, $5 won't get you a free copy of the 'Connection
or a fuel sampler but it will go toward the assurance
that logging onto your favorite List will open
doors that you would be sorely missed should you find
that hitting the return key doesn't produce the
expected response.
$5 from every List customer on Matt's system will
go a very long way to keeping the byte-pumps running.
$More$ will go a long way to upgrading the size
and quality of the machines as the old ones get
long in the tooth. No matter what size of donation
you choose . . . please do it now . . .
Bob . . .
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line
archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets
the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of
the best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Who is Matt Dralle & What Are The Lists? |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists anyway? I've been working
in the Information Technology industry for over 28 years, primarily in computer
networking design and implementation and more recently as an embedded software
engineer. I have also done a fair amount of work in web design and development.
I started the Matronics Email Lists way back in 1990 shortly after I started building
my RV-4 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since
that time, I have added many other types of aircraft related Lists to the line
up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives
and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers locally.
Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a bonded dual T1 commercial-grade business Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers include a dual quad-core Linux server for List web services
with 24GB of memory, a quad -core Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another standalone Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with multi-terra byts of online storage. This entire system
is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply systems
(UPS) that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage!
Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these
systems. On the average, the elctric bill is in the neighborhood of $7000-$8000/yr
and the newly upgraded dual-T1 Internet connection runs roughly $6000/yr.
A while back, I upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new
power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the
Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists and followed that upgrade up with
a second rack upgrade to house the MONSTER web system that didn't quite fit
into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center prior
to the addition of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've mentioned many times
before, I don't use commercial advertisments to support any of these systems.
It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you...
and you... and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely
through your Contributions during this time of the year.
*Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another
great year!
Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by sending a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Some Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection
and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution!
You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or feel free to send a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am
enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously
doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help,
encouragement and friendships I've received and made through
the Pietenpol list.
Douwe B
Outstanding service to the flying community.
George A
Matt, I look forward to support each others projects,
Glenn B
Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts!
Roger C
Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never
have completed my aircraft.
Stan S
Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever
finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from
this List.
Tom S
Thank you for keeping these list alive.
Lee V
The List is invaluable!!
Svein J
Thanks for continuing to provide the list service!
Earl S
You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on
for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning.
John B
I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The
flexibility provides the security I seek.
Fergus K
My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly
helped.
Martin H
Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a
project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site
and all the folks again!
James C
Thanks for the great site.
Robert U
The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding!
Jay H
Thank you for a great resource!
Jack T
Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the
homebuilding community!
Larry W
This service is invaluable.
Michael W
You're doing a great job Matt.
Robert D
Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all.
John F
Thank you for your time & effort Matt!
Ted W
Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now
starting an -8. Keep up the great work!
John M
Still my favorite place to hang out.
William W
I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and
congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my
lurking-I learn a LOT here!
Ken M
Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing!
Adrian C
Thanks! Please keep r going!
Rich Z
Many thanks for your hard work.
Robert C
Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few
more...
John M
Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb
List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for
keeping everything running smoothly for all these years.
John H
Great resource - thank you.
David M
I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really
practical info.
John N
Great job Matt, thanks for all you do.
Roger M
Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots
experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways.
But the List represents the evolution of this great
tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools,
and the List - that's all you need to build the dream!
Robert B
This message board is a real help to my project and creating
friendships.
John S
Many thanks for your continuing excellent work.
Mike G
Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a
great deal during the construction of my plane.
Hal B
Nice List
Van E
These lists are priceless for builders.
Ronald C
Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community.
Otto S
Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!!
Yak Ron
Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years.
H H
Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated!
Warren H
Best service on the internet!
Owen B
I have learned so much from the "list".
Nick C
Great Service You Are Providing!
Giffen M
Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources.
Dave S
I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still
enjoy the reading from other pilots.
Dallas S
This is a wonderful site.
Robert B
Useful service over the last year - thanks.
Om T
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...? |
Dear Listers,
The number of List subscriptions are up by a fair amount this year, but support
during this year's Fund Raiser is substantially behind last year, and there's
only about a week left until the end of the Fund Raiser. I have always preferred
a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed
that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient
funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required
including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal
Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping this operation a
float.
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors!
The List Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 23%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 23%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating
costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income to support the Lists
and rely solely on the Contributions of members to keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, dual T1 connection with public address space.
I also maintain a full
backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related data so that in the
event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many years of List archive
data could be restored
onto a new server in a matter of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that
feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a modest Contribution each
year to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you
can use a credit card,
Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming in December! |
Dear Listers,
There's just a couple more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I
post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the
Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today! |
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left! - Still Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last
couple of weeks I have received some more really nice comments from members
on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included a few more of them below.
Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists
and the support and camaraderie you have found here.
We are still behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really
want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it take
resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep the
operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that keeps
things going. Please make a Contribution today.
If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
to do it!
Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few List Member Comments =====================
I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am
enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously
doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help,
encouragement and friendships I've received and made through
the Pietenpol list.
Douwe B
Hey-Long time subscriber, zero-time contributor. Just a
note of thanks. This is first time I have the resources to
contribute. Thanks for carrying a lightweight for years and
a special thanks for your time and effort.
Billy R
My 601 hd is flying with the help with the listers.
Noel G
A very useful facility.
Graeme B
..great site!
Robert C
Great Pietenpol site!
Don Y
Not active but always interested in keeping up. Enjoy
when I can.
Richard R
Dave and Tim from Aircrafters just want to reiterate our
thanks for hosting the lists.
Tim F.
I don't have a lot to give at this time of year, but I
hope my contribution helps none the less. I really enjoy
the message board.
Mark C
Thanks to your continued work on maintaining these lists.
Ralph C
The lists and the various contributors have been a great
help while I was building and also now that I'm flying.
Albert G
Very helpful tools for the homebuilder.
Vaughn T
We appreciate your great help!
Richard H
Many of our customers have expressed to us that you
provide them with an invaluable service - and we agree!
Bill B
I Fly a Quicksilver GT400 but love to read what the Kolb
boys have to say and it was on your list that I found out
about the Yamaha product Ring Free,, now called engine med,
that shit works.. no carbon in my rings or any to speak of
with the use of the Yamaha product with a premix 503 with
over 300 hrs of use.. thanks to your Kolb bulletin board.
Robert B
You are providing a valuable service that helps a lot of
people through information sharing. When I built my
Pietenpol over 40 years ago we were largely on our own,
working without a resource like this list.
Graham H
Thanks for the opportunity to link us all, keep the good work!
Peter B
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| From: | "Dennis W. Conner" <dwconner1(at)sbcglobal.net> |
| Subject: | Alternator connection |
I am using solid state relays instead of the typical coil and contacts
for my main power and starter. The only problem is they are
unidirectional. Standard procedure is to connect the power from the
alternator on the switched side of the contactor. The problem is this
will not charge the battery. I can possibly get a bidirectional relay.
Any ideas? The relays I am using are Power-Gate by Perfect Switch.
You can see them at www.perfectswitch.com.
Thanks, Dennis
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| Subject: | Re: Alternator connection |
| From: | Christopher Cee Stone <rv8iator(at)gmail.com> |
Dennis,
Why not use their bi-directional relay?
http://www.perfectswitch.com/downloads/Relay%20Bi-Directional.pdf
Chris Stone
RV-8
Oregon
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Dennis W. Conner
wrote:
> dwconner1(at)sbcglobal.net>
>
> I am using solid state relays instead of the typical coil and contacts for
> my main power and starter. The only problem is they are unidirectional.
> Standard procedure is to connect the power from the alternator on the
> switched side of the contactor. The problem is this will not charge the
> battery. I can possibly get a bidirectional relay. Any ideas? The relays
> I am using are Power-Gate by Perfect Switch. You can see them at
> www.perfectswitch.com.
>
> Thanks, Dennis
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again;
number 49 actually! But it also means that its that last official day of
the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking up
one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2012 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2012 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended about a week
ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. It is the
people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible!
Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the
supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent products and
I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2012 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2012.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matt's RV-8 Rebuild... |
Dear fellow RV Builders and Flyers,
I've been working hard on the RV-8 rebuild over the holidays and thought I'd share.
Here the current status as of December 28 2012 on the new RV-8 2.0. This
quick video highlights the new instrument panel including the recently finished
cockpit audio output for the video camera. Line level output from the airplane's
intercom is routed out through the RCA outputs in the rear of the cabin
through some matching circuitry in the gold RCA connectors up to the camera's
Mic input. The matching seems to be working pretty well. The audio in the video
is coming right from the intercom and includes a mix of the intercom voice,
the music or DVD output from the Kenwood stereo, and the audio output from the
Garmin SL-30 Com unit (aircraft communications radio). Yet to be wired in is
the audio outputs from the EFIS's, the VP-200, and the ADS600B. Note also that
the video output from the camera is also routed in though the new A/V panel and
then out through the headrest LCD display for the passenger. The video is also
available on the pilot's Kenwood display. Everything is working pretty nicely.
I'm particularly pleased with the new A/V panel I/O.
Matt's HD YouTube Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xrTKAuDEyI&feature=share&list=PLB2F39639392A90DE
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 120+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | Viorel Nichols <viorel.nichols(at)yahoo.com> |
Away on holiday from the 22 December 2012 till 29 January 2013
Wishing you a happy festive season .
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
from
Viorel ...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New RV-14 List At Matronics! |
Dear RV'rs,
I've just setup an all new RV-14 email list and forum on the Matronics servers.
Please surf over and register for and email account and access to the Forums.
To get email distribution, sign up here:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
and to view the new RV-14 forum directly go here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewforum.php?f=79
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 129+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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| From: | Heyden Thomas <vmax737(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | RE: RV7-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/15/13 |
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| From: | Brett Herrick <first_flights(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | RV-6AQ Project for Sale |
Quickbuild Kit - Wings and Fuselage/Tail are complete.-The Finish and Fir
ewall Forward kits are being installed.-It is ready to install the interi
or, panel and engine of your choice.-The Wings have Whelen A600 strobe/po
sition lights, landing light and taxi light installed. Electric flaps, elev
ator trim and aileron trim are installed.-All parts are primed. Built by
licensed engineer.- =0A-=0AFor more details, please view my ad on Barns
tormers.com (i.e. pictures and the Display Specs page).=0A-=0AAsking $11,
000 less than the equivalent RV-7A kits would cost.=0A-=0ABrett Herrick,
- Columbus, Indiana
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| From: | Brett Herrick <first_flights(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | RV-6AQ Project For Sale |
I have put my RV-6AQ project up for sale (i.e. I am switching to a LSA).-
It is complete except for needing the panel and engine of your choice. =0A
-=0AMore information can be found in my ads on Barnstormers and on the Tr
ade-A-Plane website.- The Barnstormers ad has an attached Display Specs S
heet that describes the project and its status.- The Trade-A-Plane ad has
20 attached pictures that shows the project.=0A-=0AThanks.=0A-=0ABrett
Herrick=0AColumbus, Indiana
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Canopy Cutting Made Easy! |
The first step with any Van's canopy installation is cutting the plexiglass bubble
out of the molding frame. For me, this went smoothly mostly thanks to an awesome
tool called a "Roto-Zip" that is available from a local Lowes hardware
store. I have a right-angle cut-off wheel attachment for it. I can't remember
if this came with it or if I bought it separately as an accessory. In either case,
it is a must have for this Plexi cutting. I got some 3.5" "metal cutting
wheels" for it and I have to say it is the cat's meow when it comes to cutting
the canopies out. The tool has plenty of power and doesn't bog down, yet it is
very controllable and accurate cutting is pretty easy. Don't get me wrong, this
is definitely a manly tool and it requires a fair amount of respect. But it
has just the right weight and fits nicely in your hand. The right-angle attachment
can be unlatched and spun in any direction in relation to the handle and
cord, which is really nice. Highly recommend!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 150+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Tail Wheel Upgrade Video... |
Dear Listers,
I upgraded the tail wheel assembly on The Flyer last weekend and installed a new
spring, fork, wheel, control arm, and upgraded to a single spring push rod,
replacing the original dual springs and chains. The original tail wheel appeared
to have been mis-drilled at a slight angle which caused the tire to wear at
an angle which could have also been caused by the single arm/axle arrangement
I suppose. In any case, steering The Flyer was somewhat of a suggestion rather
than a positive decision so I decided to upgrade the whole thing. Once I
got in and started looking at what I had to do, it became obvious that I was going
to have to remove the horizontal and vertical stabilizers to be able to have
the access I needed to drill the hole for the replacement tail spring. Nothing
is easy, it seems. Anyway, the installation came out great, and I can't
believe how much BETTER the plane steers with the semi-ridge control rod! Wow!
Amazing. I also like the looks of the traditional Van's fork and the tail
rides a little bit lower now giving the plane a bit more rake which I like too.
Here is a video I made of the installation. I used a mix of time-lapse stills
from the hangar security cams along with some high resolution stills from my Nikon
D300. The video was really more of an exercise in honing my Adobe Premier
Pro video editing skills, but it came out pretty cool! Check it out!
Be sure to select a high-resolution such as 720p or 1080p and click the full-screen
view to be able to see the detail in the time-lapse photos.
http://youtu.be/H-wHdtxNX_U
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 150+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Don Owens" <springcanyon(at)methow.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Tail Wheel Upgrade Video... |
Great video Matt. I have the same unit on my RV-7. Works great!
Don Owens
N13PD
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Dralle
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 9:48 AM
Subject: RV7-List: Tail Wheel Upgrade Video...
Dear Listers,
I upgraded the tail wheel assembly on The Flyer last weekend and installed a
new spring, fork, wheel, control arm, and upgraded to a single spring push
rod, replacing the original dual springs and chains. The original tail
wheel appeared to have been mis-drilled at a slight angle which caused the
tire to wear at an angle which could have also been caused by the single
arm/axle arrangement I suppose. In any case, steering The Flyer was
somewhat of a suggestion rather than a positive decision so I decided to
upgrade the whole thing. Once I got in and started looking at what I had to
do, it became obvious that I was going to have to remove the horizontal and
vertical stabilizers to be able to have the access I needed to drill the
hole for the replacement tail spring. Nothing is easy, it seems. Anyway,
the installation came out great, and I can't believe how much BETTER the
plane steers with the semi-ridge control rod! Wow! Amazing. I also like
the looks of the tradition!
al Van's fork and the tail rides a little bit lower now giving the plane a
bit more rake which I like too.
Here is a video I made of the installation. I used a mix of time-lapse
stills from the hangar security cams along with some high resolution stills
from my Nikon D300. The video was really more of an exercise in honing my
Adobe Premier Pro video editing skills, but it came out pretty cool! Check
it out!
Be sure to select a high-resolution such as 720p or 1080p and click the
full-screen view to be able to see the detail in the time-lapse photos.
http://youtu.be/H-wHdtxNX_U
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 150+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Tailwheel Bearing - Separating Bronze Bearing... |
Dear Listers,
Well, I disassembled the tailwheel on the RV-6 and RV-8 this weekend and took the
wad of parts including the steel spring, bearing knuckles, forks and little
hub caps to the local powdercoaters.
But they won't accept the bearing knuckle because it has a bronze or brass sleeve!
They claim it will leak oil and make a mess in the oven. They expect me
to somehow get that sleeve out of the steel part! That seems crazy? Is that
even possible? Surely it won't just come out with a gentle knocking, will it?
Help...
Thanks!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 150+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mike Koehn" <mskoehn(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | RE: RV8-List: Tailwheel Bearing - Separating Bronze Bearing... |
I was faced with the same situation on the 8 but had second thoughts about
removing the bushing. In the end I left it in and had the painters
ultrasonically strip the thing in the degreaser tank. That worked reasonably
well. In the end there was a very small amount of oil that leached out of
the bearing or surround during the bake cycle which stained the powder coat
at one small spot on the bottom (depends probably on which way you hang it
on the rack) which even with the white coating was almost unnoticeable. Am
satisfied with the paint job and it surely was better than beating the
housing senseless with a hammer...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: RV8-List: Tailwheel Bearing - Separating Bronze Bearing...
--> RV8-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
Dear Listers,
Well, I disassembled the tailwheel on the RV-6 and RV-8 this weekend and
took the wad of parts including the steel spring, bearing knuckles, forks
and little hub caps to the local powdercoaters.
But they won't accept the bearing knuckle because it has a bronze or brass
sleeve! They claim it will leak oil and make a mess in the oven. They
expect me to somehow get that sleeve out of the steel part! That seems
crazy? Is that even possible? Surely it won't just come out with a gentle
knocking, will it?
Help...
Thanks!
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 150+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
Mode
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | RV-6/7/9 Windshield Fairing... |
Hey Listers,
Has anyone tried one of these pre-made RV-6/7/9 fiberglass windshield fairing yet?
Seems like it could be a HUGE time and frustration saver if it fits pretty
well. I'm thinking about repainting the RV-6 at some point, and the glass could
use replacing as well as the bezel. This could be an option...
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/rvWindshieldFairing.php
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 170+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
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| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/10/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/11/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/12/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/13/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/14/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/15/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/16/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/17/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/18/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 08/19/13 |
unable to respond to any mail until the 20th of August,
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Russell Daves" <dav1111(at)clear.net> |
Russ & Carol Kamtz were killed in a plane crash at Jackson Hole Wyoming
yesterday. Russ Kamptz has been my co-chair for the LOE Charity Fly In the
past 3 years and his and Carol's passing will be a huge loss to the RV
community.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Russell Daves" <dav1111(at)clear.net> |
| Subject: | RE: RV Friends Lost |
The memorial service for Russ & Carol Kamtz , killed in a plane crash at
Jackson Hole Wyoming earlier this week will be held on September 21, 2013
at 10:30 am
The services will be at Emmanuel Lutheran Church, 4650 Sunview Drive,
Loveland, CO 80538.
Russ Kamptz has been my co-chair for the LOE Charity Fly In the past 3
years and this year we are going to do a dedication ceremony "In memory of
Russ & Carol Kamtz.
Russ Daves
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| Subject: | Re: RE: RV Friends Lost |
| From: | Glenn Brasch <gmbrasch(at)gmail.com> |
Very Sad, I will add this info to my site to try and spread the word
farther.
Glenn Brasch
www.rvairspace.com
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Russell Daves wrote:
> **
>
>
> The memorial service for Russ & Carol Kamtz , killed in a plane crash at
> Jackson Hole Wyoming earlier this week will be held on September 21,
> 2013 at 10:30 am
>
> The services will be at Emmanuel Lutheran Church, 4650 Sunview Drive,
> Loveland, CO 80538.
>
> Russ Kamptz has been my co-chair for the LOE Charity Fly In the past 3
> years and this year we are going to do a dedication ceremony "In memory
> of Russ & Carol Kamtz.
>
> Russ Daves
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."
-Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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| Subject: | Fairings-Etc Reply |
I will be unable to access my computer for a few days. My lady, Sonya, who does
all my computer things for me, will be gone for a few days starting on the 17th.
I will reply to your emails and orders starting on the 21th. If you need to
urgently speak with me directly before that date, please call me on my cell
phone: 623-203-09795.
Bob Snedaker
Fairings-Etc
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| Subject: | Fairings-Etc Reply |
I will be unable to access my computer for a few days. My lady, Sonya, who does
all my computer things for me, will be gone for a few days starting on the 17th.
I will reply to your emails and orders starting on the 21th. If you need to
urgently speak with me directly before that date, please call me on my cell
phone: 623-203-09795.
Bob Snedaker
Fairings-Etc
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| Subject: | Fairings-Etc Reply |
I will be unable to access my computer for a few days. My lady, Sonya, who does
all my computer things for me, will be gone for a few days starting on the 17th.
I will reply to your emails and orders starting on the 21th. If you need to
urgently speak with me directly before that date, please call me on my cell
phone: 623-203-09795.
Bob Snedaker
Fairings-Etc
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| Subject: | Fairings-Etc Reply |
I will be unable to access my computer for a few days. My lady, Sonya, who does
all my computer things for me, will be gone for a few days starting on the 17th.
I will reply to your emails and orders starting on the 21th. If you need to
urgently speak with me directly before that date, please call me on my cell
phone: 623-203-09795.
Bob Snedaker
Fairings-Etc
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
counts!
This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. In fact, there are over 30 different gifts
to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone,
to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the
vary members and vendors that you'll find on the Matronics Lists and they have
been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous members include:
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Network Issues At Matronics Last Few Days... |
Dear Listers,
Starting sometime on Friday November 1st, my Internet Service Provider (ISP) began "upgrading" their Domain Name Servers (DNS). DNS servers allow the resolution of computer names such as "www.matronics.com" to real addresses such as 64.81.74.3. This also impacts email delivery as well, since there is another layer of resolution that applies to email names.
Because of this upgrade on the part of my ISP, DNS service started getting unreliable
around Friday sometime, but I didn't notice it until sometime on Saturday.
When I used a tool called "nslookup" to test the resolution of name-to-address,
about 50-75% of the time my ISP's servers would response with an "SERVFAIL"
indicating that they didn't know the answer. I opened a ticket with the
ISP on Saturday, and by Sunday afternoon I had no feedback on the ticket so I
called in to support. "We upgrading the DNS servers, and it should back by Sunday
at 5pm." 5pm came and went with no resolution.
Well, long story short by Tuesday morning things were still not fixed and in fact
much worse. So, I opted to move all my DNS service to a different service
provider. I have a lot of DNS entries, so it took a while to get everything moved
over. It generally takes about 24 hours for a change like that to fully
propagate across the Internet which would be Wednesday morning sometime. I've
noticed that the Matronics web server traffic is picking up again, so many sites
have already propagated the new information.
I really should have just moved the DNS on Saturday when I first noticed the troubles,
but with stuff like this, you just keep believing that it gonna be fixed
any minute now.... And, in fact, that's what my ISP kept telling me...
Its always a giant bummer when stuff like this happens and particularly during
the Fund Raiser. I apologize to anyone that has tried to make a Contribution
in the last few days and had issues or was simply unable to connect. By the time
you read this email, the DNS should be fully propagated, and I ask that you
please try again.
The Contribution web site URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your kind consideration and patience,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94551-0347
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email Disruption Fixed... |
Dear Listers,
Starting around midnight this morning 11/11/13, the Matronics Barracuda spam filter
that receives all incoming email from the Internet, developed a problem and
started rejecting all incoming
email. I just got off the phone with the Barracuda technical support and we have
If you have posted to any of the Lists during this time, you will need to resend
your email to the respective List.
My apologies for the disruption!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A List Contribution Today; Some Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of really nice gifts available this year, so please browse the selections
and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution!
You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or feel free to send a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
I wondered off for a few years & am coming back. I firmly
believe you provide greater value to us than some
magazine subscriptions.
William F
Thanks for helping me connect to people have truly blazed
the trail.
Terry M
Thank you for the time and effort you put into keeping these
lists going. I am on the verge of flying my RV 8 and would
not be here without the help of Matronics.
Michael W
Thank you for providing a valuable service.
Vaughn T
Matt I like your forums.
Jerry D
Thank you for another year of service.
Oscar Z
Been a "member" for years - this has been a fantastic
resource and a great gift to the aviation community.
Reade G
Thanks for the many years of support to RV builders.
Roy H
Best run list on the net.
Roger C
Thanks for your excellent forum!
Fred D
Truly respect your work and service to many readers!!
Fergus K
Thanks for an ad-free list!
William A
Thank you for your GREAT service. I read it every day.
John B
..great service!
Ralph C
Thanks so much for being there. Your contribution to aviation
knowledge is invaluable.
Benjamin B
Thank you for providing the list service. It's great!
William V
I'd never have finished my Glasair without them.
Ronald C
Thank you Matt for the valuable forum, am pleased to
contribute!
Jeffrey J
Fine service.
Byron G
Thanks for your support of our community!
Kenneth B
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today! |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists this year
is currently behind last year by at this time by roughly 25%. We got off to a
slow start this year with the network DNS issues on the kickoff weekend, so please
take this opportunity to show your support for the Matronics Lists and Forums!
Please remember that it is *solely* your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
and Forums up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members
don't want to support the Lists directly, then I might have to add advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I don't want to have to do
that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and I think that a lot
of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
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| From: | James King <jamesk777(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fund Raiser Behind By 25% - Please Contribute Today! |
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during
this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through
YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution Today... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors
is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported
and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during
this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
>From the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from
advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap
into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have
always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user
is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't
want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly
endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing
rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb
to that.
That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot
of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning,
maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser
each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email
every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the
operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory.
Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine.
However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution
and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's
it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the
Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement
or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum
that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way.
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these
Lists?
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Of Pencils & Airplanes [Repost From AeroElectric-List]... |
[Dear Listers, last week, Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric fame, posted a very
nice message discussing the Lists and Forums at Matronics. It is a very insightful
piece and I asked Bob if I could forward it to the rest of the Lists for
the other members to enjoy and contemplate as well. He gladly agreed, and so
below I have included the text from that message. Enjoy. -Matt Dralle, Matronics
Email List and Forum Administrator]
"As most of you know, Matt's ISP was fiddling with some crucial
details for the exchange of data on the 'net a few weeks ago.
The Lists, Matt's business site, and AeroElectric.com got really
flakey. . . I was 'unhooked' from the List and all of three of
my e-mail services for several days. Out of business and out
of touch.
After two days, I was beginning to worry. I had no idea as
to root cause nor was there a time table for resolution . . .
I began to mull over plan-B options. Of course, plan-B
would have entailed seeking a new home for aeroelectric.com and
ancillary services. NOT a quick, inexpensive or happy thing to
contemplate.
The time talents and resources that go into fabrication and
maintenance of some of the 'simplest' features of our lives often
go unnoticed . . . not because they're unappreciated . . . but simply
because we're unaware of their significance.
I will invite you all to read an essay by one Leonard Read written
in 1958 titled "I pencil". See:
http://tinyurl.com/me3q3hj
It's a fascinating and well crafted peek into a society of
unacquainted, self-interested individuals who exploited
uncountable windows of opportunity for what has
been called "spontaneous order" in the manufacture and sales
of the simple wood pencil. The point of citing Mr. Read's
essay is to examine two features of the human experience that
contribute to the success of this List and our various interests
in airplanes.
The first point I'd like to make is that we cannot know
the millions of individuals who contributed to the materials
and infrastructure that make this List possible. We sit at the
top of a pyramid of work-product derived from the time,
talents and resources of millions of people who we'll never
know.
Another feature I'd like to emphasis is our ignorance
of the criticality for any single component for a host
of materials and components for the manufacture and
sales of a simple pencil or an affordable airplane. Suppose
any one of the materials or processes described in Read's
essay were simply unavailable. How would that impact
the price of a pencil? Would the pencil even continue to
exist at it's new price? The really big question is, "How
might some seemingly small loss ripple throughout the
economy of our existence?"
The time, talent and resources that support infrastructure
for this List, my website, Matt's website, and our e-mails
cannot be accurately known. That infrastructure stands
on an exceedingly complex array of activities that arose
from the ingenuity and spontaneous organization of free-
market enterprises. But from our perch at the top of
this pyramid we need only look down a few layers and see that
this resource upon which we depend is vulnerable. There are
risks we all assume . . . Matt could get t-boned in an
intersection tomorrow. Lightning could strike the pole behind
his facility and do catastrophic damage to the hardware.
Yours truly could take a deer through the windshield on
his way to Wichita some morning.
Other risks are less catastrophic. They include things
like amateurish behaviors by maintainers of the Internet
highway's potholes. Perhaps some material critical to
the manufacture of terabyte hard drives dries up. Or
maybe the cost of keeping the lights on and the bytes
herded become more than Matt can justify given his personal
needs for existence.
Several times a year I get an opportunity to
plant new seeds of thought in the minds of fellow citizens.
One of my favorites is to be standing in a long line
at Panera's waiting to purchase a bagel and coffee and
hear somebody in line complaining about the
wait. I suggest to them that to wait in line for a
much desired product is a GOOD thing. Not having
to wait is a BAD thing if there is not enough business
to encourage them to be open tomorrow.
It goes without saying that few, if any of us, possess the
talents, resources or motivation to step up and do what
Matt does. At last count, there were about 1600 individuals
who subscribe to this List [Aeroelectric-List]. . .
certainly many more make up the population of subscribers
to all of the Lists on Matronics.
A few years back, Matt was besieged by legal trials
and tribulations over the naming of his products . . .
seems somebody claimed ownership of the words 'scan'
and/or 'scanner' . . . We here on the AeroElectric-List
perceived a risk to Matt's operations and came up with
several thousands of dollars to contribute to his defense
fund. We need make no greater 'investment' in Matt's
operations now than it takes to stand in a line for
a Quarter-Pounder Combo . . . or a fist full of pencils.
You and I can have no more positive influence over the
manufacture of pencils and hard drives than to continue
to purchase such things and encourage those with the
time, talent and resources to continue doing what they
do best.
Let's contribute to the comfortable maintenance of this
service which is probably more valuable than we know.
Just a little bit from thousands of us on the Matronics
Lists can make a big difference.
Bob . . ."
Please take a minute to make your Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Coming Soon! |
Dear Listers,
There's just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser and that means
the List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Elevator bending brake |
| From: | Ellismcgaughy <ellismcgaughy(at)gmail.com> |
I'm building my second set of rv7a elevators as I found my first set warped by
about 1/2" at the inboard trailing edges.
I'm preparing to bend the skins and was wondering if anyone that might live within
a hundred miles or so from Fayetteville NC might already have a bending brake
I could use. Otherwise, I will plan to dive through all the warped lumber
at my local neighborhood hardware store.
Ellis
A&P and Grumman tiger owner.
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| From: | George Douglas <george(at)oilhelp.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Elevator bending brake |
Ellis, I don't know anything about your project other than I plan to buy an already
built RV 7 down the road. I have a traveler presently and keep it at my strip
in TN at 2tn7. Are you building the RV to replace your tiger?
George
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 27, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Ellismcgaughy wrote:
>
>
> I'm building my second set of rv7a elevators as I found my first set warped by
about 1/2" at the inboard trailing edges.
>
> I'm preparing to bend the skins and was wondering if anyone that might live within
a hundred miles or so from Fayetteville NC might already have a bending
brake I could use. Otherwise, I will plan to dive through all the warped lumber
at my local neighborhood hardware store.
>
> Ellis
> A&P and Grumman tiger owner.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Elevator bending brake |
On 11/27/2013 7:57 AM, Ellismcgaughy wrote:
>
> I'm building my second set of rv7a elevators as I found my first set warped by
about 1/2" at the inboard trailing edges.
>
> I'm preparing to bend the skins and was wondering if anyone that might live within
a hundred miles or so from Fayetteville NC might already have a bending
brake I could use. Otherwise, I will plan to dive through all the warped lumber
at my local neighborhood hardware store.
>
> Ellis
> A&P and Grumman tiger owner.
>
I'm not close, but might be able to offer a tip or two on doing the bend
if you build your own bender. 1st, using a dowel (wood, welding rod,
etc) taped into the trailing edge can help with preventing a too-sharp
bend. Also, I found that my home made brake tended to roll the bend
forward on the side that was on top side of the brake. I made the bend
in multiple steps, checking after each step by clecoing the skin onto
one side of the skeleton & checking hole alignment on the other side
while manually pressing the skin down against the skeleton.
Charlie
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Elevator bending brake |
| From: | Dan Bergeron <dan.pat.b(at)gmail.com> |
Ellis
I still have the homemade brake I made about 10 years ago out of 2' x 8's
and 3.5" hinges - you'd be welcome to it - problem is I'm in Massachusetts
- wish I could offer you some advice - as I recall the bending process was
pretty straight forward - only thing I can think of is make sure the lumber
pieces you make your brake with are perfectly true with not the slightest
sign of a warp - keep flipping the skins over after each press to avoid
rolling the bend too far forward on one side or the other - good luck and
stay with it -
Dan Bergeron
RV-7A - N307TB
442 hours since first flight
on Aug 4, 2009
On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Charlie England wrote:
>
>
> On 11/27/2013 7:57 AM, Ellismcgaughy wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm building my second set of rv7a elevators as I found my first set
>> warped by about 1/2" at the inboard trailing edges.
>>
>> I'm preparing to bend the skins and was wondering if anyone that might
>> live within a hundred miles or so from Fayetteville NC might already have a
>> bending brake I could use. Otherwise, I will plan to dive through all the
>> warped lumber at my local neighborhood hardware store.
>>
>> Ellis
>> A&P and Grumman tiger owner.
>>
>> I'm not close, but might be able to offer a tip or two on doing the bend
> if you build your own bender. 1st, using a dowel (wood, welding rod, etc)
> taped into the trailing edge can help with preventing a too-sharp bend.
> Also, I found that my home made brake tended to roll the bend forward on
> the side that was on top side of the brake. I made the bend in multiple
> steps, checking after each step by clecoing the skin onto one side of the
> skeleton & checking hole alignment on the other side while manually
> pressing the skin down against the skeleton.
>
> Charlie
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. If you've
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Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
It's November 30th and that always means a couple of things. Its my birthday again;
the big 50, in fact! But it also means that it's that last official day
of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been thinking about picking
up one of those really nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on it!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
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Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2013 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2013 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and it's time that I published this year's List of Contributors.
It is the people on this list that directly make these Email Lists and Forums
possible! Their generous Contributions keep the servers and Internet connection
up and running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
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581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon for their generous support
through the supply of many great gifts this year!! These guys have some excellent
products and I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki - My Pilot Store - http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race - Race Consulting - http://www.mrrace.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2013 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2013.html
Thank you again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List & Forum Administrator
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| Subject: | Elevator V-Jigs? |
| From: | Ellis McGaughy <ellismcgaughy(at)gmail.com> |
Does anyone use the ol=92 V-Jigs to assemble the elevators? I posted
earlier that I found my older elevators (built prior to the change in
counterbalance design) were quite warped. So, I=92m building a new set of
elevators. I=92m setting up V-jigs and plumb bobs to check straightness a
nd
are finding perhaps a slight bit of twist (but not as much as the older
ones I built). I have not match drilled or riveted yet.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "George Douglas" <George(at)oilhelp.com> |
| Subject: | Elevator V-Jigs? |
Ellis, I did talk with John about his RV, but the time isn't right for me
now unless he was trying to get rid of it in a black Friday sale or
something like that. not sure about buying an engine that has been stored
for 3 years either. Took a flight today in my traveler and it climbed out at
800 FPM, but it was light and real cold out. Wished it would climb like that
in the summer.
Best Regards,
George Douglas
Amsoil Distributor
office 407-856-1564
toll free 800-887-6698
cell 321-663-5391
www.oilhelp.com
From: owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv7-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ellis McGaughy
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 2:08 PM
Subject: RV7-List: Elevator V-Jigs?
Does anyone use the ol' V-Jigs to assemble the elevators? I posted earlier
that I found my older elevators (built prior to the change in counterbalance
design) were quite warped. So, I'm building a new set of elevators. I'm
setting up V-jigs and plumb bobs to check straightness and are finding
perhaps a slight bit of twist (but not as much as the older ones I built).
I have not match drilled or riveted yet.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Adam Boggs <boggs(at)aircrafter.org> |
| Subject: | For Sale: RV7 kit partially built, Colorado |
Hi Folks,
Well, the time has come to find someone interested in finishing an RV-7
kit which hasn't seen any progress in a number of years. Here are the
details:
- 3 kits -- empennage, wing, and fuselage
- About 500 hours into it. Empennage is complete (except for re-issued
rudder), wing kit is mostly done (skins not yet riveted on), and
fuselage is still in the crate.
- Wing kit purchased with electric trim kit and inverted fuel pickup on
one side.
- You will still need to acquire the finishing kit, so you can decide
between tailwheel or tricycle gear.
- All completed parts have been alodined and primed with chromate epoxy
primer.
- Will include tools such as air compressor, squeezer, drill, rivet gun,
HVLP spray gun, etc.
Some small parts may be missing or unaccounted for but are easily
ordered from Vans. All parts are sold as-is. The kit is located in
Boulder, CO and buyer will need to make arrangements to pick it up.
Asking $10,500. This is like buying a quick build kit for a fraction of
the cost! Please contact me by email or phone if interested.
Sincerely,
Adam Boggs
boggs-rvforsale(at)aircrafter.org
303-880-8559
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Down for Repair (PLEASE READ)... |
Dear Listers,
Late Tuesday night 4/15/2014, the Matronics Web server crashed due to a multi-disk
RAID 5 failure. The system has complete data backups, but I will likely have
to order some replacement disks to rebuild the system. I'll work as quickly
as I can to restore the Matronics Web Server.
The Matronics EMAIL server is NOT impacted by this issue. All normal Matronics
Email List mail will flow as usual. However, the Matronics Web Forums interface
will not be available.
Also impacted by the Web Server outage will be the AeroElectric web site.
I will try to post daily updates on the Web Server restoration status.
I apologize for the inconvenience... :-(
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Repaired and ONLINE! (PLEASE READ) |
Dear Listers,
The new hard drives for the Matronics web server arrived today, Thursday 4/17/2014
and the RAID5 disk array rebuild went very smoothly.
Web server is back online and fully functional! No data or files were lost.
Additionally, those that frequent the AeroElectric web site will find that it has
been restored as well.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | 581 Jeannie Way | Livermore | CA | 94550
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Cable Routing With Front Mounted Governor... |
| From: | "tfarrell839" <tim(at)aircraftersllc.com> |
Hi Matt,
How's this working out for you in the long-run? Any issues?
Thanks,
Tim
--------
Tim Farrell
Aircrafters
831-722-9141
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=425097#425097
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Cable Routing With Front Mounted Governor... |
At 02:56 PM 6/18/2014 Wednesday, you wrote:
>
>Hi Matt,
>
> How's this working out for you in the long-run? Any issues?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tim
Hi Tim,
It worked out great! The only issue I had was heat from the engine causing some
stickige after about 20 hours or so. I replaced the cable and added two sleeves
of the firesleeve from FlyBoy Accessories and after 150 more hours never
had a problem. I'm not totally convinced that it was heat that caused the cable
to go bad. Could have been just manufactured poorly and started to stick for
other reasons.
Here's a link to the firesleeves I used:
http://www.flyboyaccessories.com/Fuel-Line-Heat-Rejection-Sleeve-p/2403.htm
Attached are a few pictures of my RV-8 installation with the firesleeves.
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 180+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/02/14 |
| From: | bert <bertrv6(at)gmail.com> |
rskas a
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM, RV7-List Digest Server
wrote:
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete RV7-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the RV7-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 14-07-02&Archive=RV7
>
> Text Version:
>
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>
>
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> ===============================================
>
>
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> Total Messages Posted Wed 07/02/14: 0
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>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV7-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/02/14 |
| From: | bert <bertrv6(at)gmail.com> |
rskas a
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:02 AM, RV7-List Digest Server
wrote:
> *
>
> =================================================
> Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive
> =================================================
>
> Today's complete RV7-List Digest can also be found in either of the
> two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted
> in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes
> and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version
> of the RV7-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor
> such as Notepad or with a web browser.
>
> HTML Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 14-07-02&Archive=RV7
>
> Text Version:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 14-07-02&Archive=RV7
>
>
> ===============================================
> EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive
> ===============================================
>
>
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> RV7-List Digest Archive
> ---
> Total Messages Posted Wed 07/02/14: 0
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Rusty RV-8 Steel Parts |
I sent this email to Van's today. Something to watch out for...
>Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2014 11:23:02 -0700
>To: support(at)vansaircraft.com
>From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>Subject: Rusty RV-8 Steel Parts
>
>
>Dear Van's,
>
>I am stripping all of the steel parts on my RV-8 to have them re-powder coated
in a textured black to match the rest of my interior. While stripping, I have
noticed a couple of things regarding factory powder coating. Perhaps the most
disturbing was the high build up rust under parts in certain areas, primarily
the ones made from the 4130 plate (see attached pictures). This will eventually
cause the powder to flake off.
>
>The other issue is the distinct lack of surface prep on all steel parts! On every
single steel part that I have stripped, there is no surface preparation such
as scuffing and/or phosphating. All of my steel parts will be undergoing
these steps prior to powder coating for the absolute best possible protection
from future rust break through. Additionally, the adhesion of the powder coat
is significantly better with these additional surface preparations. The cost
differential is minimal, since high-end coaters usually do these steps by default.
>
>Many builders faced with changing the color of their steel parts will simply choose
to paint or powder coat over the top of the factory powder coating. This
will eventually lead to a less-than-satisfactory result for the reasons outlined
above.
>
>FYI.
>
>-
>Matt Dralle
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 180+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
Matt's Livermore Airport Live ATC Stream!
Check out the live ATC stream directly from my hangar at the Livermore
Airport. Includes both Tower and Ground transmissions. Archives too!
For entertainment purposes only. http://klvk.matronics.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members (you) that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. YOUR personal Contribution
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This year we have a really HUGE and TERRIFIC line up of free gifts to go along
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to choose from - more than we've ever had before! There's something for everyone,
to be sure. Most all of these gifts have been provided by some of the
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been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous members include:
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Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Corbin Glowacki of My Pilot Store http://www.mypilotstore.com
George Race of Race Consulting http://www.mrrace.com/
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and excellent aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Andy, Bob, Corbin, George, and Jon their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
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To make your Contribution, please visit the secure web site:
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I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
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Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
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581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
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Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
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I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
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these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94551-0347
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
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it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
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Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | jim clark <jam6rv(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
I would like to be removed from this list but do not know how.=C2- Thanks
,=C2- Jim
On Monday, November 10, 2014 2:42 AM, Matt Dralle wrote:
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser message
s.=C2- Here's how it works...=C2- As soon as a List member makes a Cont
ribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is
automatically added to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cea
se to receive further Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month!=C2-
Its just that simple!=C2- :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions
to support the Lists.=C2- It is your support that enables me to upgrade t
he hardware and software that are required to run a List Site such as this
one.=C2- It also goes to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection
and to pay the huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running and th
e air conditioner powered on.=C2- I run all of the Matronics Email List a
nd Forums sites here locally which allows me to control and monitor every a
spect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance.=C2- Your
personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers suc
h as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running.=C2- I
accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites.=C2
- I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prev
alent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have it o
n my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics
Email Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Matronics / Matt Dralle
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- 581 Jeannie Way
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Cont
ribution related message.=C2- For example, if someone replies to one of t
he messages, when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List mes
sage via the Forum.=C2- The system keys on the given email address and si
nce most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple w
ay to filter them.]
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
April 01, 2011 - November 17, 2014
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