RVCanada-Archive.digest.vol-aa
September 14, 1999 - September 20, 2005
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle 925-606-1001) |
| Subject: | Welcome to the new RVCanada-List at Matronics!! |
Welcome to the new RVCanada-List at Matronics!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
Don't know if there's anyone out there to receive this yet. But if there
is, hello and welcome to the RV Canada List.
I'm Tedd McHenry, and I live in Surrey, BC, Canada. I'm building an RV-6
(though, at the rate I'm going, one could hardly call it "building"). I
also publish the Western Canada RVator, newsletter of Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing. I look forward to chatting about RVs in Canada with
everyone on the list. (Which, I hope, means more than just me!)
Tedd
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
I just did a "who" request, and I see that several people have joined since
yesterday. Welcome to all of you! I'm happy to see several email addresses
that I recognize from VAF Western Canada Wing.
Feel free to send an introductory post, telling us who you are and what your
interest in RVs is. Or, feel free to lurk! Since almost no-one yet
belonged to the list when I sent my introductory email, here it is again
(slightly revised).
I live in Surrey, BC, Canada. I'm building an RV-6 (though, at the rate I'm
going, one could hardly call it "building"). I also publish the Western
Canada RVator, newsletter of Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing. I've been
keen on RVs since first seeing an RV-4 in the old RAAC magazine, in 1985.
Then I saw the then-new RV-6 at Oshkosh in 86, and got more interested. My
fate was sealed, though, in April 94, when I got a back-seat ride in an RV-4
at Redmond, OR. Fantastic! If you haven't flown an RV yet, you definitely
have something to look forward to.
And I look forward to chatting about RVs in Canada with everyone on the
list.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
| Subject: | Homebuilts to U.S. |
Has anyone tried the new procedure for flying homebuilts to the U.S.? What
has your experience with it been? It looks like a huge improvement over the
old system.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 tail (still!)
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
| Subject: | Looking for Editor |
I'm looking for someone willing to take over editing the Western Canada
RVator. Please contact me off the list if you're interested.
The Western Canada RVator is the newsletter of Van's Air Force Western
Canada Wing. For those of you not familiar with the wing, our newsletter
publishes four times a year, and we have about 70 members in Alberta, BC,
and Saskatchewan (none so far in Manitoba, as I recall). The newsletter is
fairly simple to produce, and I have a full "can" of articles for future
issues. I'm trying pare down some of my commitments, to free up more time
for building.
I think it's good if the editor is an active builder, but it's really not
necessary. I actually think it's a great activity for someone interested in
RVs, but not yet building. That's how I started, and I found it a great way
to learn a lot and get to know RVers world-wide. I write very little of the
material myself. Most of it comes from email discussions, web sites, and
articles shared by other RVators. There are at least a dozen RV-related
newsletters in the U.S. and Canada, and we all share articles freely. That
means each newsletter only needs to come up with one good article each issue
from its own members and there's plenty to go around. There is no shortage
of knowledgeable RV builders willing to share their knowledge. My problem
has been more one of selecting between good articles so I don't exceed my
self-imposed limit of eight pages.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 tail
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
I noticed a picture and write-up of Tracy Saylor's RV-6 in the latest Sport
Aviation. I'd seen this plane at Arlington, but didn't look at it too
closely. Tracy's done a bunch of things to make his -6 fast: small, round
cowl inlets; cooling air plenum; airfoil gear-leg fairings;
pressure-recovery wheel pants; and electronic ignition.
I'm wondering what sorts of things other people are doing, or plan to do, to
improve the speed of their RV?
I like the look of cooling-air plenums. Does anyone have any hard data on
their effectiveness at reducing cooling drag? Any thoughts on how to design
and build one?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 tail
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tedd/
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
| Subject: | Ship Kits to Alberta? |
I've recently been advised that the BC government has extended its generous
provincial sales tax program to kit airplane parts. That means that BC
builders now have the honour of contributing to the province's many fine
government programs each time they buy a kit.
Seriously, though, I'm investigating the possibility of bringing my kit in
wing kit is enough to justify the trip. Does anyone have any suggestions
how best to do that? How do those of you in Alberta normally get your kits?
Do you have them shipped to somewhere in Montana, then pick them up? Or do
you have them delivered directly to you? Is there somewhere (preferably in
Calgary) that I can have my wing kit shipped to that will hold it until I
get there? What about Customs brokerage?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC (Bring Cash)
-6 tail
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| From: | Tim Houle <thoule(at)kneehill.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Ship Kits to Alberta? |
recently been advised that the BC government has extended its generous
>provincial sales tax program to kit airplane parts. That means that BC
>builders now have the honour of contributing to the province's many fine
>government programs each time they buy a kit.
Ted, you should really move out of that communist province - join us rednecks
>
>Seriously, though, I'm investigating the possibility of bringing my kit in
>wing kit is enough to justify the trip. Does anyone have any suggestions
>how best to do that? How do those of you in Alberta normally get your kits?
>Do you have them shipped to somewhere in Montana, then pick them up? Or do
>you have them delivered directly to you? Is there somewhere (preferably in
>Calgary) that I can have my wing kit shipped to that will hold it until I
>get there? What about Customs brokerage?
have it shipped to Calgary, customs brokrage is a snap - pay the GST and
get a slip of paper that you take to a bonded warehouse to pick up your
crates. If you leave it at the warehouse too long they charge you storage.
hope this helps
Tim Houle
Three Hills, Alberta
right wing in the jig
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
| Subject: | Ship Kits to Alberta? |
>
> Ted, you should really move out of that communist province -
> join us rednecks
BC can be pretty hard to take. (ICBC charges 10 times as much for the same
insurance coverage on my motorcycle that I had in Edmonton. Not twice as
much; not three times as much; 10 time as much! So my bike sits idle.) But
that's off-topic.
> have it shipped to Calgary, customs brokrage is a snap - pay
> the GST and
> get a slip of paper that you take to a bonded warehouse to
> pick up your
> crates. If you leave it at the warehouse too long they charge
> you storage.
Sounds like the thing to do. Thanks, Tim.
Tedd
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
| Subject: | Favourite Places to Fly |
Yesterday, Randall Henderson made a post to the RV List about good places to
fly to in the gulf islands. That got me thinking: where are people's
favourite places to fly in Canada? I've visited the Hundred Dollar
Hamburger (Canada) web site
http://www.100dollarhamburger.com/can.html
I've even posted a review there myself. So that's a good starting point.
But, to be more RV-specific, where are the places that people like to go in
their RVs, and why?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 tail
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tedd/
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
| Subject: | Favourite Places to Fly |
>
Ha, I asked a question and didn't even try to answer it myself!
Well, I haven't flown anywhere in an RV yet. But my favourite places to
visit within RV-range of where I live are Chilliwack (CYCW) and
Texada/Gilles Bay (CYGB). Chilliwack has a decent restaurant (with great
pie), and some interesting planes to look at. Gilles Bay has (off field) a
terrific little restaurant, and it's a beautiful place to visit. My "home"
airfield, Delta Heritage Air Park (AK3) is definitely worth a visit, too.
I've heard Pender Island is worth the trip, but haven't made it myself.
Further from home, and for a more rustic experience, I'm very partial to
Bowron Lake Lodge (AK3), and in Alberta: Wolf Lake (FU7), Ram Falls (FH5),
and another place north-west of Whitecourt that I can't remember the name
of. Any ideas?
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 tail
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tedd/
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| Subject: | Re: Favourite Places to Fly |
| From: | wdmead <wdmead(at)compusmart.ab.ca> |
from Edmonton there are only a few places close by to go.
Undoubtedly the best is the Wetaskwin Museum and Aviation Hall of Fame.
You can fly in, taxi up to the door see two great museums and there is a
very good 'snack bar"
Otherwise only Villeneuve has a restaurant where you can get more than a
coffee and donut.
If you come to our field "Bodell International" call me first and I will
meet you there and offer free coffee, tea, and cookies ( in season )
At CYXD the Edmonton Flying Club has an excellent restaurant and lots of
people to talk to.
In Red Deer there is a snack bar.
In Lethbridge there is a restaurant.
Try never to enter a local terminal from the airplane side. Find a side
gate and enter from the street side. They have an ugly habit out here of
charging a $10 fee for walking through the arrivals door.
A place I like although I haven't been there this year is, Edson where
you can land, walk about a half mile to the nearest restaurant and have a
fine time with your friends.
I will ask the members of the EHAA and see what they can add.
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
| Subject: | Favourite Places to Fly |
>
> A place I like although I haven't been there this year is,
> Edson where
> you can land, walk about a half mile to the nearest
> restaurant and have a
> fine time with your friends.
One of my favourites, and I forgot all about it! Yes, Edson is a good place
to visit. I think the restaurant Dave's referring to is the Castle
restaurant. This is a quirky little Chinese restaurant, run by a quirky
little Chinese guy who's name escapes me. He loves to chat with visiting
pilots, and will tell you all his theories about nutrition and healthy
eating, whether you want to hear them or not!
Only a few miles south of Edson is Wolf Lake, which I mentioned in my
previous post. It's right next to Wolf Lake provincial park and, of course,
Wolf Lake itself. Definitely worth the side trip. Be sure to do a
touch-and-go to the check the surface; the grass is sometimes a bit soggy.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 tail
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tedd/
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
We had an interesting discussion on the homebuilt regs last night, at the
RAA Ch.85 meeting.
Apparently, there is some precedent for the 51 percent rule being
interpreted as 51 percent _assembled_ by the builder. Not _fabricated_.
For example, someone recently repaired a crash-damaged Navion, put an auto
engine in it, and registered it as a homebuilt. This was apparently
accepted by TC. Does anyone know more about this?
If this interpretation becomes generally accepted, it will open up a huge
range of possibilities for projects. Not much effect on RV builders,
specifically, but an interesting change in the homebuilt movement in
general, perhaps.
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6 tail
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/tedd/
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)idacom.hp.com> |
A local tool vendor carries JET air tools. They are reasonably inexpensive,
but don't look especially cheap. Does anyone have comments on the quality
of these tools? (They don't have any riveting stuff, just general air
tools--drills, nibblers, shears, angle drills, etc.).
Tedd McHenry
Surrey, BC
-6
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | JPI vs. Matronics Settlement Reached... |
Dear Listers,
After seven months of negotiations, JP Instruments, Inc. and Matronics
have reached a mutually agreeable settlement. As most of you are aware,
in February of this year, JP Instruments, Inc. alleged that Matronics'
use of the trademark "FuelScan" with its aircraft fuel management system
infringed upon JP Instruments, Inc's trademark "Scanner" for engine
temperature indicators. JP Instruments, Inc. requested that Matronics
discontinue the use of the "FuelScan" mark. After considerable
negotiations, we have come to an agreement whereby JP Instruments, Inc.
will purchase the FuelScan trademark and, if necessary, assist in paying
the cost of Matronics' adoption of a new trademark. Matronics will
continue to sell and market its aircraft fuel management system under
the FuelScan trademark until a phase-out period of up to one year is
completed. This will allow Matronics time to sell out its current stock
of units marked with the FuelScan trademark and to develop a new
trademark.
While negotiations have been a bit trying at times, I would like to say
that I am satisfied with the outcome, and feel that JP Instruments, Inc.
has treated Matronics and me fairly in this matter. Furthermore, I
would encourage you to consider JP Instruments for your aircraft
avionics in the future as they manufacture an excellent product line.
Finally, I would like to thank everyone from around the world for their
support and consideration in this matter. I was quite moved by the
support - both financial and in the form of letters and comments - that
builders and pilots provided me and my company during this time. I
never felt alone during this period, and so very much appreciated the
encouragement from thousands of my friends! Thank you so very much!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
President, Matronics
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Warren Gretz <gretz_aero(at)h2net.net> |
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| Subject: | Heated Pitot Tubes |
Greetings to the List,
I just received a new supply of heated pitot tubes. They are the
PH502-12CR (this used to be called the AN5812), and the AN5814-1. Both
styles of these pitot tubes are 12 volt and only come in a chrome
finish. The PH502-12CR has only the dynamic source for the air speed
indicator, but the AN5814 has a heated static source as well and it
looks good. I sell the PH502-12CR for $135 and the AN5814 is $199.
I also sell the mounting bracket kits to hold the pitot to your
aircraft. These are also available in the same chrome finish as the
pitot tubes to make a beautiful installation. These mouning bracket kits
come with all the parts needed for the installation and come with some
detailed instructions and photos of the process. This kit will work on
either a metal airplane or composite. The price of the mounting bracket
kits is $105.
All of my prices INCLUDE shipping in the US.
I have other products that may be of interest to you. If you would like
a set of flyers on my products, provide me with you US Postal Mail
address and I will send you a set.
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
3664 East Lake Drive
Littleton, CO 80121
303-770-3811
gretz_aero(at)h2net.net
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | [Please Read] List Fund Raiser Continues; LOC #1 December |
1st!
Greetings Listers!
Don't forget the 1999 List Fund Raiser is still in progress and there is
still plenty of time to make a Contribution and assure yourself a place
on on the first List Of Contributors (LOC)! I will post the first LOC
on December 1st and it will detail everyone that has generously made a
Contribution so far this year!!
It costs a great deal to maintain the Email and Web server systems and
high-speed Internet connection that provide the Email List services
found here. I won't even mention the many, many hours I spend each week
running the Lists, doing backups, handling subscription requests, and
creating new email and web features and services such as the Archive
Search Engine, and Archive Browser... Whoops; I think I just did! :-)
This year's Fund Raiser started out pretty slow and I was starting to
think that no one appreciated me anymore... ;-) But, in the last week
or so things have really started to pick up! So if you haven't made a
Contribution yet this year, why not join your email List friends and
make a contribution today to support the continued operation of these
Lists!
There are two easy methods for making your Contribution:
* Make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard,
surf over to:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html
* Make a Contribution by check, send US Mail to:
Matronics
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
I would like to sincerely thank everyone who has already made a
Contribution so far this year! I greatly appreciate your generosity and
support and want you to know that these Lists have been made possible
directly by *YOU*!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Your Email List Administrator
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | 1999 List of Contributors #1 and a Special Thank You Message!! |
Dear Listers,
I would like to personally thank each and everyone that has contributed
this year to 1999 List Fund Raiser! As you can see from the list of
names below, there were many, many generous people from the Lists this
time around and I want everyone to know just how much your support has
meant to me. The list of members below includes those that have
contributed during this year's List Fund Raiser as well as those that
have contributed throughout the year and also those that made a donation
to my Legal Defense Fund earlier in the year that was sponsored my our
own Bob Nuckolls of Aero Electric.
I want everyone to know just how much it means to me to receive the type
of financial support for these Lists that I have this year. As the Lists
have grown so much over the last few years, so have the equipment costs
as well as the monthly costs such as the Internet connectivity. Your
generosity during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year, truly makes
the continued operation, and more importantly, the continued upgrade and
improvement of these aviation-related services directly possible. That
is the bottom line. Please accept my most sincere appreciation of the
amazing and, at times, overwhelming generosity of so many of you
wonderful people! Thank you!!
For those of you that didn't quite get your contribution in on time for
this first List of Contributors - be it by check or by credit card - I
will be posting a followup List of Contributors #2 for 1999 in a few
weeks to make sure that I properly acknowledge each and everyone of the
generous List members. One last time, the addresses to make a contribution
are:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or
Matt Dralle
c/o Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Finally, thank you all so much for your support this year both in terms
of the financial contribution but also in the form of the letters and
moral support during what can only be categorized as a very stressful and
unsettling time. And I think you know what I'm referring to... Your
support and encouragement meant more to me than you'll ever know. I felt
as if I had 2500 friends all behind me, and that's a *powerful* force!
Well done one and all! Thank you!
Best regards for the upcoming year.
Your Email List Administrator,
Matt Dralle
RV-4 Builder #1763
=================== 1999 List of Contributors #1 ====================
Abell, John
Acker, Rob
Adams, Bob
Adamson, Larry
Ahamer, Karl
Albachten, Rudy III
Alcazar, Jesus
Allen, Brent
Allison, Steven
Ammeter, John
Amundsen, Blair
Anderson, Edward
Armstrong, Robert
Arnold, James
Aronson, David
Ashford, James
Ashton, Kent
Atkinson, Harold
Baggett, Robert
Baker, Gary
Baker, Ray
Baldwin, James
Barlow, Melvin
Barnes, Thomas
Barnes, Tom
Barnhart, Dave
Barrenechea, Godo
Battles, Brenton
BB Diversified Services, LTD
Bechtel, Amos
Bell, Bruce
Belted Air Power LTD.
Benhan, Dallas
Bennett, Peter
Besing, Paul
Bieber, Mike
Bilodeau, Paul
Bird, Carroll
Blanton, Stan
Bleier, Roger
Blomgren, Jack
Blum, Ronald
Boadright, Kyle
Boardman, Don III
Boatright, Kyle
Boatright, Robert
Bodie, Pete
Bonesteel, Wayne
Booze, Gregory
Borne, Charles
Bourgeois, Rion
Bourne, Larry
Bovan Pe, Vaso
Bowen, Larry
Bowen, Miles
Bower, Bob
Bowhay, Eustace
Bowman, Brian R
Boyd, Rodney
Branscomb, Warren
Bray, Garrett
Brian Lloyd
Brick, John
Bridgham, David
Brogley, Mike
Brooks, Chris
Brooks, John
Brott, Marvin
Brown, Kent
Brown, Scott
Buckwalter, David - Avionics Systems
Burlingame, Ralph
Burnham, Dave
Calhoun, Ronald
Calvert, Jerry
Cantrell, Ken
Capen, Ralph
Cardinal, Gregory
Carey, Christopher
Carr, David
Carter, Jerry
Carter, Ron
Casey, Jeremy
Chapple, Glen
Chesnut, Bruce
Chesnut, William
Christensen, Peter
Christie, William
Churchill, Frank
Ciolino, John
Clabots, Gerald
Clark, Howard
Clark, James
Clary, Buck
Clay, Dennis
Cloughley, Bill
Cole, Ed
Colontonio, Moe
Colucci, Anthoney
Conaway, James
Cook, David Sr.
Cooley, John
Copeland, Forrest
Corder, Michael
Corriveau, Grant
Cotter, Timothy
Cox, Carson
Croby, Harry
Crosley, Richard
Cullen, Chuck
Czinkota, Garnet
Dall, Richard
Daudt, Larry
Davidson, Jeff
Davis, Christopher
Davis, Jared
Davis, Steve - The Panel Pilot
Davis, William
Day, Robert
Deffner, David
Del Peso, Jose
Derrik, Chuck
Desmond, Richard
Devine, Steven
Devlin, John
Dewees, Ron
Dial, J.R.
Dominey, Clifford
Dorsey, Bob
Downing, Jeff
Dubroc, Tommy
Dudley, Richard
Duffy, Russell
Duncan, John
Dunlap, E.T.
Dziewiontkoski, Bob
Eagleston, Ron
Eagleston, Ronald
Eastburn, James
Elder, William
Elhai, Irv
Emrath, Marty
Ensing, Dale
Ervin, Thomas
Erwin, Chip - Czech Aircraft Works
Evans, Monte
Exstrom, Daniel
Faile, David
Farrar, Jeffrey
Farris, Paul
Fetzer, George
Fiedler, Mike
Filucci, Michael - Red Dragon Aviaion
Finch, K
Flaherty, Edward
Floyd, Joseph
Ford, David
Forrest, Gerald
Forsting, Robert
Fortner, Earl
Four Star Products
Frank, Dan
Franz, Carl
Frazier, Vince
Frederick, Mark
French, Edwin
Friedman, Frank
Froehlich, Carl
Fromm, John
Fry, John
Funk, Edwin Jr.
Funnell, Augustus
George, William
Gilbert, Mark
Giusti, Roberto
Glaser, Arthur
Glass, Roy
Glover, Ken
Gold, Andy - Builder's Book Store
Goldberg, Mark
Good, Chris
Gooding, Lawrence
Goolsby, Jim
Gott, Shelby
Goudreault, Jacques
Graham, James Jr.
Grant, Jordan
Griffin, Bill
Griffin, Randy
Groom, Larry
Guillosso, Alain
Hale, Michael
Hales, Sherman
Hall, Bob
Hall, Thomas
Hamer, Steven
Hamilton, Thom
Hamilton, William
Hand, Chris
Hansen, Ronald
Hargis, Merle
Harmon, John
Harper, Malcom
Harrill, Roy
Harris, John
Hart, Daniel
Harvey, Doug
Hassall, J.C.
Hastedt, Margaret
Hatch, Fletcher III
Hatcher, Clive
Hatfield, Cecil
Hays, Wes
Henderson, George
Henderson, Randall
Heritch, Ian
Herndon, Richard
Herren, Bill
Hevern, Jerry
Hiatt, Mark
Hiers, Craig
Hinch, Christopher
Hine, Joe
Hinkley, Curtis
Hinrichsen, James
Hodge, Jack
Hodgson, Bob
Hodson, Frank
Hoffman, Carl
Holcombe, Richard
Horton, Kevin
Hoshowski, Ken
Hrycauk, Dave
Hughes, Robert
Hulen, Fred
Hundley, Richard
Hurd, James
Hurlbut, Steve
Hutcheson, Ken
Ihlenburg, Fred
Ingram, Jim
Irace, Bill
Irwin, Eric
Isler, Jerry
Ivers, James
James, Larry
Janes, Bob
Janicki, Steven
Japundza, Bob
Jeens, Ken
Johannsson, Johann
Johnson, Jackie
Johnson, Stephen
Jones, Bryan
Jones, Rob
Jones, Russ
Jonker, Bill
Jordan, Thomas
Jory, Rick
Kampthorne, Hal
Kayner, Dennis
Keithley, Rick
King, Da Ve
Kirby, Dennis
Kirby, Graham
Kirtland, Charles
Kitz, John
Knezacek, Dan
Knievel, Gerald
Knoll, Bruce
Kosta, Michael
Kowalski, Ed
Krueger, Dan
Krueger, Scott
Kuss, Charlie
Laczko, Frank Sr.
Lamb, Richard
Lane, Kevin
Lassen, Finn
Laurence, Peter
Laverty, Mike
Lawson, John
Leaf, Dave
Lee, John
Lee, Ric
LeGare, Garry
Leggette, Len
Leonard, William
Lerohl, Gaylen
Lervold, Randy
Lewis, Terry
Lewis, Tim
Ligon, Howard
Lind, Laird
Linebaugh, Jeffrey
Loeber, Wayne
Ludeman, Bruce
Lutes, Rick
Mac Donald, Lawrence
MacKay, Alex
Malczynski, Francis
Mandell, Tom
Marino, Anthony
Marion, Chris
Markert, Michael
Marshall, Robert
Martin, Tom
Maxson, Phil
Mazatuad, Mme Hyun Sook
McElhoe, Bruce
McFarlane, Lloyd
McGee, Michael
McHarry, Joe
McHenry, Tedd
McKibben, Gerald
McNamara, Don
Melder, Frank
Melia, Tom
Metzger, Stephen
Meyers, John
Miller, Jim & Dondi - Aircraft Technical Support
Mitchell, Duane
Moen, Craig
Mojzisik, Allan
Molzen, Jason
Mondy, Malia
Moore, Thomas
Moore, Warren
Morelli, Bill
Morelli, William
Morris, Daniel III
Morrison, Mark
Morrow, Dan
Moulin, Roger
Munn, Mike
Murphy, Ray Jr.
Neal, Danny
Nellis, Michael
Nelson, James
Nelson, Jim
Newell, Alan
Nguyen, Thomas
Nice, James
Nicely, Vincent
Norris, Rob
Nowakowski, Donald
Noyer, Robert
Nuckolls, Robert
Olendorf, Scott
Olson, Larry
Olson, Tom
Orear, Jeffrey
Owens, Laird
Palinkas, Gary
Pardue, Larry
Paulson, Craig
Peck, Bill & Kathy
Peer, Michael - Jem Aviation
Peryk, Dennis
Peternel, Stanley
Petersen, Eric
Petersen, Paul
Peterson, Alex
Pflanzer, Randy
Phillips, Mark
Pickrell, Jim
Pike, Richard
Pinneo, George
Pittenger, Dick
Plathey, Claude
Point, Jeff
Polstra, Philip
Porter, Richard
Porter, Robert
Potter, Mark
Pretzsch, Robert
Ragsdale, Bill
Randolph, George
Ransom, Ben
Rathbun, Richard
Reeck, Jay
Reed, Derek
Reed, Frank
Reisdorfer, Mark
Reynolds, Richard
Richardson, Ray - Powersport Aviation Inc.
Riedlinger, Paul
Riley, Stuart
Roach, Brian
Rodgers, Brian
Rosales, Paul
Rowbotham, Charles
Rowles, Les
Rozendaal, Doug
Rutherford, Ted
Sa, Carlos
Sager, Jim
Sailer, Martin
SanClemente, Andrew
Sapp, Doug
Sargent, Tom
Sax, Samuel
Schemmel, Grant
Schippers, John
Schmitt, Clayton
Schneeflock, Robert
Schrimmer, Mark
Schwarz, Guillermo
Selby, Jim - JKL Aviation Sales
Seward, Douglas
Shackleford, Howard
Shafer, Jim
Shank, Bill
Sheets, Douglas
Shenk, Doug
Shepherd, Dallas
Shettel, Maurice
Shipley, Walter
Sigmon, Harvey
Silverstein, Chuck
Sipp, Dick
Slaughter, Mike
Small, Thomas
Smith, Clayton
Smith, Edmund
Smith, Philip
Smith, Shelby
Smithey, Lloyd
Snyder, David
Solecki, John
Sparks, Timothy
Stafford, David
Staub, Skip
Steer, Bill
Stobbe, Bruce
Stoffers, Larry
Stone, James
Strandjord, Eric
Swaney, Mark
Tauch, Eric
Tauchen, Bryan
Taylor, Tod
Team Rocket
Thayer, George
Therrien, Michel
Thistelthwaite, Geoffrey
Thoman, Daniel
Thomas, Lee
Thomas, Tim
Thompson, Michael
Todd, John
Tompkins, Jeff
Tower, John
True, George
Tucker, Harold
Tuton, Beauford
Tyrrel, Charles
Upshur, Bill
Uribe, Guillermo
Uribe, Gullermo
Utterback, Thomas
Van Der Sanden, Gert
Vandervort, Ronald
VanGrunsven, Stanley
Varnes, William
Volum, Peter
Von Ruden, Dennis
VonLindern, Paul
Vosberg, Roy
Waligroski, Gregg
Walker, Tommy
Walrath, Howard
Ward, Ed
Warren, John
Washburn, Oliver
Watson, Dennis
Watson, Terrence
Watson, William
Webb, Randol
Weber, Ed
Weber, Edward
Weller, Michael
Wendel, Jim
Wentzell, David
Werner, Russ
Werner, Russell
Westridge, David
Whelan, Thomas
Whiler, Douglas
Whitehead, Arthur
Wiesel, Dan
Wigney, John
Williams, Jimmy
Williams, Keith
Williams, Lawrence
Willig, Louis
Wills, Mike
Wilson, Billy
Wittman, James
Wood, Denton
Wood, John
Wood, Mark
Worstell, Glen
Worthington, Victor
Wotring, Dale
Wymer, Gerald
Young, Charles
Young, Rollin
Youngblood, Barry
Zeidman, Richard
Zigaitis, Kestutis
Zinkham, Ralph
Zwart, Frank
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | 1999 List of Contributors #2! |
Dear Listers,
Below is the final List of Contributors for 1999 as promised. Again, I
would like to thank everyone that made a generous contribution in 1999
to support the continued operation of these email Lists. Your support
directly makes the quality and quantity of this service possible.
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
EMail List Administrator
RV-4 Builder, #1763 - N442RV
=================== 1999 List of Contributors #2 ====================
Adamson, Arden
Allender, Patrick
Anonymous from MN
Asher, M.E.
Baxter, Rob
Bell, Doug
Bendure, Ryan
Bergh, David
Berrie, Robert
Blake, J.I.
Boucher, Michel
Bragg, Medford
Briegleb, Ross
Brietigam, Charles
Broomell, Glenn
Brusilow, Michael
Chatham, Robert
Clary, Buck
Coats, Lonnie
Cook, Craig - Golf Instruments Co.
Cooper, James
Cribb, William Jr.
Crosby, Harry
Dane, Bill Von
Dziewiontkoski, Bob
Ellenberger, Mike
Embree, Roger
Faatz, Mitch
Fasching, John
Gibbons, Robert
Glauser, David
Gold, Andy -Builder's Bookstore 10%
Gregory, Steve
Grenier, Raymond
Guarino, Michael
H., Harold - E.P.M.AV Corp
Hale, Brian
Hunt, Wallace
Johnston, Leroy
Jordon, Don
Killion, Clay
Klingmuller, Dr. L.M.
Magaw, David
Mains, Ralph
Maltby, Michael
Martin, Cliff - Martin Metal Fab
Mazataud, Hyun Sook
McBride, Duncan
McDonald, James
Mendenhall, Elbie - E.M Aviation
Mitchell, Duane
Morley, Harold
Peck, Phil
Pessel, Garnett
Rodebush, James
Ross, Jonathan
Schmidt, John
Scully, William
Smith, Steven
Spence, Stephen
Triff, Wes
Wagoner, Richard
Weaver, Brian
Wiegenstein, John
Wiley, Robert
Wilson, Donald
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Confusion Over "List of Contributors"... |
Hi Listers,
I'm really sorry for the confusion over the most recent posting of the
List of Contributors #2. List #2 contained only the contributor names
*since* the List #1 was posted. So, if you weren't on List #2, you were
likely on List #1. Below are URLs to each of the LOC #x postings.
Again, sorry for the confusion. I should have made it more clear in
the verbiage.
Thanks to everyone,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================
List of Contributors #1 - 1999
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http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
List of Contributors #2 - 1999
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http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Re: (Whoops) Confusion Over "List of Contributors"... |
>
>Okay, here are the *real* URLs. Sorry...
>
>
>Matt Dralle
>Email List Admin.
>
>
>============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================
>
>
> List of Contributors #1 - 1999
> ------------------------------
>
>
>http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_
>of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
>
>
> List of Contributors #2 - 1999
> ------------------------------
>
>
>http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_
>of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=YES
>
>
>============================================================================
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Re: (No, Really - Here are the URLs) Confusion Over "List |
of Contributors"...
Geeze, I can't seem to type today. Here are the *real*, *REAL* URLs.
Sorry for so many posts... Ack
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================
List of Contributors #1 - 1999
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http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
List of Contributors #2 - 1999
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http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
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http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd_mchenry(at)agilent.com> |
| Subject: | Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing |
Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing is offering membership to new members
$5, for the remainder of 2000. (It's normally $10 per year.) Membership
includes a subscription to our newsletter, the Western Canada RVator. If
you like, for $15 you can join to the end of 2001.
If you want to join, write me at tedd(at)compuserve.com. I will also send a
sample newsletter to anyone on the list who's interested (in PDF format,
652k).
Here's a sample of RVator articles from last year.
Equipping Your RV for IFR Flight?
Glareshield Integral Lighting
Rational Self-training
Drag Percentages
RV Landing Techniques
More on Auto Engine Endurance
A Modern FADEC System
Fuses or Circuit Breakers?
Oshkosh RV Banquet
Soapbox: Bolts and Safety
RV Builders Directory
The Mike Seager Program
Firewall Recess (and other tips)
Tools for Beginning Builders
Shielded Wire?
Pneumatic Dimpling
Builder's Tips
Store That Engine Properly
RV Altitude Record
JPI v. Matronics
Lycoming Crank Plug Failures
Homer Rogers's RV-6A
Care and Feeding of Lycomings
Rough Engine with Conical Mounts
The Western Canada RVator doesn't reprint anything from Van's RVator,
because most of our members already subscribe to it. Our material comes
from other RVators with whom we share articles, newsgroups and listservers
like this one, and submissions from members.
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing
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| From: | Sam Knight <knightair(at)lv.rmci.net> |
| Subject: | Knight Upholstery New Lower Prices |
RV Builders:
I have been in the upholstery business for 28 years and have been making
upholstery products for kitplanes for 16 years. I have interior kits
available for RV-4, RV-6, RV-6A, and RV-8. I also have cabin covers and
other items. I am the supplier of upholstery products for several kitplane
manufacturers. A list of other kitplane interior products available upon
request.
For more information, call Knight Aircraft Interiors, Inc., at (702)
207-6681 or e-mail me at knightair(at)lv.rmci.net. If you e- mail for
information, please mention either "Knight" or "Upholstery" in your
reference line so I can give your request my immediate attention. Photos
available upon request.
Sincerely,
KNIGHT AIRCRAFT INTERIORS, INC.
"Fly by Knight" Upholstery Products
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem... |
Listers,
I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's
Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem
*ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are
*not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should
use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be
developed.
IMPORTANT:
If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the
following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of
the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly
received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape
Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer
is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are:
RVCanada-List
RVEurope-List
Skymaster-List
SmithMini-List
Sonerai-List
Tailwind-List
Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem
and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a
problem.
I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution
to this problem.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
"Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem..." (Feb 15, 10:19am)
| Subject: | Re: Web Subscription Page Operation for Internet Explorer |
Restored...
Dear Listers,
I have rewritten the web page and CGI code for processing List
Subscription Requests to now be more compatible with command line
limitations of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and some very
old versions of Netscape. The page seems to be working fine
now on whatever browser I try. Please feel free to resume
your normal List Subscription habits.
The URL is: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
>--------------
>
>
>Listers,
>
>I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's
>Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at
>http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem
>*ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are
>*not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should
>use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be
>developed.
>
>IMPORTANT:
>
>If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the
>following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of
>the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly
>received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape
>Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer
>is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are:
>
> RVCanada-List
> RVEurope-List
> Sailplane-List
> Seaplane-List
> Skymaster-List
> SmithMini-List
> Sonerai-List
> Tailwind-List
> Ultralight-List
> Warbird-List
> Yak-List
> Zenith-List
>
>
>Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem
>and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a
>problem.
>
>I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution
>to this problem.
>
>Sorry for the inconvenience,
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Admin.
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925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Warren Gretz <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com> |
list-aerobatic ,
list-aviation ,
list-avionics ,
list-beech ,
list-cessna ,
list-engines ,
list-ez ,
list-glasair ,
list-homebuilt ,
list-lancair ,
list-piper ,
list-rocket ,
list-rvcanada ,
list-seaplane ,
list-tailwind ,
list-warbird ,
list-yak ,
list-zenith
| Subject: | New Gretz Aero website! |
Greetings to all,
I am glad to announce that my new webpage is up and running. If you
would like to see the aircraft products I offer, and the information I
provide on options for equipment installed on aircraft, you may want to
check out my website. Be sure to bookmark this site as it will continue
to grow.
The webpage address is:
http://www.gretzaero.com
I hope you find it interesting.
Warren Gretz
Gretz Aero
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | NOTICE: Matronics Web Server Back Online... |
Dear Email Listers,
The Matronics Web and FTP server is finally back online! What a
nightmare... But at least its finally done and in all honesty the
system is running much better. Everything should be working now
including the Search Engine, Archive Browser, various List-related
pages, Matronics Product Pages, Online Ordering, Real Video server
and Contribution pages.
Again, I'm sorry it took so long to get things back - way longer than I
ever intended.
Have fun!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Tedd McHenry" <tedd_mchenry(at)agilent.com> |
I've added a new section to the Western Canada Wing web site, with plans for
tools you can make yourself.
We have two sets of plans so far. The first is for a sheet metal brake, and
these were contributed by Ken Hoshowski. The second is for a pair of
fluting pliers that I desigened and built myself.
The plans are in PDF format. Look in the contents column at
www.vansairforce.org.
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd(at)vansairforce.org
http://www.vansairforce.org
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ: Network Problems To Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
My ISP is upgrading their network today 4/30 and tomorrow 5/1. I
noticed that Nameservice (DNS) went down last night around 3am which
causes all sorts of problems. If your message post was rejected between
about 3am 4/30 and 1pm 4/30, please repost as it was rejected do to the
DNS being down. I've redirected my systems to a different DNS server in
the mean time and things seem to be working right now. In any case, be
aware that there may be continuing issues over the next couple of days
both posting email messages and accessing the web server.
My ISP *promises* that things are going to be so much better after the
upgrade! We'll see... ;-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
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| From: | nathan dement <ndement(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RVCanada-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 07/10/00 |
I am interested in purchasing an RV-6A or RV-8A
But I can't figure out how to ship it to Honolulu,
Hawaii?
>If I can't buy one I guess I'll purchase a RV-9A and
try to build it...
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com> |
| Subject: | Room at OSH available |
Well, my on-again off-again plans for OSH are off again, at least for most
of it, so the room I had reserved will be available. This is a room with a
queen bed in a nice house with central air. The hostess, Sharon Hawkins,
provides continental breakfast. She works the EAA too so it should be
possible to catch a ride with her to and from the show when she goes. The
house is close to a bus line so you can get to/from that way too. Its
available for the whole show.
If interested, contact Sharon Hawkins, 920-232-8554.
Please email me if you get the room so I can get my deposit back.
Randall Henderson
randall(at)edt.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com> |
| Subject: | Room at OSH taken |
Looks like the room I posted at OSH (Sharon Hawkins') has been taken
(Charlie, be sure to let me and/or the list know if anything changes.)
I will in fact be going but not until Friday or Saturday, and I'll just
camp. Look forward to seeing y'all!
Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~100 hrs)
Portland, OR
http://www.edt.com/homewing
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| From: | "B. Riesen" <briesenjr(at)prodigy.net> |
"RVCanada-List Digest List"
| Subject: | Re: RVCanada-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 08/04/00 |
please remove my name and e-mail address from your mailing list. Thank
you..
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com> |
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil> |
| Subject: | RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe |
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List.
V/R,
David Foelker
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| From: | larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com> |
| Subject: | RV4-List: (no subject) |
--> RV4-List message posted by: larry laporte
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil> |
| Subject: | RV4-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe |
--> RV4-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List.
V/R,
David Foelker
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| From: | Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil> |
| Subject: | RV-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe |
--> RV-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List.
V/R,
David Foelker
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| From: | larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com> |
| Subject: | RV-List: (no subject) |
--> RV-List message posted by: larry laporte
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you
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User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630)
| Subject: | Liability in Canada |
| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net> |
I received an email from Ted Schmidt, a Career Education Co-ordinator who's
school has an aviation course through which they hope to have students build
a Zenair Zodiac.
Ted is concerned about the legal liability involved. Specifically, I think
he's concerned that the school could be liable indefinitely for any accident
the airplane is involved in. If you have some expertise in Canadian
aviation law, and are willing to talk to Ted about it, please contact me.
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd(at)vansairforce.org
www.vansairforce.org
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | A Season of Giving - Please Support Your List! |
Dear Listers,
As my good friend Al Mojzisik from the RV-List forum has pointed out in
his humorous style this morning, its time for the Annual List Fund
Raiser! For those that are new to the Lists since last year, I'd like
to just mention what its all about. I have always run the List services
here completely free of charge to the members. This includes the Email
Lists, Archive Search Engine, as well as some of the other goodies found
on the servers. My policy has always been that I will never charge a
'fee' to sign up for any of the email Lists and I have also turned down
a number potentially lucrative of 'commercial' offers to provide
advertising space either on the various web pages or on in each of the
outgoing emails. I have always graciously declined these offers,
however, because I have felt that the friendly, homey feeling of the
commercial-free site was very appealing. I have also felt that offering
the services here for free is the best way to stimulate the greatest
membership, and in my opinion, this is the most important element in the
success of a forum such as this. So, once again, I will restate my
commitment to always keeping all of the services here on the Matronics
servers free to everyone.
That being said, I must also say that running this system is far from
free for me, however. I am continually trying to provide the best, most
reliable service possible and have continued to upgrade the systems as
necessary to maintain or improve the level of service I provide. Quite
aside from the "real costs" involved in the maintenance of a service
like this, however, is the time commitment necessary to keep everything
running and time required to produce new and improved software
enhancements to make the whole experience more enjoyable for everyone.
On the average I spend 10 to 20 hours a week handling subscription
requests and related problems, maintaining the existing computer code
base, and developing new utilities for the List community.
The whole List site (web server and email server) continue to run across
the 768kb/sec DSL-based Internet connection. Connections to the servers
have generally been pretty reliable and performance has been good. Up
time for the connection has approached the 99% mark.
If you regularly enjoy the services provided here, I would ask that you
make a Contribution in any amount in which you are comfortable. Your
Contribution will be used to directly support the continued operation
and improvement of all these services, and as always, I will turn your
Contributions back into more upgrades and improvements. It is truly an
investment in the future of these Lists.
To make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard,
please go to the following URL and follow the simple instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html
To make a Contribution by check, please send US Mail to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
As I have done in the past, I will post a "Contributors List" at the end
of the Fund Raiser, personally acknowledging each and everyone that has
generously made a Contribution this year!
Finally, I just want to say *Thank You* to everyone that has supported
me and my operation here this year. Your support and encouragement
means a great deal to me and I feel like I have friends literally from
all around the world!
Sincerely,
Matt Dralle
Your Email List Administrator
dralle(at)matronics.com
============================================================================
>--------------
>--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik
>
>Well folks,
>
>I hate to spring this on you without much advance warning and all but it's
>November already. For you newer List members you may not know but this is
>the time of year we all give "thanks" for all that Matte Dralle has done
>for us with this RV-List. the customary way of saying "thanks" is with a
>voluntary donation of cash through Matte's own simple and safe contribution
>hot-line at:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>It's really rather painless and actually gives you a good warm and fuzzy
>feeling inside after you have made your contribution. Now last year I
>relied heavily on guilt to get some of you harder nuts to crack to ante
>up. This year I hope that in keeping with the election year theme I can
>learn something from the experts........"It's for the children."
>
>Yes your contribution will help children everywhere learn about the high
>moral values that are inherent in the RV family of aircraft. As our young
>charges surf the Internet for information on various things that we don't
>want them to know about, they may stumble across the Matronics Website and
>become aware of the RV-List and other interesting forums that Matte
>provides. This in turn may change there lives as they see what can be
>achieved through hard work and perseverance. They will learn how the polite
>exchange of idea's between consenting adults can result in the birth of one
>(or more) of the finest aircraft in existence today. They can become aware
>of a whole world out there that had previously been unknown or out of reach
>to them. So in the interest of our children, send your contribution to
>Matte to help the RV-List live long and prosper.............Darn, got my
>tongue caught in my cheek there for a moment.
>
>Once again, you can make your contribution through credit card at:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> c/o Matt Dralle
> Matronics
> P.O. Box 347
> Livermore, CA. 94551
>
>I would like to pledge at this time that I will not place any negative
>advertising in the hope of raising funds for RV-List support. (Unless you
>folks hold out too long, then look out!) Let's have a real clean campaign
>this November and get out the contributions! AL
>--------------
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser Continues... |
Hello Listers!
This is just a reminder that the Annual List Fund Raiser is currently
underway. Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued
operation and upgrade of this valuable resource? Your Contribution can
be made via a Secure SSL Internet Transaction with your Visa or
MasterCard at the URL shown below or you may send it via US Mail to the
address also listed below.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
P.O. Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you for your support! Your generosity directly makes this List
possible.
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
--> Rocket-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | RV6-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway... |
--> RV6-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway
and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your
contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The
continued operation and improvement of these services are directly
enabled by the generous contributions of its members.
You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using
the Matronics SSL Secure website at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or with a personal check to:
c/o Matt Dralle
Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Huge Apology for "List Malfunction"... |
Dear Listers,
I am so embarrassed by the List-gone-crazy tonight! I'm not sure
exactly went wrong. I'm suspecting that someone with an email account
at msm.com may have been reposting my message from this morning over
and over again maliciously spamming the system, but I can't really
prove that.
In any case, I am hugely embarrassed and sorry for the ton of messages
that went out tonight regarding the 2000 Fund Raiser. Something went
wrong on the system or somebody did me wrong; in either case I
apologize for the huge dump of messages.
My sincerest apologies...
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented... |
Dear Listers,
With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting)
and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was
clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how
messages posted to the various Lists was handled.
As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email
program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your
message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you
include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be
accepted instead of bounced back.
But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text
will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any
HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should
serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to
increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives.
I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if
you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably
why.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim Ivey <jim(at)jimivey.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Yak-List: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented... |
Everything you need to know can be found at the following url:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution/
I just used the secure credit-card option. There is also a snail-mail
address for you old-fashioned types (i.e. back in the good old days when
folks wouldn't abscond with your credit card info) ;)
Jim Ivey
N46YK
Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> Yak-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting)
> and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was
> clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how
> messages posted to the various Lists was handled.
>
> As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email
> program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your
> message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you
> include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be
> accepted instead of bounced back.
>
> But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text
> will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any
> HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should
> serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to
> increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives.
>
> I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if
> you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably
> why.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Admin.
>
> --
>
> Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
> Great minds discuss ideas,
> Average minds discuss events,
> Small minds discuss people...
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Ken Broste" <spiritmoves(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying... |
Matt,
I think what you're doing is great for those of us flying and building Kolb
aircraft. You're probably saving Kolb a full time employee in tech support
just by providing the communication between builders. I know I have had a
half dozen questions answered here on the list and saved Kolb support a few
phone calls. You should forward this letter to Kolb, maybe they'd ante up,
too. It would be great PR for the TN Kolb a/c. Thanks a bunch, Matt!
Ken Broste
Building a Firestar
Tucson, AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:33 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying...
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> During this year's List Fund Raiser I have been receiving a number of
> very nice comments from members regarding what the Lists mean to them.
> I'm sure most everyone can echo one or more of the thoughts expressed
> below. Won't you take a moment to make a Contribution to support the
> continued operation and improvment of your Lists?
>
> A special 'thank you' to everyone that has made a contribution so far
> and for all of the wonderful and supportive comments I've received!
>
>
> To make a contribution with a credit card over an SSL Secure Web Site,
> please go to the following URL:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> or, to make a contribution with a person check, please mail it to:
>
> Matronics
> c/o Matt Dralle
> PO Box 347
> Livermore, CA 94551
>
>
> Thank you!!
>
> Matt Dralle
> Email List Admin.
>
>
> ===================== Comments From List Members
========================
>
>
> * You helped make this dream a reality... -Terry C.
>
> * Thanks for a wonderful resource! -Rick J.
>
> * Thanks for providing a quality product. -Bill C.
>
> * Have found [the List] invaluable for education while building... -Rick
H.
>
>
> * I learn so much from the List! -Robert R.
>
> * [The List] is better than any aviation magazines I subscribe
o. -Roger H.
>
> * I enjoy the pages and find them very helpful. -Noel G.
>
> * The "List" is a great place to both receive and exten help and ideas
for
> building and making flying safer. -Jack B.
>
>
> * The discussions are very helpful. -James B.
>
> * ...I believe this List will be a better value than the
ewsletter. -Roger T.
>
> * [The List] has helped me with the construction of my RV-9. -Marty S.
>
> * VERY good reading. Excellent entertainment value. -Jerry I.
>
>
> * [The List] has saved me many hour on wild goose chases. -Billy W.
>
> * Thanks for keeping my passion for flying as piqued as ever. -Terry W.
>
> * Keep up the nice work. -Daniel H.
>
> * Thanks for all the effort on behalf of Sport Aviation! -Elbie M.
>
>
> * ...Great information source! -Richard W.
>
> * ...Thanks for your help and patience with a very difficult
ask. -Louis W.
>
> * [The List] has been a great asset. -Edward C.
>
> * Just started and already received some valuable tips. -Scott S.
>
>
> * Thanks for the List to let up share our passion. -Brian A.
>
> * ...This List is good stuff. -Russ D.
>
> * ...The single most helpful resource I've come across in
uilding. -Craig P.
>
> * ...Enjoy [the List] a lot. -John H.
>
>
> * The List is a most important tool to help building. -Brad R.
>
> * ...Really found the List to be great! -Geoff T.
>
> * Excellent contribution to the aviation community. -Larry B.
>
> * Great source of information... -William G.
>
>
> * The Lists ... make building a real hoot! -Jeff O.
>
> * The List has been invaluable. -Matt P.
>
> * Thanks for letting me use the site. It's great! -Larry M.
>
> * ...This List has been very helpful. -Larry H.
>
>
> * Greatest support ever for the builders and I have met many
riends. -Fred H.
>
> * ...I love this List and have met many new friends... -Tom E.
>
> * Love both the List and the Search Engine. -Roy G.
>
>
> ===================== Comments From List Members
========================
>
>
> --
>
>
> Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
> Great minds discuss ideas,
> Average minds discuss events,
> Small minds discuss people...
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Are Barstad" <abarstad(at)bconnex.net> |
| Subject: | Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull |
Does anyone know the type of aircraft that was involved in the accident
yesterday?
I only heard it was experimental and that 2 people was fatally injured. It
took place in Hull.
Are
RV-8 Wings (ribs and ribs and ribs...)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Pierre R. Durand" <pierre(at)durand.net> |
| Subject: | Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull |
It was a Zenair CH-601
Pierre
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Are
Barstad
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 4:31 PM
Subject: RVCanada-List: Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull
Does anyone know the type of aircraft that was involved in the accident
yesterday?
I only heard it was experimental and that 2 people was fatally injured. It
took place in Hull.
Are
RV-8 Wings (ribs and ribs and ribs...)
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Kevin Horton <khorton(at)cyberus.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull |
>
>Does anyone know the type of aircraft that was involved in the accident
>yesterday?
>
>I only heard it was experimental and that 2 people was fatally injured. It
>took place in Hull.
>
>Are
>RV-8 Wings (ribs and ribs and ribs...)
>
It was a CH-601. Info at:
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/city/001124/4929756.html
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/city/001124/4929278.html
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/city/001124/4929279.html
http://www.canoe.ca/OttawaSun/front1.html
The last link probably will only work on Friday.
Take care,
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (fuselage 95% done)
Ottawa, Canada
http://eccentrix.com/misc/rv8/rv8.html
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Robert Bristol" <bbristol(at)sympatico.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull |
-----Original Message-----
From: Are Barstad <abarstad(at)bconnex.net>
Date: Friday, November 24, 2000 5:35 PM
Subject: RVCanada-List: Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull
>
>Does anyone know the type of aircraft that was involved in the accident
>yesterday?
>
>I only heard it was experimental and that 2 people was fatally injured. It
>took place in Hull.
>
Zenair CH 601.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Are Barstad" <abarstad(at)bconnex.net> |
| Subject: | Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull |
Thanks everyone for the replies. It's always very sad to hear about these
tragic incidents and loss of fellow pilots.
I always like to think that an engine failure in a light aircraft is
something we can usually deal with, but over dense populated areas and low
altitudes, it has proven to be hazardous in some cases.
This is also what make me leary of night flying in single engine aircraft.
Are
RV-8 - Wings
________________________________________________________________________________
User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630)
| Subject: | Re: Experimental Aircarft Accident in Hull |
| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net> |
>
> Just last week, I turned back in from the run-up area when one of the
> magnetos made the engine running somewhat rough. Others may have went
> (unfortunately), but I wouldn't even consider it.
Good for you.
I made exactly the opposite decision not long ago, and it was a huge
mistake. Right after lift off on the first touch-and-go six of the eight
studs holding on the number three cylinder snapped, and the cylinder nearly
departed the engine. I was able to make a low, very abbreviated circuit
back to the runway, and by pure luck the engine didn't completely fail.
I had been lulled into a false sense of security when, after three hours of
examining the engine on the ground with an AME, we were unable to find
anything wrong. But the knocking sound we had been unable to locate had not
gone away, and it was very foolish of me to take off under the
circumstances.
Don't take off if you have any doubt about the airplane, especially the
powerplant!
Tedd
________________________________________________________________________________
User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630)
| Subject: | Joining VAF Western Canada Wing |
| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net> |
If you live in western Canada, you may be interested in joining Van's Air
Force Western Canada Wing. Membership is now free, as we are no longer
publishing our newsletter.
With membership, you are automatically added to our email discussion group
(about as busy as the RV Canada List!), and you get a username and password
to get into the members-only areas of our web site. There you will find all
the back issues of the newsletter (in PDF form), a membership list (with
your name on it!) to help you find other builders in your area, and an
archive of the email discussion group.
To join, go to
http://www.vansairforce.org/cgi-bin/subscribe.html
You can also link to there from our main page, at
http://www.vansairforce.org/
Note: If you've already subscribed to the newsletter, or if you're already
getting the emails, then you're already a member! If you get the newsletter
but not the emails, that means we don't have your email address. Write to
me at the address below and I'll put you on the list.
Thanks,
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd(at)vansairforce.org
www.vansairforce.org
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Barstad, Are" <BarstadA(at)bis.adp.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Made Your Contribution Yet? 'A List' |
Due in Two Days!
Hi again Matt,
I hope you received my message a few days ago regarding my contribution
through MasterCard. I selected the wrong groups by accident. Does it matter?
Thanks,
Are Barstad
My e-mail address for the groups is: abarstad(at)bconnex.net
-----Original Message-----
From: dralle(at)matronics.com [mailto:dralle(at)matronics.com]
Sent: November 29, 2000 12:54 PM
Subject: RVCanada-List: Have You Made Your Contribution Yet? 'A
List' Due in Two Days!
Hi Listers,
Just a quick reminder that I will post the "A List" of this year's
contributors in just a little over 2 days! I would like to thank
everyone that has made a Contribution so far! I would also like to
encourage those that have been putting off making their Contribution
to the last minute, to hurry and surf over to the URL below or pop that
check in the mail today!
I'm not sure why, but this has been a very light year in terms of both
the number of contributors and average amounts. I *know* you guys still
love me... :-)
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or
Matronics
c/o Matt Dralle
P.O. Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551
Thanks again to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
"RE: RVCanada-List: Have You Made Your Contribution Yet? 'A List' Due in
Two Days!" (Nov 29, 10:18am)
| Subject: | Have You Made Your Contribution Yet? 'A List' Due |
in Two Days!
Yes, I did. Thank you! The "which list are you on" boxes are for
statitics only. No big deal if you selected too many or the wrong one.
Just the list Florida Ballot!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
>--------------
>
>Hi again Matt,
>
>I hope you received my message a few days ago regarding my contribution
>through MasterCard. I selected the wrong groups by accident. Does it matter?
>
>Thanks,
>Are Barstad
>
>My e-mail address for the groups is: abarstad(at)bconnex.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: dralle(at)matronics.com [mailto:dralle(at)matronics.com]
>Sent: November 29, 2000 12:54 PM
>To: email-lists(at)matronics.com
>Subject: RVCanada-List: Have You Made Your Contribution Yet? 'A
>List' Due in Two Days!
>
>
>Hi Listers,
>
>Just a quick reminder that I will post the "A List" of this year's
>contributors in just a little over 2 days! I would like to thank
>everyone that has made a Contribution so far! I would also like to
>encourage those that have been putting off making their Contribution
>to the last minute, to hurry and surf over to the URL below or pop that
>check in the mail today!
>
>I'm not sure why, but this has been a very light year in terms of both
>the number of contributors and average amounts. I *know* you guys still
>love me... :-)
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
> or
>
> Matronics
> c/o Matt Dralle
> P.O. Box 347
> Livermore, CA 94551
>
>Thanks again to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year!
>
>Matt Dralle
>Email List Admin.
>
>
>--
>
>
>Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
>925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
>http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
> Great minds discuss ideas,
> Average minds discuss events,
> Small minds discuss people...
>
>
>--------------
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jim Oke" <Jim_Oke(at)mbnet.mb.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Joining VAF Western Canada Wing |
Hi Tedd;
I am your "easternmost" member of the Western Canada wing but I do not
recall receiving a username and password for the web page. I am sure I am
missing some great stuff, so can you enlighten me ?
BTW, I have some .jpg's of my RV-6A project in various stages, any interest
in same for the Western Canada Wing page?
Cheers, Jim Oke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tedd McHenry" <tedd(at)telus.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:18 AM
Subject: RVCanada-List: Joining VAF Western Canada Wing
>
> If you live in western Canada, you may be interested in joining Van's Air
> Force Western Canada Wing. Membership is now free, as we are no longer
> publishing our newsletter.
>
> With membership, you are automatically added to our email discussion group
> (about as busy as the RV Canada List!), and you get a username and
password
> to get into the members-only areas of our web site. There you will find
all
> the back issues of the newsletter (in PDF form), a membership list (with
> your name on it!) to help you find other builders in your area, and an
> archive of the email discussion group.
>
> To join, go to
>
> http://www.vansairforce.org/cgi-bin/subscribe.html
>
> You can also link to there from our main page, at
>
> http://www.vansairforce.org/
>
> Note: If you've already subscribed to the newsletter, or if you're
already
> getting the emails, then you're already a member! If you get the
newsletter
> but not the emails, that means we don't have your email address. Write to
> me at the address below and I'll put you on the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Van's Air Force
> Western Canada Wing
> tedd(at)vansairforce.org
> www.vansairforce.org
>
>
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User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630)
| Subject: | Classified Ads on the Western Canada Wing Web Site |
| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)telus.net> |
You can now post your own classified ads on the Western Canada Wing web
site. Just go to
http://www.vansairforce.org/classifieds/
and click on the "Post an Ad" link. There are currently ads there for
several RV kits and completed airplanes, plus a few other odds and ends.
This completes an overhaul of the web site that has added several new
features. They are:
Automatic sign-up for new members.
http://www.vansairforce.org/cgi-bin/subscribe.html
(Membership is free.)
Post your own classified ads.
http://www.vansairforce.org/classifieds/
A Guestbook.
http://www.vansairforce.org/guestbook/guestbook.html
A links page where you can add your own links.
http://www.vansairforce.org/links/links.html
And, for members only:
The RV List In Basket
http://vansairforce.org/rvlist/
(Read recent RV List emails in structured format,
organized by thread, subject, author, or date.)
Thanks,
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing
tedd(at)vansairforce.org
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Norman Hunger" <nhunger(at)sprint.ca> |
| Subject: | Product Report - Interior Light |
I was looking for some small lights to put in the luggage areas and the
footwells. For $6.41 Canadian ($4.27 USD) I settled on a good looking cheapo
from the local auto parts store. It is Grote part number 61501. North
American Listers will be able to find this locally at any auto parts store,
just ask. I went to a big store and they still had to order them in.
The lamp can be seen at:
http://grote.com/prodcat/prodcat.htm
Their home page is at:
http://grote.com/
This lamp burns only 0.27 amps. They are very effective when used in pairs
at around 24" apart. Wipes out the shadows as one rummages around at night.
I want two on the rear luggage bulkhead and two in the footwells. They need
to be focused within 24" as they aren't very powerful. I don't know what to
think about using them for the panel, they might not be appropriate. I have
other plans there. For map lights I'm using two of Van's Rotating Map/Panel
Lights (P/N LC Maplight 300 $39.95 USD) on the tip up frame.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Upgrade... |
B
Dear Listers,
I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server this afternoon (1/21/01)
and will be taking it offline for a number of hours. I hope to have it
back online by this evening sometime, depending on how well the upgrade
goes.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
--
Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Elbie(at)Aol.com (by way of Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>) |
2/9/2001
Fellow Pilots and Builders:
EM aviation is pleased to announce that the RiteAngle III Angle of
Attack system is in production. I know this has been a long, long wait for
some of you, however I will not sell a system that is not up to my standards.
The long delay was partially caused by the total new design required
after the RiteAngle 2000 system was terminated. The remainder of the delay
was insuring the system met all our requirements such as both hot and cold
environment testing. The first production group of systems off the line
are being again extensively tested for approximately 2 weeks before we
deliver any systems to insure there are no "bugs" appearing.
When all production testing is accomplished I will ship according to who
has sent in the order form via fax or US mail. (Again, DO NOT send your
credit card number via e-mail! I DO NOT have a secure e-mail line.)
If you want a spot in line for early delivery you can request this via
e-mail, and mail your check or CC number.
At present time I estimate 4- 10 weeks before your delivery, depending on
when I receive your payment.
To those of you who have been in correspondence with me for the last year,
thanks for your belief in EM aviation's product, and soon you will have a
product in your hands. I honor my correspondence of the quoted price.
Current price $295 + mount & options see web site for information.
www.riteangle.com
Elbie Mendenhall
President
EM Aviation, LLC
P NE Prairie Rd
Brush Prairie WA 98606
360-260-0772
www.riteangle.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Mike Nellis" <mnellis(at)peoplepc.com> |
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| Subject: | Version 2.0 Experimental Panel Builder |
Version 2.0 of the Experimental Panel Builder is up and running. The
response to Version 1.0 was almost overwhelming and we received many
requests for additional panels and instruments. We've tried to
accommodate as many as possible but if we've missed something please let
us know by clicking on the "Request New Panels" or "Request New
Instruments" link.
After we published version 1.0 fellow RV List member, RV-8 Builder
(soon to be RV-7 builder) and web master extraordinaire, Jared Boone
(Portland, OR) offered us some suggestions on how we could make things
work a little better. I had some discussions with Jared via email and
even tossed back a brewski or two with him on a recent visit to
Portland. Jared took time out of his busy work schedule (guess what he
does for a living) and helped turn out the version of code that you see
here. Truly remarkable and Bill and I owe him a lot of thanks.
So what's new?
First, you can now save your work. Yes, that's right. After creating a
panel, all you have to do is log out or go to another web page. The
next time you log in you're panel will still be right there were you
left off. Neat.
Space saving organization. Drop down menu's allow you to select the
panel you're interested and the category of instruments your interested
in working on. This saves space and makes creating panels easier.
Duplicate items. Now you can drag as many items onto the panel as you
like. Just keep dragging them up there. You want lots of circuit
breaker and switches. Just keep dragging them up.
If you don't like an instrument then just drag it off the panel and it
goes away. Don't like any of your work and want to start over? Just
hit the reset button.
Because of all the code changes, the time it takes for the initial page
to load has been greatly reduced because it doesn't have to load all the
images at once.
After the last version was published we received a ton or requests for
additional panels and equipment. This is where Bill Vondane came to the
rescue.
Bill jumped into action and developed no less than 20, yes 20, new
panels and added many more instruments. After Jared modified the code
to make the new changes possible, Bill had to add all the new data, and
modify things to get it published. Bill also created the user interface
and "Tips" page to help makes things a little clearer.
Bill and Jared have graciously donated LOTS of time and effort to bring
this tool to it's present state. Remember, these guys both have planes
to build and busy jobs and families to take care of.
Enjoy the updated version and let us know what you think.
Alas, there is a downside. For all those Microsoft haters out there,
this new version is even LESS Netscape friendly than the pervious
version. At this time, due to the methods used to create some of the
features, ONLY Internet Explore 5.5 can be used to access the new
features. Jared is working on making it compatible with earlier
versions of Internet Explorer so until that time, the earlier version
1.0 is still available to use.
We're talking about developing some techniques that will allow ALL
browsers to work but that's still a ways off as time and energy permits.
Check it out. http://sonexlinks.com/panelbuilder/ or link to it from
my page http://bmnellis.com or Bills page http://vondane.com/rv8a
Guess what? It's still free! What a country.
Mike Nellis
Stinson 108-2 N9666K
RV-6 N699BM (reserved)
Plainfield, IL (LOT)
http://bmnellis.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Larry Dysinger" <larrykdysinger(at)hotmail.com> |
AeroElectric-List(at)matronics.com, Aviation-List(at)matronics.com,
Avionics-List(at)matronics.com, EZ-List(at)matronics.com,
Glasair-List(at)matronics.com, Homebuilt-List(at)matronics.com,
Kolb-List(at)matronics.com, Lancair-List(at)matronics.com,
Pitts-List(at)matronics.com, Rocket-List(at)matronics.com,
RVCanada-List(at)matronics.com, RVEurope-List(at)matronics.com,
Sonerai-List(at)matronics.com, Tailwind-List(at)matronics.com,
Zenith-List(at)matronics.com, BostonRVBuilders(at)yahoogroups.com,
oregon-rvlist(at)yahoogroups.com, RV-6and6A(at)yahoogroups.com,
SEFlaRVbuilders(at)yahoogroups.com
| Subject: | Re: [rv8list] Version 2.0 Experimental Panel Builder |
Mike,
That is great work. And thanks for sharing it with your fellow listers.
Larry
RV-8QB - Fuselage
From: "Mike Nellis" <mnellis(at)peoplepc.com>
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Subject: [rv8list] Version 2.0 Experimental Panel Builder
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:00:08 -0600
Version 2.0 of the Experimental Panel Builder is up and running. The
response to Version 1.0 was almost overwhelming and we received many
requests for additional panels and instruments. We've tried to accommodate
as many as possible but if we've missed something please let us know by
clicking on the "Request New Panels" or "Request New Instruments" link.
After we published version 1.0 fellow RV List member, RV-8 Builder (soon to
be RV-7 builder) and web master extraordinaire, Jared Boone (Portland, OR)
offered us some suggestions on how we could make things work a little
better. I had some discussions with Jared via email and even tossed back a
brewski or two with him on a recent visit to Portland. Jared took time out
of his busy work schedule (guess what he does for a living) and helped turn
out the version of code that you see here. Truly remarkable and Bill and I
owe him a lot of thanks.
So what's new?
First, you can now save your work. Yes, that's right. After creating a
panel, all you have to do is log out or go to another web page. The next
time you log in you're panel will still be right there were you left off.
Neat.
Space saving organization. Drop down menu's allow you to select the panel
you're interested and the category of instruments your interested in working
on. This saves space and makes creating panels easier.
Duplicate items. Now you can drag as many items onto the panel as you like.
Just keep dragging them up there. You want lots of circuit breaker and
switches. Just keep dragging them up.
If you don't like an instrument then just drag it off the panel and it goes
away. Don't like any of your work and want to start over? Just hit the
reset button.
Because of all the code changes, the time it takes for the initial page to
load has been greatly reduced because it doesn't have to load all the images
at once.
After the last version was published we received a ton or requests for
additional panels and equipment. This is where Bill Vondane came to the
rescue.
Bill jumped into action and developed no less than 20, yes 20, new panels
and added many more instruments. After Jared modified the code to make the
new changes possible, Bill had to add all the new data, and modify things to
get it published. Bill also created the user interface and "Tips" page to
help makes things a little clearer.
Bill and Jared have graciously donated LOTS of time and effort to bring this
tool to it's present state. Remember, these guys both have planes to build
and busy jobs and families to take care of.
Enjoy the updated version and let us know what you think.
Alas, there is a downside. For all those Microsoft haters out there, this
new version is even LESS Netscape friendly than the pervious version. At
this time, due to the methods used to create some of the features, ONLY
Internet Explore 5.5 can be used to access the new features. Jared is
working on making it compatible with earlier versions of Internet Explorer
so until that time, the earlier version 1.0 is still available to use.
We're talking about developing some techniques that will allow ALL browsers
to work but that's still a ways off as time and energy permits.
Check it out. http://sonexlinks.com/panelbuilder/ or link to it from my
page http://bmnellis.com or Bills page http://vondane.com/rv8a
Guess what? It's still free! What a country.
Mike Nellis
Stinson 108-2 N9666K
RV-6 N699BM (reserved)
Plainfield, IL (LOT)
http://bmnellis.com
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | RocketPilot2Be(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Rocket-List: Re: [rv8list] Version 2.0 Experimental |
Panel Builder
AeroElectric-List(at)matronics.com, Aviation-List(at)matronics.com,
Avionics-List(at)matronics.com, EZ-List(at)matronics.com,
Glasair-List(at)matronics.com, Homebuilt-List(at)matronics.com,
Kolb-List(at)matronics.com, Lancair-List(at)matronics.com,
Pitts-List(at)matronics.com, Rocket-List(at)matronics.com,
RVCanada-List(at)matronics.com, RVEurope-List(at)matronics.com,
Sonerai-List(at)matronics.com, Tailwind-List(at)matronics.com,
Zenith-List(at)matronics.com, BostonRVBuilders(at)yahoogroups.com,
oregon-rvlist(at)yahoogroups.com, RV-6and6A(at)yahoogroups.com,
SEFlaRVbuilders(at)yahoogroups.com
Mike,
wonderful job. Thanks a lot !!!
(Hey, listers, shouldn't we throw a dollar in the hat for Mike ??????)
/Hans Altena
Cary, North Carolina
(919) 412 6221
Sitting on the fence with my $$$
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Matthew Mucker" <mmucker(at)airmail.net> |
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Rocket-List: Re: [rv8list] Version |
2.0 Experimental Panel Builder
I'm so impressed, that if someone'll give me an address, I'll pitch in TWO
dollars!
-Matt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> RocketPilot2Be(at)aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 7:35 PM
> To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com; rv8list(at)yahoogroups.com;
> rv-list(at)matronics.com; AeroElectric-List(at)matronics.com;
> Aviation-List(at)matronics.com; Avionics-List(at)matronics.com;
> EZ-List(at)matronics.com; Glasair-List(at)matronics.com;
> Homebuilt-List(at)matronics.com; Kolb-List(at)matronics.com;
> Lancair-List(at)matronics.com; Pitts-List(at)matronics.com;
> Rocket-List(at)matronics.com; RVCanada-List(at)matronics.com;
> RVEurope-List(at)matronics.com; Sonerai-List(at)matronics.com;
> Tailwind-List(at)matronics.com; Zenith-List(at)matronics.com;
> BostonRVBuilders(at)yahoogroups.com; oregon-rvlist(at)yahoogroups.com;
> RV-6and6A(at)yahoogroups.com; SEFlaRVbuilders(at)yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rocket-List: Re: [rv8list] Version 2.0
> Experimental Panel Builder
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: RocketPilot2Be(at)aol.com
>
> Mike,
> wonderful job. Thanks a lot !!!
>
> (Hey, listers, shouldn't we throw a dollar in the hat for Mike ??????)
>
> /Hans Altena
> Cary, North Carolina
> (919) 412 6221
> Sitting on the fence with my $$$
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Norman Hunger" <nhunger(at)sprint.ca> |
I was running a tap through a painted #6 nutplate and the thing snapped
off. How do I get the broken bit out?
Thank-you,
Norman Hunger
________________________________________________________________________________
Go to your local friendly neighborhood machinist and
borrow his tap extractor.
Larry Mac Donald
Rochester N.Y.
elevators
writes:
>
>
> I was running a tap through a painted #6 nutplate and the thing
> snapped
> off. How do I get the broken bit out?
>
> Thank-you,
> Norman Hunger
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Terminaltown(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Sites up and running |
cadet-list(at)matronics.com, cessna-list(at)matronics.com,
czech-list(at)matronics.com, ez-list(at)matronics.com, glasair-list(at)matronics.com,
homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com, kolb-list(at)matronics.com,
piper-list(at)matronics.com, pitts-list(at)matronics.com,
rocket-list(at)matronics.com, rvcanada-list(at)matronics.com,
rveurope-list(at)matronics.com, rv-list(at)matronics.com,
seaplane-list(at)matronics.com, skymaster-list(at)matronics.com,
smithmini-list(at)matronics.com, sonerai-list(at)matronics.com,
yak-list(at)matronics.com, zenith-list(at)matronics.com,
lancair-list(at)matronics.com
Hello Listers:
Terminal Town's Shopping Cart is up
and running!
Or http://www.terminaltown.com
Thanks!
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Norman Hunger" <nhunger(at)sprint.ca> |
,
| Subject: | ANR Headset Conversion |
I have been thinking of converting two of my DC's to this exact system.
http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/headsets/index.html
They've been around a few years now and I've yet to hear anything bad about
them.
They run off a 9v battery that will last 20 hours. Does that mean a 9v
rechargeable will last slightly under 20 hours?
What I would like to source is a 9v battery charger that is very small and
runs on 12v. Does anyone know of one and a source? I want to run
re-chargeable batteries and have the ability to charge up dead ones in my
airplane. I have two cig lighter sockets in a really neat side panel in the
luggage compartment. There are two more on the bottom right of my panel just
above a pocket. I'll buy three batteries and rotate them when one dies.
I have ten year old DC 10-30's and 10-40's in perfect condition and would
rather upgrade these quality pieces than spend another couple of thousand
dollars on new fashion pieces.
Thanks,
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Vern Smith <vismith(at)sympatico.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: ANR Headset Conversion |
Hi Norman-- I suggest that you try a LM317T voltage regulator circuit, which may
be used as a constant voltage or constant current charger..adjustable, and can
privide up to 1 1/2 amps of current..cheap, readily available..regards, Vern
Smith
Norman Hunger wrote:
>
> I have been thinking of converting two of my DC's to this exact system.
> http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/headsets/index.html
> They've been around a few years now and I've yet to hear anything bad about
> them.
>
> They run off a 9v battery that will last 20 hours. Does that mean a 9v
> rechargeable will last slightly under 20 hours?
>
> What I would like to source is a 9v battery charger that is very small and
> runs on 12v. Does anyone know of one and a source? I want to run
> re-chargeable batteries and have the ability to charge up dead ones in my
> airplane. I have two cig lighter sockets in a really neat side panel in the
> luggage compartment. There are two more on the bottom right of my panel just
> above a pocket. I'll buy three batteries and rotate them when one dies.
>
> I have ten year old DC 10-30's and 10-40's in perfect condition and would
> rather upgrade these quality pieces than spend another couple of thousand
> dollars on new fashion pieces.
>
> Thanks,
> Norman Hunger
> RV6A Delta BC
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Norman Hunger" <nhunger(at)sprint.ca> |
| Subject: | Com Antenna Placement |
I've got a Bob Archer com antenna in one wing tip connected to a Bob Archer
splitter then serving two com radios. I want to try this uncertified method
to eliminate external antennas. I've heard enough good reports on his
products to be satisfied. However, I would like to run RG-400 from the stack
to under the seats in case it isn't good enough. I want to make it quick and
easy to add a com ant. Is this the best spot in a RV6A? Who is happy with
his com ant below the belly?
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Norman Hunger" <nhunger(at)sprint.ca> |
,
So I emailed these guys and asked what is coming out with a bigger screen.
I'm just trying to keep on top of the latest greatest color moving map. They
said Sharp is about to release a good 6 inch screen. Hitachi currently has
the Eplate at 8 inches but it is not very good in sunlight. They currently
recommend the 4 inch Ipaq.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com,
rv9-list(at)matronics.com, rvcanada-list(at)matronics.com,
rveurope-list(at)matronics.com
| Subject: | Van's Homecoming 2001 - A Photo Journal! |
Hi RV Listers!
Well, just back from Van's Homecoming BBQ and Fly-in up at the Aurora
Airport and in a word, wow. Below is a URL link to a web page I did on
the photos I took over the two days. There are multi-resolutions and
preview thumbnails for easy viewing.
http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/VansHomeComing2001/
Have a look and feel free to download any you'd like to keep or make
your screen backdrops.
If you haven't gone to a Homecoming before, or even if you have, I
highly recommend the trip. Very inspirational.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
RV-4 Finish Kit - #1763 - N442RV
Matronics EMail List Admin.
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
Great minds discuss ideas,
Average minds discuss events,
Small minds discuss people...
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | NEW Matronics Email List Feature! Browse Current List |
Messages!
Dear Listers,
I have just finished building an all new Email List Web Browsing feature
for the Matronics Email Lists. The new system allows you to use your web
browser to view all of the current Email List messages. The system's
indexes display all of the current List messages sorted by Subject, Author,
Date, or Thread. Clicking on the URL links on these index pages will open
another "Viewing Window" where the messages will be displayed.
The format of the index pages and message viewing window are consistent
with the existing Matronics Archive Search Engine and should be familiar to
everyone. The messages available on this new List Browsing Feature span
the previous 7 days of email for the given List. Each day the oldest day's
messages are replaced with the current day's messages. The web pages are
updated every 30 minutes with any new messages that are posted to the List
during that time frame.
Please have a look at the new Utility and let me know what you think! For
ease of use, I've added a link to the new system on each of the List
trailers that are appended to each List email message.
I hope you will find the new system useful and also find it to be a handy
companion to the Archive Search Engine.
The new Email Browsing Utility can be found at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
From here, you can select any of the available Email Lists.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Web Server Upgraded! Blazingly Fast Archive Searches!! |
Dear Listers,
As of this weekend, the Matronics Email List Web Server is now running on a
brand new hardware platform and the latest version of RedHat Linux! The
new hardware includes Dual 1.7GHz Xeon Processors, a 400MHz FSB
motherboard, 1GB of 800MHz RAM, a Dual-Channel 160 MB/Sec Ultra-160 SCSI
Controller, and an Ultra 160 36GB 15,000 RPM Seagate Cheetah hard
drive. The performance of the new system is, in a word, breathtaking!
In a variety of benchmark tests against the previous server, the new system
is at *least* six times faster! This means that your Archive Search Engine
queries will now come back in what seems like an instant! Single word
searches of the 113MB RV-List Archive now return in 2-3 seconds, and
searches of all other List Archives return in 1 second or
less!! Performance enhancements in the download and viewing of all other
web-based tools should also be noticeably improved as well.
Please enjoy the new system performance and don't forget, the Annual Email
List Fund Raiser is just around the corner!! :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2001 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Forums sponsored here. Your contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
This year, I've made some substantial improvements to the Lists and the
supporting systems. These upgrades are focused on making your experience
here faster, more enjoyable, and most importantly, informative. Here is a
partial list of improvements that I've made on the systems this year:
o Upgraded Web Server
- Minimum 6X increase in performance *
- Tons more high performance disk space and memory!
- Increased availability and reliability - UPS Backup
- Improved support for > 130,000 Archive Searches each year!
* See http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/RV-SearchTime.jpg
o Email System Disk Subsystem Upgrade
- More storage and faster access times
- Faster redistribution of List Messages
- Processed over 45,000 List messages in 2001; 50,000 in 2000!
o All new List Browse Feature *
- Browse the last seven day's worth of List Messages
- Quick access to current threads
- Sort messages by Thread, Date, Subject, or Author
* See http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
o All new Photo Share Feature * &
- Simply email your photos and files to share
- Scanned for viruses
- Automatic Web Page Generation
- Includes descriptions and poster information
* See http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
& Officially to be announced soon
o Transition To High Performance Internet Service Provider
- Improved reliability
- Better access from most sites on the Internet
- Improved throughput
These are just some of the more visible improvements I've implemented this
year. I'm always working to improve the behind the scenes operation of the
Lists. I've built an elaborate system of message text and source address
filtering mechanisms to assure that you only receive text data in the
message, spam is nearly non-existent, computer viruses are never propagated
through the Lists, and that message post redistribution is smooth and
trouble free.
This year has seen a lot of improvements in the Email List experience. If
you enjoy the Forums here and make use of the many features, won't you take
a moment and make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
maintenance? Please note there is no advertising funding on the
Lists. You don't see annoying banner ads in the Email messages or on any
of the web pages. This just seems more friendly to me and makes the List
experience just that much more personal.
The operation of these Lists is supported *completely* through the
donations of List Members just like you!
Please take a moment to support your Lists by making a Secure Credit Card
Contribution at the following web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or you may send a personal check to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their Contribution and for
their continued support over the past year!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser Off to a Slow Start... |
Hi Listers,
First I want to take everyone that has taken a minute already to make a
Contribution to support the Email Lists in 2001! I also really appreciate
all the kind words I've been receiving regarding the Lists and how much
they mean to everyone. The testimonial means a lot to me and makes the
many hours working on the system worth it!! Later in the month, I'll share
a few of the kind words with the Lists.
I've added a nifty new Bar Graph Thermometer to the message trailer that
gives an up-to-the-minute percentage status of how many members have made a
Contribution during 2001! It was a fun piece of code to write and
hopefully will be a fun way to watch the Fund Raiser's Progress this year!
As I've said in the past, the Lists are supported *completely* through your
generous Contributions during the Fund Raiser and throughout the
year. This includes all of the system and connectivity upgrades we seen,
as well as makes the many hours I spend each month keeping the systems
running even more enjoyable ;-).
Won't you take a moment and make a Contribution right now to support your
Lists? Its fast and easy with the On-line, SSL secure Credit Card system,
or by direct US-Mailing a check. For complete information, please see the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your Generous Contribution!!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
PS - Don't forget to monitor the Fund Raiser Bar Graph below!
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying - Fund Raiser Continues... |
Dear Listers,
The 2001 List Fund Raiser is going well and I want to thank everyone that
has already so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists! Below
are some of the great comments and feedback members have been including
along with their Contributions.
Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and
upgrade of your Lists? Its fast and easy using the SSL Secure Web Site or
by simply sending a personal check. Complete information can be found at
Contribution web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
A give a special Thank You to all of those that have already contributed so
far this year!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
================== What Listers Are Saying ====================
Great information site.
- Edward S.
This is the first thing I look at every day.
- Ralph M.
The new List option is WONDERFUL!
- Kenyon B.
...new Search Software is absolutely fantastic!!
- Bruce K.
...essential to my enjoyment of RV building and flying.
- Douglas W.
Great List!
- Randall H.
...an invaluable service!
- Carlos S.
...incredible service to the industry!
- Alex M.
Building wouldn't be the same without the "Great List".
- Tom E.
...has helped the building process immensely.
- Hap S.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Tried the New List Browse Feature?? |
Hi Listers,
I've been getting a LOT of very positive feedback on the new Email List
Browsing feature I added to the suite of List services a couple of weeks
ago. A number of List members have written to say that they love the new
List Browser because they can keep tabs on the latest List messages
throughout the day without having to constantly check their email or wait
for the Digest issue to come out.
The List Browse Function allows you to use your web browser to view the
current 7 day's worth of List messages for the give List. The indexes are
updated every 30 minutes with any new messages that have been posted. You
can sort all of the message indexes by Thread, Subject, Author, or Date and
easily track and find current threads.
You can check out the New List Browse Feature by going to the following URL
and clicking on the List of your choice:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
Please remember that November is List Fund Raiser month!! The continued
operation and upgrade of the Email Lists are _entirely_ supported by YOUR
Contributions and support. You'll never see annoying, flashing banner ads,
or other forms of commercialism on these Lists. Just people sharing
information, data, and stories about your favorite topic, plain (plane?)
and simple.
If you enjoy the Lists and all of the services here, won't you take moment
and make a quick Contribution? It fast and easy using the SSL Secure Web
site with your Visa or MasterCard. Or, you can also send a personal check
to the address listed below.
SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
USMail: Matt Dralle
c/o Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Don't forget that the "List of Contributors" will be coming out in just a
few short weeks! Don't you want to make sure you're name is on it?
I would like to wish a special "Thank You" to everyone that has made a
Contribution so far this year!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Free Copy of Van's New "THE RV STORY" Video! |
Hey Listers!
In support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Andy Gold of The Builder's
Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) is donating a FREE COPY of the
new edition of Van's "The RV Story" video (VHS) to any Email List Member
making a Contribution of $50 or more!
To take advantage of this wonderful Offer, please include the following
information along with your Contribution, either in the Message Box if you
Contribute on-line, or on a slip of paper if your Contribution is by check
via the USMail:
Van's RV Story Video Offer
$50 or Greater Contributor
[your name]
[your shipping address]
[your City, State and Zip Code]
If you've already made a Contribution in 2001 of $50 or more and would like
to receive the video, please drop me an email ( dralle(at)matronics.com ) and
include the information shown above with the words "Video Offer" in the
Subject line.
Please note that this new edition of "The RV Story" will first be available
in about 8 weeks.
I want to thank Andy Gold and the Builder's Book Store for this *very
generous* Contribution! If you haven't taken a moment to check out The
Builder's Book Store web site yet, you owe it to yourself to have a look (
http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ). Andy has a fabulous selection of
interesting, informative, and exceptionally useful books and videos on his
site. Please have a look!
Again, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a
Contribution so far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Your Contributions
make all of the Lists and Services found here possible - period.
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What They're Saying... |
Hi Listers,
The 2001 List Fund Raiser is currently underway and lot's of people have
been making their Contribution and saying a lot of very nice things about
the Lists and what they're daily-dose of Forum means to them! I've
included a few more of the Lister comments below.
Won't you take a moment to support your Lists this month? Its fast and
easy by making a Secure Credit Card Contribution at the following web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or by sending a personal check Contribution to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
For Complete information on the upgrades and improvements the Lists and
servers have undergone this year, have a look at this URL:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=113171908?KEYS=asdfasdf?LISTNAME=RV?HITNUMBER=4?SERIAL=1942094803?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
Here's few more of the comments I've been receiving about what the Lists
mean to its members:
======================
Not only a great way to help each other out, it's been
a wonderful way to meet new friends. - Fred H.
The List is invaluable to me...
- Russell W.
I absolutely love your Lists...
- Scott C.
...you are tying all the builders together.
- David A.
The Lists continue to be an invaluable source of
information. - Jeff O.
I look forward to reading my Email every day...
- Harvey S.
They are invaluable resources to builders of all
skill levels. - Kevin H.
...another year of excellent service.
- Terry W.
Way cool setup.
- Chuck R.
...source of information, inspiration, support,
and camaraderie. - Carlos S.
I'd be lost without them...
- Jeff O.
======================
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Hi Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st
I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support
the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a
minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of
Contributors? As a number of people have pointed out, the List seems at
least, if not a whole lot more, valuable as a building/flying/recreating
tool as a typical your magazine subscription. We won't even talk about a
newsstand price... :-)
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming
LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to
support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa or M/C on the SSL Secure
Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
!! Don't forget !!
Andy Gold of the Builder's Book Store ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) has
generously donated a FREE copy of Van's new "The RV Story" video to anyone
making a Contribution of $50 or more to support the Lists. For complete
information on the _awesome_ offer, please see this URL:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=113629625?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=RV?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=23392130806?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
To make sure you get your video, be sure to follow the instructions at the
URL above carefully!
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution
thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support
that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a
little comment about how the Lists have helped you! I love to feel the
love... :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Michael Brown... |
Hi Listers,
In support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Michael Brown of Brown
Aviation Tool Supply Co. ( http://www.browntool.com ) has generously
offered to provide Gift Certificates to all Listers making Contributions of
$30 or more this year!
Making your Contribution to support these Email Lists and to qualify for
the Brown Tool Gift Certificate is fast and easy by using the SSL Secure
Credit Card Contribution Web Site at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or by sending a personal check Contribution to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
According to Michael, "The Gift Certificates have absolutely no strings
attached and are as good as cash for anything from the Brown Tool Web Site
or Catalog."
The amount of your Gift Certificate is based on the size of your List
Contribution and is according to the following:
$100 or greater Contribution receives a $25 Gift Certificate!
or
$30-$99 Contribution receives a $10 Gift Certificate!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
To receive your Brown Tool Gift Certificate, send an email message to:
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com
and include the following information:
1) Subject Line: Tool Offer
2) Which Gift Certificate you qualify for ($10 or $25)
3) [Your Name]
4) [Your Mailing Address]
5) [Your City, State Zip]
** Please only use the email address shown above (
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com ) to request your Gift Certificate!
*** Anyone making a List Contribution of $30 or more in 2001 qualifies for
the Gift Certificate!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
You should receive your Gift Certificate from Brown Tool in about 2-4 weeks.
I want to thank Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for this
wonderful offer in support of the Email Lists! If you haven't yet had a
look at the Brown Tool Web Site ( http://www.browntool.com ), then you own
it to yourself to take a peek! He has some great deals and good quality tools.
And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has already made a
Contribution in this year's Fund Raiser! Its YOUR support that keeps these
Lists running and NOT ADVERTISING and FLASHING BANNER ADS...
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Can You Say...? |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting a ton great comments on what the Lists mean to its
members and I've included a few of them below. I'm sure _most_ of you can
echo one or more of these sentiments to the tune of a nice List
Contribution... :-)
Just one more week until I post the 2001 List of Contributors! Won't you
support the continued operation of these Lists by making a Contribution
today and assure your place on the upcoming Contributor List? I'm sure
your friends will be checking for your name on the LOC... ;-)
SSL Secure Web Visa and MasterCard Contributions:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Personal Check via the US Mail:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
I want to thank everyone that has already made a Contribution this
year! YOU make these Lists possible!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
===========================================================================
Can't live without my List everyday!
- John B.
Information you can't get anywhere else.
- George D.
...one of the finest List sites on the Internet.
- Dennis S.
This List has saved my bacon more than once!
- Larry H.
Really invaluable service for a novice builder.
- John B.
...got some useful help from the List.
- Rocky S.
A valuable resource.
- Dennis N.
This List is a Super resource...
- Dwight F.
...couldn't have gotten this far without the
resources on the List.
- Jerry C.
Great service to us builders...
- Ronald M.
...someday we'll all meet in RV Heaven. Hey,
how come there isn't an "RV-Heaven" List?
- Louis W.
The info I've gleaned from the List has saved
me several thousand dollars...
- Kevin H.
...the only International, Interesting, Up-to-date,
List with the best search engine ever!
- Hans L.
...check it ever day so I don't miss anything.
- Jim B.
Great List!
- Douglas G.
This List has saved me a few times already...
- Thomas R.
...part of my morning wake up reading.
- Dwight F.
...helped my make my plane better, safer, better
looking, and built it quicker.
- Kevin H.
Have bought many items from the info the List gives.
- Jim B.
You meet the nicest people here.
- George D.
Informative, Amusing, Entertaining...
- John B.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Don't Miss The Video... |
Hey Listers!
Just a reminder that in support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Andy
Gold of The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) is
donating a FREE COPY of the new edition of Van's "The RV Story" video (VHS)
to any List Member making a Contribution of $50 or more!
To take advantage of this wonderful Offer, please include the following
information along with your Contribution, either in the Message Box if you
Contribute on-line, or on a slip of paper if your Contribution is by check
via the USMail:
Van's RV Story Video Offer
$50 or Greater Contributor
[your name]
[your shipping address]
[your City, State and Zip Code]
If you've already made a Contribution of $50 or more during the 2001 Fund
Raiser and would still like to receive the video, please drop me an email (
dralle(at)matronics.com ) and include the information shown above with the
following Subject Line:
Subject: Video Offer
Please note that this new edition of "The RV Story" will first be available
in about 8 weeks.
I want to thank Andy Gold and the Builder's Book Store for this *very
generous* Contribution! If you haven't taken a moment to check out The
Builder's Book Store web site yet, you owe it to yourself to have a look (
http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ). Andy has a fabulous selection of
interesting, informative, and exceptionally useful books and videos on his
site. Please have a look!
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution
so far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Just a few more days until I send
out the List of Contributors for 2001. Make your Contribution today to
make sure your name is on the LOC!!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Brown Tool Gift Certificate Reminder... |
Hi Listers,
Just a reminder that in support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Michael
Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. ( http://www.browntool.com ) has
generously offered to provide Gift Certificates to all Listers making
Contributions of $30 or more this year!
Making your Contribution to support these Email Lists and to qualify for
the Brown Tool Gift Certificate is fast and easy by using the SSL Secure
Credit Card Contribution Web Site at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or by sending a personal check Contribution to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
According to Michael, "The Gift Certificates have absolutely no strings
attached and are as good as cash for anything from the Brown Tool Web Site
or Catalog."
The amount of your Gift Certificate is based on the size of your List
Contribution and is according to the following:
$100 or greater Contribution receives a $25 Gift Certificate!
or
$30-$99 Contribution receives a $10 Gift Certificate!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
To receive your Brown Tool Gift Certificate, send an email message to:
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com
and include the following information:
1) Subject Line: Tool Offer
2) Which Gift Certificate you qualify for ($10 or $25)
3) [Your Name]
4) [Your Mailing Address]
5) [Your City, State Zip]
** Please only use the email address shown above (
browntooloffer(at)matronics.com ) to request your Gift Certificate!
*** Anyone making a List Contribution of $30 or more in 2001 qualifies for
the Gift Certificate! But, you have to follow the instructions above to
receive it!
==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ====================
You should receive your Gift Certificate from Brown Tool in about 2-4 weeks.
I want to thank Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for this
wonderful offer in support of the Email Lists! If you haven't yet had a
look at the Brown Tool Web Site ( http://www.browntool.com ), then you own
it to yourself to take a peek! He has some great deals and good quality tools.
I would like to thank everyone that has already made a Contribution in this
year's Fund Raiser!
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributors Down By 25%... |
Dear Listers,
First I want to thank everyone that has already so generously made a
Contribution toward this year 2001 List Fund Raiser. It is your support
that makes these Lists possible.
Since there are only a couple more days until the official end of this
year's drive, I want to share some statistics regarding this and previous
Fund Raiser percentages. In years past, the percentage of members making a
Contribution to support the Lists has typically been right around 23% of
the total List population. This year, however, you'll note from the
Contribution Meter that we're only at a little over 16% for some
reason. This is down by roughly 7%, and translates into about a *30%
decrease* in participation this year!
I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the very last minute to make
their Contribution this year, and that the needle on the Contribution Meter
will still creep up to the normal 23% in the next few days! Saturday or
Sunday I will be posting the 2001 List of Contributors, so you'll want to
heat up that Contribution Web Site right away to make sure your name is on
the 2001 LOC!!
The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The US Mail Address:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
Listers,
A couple List Members have asked if the Lists are "in trouble financially"
and wanted to know if this is why I was having a Fund Raiser. It got to
thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also
take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide
a far better experience than the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a great amount of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
new List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of
use is outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth
of messages online for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew who where
building RVs. It has grown into nearly 40 different aviation-related Email
Lists and an associated web site that receives over 500,000 hits each
month!! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value
in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing
and improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The US Mail Address:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Free Stuff Reminder... |
Dear Listers,
Don't forget that you can receive a free copy of Van's new Video, "The RV
Story" with a $50 or greater contribution this year, or a $10 Gift
Certificate from Brown Tool for a $30 or greater contribution or a $25 Gift
Certificate for a $100 contribution. Below are two URLs for complete
information on the two Offers. Please follow the respective instructions
*carefully*.
Van's Video Offer Information:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=5781141?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=Yak?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=09092616692?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
Brown Aviation Tool Gift Certificate Information:
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=5838463?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=Yak?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=09080216166?SHOWBUTTONS=NO
I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore and Michael Brown of
Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for their generous offers in support the
Lists this year!! Thank you, guys!
I'd like to thank everyone that has already made a generous Contribution in
support of the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Listers,
Below are some of the comments I've received just this week alone from
members along with their Contributions to support the Lists! What can I
say? Wow. I really appreciate the kind words and extremely positive
feedback and I would encourage you to read over a few of comments below. I
think they really say a mouthful...
The last couple of days have seen a huge increase in support!! Thank you
to all that have Contributed and to those that have rallied support for the
Lists! Since the response has been so wonderful recently, I plan to delay
the posting of the 2001 List of Contributors a few days to assure that
everyone will be included!
Won't you make your Contribution today to support the Lists?
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The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The US Mail Address:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
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Thank you to everyone for the kind words and support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
======== Some Great Comments on What The Lists Mean to its Members ==========
...great source of information, education,
relaxation, frustration, and socialization.
- John H.
Can't imagine what it would be like building
with out the Lists...
- Steven E.
Look forward to the list every day.
- Parker T.
I really enjoy reading the banter...
- Wesley H.
...enjoy the patter on construction tips and
possible problem areas.
- Richard N.
Couldn't have built my RV-4 without the List
and archives!!
- Warren M.
I have found the list to be a great help,
especially for a first time builder.
- Peter D.
I thoroughly enjoy the List.
- Larry B.
The List is a great resource.
- Dennis K.
The list is great entertainment.
- Gary Z.
Can't say enough about the good information
that I have received from reading the List.
- Robert C.
...it's the best!
- Steve F.
I'm addicted to the List!
- Rodney B.
The list has been a wonderful resource of
knowledge.
- Doug B.
As a first time builder, the lists have
been my most important source of information.
- James V.
It [read the List] is the first thing I do
every day is see what's new.
- Billie F.
The information available through the List
has made my flying safer...
- Dave R.
I get much more information about my plane
from this List than from all of my aviation
magazines combined.
- Roger H.
I love the list!!!!
- Ken L.
Much better value than a magazine subscription.
- Ted M.
...found it very useful.
- Allan J.
...this list has been a great service to me.
- Peter F.
I cannot express just how USEFUL the Lists are.
- Geoff T.
...a tremendous help to my RV-8 project and
a way to meet some of the best people going.
- Steve G.
The List is invaluable, and the best I've
ever seen.
- Ed C.
Like another family for many of us.
- John H.
The lists have saved a bunch of calls to
Van's for guidance.
- James V.
I think I'm addicted...
- Terry C.
Love it!
- David W.
The information really helps...
- Jim P.
...I find [it] very informative.
- Real D.
...List keeps me motivated... - Cliff M.
The exchange of information is really helpful...
- M.N.
Lots of great info on the List.
- Larry D.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Photo Share Main Index Page - The Detail You Asked |
For...
Hi Listers!
I've been noticing a lot of people having fun with the new Email List Photo
and File Share feature and I've seen a great many hits on the various
member pages.
A number of you wrote to say that some additional topic data on the Main
Photo Share Index page would certainly be helpful and I would have to agree.
It took a little programming, and it was a job retrofitting to all of the
older Shares, but I think you'll be pleased with the outcome! I've added
Poster Name, Photo Share Subject, and Target Email List data to the Main
Index. Clicking on a Subject text opens a new window with the Photo Share
and the thumbnails.
Have a look and feel free to submit your photos for sharing! The
instructions are at the top of the Main Photo Share Index Page.
The URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
Enjoy!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [ PLEASE READ ] : Matronics Network Upgrade Mon. 12/17/01 |
Listers,
According to my ISP, Speakeasy, they will be doing some sort of "backbone
upgrade" Monday, 12/17/01. Their message doesn't mention whether or not
this will impact connectivity for any length of time. I wanted everyone to
know that there might be a time when access to the Matronics Web Server and
Email Lists might be unavailable. If there's a problem, I'll post a
message from a different email address with details.
Bottom line: Hopefully nobody will notice...
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Belated List of Contributors #2... |
Dear Listers,
I'd like to apologize for the delay in posting the 2001 List of
Contributors Number 2, as well as getting behind in the List Photo
Shares. Here's my sad story... Over the Christmas holidays, I was working
out in the shop on a rotating drum sander. I was sanding out the woofer
hole in a speaker enclosure and, long story short, the part got away from
me and started spinning like a Hula hoop on the drum. Rather than just
turning the machine off like I should have done, I tried to grab the part
and in the process badly broke the ring fingers on *both* my right and left
hands!! I had to go in for surgery on the left hand because of the joint
damage and was stuck in a thing called an "external fixator" for almost 4
weeks. The right hand has healed up well, but the left one is very stiff
and I'm currently only getting about 70 degrees of bend. The doctor says
that I will get 80-90% of the moment back with a great deal of therapy and
I'm going to hold them to that...
The moral of the story is that even a sander can be a dangerous tool. I
had been working with a table saw, drill press, scroll saw, and high power
routers all day long and afforded them all the respect they deserved. But
with the sander, I never even thought about how things could go bad. It
just didn't seem like a dangerous tool. Be careful out there in the
shop. In a moment you can hurt yourself; hurt yourself in such a way that
you will have to live with the damage the rest of your life. Nothing is
worth that.
I'm finally back working on the computer and getting back to email and
other stuff. Later today I will be processing the mound of Photo Shares
that have backed up while I was out. I also just finished up the 2001 List
Contributions and have included the List Number 2 below.
I want to thank everyone that has so generously contributed to the List
this past year! It is your Contributions that make these Lists possible.
I understand that the Van's Videos from the Builder's Bookstore should be
shipping very soon if not already, and the discount coupons from Brown
Tools should already have arrived. Thanks again to Andy Gold and Michael
Brown for their generous support of the Lists this year with these giveaways!
Oh, and now that my fingers are working pretty well again, I've decided to
go ahead and finish my RV-4!! I had a LOT of guilt over wanting to sell
it... :-)
Happy Building and Flying!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Alexander, Don
Alexander, George
Andrews, Jim
Anonymous
Blake, James
Bowman, John
Buryl, Hill
Butler, Sherman
Cantrell, Jimmy
DeRuiter, Marcel
Deffner, David
Graumlich, Tom
Griffin, Randy
Harbour, Keith
Hunt, Robin
Jannon, Terence
Johnson, Jackie
Kahn, Steve
Labhart, Norm
Laird, David
Larson, Joe
Licking, Larry
Maynard, Brad
Navratil, Richard
Noonan, Thomas
Petersen, Paul
Reed, Gary
Rogers, Ken
Salter, Phillip
Schmit, John
Schultz, David
Sheffield, Ray
Smith, Edmond
Staley, Dick
Utterback, Tom
Uvanni, Bruce
Williams, Henry
Wilson, Robert
Woodward, Don
Worthington, Victor
Zirges, Malcom
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| From: | "Builder's Bookstore" <winterland(at)rkymtnhi.com> |
| Subject: | Free Thunderbird, Blue Angels videos |
Free Thunderbird, Blue Angels videos
I've got 5 copies of a Thunderbirds / Blue Angles video which we'll give
away for Free to the first 5 people who ask for it along with any other
regular order from Builder's Bookstore.
It's a 50 minute video, 1/2 on the Thunderbirds, and 1/2 on the Blue
Angels. The Thunderbird segment is excellent. The Blue Angels section
is not as good.
To get one, just write FREE THUNDERBIRDS VIDEO in the special
instructions box on the Builder's Bookstore on-line order form, or say
so if you prefer to order something by phone.
Also, in case you are caller #6 or later, note if your regular order
depends on whether there is a free video left to include in your
package.
Andy
Builder's Bookstore
http://buildersbooks.com
800 780-4115
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Browsing Feature! |
Dear Listers,
I thought I'd post a little reminder to everyone about a very slick feature
of the email Lists here at Matronics. You can now use Netscape or Internet
Explorer to browse the current messages on your favorite List! The List
Browse Function tracks the current 7 day's worth of List messages for any
given List. Indexes are updated every 30 minutes with new messages that
have been posted. You can resort the message indexes by Thread, Subject,
Author, or Date and easily track and find current threads.
A number of List members have written to say that they love the List
Browser because they can keep tabs on the latest List messages throughout
the day without having to constantly check their email or wait for the
Digest issue to come out.
You can check out the List Browse Feature by going to the following URL and
clicking on the List of your choice:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Keith Bedell" <bedelk(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | XDP4000X-List: unhappy |
All-
I hooked up my xdp-4000x and it sounds like crap. I ordered the necessary cable
from online and tried to tune it, but it just got worse. Is there something missing
htat I need to do to get it to work. When I bypass it with rca splitters
the res of my system works like a charm. I have the 6001ES running three 10'
ES subs. Then 2 1805 ES's handling everything else. Aside from the problems with
the 4x, there is a huge disparity between cd volume and radio volume. I mean
huge!!!. I can max out radio volume and it sounds ok, then pop in a cd and
half way blows mee out of the cab. Any ideas, I anm just so dissapointed right
now....
From: Matt Dralle <DRALLE(at)MATRONICS.COM>
Reply-To: xdp4000x-list(at)matronics.com
To: Email-Lists(at)matronics.com
Subject: XDP4000X-List: List Browsing Feature!
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:52:33 -0700
-- XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle
Dear Listers,
I thought I'd post a little reminder to everyone about a very slick feature
of the email Lists here at Matronics. You can now use Netscape or Internet
Explorer to browse the current messages on your favorite List! The List
Browse Function tracks the current 7 day's worth of List messages for any
given List. Indexes are updated every 30 minutes with new messages that
have been posted. You can resort the message indexes by Thread, Subject,
Author, or Date and easily track and find current threads.
A number of List members have written to say that they love the List
Browser because they can keep tabs on the latest List messages throughout
the day without having to constantly check their email or wait for the
Digest issue to come out.
You can check out the List Browse Feature by going to the following URL and
clicking on the List of your choice:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Four New Email Lists At Matronics!! |
Dear Listers,
I've just added four new email Lists to the current lineup at
Matronics. These new lists include:
KRNet:
krnet-List(at)matronics.com The RANS KR1 and KR2 Series
Cub:
cub-List(at)matronics.com The Piper J-3 Cub
RV10:
rv10-List(at)matronics.com The New 4-place RV from Van's!
Europa:
europa(at)matronics.com The Slick European Composite
All the usual features are available with the new Lists including the
search engine, archive download, 7-day List browse, and PhotoShare!
To sign up for any or all of the new lists, please go to the List
Subscription page and put in your email address and select the Lists of
your choice. The URL for the Subscription page is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscibe
Don't forget that its your posts that generate traffic on the respective
Lists! Post an introduction and a description of your project or dreams!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [With Good URL This Time!] Four New Email Lists At Matronics!! |
[Typo in the subscribe page URL last time - SORRY! -Matt]
Dear Listers,
I've just added four new email Lists to the current lineup at
Matronics. These new lists include:
KRNet:
krnet-List(at)matronics.com The RANS KR1 and KR2 Series
Cub:
cub-List(at)matronics.com The Piper J-3 Cub
RV10:
rv10-List(at)matronics.com The New 4-place RV from Van's!
Europa:
europa(at)matronics.com The Slick European Composite
All the usual features are available with the new Lists including the
search engine, archive download, 7-day List browse, and PhotoShare!
To sign up for any or all of the new lists, please go to the List
Subscription page and put in your email address and select the Lists of
your choice. The URL for the Subscription page is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Don't forget that its your posts that generate traffic on the respective
Lists! Post an introduction and a description of your project or dreams!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Harry Paine <hpaine(at)earthlink.net> |
WE WILL BE CROSSING THE BORDER IN WASHINGTON INTO CANADA ON AUGUST 24
FLYING THE ALASKAN HWY TO
WHEREVER THE WEATHER IS BEST! RETURNING TO THE US BORDER SEPT 1ST. NO
CAMPING MOTELS ONLY. IF YOU CAN (NOT WANT) TO GO AND HAVE A FLYING
AIRPLANE CONTACT ME.
HARRY PAINE
hpaine(at)earthlink.net
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Getting Bounced From Matronics Lists... |
Dear Listers,
I have two programs I run regularly to purge the various Matronics email
lists of bad email addresses. I referred to these as my Email Weasels and
there is a daily version that is run automatically every night at midnight
and there is a and a monthly version that I run by hand at roughly 30-day
intervals.
The Daily Weasel grinds through the 8 to 10mb of bounced email that is
generated each day looking for obvious things like "user unknown", "host
unknown", and other things that usually mean the user's email address
doesn't exist any longer. The Daily Weasel has been purging 5 to 10 email
addresses each night.
The Monthly Weasel gets more serious about the task and sends a single
message to each list member with specially generated headers and content
information. Any bounces or replies to these messages are considered
errors and the email address is eligible for purging. This program is
particularly useful for "weaseling out" email addresses that are actually
being forwarded to by another email address that is subscribed to a List
and otherwise would not be identifiable. The Monthly Weasel purges roughly
100 nonexistent email addresses each month when it is run.
To check to see if your address has been removed by either of the Email
Weasel programs, you can check the Weasel Status Web Page at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If you find your email address on the Weasel List, but are certain that
everything is working fine now, simply go the Matronics Subscription page
and resubscribe your address. No harm, no foul. The subscription URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
That all having been said, I've noticed that the Daily Weasel may have been
getting a little too aggressive in purging addresses recently and a number
of people have written asking if and why they'd been dropped from the List.
A couple of months ago I rewrote the Daily Weasel program to include a
wider variety of errors and more aggressively purge. One of the new purge
criteria that I added seems to occur a fair amount of the time (Connection
Deferred) even though the address is really okay.
As of today, I've removed the Connection Deferred criteria from the Daily
Weasel Rule set and this should decrease the number of "false positives"
and unnecessary unsubscribed.
Again, if you get unsubscribed by either of the Email Weasel utilities,
simply go to the subscription page and resubscribe:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | Flylow38(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Pilot emergency chutes for sale |
>2 Pilot Emergency Chutes For Sale. Used in my RV4 for 6 months. Very
>compact.
> > Chute 1 is a Red 26' foot Micro Softie with Quick release buckles.$550.00
Lowered from $750.00. MFG. June-1988, it is a STRONG Mid Lite 26' canopy
>The container is a Micro Softie and was MFG. May 1989. It was used a few
>times in 1993 but thats about it except for my occasional use last year.
>
> > Chute 2 is a Blue with red trim National backpack 360 with sheepskin
>padding.>The National 360 was MFG. Dec. 1985. 24' Phantom Canopy.
> > WAS $575.00 now $450.00>Both chutes were repacked last year and are in
excellent >condition.> > Located in Southern California. I Paid $1450.00 for
both, I will sell for
>$950 for both. Buyer Pays shipping. Located in Southern California, I can
meet possibly half way to pick up depending on distance.
> > Contact Will Whiteside 818-359-1106 whiteside(at)aol.com
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| From: | "GEORGE INMAN" <ghinman(at)attcanada.ca> |
| Subject: | EMPENAGE INSPECTION |
I have completed my empanage
but did not get the inside rivets inspected
Now i may have to drill out a bunch
of rivets and peel back the skin to allow
inspection of the inside of stabilizers,
rudder,and elevator.
Is there some way around this.
can it be inspected by a borescope
or something.
I really do not want to drill out rivets.
anybody else had this experience.
GEORGE H. INMAN
ghinman(at)attcanada.ca
CELL 204 799 7062
HOME 204 287 8334
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| From: | "Bartrim, Todd" <sbartrim(at)mail.canfor.ca> |
| Subject: | EMPENAGE INSPECTION |
Hi George;
Check with your MD-RA inspector. Their attitudes vary greatly. I
myself was in this situation, but for different reasons. I was originally
going to get my inspection done by our local Transport Canada inspector
since he was still actively inspecting. He told me to go ahead and close it
up and he would just use a mirror, since the closing rivets are the more
difficult rivets anyways. So I did this and put it aside while I worked on
the wings. I did leave the bottom skins off the wings. When I tried to get a
pre-cover on the emmpenage & wings, MD-RA refused to turned my file over to
Transport Canada. I finally won this battle, but by then our local TC
inspector had retired!
So I put off getting the pre-cover as I expected great hassles over
this. In the meantime I continued to work on the fuse & finish kit. I'm now
close to being done my FWF and really need to put those bottom wing skins on
so I could fit the wings to the fuse, so I bit the bullet and made an
appointment for an inspection. I was anticipating great hassles & was not
looking forward to it.
When the inspector arrived he was very impressed with my overall
workmanship. He took a quick look inside the emmpenage through the lightning
holes, then studied the wings at length due to extra fuel tanks in the
wings. He was very happy with my mods to the wing, then took the opportunity
to examine the inside of the fuse. He made the whole inspection as easy &
painless as possible.
Now while my story had a happy ending, I have heard of other
inspectors that were much harder to deal with. I suspect that had he seen
things inside the wings or fuse that caused him concern, he may have wanted
to take a closer look inside the emmpenage.
So if you feel your workmanship is up to standards, then you
shouldn't be to worried about it. You didn't mention which model you are
building, but I assume it is one of the new pre-punched kits, in which case,
there is even less reason to worry about things like improper edge distance,
etc.
Good luck in finding a co-operative inspector.
S. Todd Bartrim
Turbo 13B rotary powered
RX-9endurance (FWF)
C-FSTB (reserved)
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GEORGE INMAN [SMTP:ghinman(at)attcanada.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 9:45 AM
> To: rvcanada-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVCanada-List: EMPENAGE INSPECTION
>
>
> I have completed my empanage
> but did not get the inside rivets inspected
> Now i may have to drill out a bunch
> of rivets and peel back the skin to allow
> inspection of the inside of stabilizers,
> rudder,and elevator.
> Is there some way around this.
> can it be inspected by a borescope
> or something.
> I really do not want to drill out rivets.
> anybody else had this experience.
>
> GEORGE H. INMAN
> ghinman(at)attcanada.ca
> CELL 204 799 7062
> HOME 204 287 8334
>
>
>
RE: RVCanada-List: EMPENAGE INSPECTION
Hi George;
Check with your MD-RA inspector. Their attitudes vary greatly. I myself was in
this situation, but for different reasons. I was originally going to get my inspection
done by our local Transport Canada inspector since he was still actively
inspecting. He told me to go ahead and close it up and he would just use
a mirror, since the closing rivets are the more difficult rivets anyways. So I
did this and put it aside while I worked on the wings. I did leave the bottom
skins off the wings. When I tried to get a pre-cover on the emmpenage wings,
MD-RA refused to turned my file over to Transport Canada. I finally won this
battle, but by then our local TC inspector had retired!
So I put off getting the pre-cover as I expected great hassles over this. In the
meantime I continued to work on the fuse finish kit. I'm now close to being
done my FWF and really need to put those bottom wing skins on so I could fit
the wings to the fuse, so I bit the bullet and made an appointment for an inspection.
I was anticipating great hassles was not looking forward to it.
When the inspector arrived he was very impressed with my overall workmanship.
He took a quick look inside the emmpenage through the lightning holes, then studied
the wings at length due to extra fuel tanks in the wings. He was very happy
with my mods to the wing, then took the opportunity to examine the inside
of the fuse. He made the whole inspection as easy painless as possible.
Now while my story had a happy ending, I have heard of other inspectors that were
much harder to deal with. I suspect that had he seen things inside the wings
or fuse that caused him concern, he may have wanted to take a closer look inside
the emmpenage.
So if you feel your workmanship is up to standards, then you shouldn't be to worried
about it. You didn't mention which model you are building, but I assume
it is one of the new pre-punched kits, in which case, there is even less reason
to worry about things like improper edge distance, etc.
Good luck in finding a co-operative inspector.
S. Todd Bartrim
Turbo 13B rotary powered
RX-9endurance (FWF)
C-FSTB (reserved)
http://www3.telus.net/haywire/RV-9/C-FSTB.htm
-----Original Message-----
From: GEORGE INMAN [SMTP:ghinman(at)attcanada.ca]
Subject: RVCanada-List: EMPENAGE INSPECTION
-- RVCanada-List message posted by: GEORGE INMAN ghinman(at)attcanada.ca
I have completed my empanage
but did not get the inside rivets inspected
Now i may have to drill out a bunch
of rivets and peel back the skin to allow
inspection of the inside of stabilizers,
rudder,and elevator.
Is there some way around this.
can it be inspected by a borescope
or something.
I really do not want to drill out rivets.
anybody else had this experience.
GEORGE H. INMAN
ghinman(at)attcanada.ca
CELL 204 799 7062
HOME 204 287 8334
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: EMPENAGE INSPECTION |
Are you making up stuff? Only one preflight inspection required? BTW, I'm
in the same boat if you aren't making up stuff.
----- Original Message -----
From: "GEORGE INMAN" <ghinman(at)attcanada.ca>
Subject: RVCanada-List: EMPENAGE INSPECTION
>
> I have completed my empanage
> but did not get the inside rivets inspected
> Now i may have to drill out a bunch
> of rivets and peel back the skin to allow
> inspection of the inside of stabilizers,
> rudder,and elevator.
> Is there some way around this.
> can it be inspected by a borescope
> or something.
> I really do not want to drill out rivets.
> anybody else had this experience.
>
> GEORGE H. INMAN
> ghinman(at)attcanada.ca
> CELL 204 799 7062
> HOME 204 287 8334
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "GEORGE INMAN" <ghinman(at)attcanada.ca> |
| Subject: | empenage inspection |
Are you making up stuff? Only one preflight inspection required? BTW, I'm
in the same boat if you aren't making up stuff.
I am not making this up.
the inspector only talked to me on the phone so far,
and he said he would try to get around it,but
apparently builders should not close off stabilizers
and elevators until the interior is inspected!!
I am building an rv-8 prepunched kit
GEORGE H. INMAN
ghinman(at)attcanada.ca
CELL 204 799 7062
HOME 204 287 8334
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: empenage inspection |
Thanks. I am building an RV-7. Guess I better get busy and check with the
FSDO to see what is really required vs. what I think was required.
----- Original Message -----
From: "GEORGE INMAN" <ghinman(at)attcanada.ca>
Subject: RVCanada-List: empenage inspection
>
> Are you making up stuff? Only one preflight inspection required? BTW,
I'm
> in the same boat if you aren't making up stuff.
>
> I am not making this up.
> the inspector only talked to me on the phone so far,
> and he said he would try to get around it,but
> apparently builders should not close off stabilizers
> and elevators until the interior is inspected!!
> I am building an rv-8 prepunched kit
>
>
> GEORGE H. INMAN
> ghinman(at)attcanada.ca
> CELL 204 799 7062
> HOME 204 287 8334
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2002 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing
short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show much traffic the
Lists generated last year alone:
11/01/2001 - 10/31/2002
Web server hits: 8,700,000 (727,000/mo)
Incoming Email Posts: 51,259 (4,271/mo) *
* This number is multiplied by the total number of email addresses
subscribed to the given List. The actual number of email message processed
is in the 50,000,000 range for last year!!
The new Internet provider, Speakeasy, has been providing extremely fast and
reliable service over the last year, and this has certainly been a
refreshing change from previous providers!
There were a couple of new features added at the tail-end of last year
including the new List Browse Feature ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
), and the List Photoshare which have been both very popular. Many people
have written to say how much they enjoy the on-line browsing capability of
current week's messages. The 184 new Photoshares (
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare ) added over the last year attests to
its acceptance and appreciation in the community as well.
I have upgraded both the email and web server OS systems recently to the
latest - well almost the latest - version of Redhat Linux and Kernel
2.4.19, both of which have been working very well and quite reliably.
What does the future hold? Well, something pretty exciting I'm
hoping... I am currently evaluating a new, commercially available software
package that runs under Linux and provides a complete web-based Email List
service akin to what those other guys use. The difference will be that
there won't be any annoying advertisements and popup ads on the Matronics
system!! The system will continue to be dedicated to furthering Lists
activities and not trying to sell you something you don't want. My hope is
to keep most if not all of the current functionality in place and add the
new software system over the top. Some of the system will be replaced
(like majordomo), but the lists will work much like they do today - only
BETTER! As I mentioned, I am currently in the evaluation stage of this and
have yet to select a final product. Suffice to say some facelifts are
definitely on the way!
Unlike many of the other "list servers" on the web these days, I have a
strict no-commercial-advertisement policy on the Matronics Lists and
associated List websites. I have been approached by a number of vendors
recently with advertising deals that have been very tempting. However, my
commitment to providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment
prevails! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing
exponentially every year with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to
mention the ever increasing Virus attacks. My goal with the Matronics List
Service is to provide my members with a commercial-free, safe, and
high-performance system in which to share information, ideas, and
camaraderie.
I recoup my upgrade, maintenance, and operating costs by having a List Fund
Raiser once a year during November. During this time, I ask List members
to donate a small amount of money to support the continued operation of the
Lists over the upcoming year. Contributions in the $20, $30, and $50 range
are common. This year I have completely revamped the Contribution website,
and have added the ability to use PayPal to make your Contribution in
addition to the traditional Visa/MC and Personal Check Options. Its easier
and faster than ever before to make your Contribution!! For those who are
accustomed to using PayPal to make Internet purchases, will appreciate the
ease and speed of using this handy method of payment to make their List
Contribution.
The best news this year, however, is that I have a couple of fantastic Gift
offers to support the List Fund Raiser! Andy Gold of The Builder's
Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ) will be generously donating a
FREE Jeppesen Flight Bag to anyone making a $50 or more List Contribution
during the Fund Raiser! This is a great bag and something you'll surely
what to get your hands on. Thanks Andy, for this great incentive!!
In addition to the great Flight Bag, I will also be offering a FREE
Matronics List Archive CDROM for a $50 or greater Contribution! This is a
complete set of archives for all Email Lists currently hosted by
Matronics. The Archives date back to the beginning of the each List. In
the case of the RV-List, for example, this includes archives all the way
back to 1990! That's about 133Mb alone! Also included on the CD is a copy
of Chip Gibbion's Windows Archive Search Utility and a precompiled
search-index for each archive on the CD.
Better yet?! You can get BOTH the Flight Bag AND the Archive CD for a
Contribution of $75 or more which is actually LESS than the combined retail
price on the two items!!! How can you go wrong? Get some great stuff AND
support your Lists at the same time!
Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List
Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the
process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the
generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from
a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made
possible through YOUR support!
I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who supports the
List this year. Your generosity contributes directly to the quality of the
experience here.
To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with
a Personal Check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find
additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as additional
information on the various methods of payment.
SSL Secure Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Again, I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this
year! Your Contributions truly make it all possible!!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New List Digest Feature!! [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I've added a new feature to the Digest format of the Lists tonight. At the
top of each digest you will find a new Index Listing of all of the messages
found within that Digest including the Message Number, Subject, Poster, and
Time of Day posted.
I've also added a "Message Number" header to each message within the Digest
so that its easy to find 'just the message' you were looking for!
Sorry for the double posting of the digests tonight - the first time I
didn't quite have the code right and a few "bogus" entries made it into the
Index. I went ahead and reposted the Digest so that everyone could see how
the Index-to-Message mapping really worked.
Special 'thanks' to Gary Hall for not only suggesting a Digest Index, but
also supplying a few samples on how it might look. Gary, I think you'll be
quite pleased with the format!
Don't forget that were right in the middle of this year's List Fund Raiser
and if you haven't already made your Contribution, you own it to yourself
to check out the great free Gifts that are available this year with your
qualifying Contribution.
The Lists are operated completely though the support of it members, and so
its up to YOU to get that credit card out and make that $20, $30, or $50
show of support for the continued operation of the Lists.
Won't you take a couple of minutes and make a quick Contribution on the all
new, streamlined List Support web site? I've also added a
Payment-through-PayPal option this year, and this is proving a very popular
method of payment. Don't forget to check out the great free gifts you can
get with a qualifying Contribution this year. I can't believe how popular
they've been this year! Hurry and get your's today and support the Lists
at the same time!
Here's the SSL Secure URL for making your Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser - What Listers Are Saying... |
Dear Listers,
First, I'd like say *thank you* to everyone that's already made a
Contribution to this year's List Fund Raiser! Thank you! If you haven't
already made a Contribution, won't you take a movement and show your
support for these valuable services? Since there's no advertising or other
forms of direct commercialism on the forums to support the Lists, its soley
YOUR GENEROSITY that keeps them running!!
Won't please take a minute and make a Contribution via the SSL secure web
site via Credit Card, Paypal, or personal check. Here's the URL:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
This year, I've been getting some *really* nice comments from Contributors
and I thought I'd pass along a few of them below. What does the List mean
to *you*?
Thank you for your support!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
_________________ What your fellow Listers are saying... _________________
...great service!!
Greg B.
They have been a great assistance to me in building my RV-8.
Kevin H.
...very much appreciated.
Donald M.
Great site...
Angus F.
...invaluable resource.
Ronald C
[The List] has played a big part in continuing my project at
those times when I got stuck for some reason.
Jeff D.
Although I am only a reader, I find the list very helpful.
Oswaldo F.
The lists are a fantastic resource and are helping me very much...
Kenyon B.
The list is part of my life.
Ron C.
The CD will free up some hard disk space on my personal PC.
Jeff D.
...unbelievably useful.
Dan O.
...dependable and valued source of builder information.
Jerry C.
My daily lifeline!
Owen B.
...frequently get questions answered on the List.
Billy W.
Don't know how any first-time builder could get by without the lists.
Rick R.
...great source of information and motivation.
Jef V.
Super resource!
David P.
The information presented is very helpful to the building process.
James B.
Wonderful Service!
Wendell D.
The lists are great!
F. Robert M.
...very valuable to this builder.
William C.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser Continues... |
Marie Murillo
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder this morning that we're well into this year's Email
List Fund Raiser. Response has been great so far and there has been a lot
of interest in the Gift options. Speaking of those Gifts, I received a
sample of the Jeppesen Flight Bag from Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore
http://www.buildersbooks.com this weekend, and let me just say that this is
an extremely fine quality unit. Its very light, folds down into a very
small form for storage, and will hold a whole lot of your "pilot
stuff"! For a mere $50 List Contribution, one of these very nice bags
could be yours! You'll be the envy of all your friends.
Won't you make a Contribution today to support the these valuable Email
List Services? Please remember that its YOUR generosity that entirely
supports the continued operation and upgrade of the Lists. That's it - no
ads, no banners - just good clean fun; that is, with your support of course!
Please take a moment and make a generous Contribution today. It only takes
a minute using the newly redesigned Contribution Web Site where you can use
either a Credit Card, PayPal, or a Personal Check to make your donation.
The URL for the SSL Secure Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
And I'd like to say a special "thank you!" to everyone one who has made
Contribution so far this year!! I really appreciate your generosity!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Wow, I can't belive some of the nice things people have been saying about
the Lists in that little message box on the Contribution form! I've
included more of the great comments since the last WLAS. Thank you to
everyone that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great
feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!!
Have a look at some of your fellow members thoughts below and decide if the
Lists mean at least that much to you or perhaps even more...
Won't you take a moment and make a Contribution to support these
Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, high-performance List
services? Its your direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that
enables all of these valuable services you've come to expect of the
Matronics Lists.
Thank you for your Contribution!!
SSL Secure Web Site - http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
EMail List Administrator
=====================================================================
=================== What Listers Are Saying - II ====================
=====================================================================
I check this List 4 to 5 times a day...
-Bruce B.
These are without a doubt among the best managed
Lists to which I subscribe.
-Terry W.
Thank you for providing such a wonderful service.
-Roy W.
...fine service!
-Christopher A.
Best list on the Internet!
-Geroge A.
Great list with a host of features.
-David A.
Having built part of a kit... ...I know exactly how
much this list means to me and others.
-Curtis H.
As always... you've got a real cool & very useful
service going...
-Chuck R.
I shudder to think of the trouble I would have had
getting this project airborne without this list!
-Grant C.
...enjoy everyone's input.
-Doug P.
I read the [the List] every day...
-Ronald S.
Whenever I feel like not building on my day
off....I open my mail and the [the List] gets me
pumped and ready to hit it!
-Tom E.
The Digest Message subject list is an excellent
addition.
-Kevin S.
Certainly the [the List] has been a valuable source
for building support and advice, but there's another
benefit,... the wonderful friends that we meet and
keep for years and years!
-Fred H.
What a great forum to exchange ideas and info.
-Terry L.
The List is my daily RV fix.
-Neil H.
I always received comments and suggestions when
I requested them.
-Thomas G.
Best resource a builder could ever have. A daily
must!
-Robert C.
Thanks for your gift - these web sites!
-Tom P.
...great info.
-Richard W.
The List empowers all RV builders to achieve success...
-Mark G.
I've been reading the postings for a month now and
decided to take the plunge as a result of the
helpfulness and spirit of cooperation I observed.
-Tim P.
...invaluable service.
-Ford F.
I check in at least twice daily for my e-mail "Fix".
-John S.
Its worth every penny of my contribution.
-Paul M.
Wonderful web site and it keeps getting better.
-Jim H.
A valuable list which has certainly helped me.
-Andrew G.
...the List helps so many.
-Don J.
I really appreciate the site and find it interesting
to speak to people who are into this type of aircraft.
-Larry M.
This is a great recreation for me.
-Larry B.
[The List] keeps me up to date and provides a fantastic
resource for information.
-Terry F.
Lists are a great resource!
-Daniel S.
...great service and professional administration of
the Lists.
-Chris R.
I really appreciate the List.
-Edward O.
Worth every penny, and then some!
-Kenyon B.
...great service.
-Ralph H.
Your unselfish contribution to the experimental
aircraft movement is very much appreciated!
-Alex M.
Great help on the Aeroelectric list.
-Bruce B.
It helps on a daily basis.
-Tim G.
Thanks for providing this outstanding service to us!
-Michel T.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | LOC Coming Soon... |
Dear Listers,
This year's List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner. I'll be
posting the LOC on or about December 1. The List of Contributors is a
directory of everyone's name that made a Contribution during this year's
List Fund Raiser. Its kind of my way of publicly thanking everyone that so
generously made a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these Lists.
Support your Lists today and make sure that your name is on the upcoming
LOC! Your friends will be checking no doubt to see if YOU make your
Contribution because THEY did! :-)
Support Contribution Info - http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | [ Jaye and Scott Jackson ] : New Email List Photo Share |
Available!
| From: | Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com> |
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Jaye and Scott Jackson
Subject: First Flight!
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/jayeandscott@shaw.ca.11.16.2002/index.html
--------------------------------------------
o EMAIL LIST PHOTO SHARE
Share your files and photos with other List members simply by
emailing the files to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
Please view the typical Share above and include the Description Text
Fields as shown along with your submission of files and photos.
o Main Photo Share Index:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
--------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
Dear Listers,
I got to thinking today that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund
Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List
Services here provide a far better experience than the commercial
equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is
outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of
messages online for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses. I am currently working on the additional ability to post and/or
reply directly from the List Browse interface. More on this upcoming
feature in the next week or so.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where
also building RVs. It has grown into over 40 different aviation-related
Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 9,000,000 hits
each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards well over
50,000,000 (yes, that 50 MILLION) email messages to subscribers each
year! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
We are quickly approaching the end of November and the official end of the
List Fund Raiser. If you look forward to checking your List email everyday
(and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably
getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each
year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or
even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to
you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a
well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support
YOUR Lists.
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution
thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made
possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status... |
Dear Listers,
A couple of people have written asking what the shipping status was of
their free List Contribution Gifts. Seemed like some status was in order
and I thought I detail where we're at...
Flight Bag Requests
-------------------
On 11/20/02 I shipped out the first batch of Flight Bag-Only (FBO) gift
requests. I shipped all FBO gift requests I had received from 11/1 to
11/19 except for 3 (Sorry guys!) - I ran out of my first shipment flight
bags! Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com
) is supplying me with another batch flight bags which should arrive in
about 2 weeks.
By the way, these are REALLY nice Flight Bags. Extremely well built and
very professional looking. Folds down into a very small size, but will
hold a huge amount of stuff. If you fly, and you've got a lot of stuff,
they you WANT one of these guys. Surf over to the List Contribution page
for details on how to get one of your own!!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The Flight Bags have been shipped out US Mail Parcel Post in a large, and I
mean LARGE, padded white plastic envelope. According to the Post Office,
worse case delivery time would be 8 days to destinations on the East Coast,
but indicated it would likely take a lot less time.
Archive CDROM Requests
----------------------
The Archive CDROMs will be mastered and burned on or about December 1 and
should ship out shortly there after. Shipping will be US Mail, Media Rate
in a big padded white envelope. The Archive List data included will be up
to November 30th.
Flight Bag and Archive CDROM Requests
-------------------------------------
These combination orders will ship out when the Archive CDROMs are complete
as described above, likely a little after December 1. The Flight Bag and
the CDROM will be shipped together in the same Giant white padded envelope!
Again, I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore for providing
these awesome Flight Bags to support the List Fund Raiser. Andy has gone
way beyond the call of duty with regard to his support of the Lists this
year and to show your gratitude I would ask that you have a look at his web
site and great media offerings. You'll find some excellent deals on some
very useful material. http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a
Contribution so far this year! Your generosity and kindness is greatly
appreciated. If you've been putting off making a Contribution, now's a
great time show your appreciation in plenty of time to make it onto this
year's List of Contributors AND get your free gift with qualifying
Contribution!!!
List Contribution Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution/
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New List FAQs! |
Dear Listers,
I got to looking at the Email List FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) today
and realized that they where miserably out of date. I spent a wad of time
today completely revising them and adding in documentation on all of the
many new features such as the List Browse and Photoshare. Many of the
little-known features are documented in there now, too, so even if you're a
seasoned List veteran, you might want to give it a read. Never know what
you might discover.
At the bottom of this message in the Trailer you will find a new link item
called "List FAQ" with a URL for this specific List. Just click on it and
print it out or read it online.
Don't forget that November is the List Fund Raiser month! The "2002 List
of Contributors" is just days away and I know you'll want to make sure your
name is on it!! Please make your Contribution today to support the
continued operation of these List Services!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
There are only a few days left until the November List of Contributors. I
thought I'd take another opportunity to pass along some of the really nice
things people have been saying recently about the Lists and how much they
mean to them.
If you receive value from the Lists in the form of ideas, assistance,
comradery, moral support, inspiration, or just plain 'ol good
entertainment, then won't take a moment to make a Contribution to support
the continued operation and upgrade of them?
Secure List Contribution Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
What does the List mean to you? Here's what some of your fellow
contributing List members have said...
------------------------- What Listers Are Saying -------------------------
Great service for aviation types like me.
Larry H
Best investment I've made.
Harley B
I've been on this list since around 1996 and used it to
help me finish my RV-6A three years ago. I'm still here
because I still learn from it and use it to help others
like me who may be where nobody else is building a RV.
Thanks for your service to our community. It's appreciated.
Jim S
[List] people are a great break away from politics, religion
and other sordid subjects.
Robert B
This site is a great confidence builder for the amateur builder.
Gene L
Great service!
Barry P
Very handy list to have, a good place for a beginner to
get great answers from those who already experienced it.
...sure enjoy reading it.
Joel R
...valuable service!
Chris & Indira K
This is the better than any morning paper - the best and
most frequent service that I use on the Internet. Great
job! This will make building the RV doable for me.
Pete E
I enjoy all of the ideas, suggestions and humor that comes
with this list. I don't think I could build my RV4 with
out everyone's help.
Ross S
GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!
James W
The list is a great source of information, motivation,
entertainment, passionate debate, and light-hearted back
slapping. I wouldn't be without it.
Roger H
...would still be looking for plans to hook-up s-tec auto
pilot without your service!
David S
The new [digest] format is good.
Graham S
Great information you can't get anywhere else. Lots of nice
people who have "Been there...done that."
George D
My normal morning routine:
1 Kiss "the princess"
2 Good cup of coffee
3 Log onto "List"
A wonderful means of exchanging ideas, asking questions,
gathering information, and sharing experiences.
Robert G
Great lists. Not only are the lists professionally and efficiently
managed, but the *people* on the lists are very helpful, friendly
and fun to chat with. Thank you for this wonderful resource.
Ihab A
Thanks a million, well maybe not a million!!! (:
Ken H
I need this fix every morning or I get grumpy...
Wayne P
Very useful lists
Paul E
This communication medium that you created, nurtured and
continue to maintain is the best thing since AN rivets!
Jim J
The information I gleaned off the list has always been
helpful.
Kenneth B
I've been a subscriber to varied lists for several years
now. The knowledge provided has been extremely useful
throughout.
David P
Enjoy everyone's input even though I am not a
builder...just a flyer.
Douglas P
Just laughin' and a scratchin'
Dennis N
It is a real asset and good for comic relief.
Ross S
I can't build my plane without your service!
Kent H
Great info on the lists!
Wesley H
I'm very new to the List but have already benefited
greatly.
Jim S
The "List" has been my best source for information
concerning my aviation projects. Besides, it also
brings a bunch of people together to share their
interests and knowledge. Thanks for providing a
state of the art, easy to use resource tool.
David A
I have saved a lot of grief and dollars from referencing
this site. It is truly an extension of Van's product
support.
Joseph C
Terrific asset this List is to the builder!
Scott J
Great service!
Tony B
Look forward to the list each and every day.
John B
I could not cope up here in this lonely island without
the help of the List and all the wonderful helpful
people that have the experience of aircraft building
and flying for fun.
Johann J
This list is part of my daily routine. I'm addicted.
Terry D
Great forum!
John H
This list is my main interest in the Internet.
George R
Great list. The best out there on any subject.
Kevin H
Been on the list since 1998 and I still look forward to
reading the list every day. A most valuable tool. I have
picked up many useful tips during the construction of
my RV-4.
Jerry I
Thanks for all of your hard work on the lists. It is
one of the reasons I bought a CJ-6A. Without the
Yak-list, I believe it would have been much more
difficult to get all the information that I need
for safe operation and maintenance of this fine
aircraft.
David L
The List has been an amazing source of useful
information. I consider it one of my best builder
tools.
Gunter M
An excellent channel of information. I have gained a
wealth of knowledge on both building and flying Kolb
aircraft.
Jim B
Enjoy the wealth of information that is shared.
Richard N
Fine service.
Beauford T
[The] List is the first stop of the day. Made lot of
friends from it.
Orie S
The information I gleaned off the List has always been
helpful.
Kenneth B
Over the 3+ years that I have been building, I check it
several times each day. I have learned a lot of very
useful tips that have helped me in my building.
Richard D
Not only is it worth a contribution for the info gleaned
from it but the personalities alone are pure entertainment!
Stephen F
This is great stuff!!! Entertaining, too!! Fast answers
from those who really know...
Bob R
I am building an RV-9A and have received help from
the lists and occasionally been able to give help to
others.
Alden Van W
This list has saved me countless hours of work and worry
already, and I'm only halfway there! Undoubtedly the most
important aid I have yet found in this sometimes
intimidating process of building an aircraft.
Paul H
I've been a member since '96 and have learned so much from
the vast knowledge of the listers.
Gary Z
Outstanding List, exceptionally maintained.
David S
Thanks for all the improvements you've made this year. The
Photoshare feature definitely proves "one picture is worth
a thousand words".
Richard H
I finished my RV6A this year. It is a much better airplane
because of the help I found on the RV and Aeroelectric
Lists.
Dale W
Can't imagine building without the list.
Larry H
The list continues to be a great resource of information
and advice.
Jeff O
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Gift Selection Added - List Fund Raiser! [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I've just added a great new last minute Gift Selection to this year's List
Fund Raiser line up! I have a very limited number of sets of a wonderful
collection of Aircraft Technical books by Jeppesen entitled "The A&P
Technical Series Book Set". This is a great opportunity to make a generous
Contribution to support the Lists and walk away with a great set of
reference manuals at the same time.
This set of books normally retails for over $117 PLUS shipping, but you can
pick up your set AND make this year's List Contribution for a cool C-note -
that's a $100, by the way! :-) I'm thinking "Great Christmas Gift"...
There's more information on the books and making your Contribution at the
List Contribution web site:
Email List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
We're coming close to the official end of this year's List Fund Raiser and
if you haven't yet made your Contribution, there's still time get your name
on that List of Contributors! The percentage of contributors is kind of
low this year but I'm hoping many of you are just holding out until the
last minute!
I want to thank each and everyone of you that has already made a donation
to support the continued operation and upgrade of these List Services. As
I've mentioned in the past, running these Lists is a labor of love for me
and the hours upon hours of code development, system maintenance, and
upgrades are MY Contribution to support this great resource for Builders
and Flyer's alike. Won't your take a minute and make YOUR Contribution today?
I want to thank you for your support both during the Fund Raiser but also
throughout the year in the form of kind words and moral support. A nice
comment from a List member about how much the lists have helped them is
always a sure way to brighten my day!
Thank you to all!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ!] "What is my Contribution used for?" |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What is my Contribution used for?", and this is a valid
question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support
enables. It provides for the expensive, business-class, high-speed
Internet connection used on the List, insuring maximum performance and
minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular
system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance
possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine and List
Browser. It pays for 14+ years worth of online archive data available for
instant random access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing,
developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List
Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, and Photoshare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and
your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from
moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer
viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements
about these days? I will venture to say - next to none...
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many desirable aspects
of this most valuable List service. Please support it today with your List
Contribution. Its the best investment you can make in your Sport - BAR NONE!
Email List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
This is the last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser. Based on previous
year's percentages of Lister's making a Contribution, this year we are
nearly 40% behind the normal... And I thought all those great gifts would
eke the percentage up past the average a little. Oh well. Maybe people
just don't really mind the flashing banner ads for Viagra, and popups for
X10 minicams...
There's still plenty of time to get your name of the List of
Contributors. I'll probably publish the LOC on Monday night after I
process the checks from the Post Office.
I do want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so
far this year. Your support is greatly appreciated and is what makes the
Lists possible.
How to support your Lists this month: http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New List Digest Format!! |
Dear Listers,
I've just finished up some awesome code that will completely change your
thinking about how email Digests should work and look! Yeah, I'm kind of
proud of it, that is true... :-)
What you'll be getting in the new List Digest message is the
following: The main message will contain the new text-based index I
introduced a few weeks back. But here's where things get
different... Instead of simply including all of the day's posts in line
within the message, there will now be included two enclosures - one with a
HTML encoded version of the Digests, and another with the usual text-only
version of the Digests.
I think you're really going to like the new HTML enclosure of the
Digests. All of the Indexes at the top are now hyperlinked to the actual
posts and there are hyperlinks at the top of each post that will:
o Take you back to the Index
o Take you to the next post
o Take you to the previous post
o Allow you to respond to the LIST regarding the message
o Allow you to respond directly to the POSTER regarding the message
You'll have to check it out to appreciate the full goodness of the new
format! :-)
The text-only version is basically exactly the same data that has been
normally sent in line within the message.
You'll also note that the filenames of the enclosures are such that they
can be conveniently placed in a personal "archive" directory for future
reference.
Hope you enjoy the new Digest format!!!
Oh, and don't forget about the Fund Raiser! :-)
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New, NEW List Digest Format... |
Dear Listers,
Okay, so I woke up this morning to an email box full of hate-mail about the
new List Digest format. I thought it was cool, but I guess not... Still,
it seemed like too much code to just throw out, so I've modified things a
little and I'm hoping everyone will be happy with the new, NEW
arrangement. Here's how it works now:
o The HTML and TXT enclosures aren't sent in the Digest any longer.
o URL Links to the HTML and TEXT versions of the day's Digests
will be found at the top of the digest email.
o The new Digest Index will be found at the top of the digest email
following the URL Links.
o The full digest text will then be found in the email as before.
o All of the previous Digests will now be available on line. The
URL for the main digest page is:
http://www.matronics.com/digest
From here, you can drill into the specific List Digest of interest.
o Both the HTML and TXT versions of the Digests can be found here.
o The List Message Trailer will contain a Link directly to the given
o Right now there's only one Digest shown, but each day there will
be another. They will be sorted with the newest at the top.
Left-hand column is the HTML version, right-hand column the TXT
version.
A couple people also complained that some messages in the HTML version were
just one long line that went off to the right forever and they hated
that. Come to think of it, this is also an issue in the Search Engine,
List Browser, and Archive Browser. Some email programs don't included hard
Returns at regular intervals and that's what causes this. I wrote a
program tonight that will automatically chop these long lines into 78
characters or less and wrap the rest of the line. After tonight's Archive
transfer, all of the Searching and Browsing tools shouldn't have the
problem any longer either. Woo hoo!
So, back to the new Digest format. What people are going to see in the
new, NEW Digest is a bit of verbiage at the top of the email describing the
URL links to the HTML and TXT on-line versions, followed by the Links,
followed by the day's Index, followed by the day's messages just as
before. Lines longer than 78 characters will also be automatically wrapped
onto the next line.
Hopefully this will be a more pleasing arrangement for everyone. Sorry to
get everybody so stirred up over the format change!
The List of Contributors is coming out tomorrow night... Still time to
make that Contribution! http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | "James & Shalise Cash" <jcash(at)charter.net> |
| Subject: | F-1 accident preliminary report |
Thought I'd forward this to all my airplane buddies. If you hadn't heard,
there was an F-1 Rocket crash in Houston, several weeks ago. An eyewitness
saw the aircraft impact the ground near vertical, at a high rate of speed.
The vertical stabilizer tumbled down moments later. This is Mark
Frederick's preliminary finding after talking to the FAA, NTSB, and viewing
the wreckage. It is significant to the RV community because the F-1 tail is nearly
identical to the RV-8, with the exception of a 1/8" doubler on the forward
spar of the vertical stabilizer.
Jimmy
PRELIMINARY REPORT
CREEKMORE F1 ACCIDENT
Hi All:
I'm sure you have been waiting for some definitive data regarding Tom
Creekmore's accident. I was able to inspect the wreckage of the aft section
of the ship last Friday, along with the FAA. The following is my report to
you, not an official NTSB report.
Preliminary Results are as follows:
The builders did not fabricate nor install the upper attachment fitting for
the V Fin aft spar. This is a length of 1x1x.125 6061T6 angle that is
designed to absorb the Fin torque loads resulting from rudder deflections.
Four AN3 fasteners attach this fitting to the aft section of the fuselage,
and to the V Fin aft spar.
Lack of this fitting caused the HS-015 to absorb most of the Fin torque
loads, in addition to flexing the HS-015 past its fatigue life. It appears
that the HS-015 failed at one of the V Fin spar attach bolts, and separated
from the H Stab spar.
In addition, the V Fin fwd spar/HS-015 attach holes were not drilled per the
assy manual, with one hole appearing to have about 3/16" ED on the HS-015
(3/8" would be a standard distance). The separation at the HS-015 appears to
have started at this hole.
I will wait for the NTSB to publish their findings, and I'll add this to a
dedicated web page detailing what happened.
Regards,
Mark
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| From: | "Bert Penney" <van(at)entechnos.com> |
Does anyone know of a good supplier in Canada for the tools necessary to
build an RV? I was hoping that I could find one that offers an "RV kit"
like the one Avery offers.
Thanks
Bert
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| From: | "Tim Houle" <thoule(at)kneehill.com> |
I could never find anyone in Canada that has as good a selection as Avery,
Cleveland or Brown. Anything I did find in Canada the price was no better.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Penney" <van(at)entechnos.com>
Subject: RVCanada-List: RV Tools
>
> Does anyone know of a good supplier in Canada for the tools necessary to
> build an RV? I was hoping that I could find one that offers an "RV kit"
> like the one Avery offers.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bert
>
>
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| From: | "Gannon, Terence" <Terence.Gannon(at)trican.ca> |
I concurr with Tim...suppliers of aerospace tools in Canada are hard to
find. However, I did buy some Chicago Pneumatic tools (angle drill, nut
runner) at the House of Tools here in Calgary, and the guy that I spoke
with (who was building a KR-2!) said that they were able to order most
CP tools these days. Maybe this helps a little...regards...
Terry in Calgary
RV-6 S/N 24414
"Wings"
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Houle [mailto:thoule(at)kneehill.com]
Subject: Re: RVCanada-List: RV Tools
I could never find anyone in Canada that has as good a selection as
Avery, Cleveland or Brown. Anything I did find in Canada the price was
no better.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Penney" <van(at)entechnos.com>
Subject: RVCanada-List: RV Tools
>
> Does anyone know of a good supplier in Canada for the tools necessary
> to build an RV? I was hoping that I could find one that offers an "RV
> kit" like the one Avery offers.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bert
>
>
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| From: | "Bert Penney" <van(at)entechnos.com> |
Thanks, guys. I kind of thought that would be the answer :-(
We have a House of Tools here in Edmonton, but I didn't find much on
their web site. I think I will put together a list of what I need and
go visit them.
Bert
-----Original Message-----
From: Gannon, Terence [mailto:Terence.Gannon(at)trican.ca]
Subject: RE: RVCanada-List: RV Tools
I concurr with Tim...suppliers of aerospace tools in Canada are hard to
find. However, I did buy some Chicago Pneumatic tools (angle drill, nut
runner) at the House of Tools here in Calgary, and the guy that I spoke
with (who was building a KR-2!) said that they were able to order most
CP tools these days. Maybe this helps a little...regards...
Terry in Calgary
RV-6 S/N 24414
"Wings"
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Houle [mailto:thoule(at)kneehill.com]
Subject: Re: RVCanada-List: RV Tools
I could never find anyone in Canada that has as good a selection as
Avery, Cleveland or Brown. Anything I did find in Canada the price was
no better.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Penney" <van(at)entechnos.com>
Subject: RVCanada-List: RV Tools
>
> Does anyone know of a good supplier in Canada for the tools necessary
> to build an RV? I was hoping that I could find one that offers an "RV
> kit" like the one Avery offers.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bert
>
>
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| From: | "Bert Penney" <van(at)entechnos.com> |
Thanks fir the pointers, Tedd. I will keep both Lindair and Leavens in
mind when I am buying tools.
Bert
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| From: | Gunnar Doerwald <gunnar(at)doerwald.net> |
Bert Penney wrote:
>
>Does anyone know of a good supplier in Canada for the tools necessary to
>build an RV? I was hoping that I could find one that offers an "RV kit"
>like the one Avery offers.
>
>Thanks
>
>Bert
>
>
No, Bert, we tried and had to buy the bullet and order from Avery. Very
good tools though and very necessary.
Gunnar Doerwald
RV9a
Virgil, Ontario
>
>
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| From: | "Bert Penney" <van(at)entechnos.com> |
I suspect that I will end up doing the same, but I would like to check
around first.
Bert
-----Original Message-----
From: Gunnar Doerwald [mailto:gunnar(at)doerwald.net]
Subject: Re: RVCanada-List: RV Tools
Bert Penney wrote:
>
>Does anyone know of a good supplier in Canada for the tools necessary
to
>build an RV? I was hoping that I could find one that offers an "RV
kit"
>like the one Avery offers.
>
>Thanks
>
>Bert
>
>
No, Bert, we tried and had to buy the bullet and order from Avery. Very
good tools though and very necessary.
Gunnar Doerwald
RV9a
Virgil, Ontario
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement... |
Dear Listers,
Neil Hulin of the Zenith-List at Matronics wrote to me suggesting I add a
"total of available messages" column to the 7-Day List Browse Main page,
and it seemed like a great idea! I've made the modifications and I think
many will find it extremely helpful as well. Have a look at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin...
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics ISP Upgrade TODAY... |
Dear Listers,
The time has finally arrived for the Internet Service Provider (ISP)
upgrade! You'll recall that I was looking into upgrading the existing SDSL
connection from 768k to 1.1M. As it turned out, the copper line wouldn't
support any speeds greater than the current 768k. In light of that news, I
just bit-the-bullet and ordered a full, commercial-grade T1
connection. The T1 connection will provide a full-duplex, high priority,
1.5Mb Internet connection which should be a substantial performance
enhancement for all of the List services!
Pacbell delivered the T1 Loop last week and it tested out fine. This past
weekend I pulled the tail circuit from the demark to the office. This
afternoon, Tuesday 4/1/03, the ISP is suppose come and install the new
router and bring up routing on a test subnet. Assuming that everything
checks out okay with the T1, new router, and routing, I will have them
swing the main Matronics subnet off the SDSL and onto the T1. In theory,
the swing could be nearly transparent to users, but that's usually not the
case... ;-)
Please expect a bit of instability in connectivity this afternoon as we
work though the transition issues. I will post a follow up message when
everything is up and running on the new T1 line.
Finally, please know that it is solely your Contributions that make these
kinds of List upgrades happen! There is no advertising budget (aka,
flashing banner ads and annoying pop up browser windows) to pay these
bills; operational support is solely from List members like you during the
yearly List Fund Raiser. If you would like to make your Contribution to
support the Lists and upgrades like this T1 connectivity enhancement,
please see the List Contribution Web Site where you can make your
Contribution with a Credit Card, PayPal, or Personal Check. You can even
get a free List Archive CDROM with a qualifying List Contribution! The URL
is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thanks again to EVERYONE that made a generous Contribution last year and
enabled this awesome upgrade to T1 service!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics ISP Upgrade COMPLETED! |
Dear Listers,
I just wanted to send out a quick note to let everyone know that the 1.5Mb
T1 connection upgrade went smoothly today. They brought up the new line
and router yesterday on a test subnet and today the ISP switched over
connectivity about 12 noon with little to no incident. I just finished
some performance testing, and it appears that actual throughput and
interactive response is noticeably improved as advertised!
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Ron Patterson <scc_ron(at)yahoo.com> |
Hello Guys, I have the need to move my RV-4 from the shop where it was built to
the airport. Have about 4-6 months of engine work and avionics and then it will
be ready for inspection and that 'first flight'. Anybody have any suggestions
on how to move this aircraft, safely, some 250 miles??? I thought of an enclosed
moving van, but the horizontal stabilizer is 100" tip to tip ...most trucks
are a max of 96" (outside box measurements). I could tilt it, but fear the
tying down would result in tweaking of the Fuselage. What about a car trailer
with the tail exposed?? I just don't want to screw up 4 years of work in a poorly
conceived transfer. So....any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Ron PattersonN. California
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| From: | Ron Patterson <scc_ron(at)yahoo.com> |
Hello Guy's!
I just moved my RV-4 from the Garage to the Hayward Airport to complete the engine
and avionics and get this baby in the air. Anyone with a lead on an IO-320
or 360 / and any 2-1/4 inch instruments would be appreciated.
Ron Patterson N8ZD (reserved)
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| From: | <phil(at)petrasoft.net> |
Please see the attached zip file for details.
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| From: | <smidler(at)dcwi.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Wicked screensaver |
Please see the attached file for details.
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this
evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes
in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming
email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent
to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-)
The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses
each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely
effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its
time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this
SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent
solution.
I will post a follow up message later in the week when things
have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] SPAM Filter Could Be Causing Posting Problems |
For Some Members...?
Dear Listers,
Matronics is now utilizing a SPAM filter appliance to filter out the
excessive amounts of inappropriate email that bombards the Email List
Forums each day. The filter is reporting that over 66% of the email
messages sent to Matronics email destinations are of SPAM content and
reviewing the logfiles, it would appear to be true. That is indeed great!
While the Lists are enjoying the breath of fresh air afforded by the new
appliance, I am suspecting that a few legitimate email List posts are being
blocked as too, although I can't confirm this. It is difficult to churn
through the logfiles looking though thousands of blocked email messages
trying to determine if any legitimate List posts were blocked.
If you suspect that your posts are accidently being blocked by the SPAM
filter appliance, I have created a new Trouble Report web page that will
allow you to report your problems directly to me without having to use
email. If the SPAM filter is blocking your email address for some reason,
then its likely that I wouldn't be able to receive your direct email
regarding difficulty in posting. The web form bypasses the incoming email
and directs your message directly to me.
Please include as much information as possible regarding the problems you
are having including any bounced email or email error messages that you may
have received back in regard to your posts to the lists. The more
information I have about the email you are sending and what the errors you
are receiving, the better chance I'll have in hunting down the problem.
The Trouble Report Website URL is:
http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report/
I apologize for any inconvenience the SPAM filter may be causing you. I
will work toward resolving your issues as quickly as possible.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New Matronics Email List Online Chat!!! |
Hi Listers!
A number of Listers have been asking for some Matronics Email List online
chat and NOW ITS HERE! Over the last couple of days I've set up a nifty
web-based Chat site here on the Matronics systems. No special programs to
download; all you need is a late model web browser like Internet Explorer
or Netscape with a java plugin. I would recommend downloading the latest
Java plugin if you experience any problems getting the page to come
up. Here's a link to the Sun Java download
website. http://java.com/en/index.jsp Look for the green box with the
yellow arrow in the upper right corner. Before you bother, though, just
try you browser because it'll probably just work.
Each Email List on Matronics has its own "Room" and all rooms can easily be
accessed from the same client. In the Email List URL Trailer at the bottom
of each List message, you'll find the Link to this List's specific Chat
Room. Just click on the Link, and then type in your name or email address
in the User Name box. Try to use a name or email address that the other
Listers know you by. You'll find me lurking around the various List chat
rooms as "MattDralle".
There's a couple of nifty features I'll explain right off. On the main
Chat Window page after you login, you'll see a little icon with a Hammer
and a Screwdriver. This is the Control Panel window. Once the Control
Panel comes up, click on the "Settings" tab. Here you'll find, among other
things, three check boxes to enable sound. Click all three and you'll be
treated to a sound whenever someone enters or leaves the Room, or when
someone sends a message.
The other cool button is the one that has four little arrows pointing to
each of the four corners of the button. This will rip the main Chat window
from the web page and allow you to resize and move it anyway you'd like.
Let's have some fun and get to know one another better using this awesome
new Chat Room! To get started, just click the URL Link below for this
List's specific Chat Room!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
PS - I'm working on a web link interface to the chat logfiles. Coming soon...
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing
short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show how much traffic
the Lists generated this year alone:
* 11/01/2002 - 10/31/2003
o Web server hits: 10,446,780 (870,565/mo)
o Incoming Email Posts: 58,918 (4,909/mo)
List-related upgrades this year have been plentiful, and List performance
has substantially improved as a result. Upgrades and enhancements this
year have included:
* Internet Connection upgrade to a full, commercial-grade T1 Line!
* New Web Server platform - Dual 3Ghz Xeon with 2Gb Ram and U320 SCSI!
* Upgrade of Email Server platform - Dual 1.7 Ghz Xeon with 1Gb Ram!
* All new SPAM Filtering Appliance - filters about 98% of the unwanted SPAM!
* All new, web-base List Chat Room society!
As you can well imagine, this year's upgrades translate into a fair amount
of cash outlay on my part and this annual List Fund Raiser is the sole
means by which I fund these upgrades. Unlike most of the other "list
servers" on the Web these days, I have a strict
*no-commercial-advertisement policy* on the Matronics Lists and associated
List web sites. I was again approached by a number of vendors recently
with advertising deals that have been very tempting. My commitment to
providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment prevailed,
however! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing
exponentially every year, with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to
mention the ever increasing Virus attacks.
My goal with the Matronics List Service is to provide all members
with a commercial-free, virus-free, and high-performance system
with which the may share information, ideas, and camaraderie.
The best news this year is that, with the gracious help of Andy Gold and
The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I have been able
to significantly expand the lineup of fantastic Gift offers to support the
List Fund Raiser! In all, there are eight awesome free gifts this year
ranging from List Archive CD's to Flight Computers with qualifying
Contribution levels. Those great Jeppesen Flight Bags that were so popular
last year are even back! A special thanks goes out to Andy Gold again this
year for his very kind and generous support of the Lists. Thanks Andy, for
these great incentives!!
Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List
Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the
process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the
generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from
a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made
possible through YOUR thoughtful and generous support!
To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with
a personal check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find
additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as information
on the various methods of payment. Contributions in the $20, $30, $50,
$75, and $100 range are common. The Contribution web page is kind of long
this year with the details of each of the gifts, so please scroll all the
way down!
SSL Secure Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this year! Your
Contributions truly make it all possible!!
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com, rv9-list(at)matronics.com,
rv10-list(at)matronics.com, rvcanada-list(at)matronics.com,
rveurope-list(at)matronics.com
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | RVx-List vs. RV-List Subscriptions |
Dear RV-x Listers,
I was chatting with a nice fellow on the new Matronics RV6-List Chatroom
yesterday ( http://www.matronics.com/chat ), and he ask me an interesting
question. Basically, what he was saying was that he had been subscribed to
the RV-List back a few years ago and he used to get a lot of messages each
day. Recently, he resubscribed and now only gets a few messages. "What
Happened?", he wanted to know...
Long story short, originally he had subscribed to the non-model specific
List, the "RV-List(at)matronics.com". When he resubscribed, he just
subscribed to the model-specific List, the "RV6-List(at)matronics.com". Since
the model-specific Lists receive far less traffic than the main RV-List,
the mystery of his reduced content was solved. He's now subscribed to the
Main RV-List in addition to the RV6-List and is happily receiving a few
more messages each day.
I realize that many of you have made a conscious decision to only subscribe
to one or more of the model-specific Lists. This conversation did make me
wonder, though, just how many people have subscribed to the model-specific
Lists, not knowing that a lot of the RV dialog is really on the main
RV-List...?
Anyway, I thought I'd post a little message today and spread the word. I
did some number crunching on the RVx-Lists vs. RV-List subscriptions and
found that there are 819 unique people subscribed to one or more
model-specific RVx-Lists but that are NOT subscribed to the general
RV-List! That's a lot of people missing out on a main flow of RV information.
I've setup a little web page where you can check to see if you're currently
subscribed to the RV-List and easily subscribe if you're not!
http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/Am-I-Subscribed.html
The RV-List is where all the action is! Subscribe today! :-)
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser - Wow, Have You Seen The Free Gifts? |
Dear Listers,
The List Fund Raiser is going well so far this year and I wanted to say
"Thank You" to everyone that has made a Contribution already this year!
Though the generous support of Andy Gold and the Builders Bookstore (
http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I'm able to offer some truly awesome gifts
with qualifying Contributions this year. There's quite a line up and a
rather diverse set of options - certainly something for every taste and
personality. Here's a list of this year's fine options:
* List Archive CD
* Aircraft Builder's Log
* Pilot Flashlight System
* Pro Pilot Logbook
* FAR/AIM on CD
* Jeppesen Flight Bag
* Aviation History Book
* Techstar Flight Computer
Please support your Email List Community AND pick up a really slick Gift at
the same time! The SSL Secure Contribution web site can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Once again, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously supported
the continued operation and upgrade of the Lists Services here on the
Matronics servers!!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Below are some of the nice things people have been saying about the Lists
in that little message box on the Contribution form! Thank you to everyone
that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great
feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!!
If you haven't yet shown your support for these Lists, won't you take a
moment and make your Contribution today? The Matronics Lists are always
Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, and High-performance and its your
direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that enables all of these
valuable services you've come to expect.
Thank you for your Contribution!!
SSL Secure Web Site - http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
EMail List Administrator
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=================== What Listers Are Saying ====================
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You provide a service to us kit builders that cannot be measured.
-Clifford M.
...great service to the aviation community.
-Curt R.
Thanks for being there - your List has really been of help.
-Thomas R.
Your lists have been most helpful to my RV-9A project.
-Dean V.
...has been a great help to me.
-Jim N.
..."must-have" for RV builders and pilots.
-Douglas W.
I find something every day on the List that helps me in my project.
-Ron P.
...very valuable!
-Patrick L.
Don't know that I could have persevered and succeeded without the List.
-Curt R.
...service continues to be awesome and is one of the most helpful resources
for homebuilding that I have ever found.
-Jim H.
The information and hours of entertainment many of us derive from the Lists
is priceless.
-Chris R.
I learn a lot about my [aircraft] through the Lists...
- Lee P.
Great source of education and entertainment. Love it!!!
-Lar B.
Great List & very well organized.
-Peter D.
I couldn't build my [airplane] without this List.
-William G.
The List is an important part of my daily routine.
-Roger H.
...incredible resource.
-Ron P.
Excellent facility.
-David M.
...unmatched service to all builders and flyers.
-Ralph C.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year? |
Dear Listers,
I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and
also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here
provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is
outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of
messages on line for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where
also building RVs. It has grown into over 40 different aviation-related
Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 10,000,000 hits
each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards well over
90,000,000 (yes, that 90 MILLION) email messages to subscribers each
year! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
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The SSL Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying III |
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| From: | "Frank Friedman" <frankzip(at)charter.net> |
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| Subject: | RV8 Tail Kit for sale |
Changed projects so RV 8 tail kit for sale. Very little work done. This is a pre
punched kit, however it was before the 4130 parts were powder coated. All 4130
parts were primered.
Included are preview plans, electric trim kit, 18 years of the RVaitor, Avery temporary
assembly pins, 2 construction videos. Vertical stabilizer tip is for
a rear position light. Cost for all of this now would be about $1775.
Buy it now for $1200. plus shipping before I put it on ebay. Bonus, free delivery
within 100 miles of Oshkosh.
Yep guys,I'm in OSH, 8-10 minutes to the airport, the downside, Jan temps, 17 days
below normal and 4-5 inches of snow last night.
Frank at 920-237-3536 or frankzip(at)charter.net
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
DNA: not not archive
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ] Virus Laden Spam Purports To Be From Matronics... |
Dear Listers,
First let me say that I normally don't condone the sharing of warnings
about Internet viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. I don't want to
start a storm of discussion regarding computer viruses on the Lists, so
please just note the information below and refrain from commenting to
the List. The circumstances I describe below are disturbing enough
that I felt an explanation is necessary. That being said...
There is a new email-bourne virus running rampant on the Internet that
is cleverly disguising itself as legitimate email warning of such
things as:
"your email account is disabled because of unauthorized access"
"Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail
content) outgoing from your e-mail account"
"Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In
order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions."
"Our main mailing server will be temporary unavailable for next two
days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to
configure our free auto-forwarding service."
All of these messages include an attachment that you are instructed to
click upon to "Get more information", "clean the virus from your
system", or "check your system for infections".
These enclosures all contain a virus that will infect your system and
propagate even more copies of the original message.
The disturbing part of these messages is that they appear to be coming
from very legitimate addresses and have very legitimate, convincing
dialog. For example, I have received a number of them today that
appear to be from "support(at)matronics.com", "management(at)matronics.com",
"administration(at)matronics.com", and "staff(at)matronics.com".
The text of the messages seems believable enough, and given the forged
source address, seem even more legitimate.
Please be assured that no one at Matronics.com will be sending you
these kinds of messages. If you receive one, it is a spam/virus that
has forged headers and was sent to you from someone other than
Matronics. Delete the message and the attachment promptly. Invest in
a copy of Norton Antivirus and keep the definitions up dated on a daily
basis.
Again, I want to stress that I *DO NOT* want a big discussion of
viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. Please do not reply to this
email with any comments. You may write to me directly at
dralle(at)matronics.com if you wish, but do not include the List.
Since many of these appear to come from matronics.com, I wanted to
assure everyone that Matronics wasn't the real source of these messages.
Let's be careful out there and keep those virus definitions up to date!
Today alone, the Matronics spam filter and virus blocking appliance
has filtered out 11,550 spam messages and 375 viruses! That's just in
an 18 hour period!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
| Subject: | Langley Fly-in 2004 |
The Langley Aero Club and Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing are holding the
third annual Langley Fly-in on Saturday, June 12, 2004 at Langley airport
(CYNJ). The format will be the same as last year, but this year, in addition
to being the annual fly-in for Western Canada Wing, it will also be a general
fly-in for all types of homebuilts.
Keep an eye on the Fly-in web page for details,
http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ
Perhaps you're already the proud owner of a flying RV. Lucky you! Then you'll
best homebuilt, and to show off your beautiful airplane. There's also a
Furthest award, for the homebuilt that flies the furthest distance to get
there. There will be plenty of space on the field for parking. You can come
for the day, camp on the field, or stay in one of the hotels near the airport.
There are links to the local Travelodge on the web page.
Currently building an RV, or thinking about it? Then you'll enjoy our
seminars. The seminar schedule isn't set yet, but there will definitely be a
session on RVs, featuring Eustace Bowhay and a representative from Van's
Aircraft. Keep an eye on the web site for more details.
If you just like to look at RVs, this is probably going to be your best chance
inside Canada this year. There are over 50 RVs registered in B.C., and we hope
to have a sizable portion of them at Langley.
Naturally, we're encouraging anyone who wants to fly in, regardless of what
type of airplane they have. If you plan to attend, and especially if you plan
to fly in, please take the time to sign the Guest Book on the Fly-in web page.
http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/guestbook/lac_sign.html
That will help us plan facilities such as food and washrooms.
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
tedd(at)vansairforce.org
www.vansairforce.org
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| From: | BTomm <fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net> |
| Subject: | Langley Fly-in 2004 |
Tedd,
Im planning to come again this year. Looking forward to it.
Bevan
On Friday, April 02, 2004 11:37 AM, Tedd McHenry [SMTP:tedd(at)vansairforce.org] wrote:
>
> The Langley Aero Club and Van's Air Force Western Canada Wing are holding the
> third annual Langley Fly-in on Saturday, June 12, 2004 at Langley airport
> (CYNJ). The format will be the same as last year, but this year, in addition
> to being the annual fly-in for Western Canada Wing, it will also be a general
> fly-in for all types of homebuilts.
>
> Keep an eye on the Fly-in web page for details,
>
> http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ
>
> Perhaps you're already the proud owner of a flying RV. Lucky you! Then you'll
> best homebuilt, and to show off your beautiful airplane. There's also a
> Furthest award, for the homebuilt that flies the furthest distance to get
> there. There will be plenty of space on the field for parking. You can come
> for the day, camp on the field, or stay in one of the hotels near the airport.
> There are links to the local Travelodge on the web page.
>
> Currently building an RV, or thinking about it? Then you'll enjoy our
> seminars. The seminar schedule isn't set yet, but there will definitely be a
> session on RVs, featuring Eustace Bowhay and a representative from Van's
> Aircraft. Keep an eye on the web site for more details.
>
> If you just like to look at RVs, this is probably going to be your best chance
> inside Canada this year. There are over 50 RVs registered in B.C., and we hope
> to have a sizable portion of them at Langley.
>
> Naturally, we're encouraging anyone who wants to fly in, regardless of what
> type of airplane they have. If you plan to attend, and especially if you plan
> to fly in, please take the time to sign the Guest Book on the Fly-in web page.
>
> http://www.vansairforce.org/CYNJ/guestbook/lac_sign.html
>
> That will help us plan facilities such as food and washrooms.
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Van's Air Force
> Western Canada Wing
> tedd(at)vansairforce.org
> www.vansairforce.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Land Shorter <landshorter2(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | New product announcement: affordable VG's |
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Hey folks,
I double checked and Matt Dralle's earlier post says it's OK to post about new
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1-877-272-1414 (toll free)
===
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| From: | gerald conrad <gwcgwc(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | Wanted-RV-6 Empennage Kit |
I require a RV-6 Empennage kit. Must be un-assembled or minimum assembled. Prefer
in Canada. Contact off line.
Gerry Conrad
Montreal, Que
RV-6A...50 hrs
RV-6 kit.....damaged empennage
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| From: | gerald conrad <gwcgwc(at)videotron.ca> |
| Subject: | RV-6 Kit For Sale |
RV-6 Kit For Sale. Empennage 5% done, Wings 20%, Fuselage & Finishing 0%. Slow
build. My wife wants it out of the garage. $12,000. or $15,600 Canadian. Reply
off line.
Gerry Conrad
Montreal
RV-6A ...50 hrs
RV-6 kit
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Lister Comments - Please Support The Lists |
Dear Listers,
Wow! People have been including some very nice comments along with their
Contributions lately! I've included another set of below and will send
another set in a couple of days.
Guys, I really appreciate your kind words and support. In the last few
days, the contributions have really started to come in and its looking like
support this year may slightly surpass last year's. There's still a few
days left in this year's Fund Raiser, so if you've been waiting until the
last minute to make your Contribution, now's the time!
Make Your Contribution Today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
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Email List Administrator
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925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) |
| Subject: | [PLEASE READ NOW] - Addressing Upgrade At Matronics TONIGHT! |
Dear Listers,
Service Provider to upgrade to a larger IP subnet. I will be
re-addressing all of the machines on the network including the
Matronics Web Server and Matronics Email Server at that time. Name
Service will be updated at that time as well and most things should
work again pretty quick. There may be some bounced email for a few hours
or even a day or so as the new name-to-ip-address resolutions propagate
into the depths of the Internet.
If you have problems posting a message to one of the Lists or get a
bounced message back, please wait a couple of hours and try sending it
again. Generally, access to the web site should work within 1-hour of
Hopefully the transition will go smoothly and you'll hardly even
notice! :-)
Thanks for your patience!
Matt Dralle
List Administrator
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| From: | "Jim Jewell" <jjewell(at)telus.net> |
Hello RV Canada listers,
I am near finished my RV6-EH {[;-) (it turns out that the light at the end
of the tunnel is not a freight train after all) I somehow dropped the
RVCanada-list during my last computer upgrade. There was not a lot of
traffic and I do get a lot of mail daily from The RV-list and the Matronics
list. Some if not all RVCanada mail seems to show up on the RV- list.
I have re-enlisted to the RVCanada-list just now. If the number of emails
increases I'll soon see if I have missed many emails.
Jim in Kelowna B.C.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Dewhirst" <rv8(at)dewhirst.ca>
Subject: RE: RVCanada-List: usage
>
> Wayne, Kevin - Ditto for me re. the posts. I have completed the empenage
> on
> my 8, the wing kit is on a truck and I have been collecting firewall
> forward
> parts.
>
> Ian Dewhirst
> Ottawa Ontario
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne
> To: rvcanada-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RVCanada-List: usage
>
>
> Kevin
>
> I've been subscribed for quite sometime and haven't seen many (any) posts.
> I've just finished setting up my garage to start my RV 7A empenage, my
> wings
> are to be here in March.
>
> Wayne Millson
> Cobourg Ontario.
>
>
>
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| From: | "Ian Dewhirst" <rv8(at)dewhirst.ca> |
Hi Kevin, I know that there are 6 other RV-8 flying or being built within a
50 mile radius of Ottawa. I did not have any troubles with the empennage,
shipping was about $70, FedEx charged me another $45 to cover brokerage and
I paid GST on the total. I expect the wing kit will be considerably more...
I don't see any problems with building in Canada, the MDRA inspections are
too expensive but that's aviation. -- Ian
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Kevin
Williams
Subject: RE: RVCanada-List: usage
Great to hear there is at least one RV8 builder up here in Canada. Im
curious what sort of issues you have run into in getting the kits across the
boarder.
Kevin
Yellowknife, NT, Canada
RV-8 Wanna Be Builder
From: "Ian Dewhirst" <rv8(at)dewhirst.ca>
Subject: RE: RVCanada-List: usage
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 18:34:43 -0500
Wayne, Kevin - Ditto for me re. the posts. I have completed the empenage on
my 8, the wing kit is on a truck and I have been collecting firewall forward
parts.
Ian Dewhirst
Ottawa Ontario
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne
Subject: RVCanada-List: usage
Kevin
I've been subscribed for quite sometime and haven't seen many (any) posts.
I've just finished setting up my garage to start my RV 7A empenage, my wings
are to be here in March.
Wayne Millson
Cobourg Ontario.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
>
> Great to hear there is at least one RV8 builder up here in Canada. Im
> curious what sort of issues you have run into in getting the kits across the
> boarder.
Kevin:
There are 18 RV-8/8A builders from Canada registered on the Western Canada Wing
membership list, three with completed airplanes. Those are all from western
Canada and the north, except for two from Ontario. Nobody close to you,
though!
I live very close to the border, so I have my kits delivered to a freight
forwarding service on the other side, pick them up, and take them across
myself. That's easy, but obviously not a good option for you where you are!
Tedd
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Lack of Usage of Site |
>
> You are right, unfortunately. Myself like others, watch RV9, RV main sites,
as well as RV9A(at)yahoogroups.com as that is where the action is. I guess not enough
completed RVs in Canada yet.
Randy:
If you search under "Van's" on the TC database you'll get 192 hits (as of
today). Per capita, that's probably a bit less than in the U.S., but not a
lot.
Tedd
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| From: | "Jim Jewell" <jjewell(at)telus.net> |
| Subject: | RV6-a upper gear leg intersection Fairings attachment |
My RV6-A is on the wheels in my garage. Bob's http://www.fairings-etc.com
wheel pant intersection fairings are fitted and laminated onto the Van's
wheel pants. Bob's parts dropped in place and it took me quite a lot of
effort to fit, laminate and finish to match the quality of his
craftsmanship. Thanks Bob!
Now I am looking for some ideas and hopefully some pictures as to attachment
of the upper leg intersection fairing to the fuselage.
I am looking for suggestions re- attachment points, hardware suggestions:
Rivnuts Platenuts, Tinnermans, Springs and mounting point locations etc.
I have been mulling this over for a while and have yet to settle them in
place.
If you have pictures I'd sure like to see them.
Thanks in advance,
Jim in Kelowna
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| From: | GMC <gmcnutt(at)shaw.ca> attachment |
| Subject: | RV6-a upper gear leg intersection Fairings |
attachment
Hi Jim
I used plate nuts, no helper so pop riveted to inside of fuselage floor.
Sorry no pictures.
I also put the end of the rubber wing root fairing trim strip under the gear
leg fairing so it would not work loose.
Hope to see you flying to the Langley RV fly-in - June.
George in Langley
--------------------------
Now I am looking for some ideas and hopefully some pictures as to attachment
of the upper leg intersection fairing to the fuselage.
I am looking for suggestions re- attachment points, hardware suggestions:
Rivnuts Platenuts, Tinnermans, Springs and mounting point locations etc.
I have been mulling this over for a while and have yet to settle them in
place.
If you have pictures I'd sure like to see them.
Thanks in advance,
Jim in Kelowna
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade... |
Dear Listers,
I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This includes
some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable processors -
as well as a complete operating system upgrade from scratch. I hope to
have both the old system and the new system running at the same time to
minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but a
few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up
on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then please
just try posting it again.
Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
to it as often as you like:
http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
possible!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete! |
Dear Listers,
The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at
this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been
resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest
processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update.
If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email
Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at
dralle(at)matronics.com or if that fails try dralle(at)speakeasy.net.
Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a
major system upgrade!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
At 12:37 PM 4/16/2005 Saturday, Matt Dralle wrote:
>Dear Listers,
>
>I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This
>includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable
>processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from
>scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at
>the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade.
>
>Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but
>a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show
>up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then
>please just try posting it again.
>
>Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux
>7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great
>deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to
>the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems
>will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an
>absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the
>cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them.
>
>I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List
>Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer
>to it as often as you like:
>
> http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/
>
>
>Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at
>Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades
>possible!
>
>Best regards,
>
>Matt Dralle
>Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | "Wayne" <wlm(at)cogeco.ca> |
I'm just getting ready to start riveting my horizontal stabilizer together, and
am unsure how much I need to leave open for the MDRA precover inspection.
I'd like to finish as much as possible.
Can anybody share their wisdom on this?
Also the rest of the empennage parts?
Thanks
Wayne
RV 7A
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| From: | B Tomm <fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net> |
Wayne,
Leave one side unriveted (but completely ready for riveting) for all
enclosed areas (each control surface, stabs, wings etc.). This is what I
was instructed by the MDRA rep. Others have said I only need to leave one
bottom skin off on each wing (as if it was a quick-built kit) but I have
left both off. The fuse is getting ready to have the top skins go on so my
first inpection will need to happen soon. This way one inspection will
cover all areas requiring the pre-cover inspection therefore saving on
cost. I paid for inspection months ago but still have not had it. I guess
I need to call again.
Where are you located?
Bevan
RV7A fuselage interior almost ready for paint.
British Columbia
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne [SMTP:wlm(at)cogeco.ca]
Subject: RVCanada-List: Inspection
I'm just getting ready to start riveting my horizontal stabilizer together,
and am unsure how much I need to leave open for the MDRA precover
inspection.
I'd like to finish as much as possible.
Can anybody share their wisdom on this?
Also the rest of the empennage parts?
Thanks
Wayne
RV 7A
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| From: | "Franz Fux" <franz(at)lastfrontierheli.com> |
I would suggest that you leave on side of the skin open on all the parts to
have access to all the rivets for inspection
Franz
RV7A
Vernon, BC
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne
Subject: RVCanada-List: Inspection
I'm just getting ready to start riveting my horizontal stabilizer together,
and am unsure how much I need to leave open for the MDRA precover
inspection.
I'd like to finish as much as possible.
Can anybody share their wisdom on this?
Also the rest of the empennage parts?
Thanks
Wayne
RV 7A
--
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| From: | "Tom and Marilyn Law" <tlaw(at)klondiker.com> |
Transport Canada did my Inspection With the all the skins riveted on one
side and open on the other side only enough to look inside and see all the
rivets. All went well.
Tom Law, Whitehorse RV6A
> I'm just getting ready to start riveting my horizontal stabilizer
together,
> and am unsure how much I need to leave open for the MDRA precover
> inspection.
> I'd like to finish as much as possible.
> Can anybody share their wisdom on this?
> Also the rest of the empennage parts?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wayne
> RV 7A
>
>
> --
>
> --
>
>
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| From: | "Jim Jewell" <jjewell(at)telus.net> |
| Subject: | Saskatoon visits |
Hello Saskatchewan,
I will be making a number of short term visits (flying commercial) to
Saskatoon over the next several months to visit with my wife who will be in
Saskatoon on a job contract there.
I am currently operating under the impression (misguided or not) that my
RV6-eh will be flight worthy later in the summer. However it is doubtful
that I will be flight worthy by then {[;-).
My wife is considering doing the ground school portion of her flight
training while working in Saskatoon and would appreciate any information in
that regard.
I expect to be seen lurking around the airport when time permits and I would
like to meet any Homebuilders, owners and flyers who live in the general
area.
I am willing to buck or drive some rivets or pitch in with what have you in
return for coffee and conversation if time during visits to Saskatoon
permits.
Jim in Kelowna
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| From: | "Wayne" <wlm(at)cogeco.ca> |
| Subject: | inspection replies |
Thanks to those whe replied.
Looks like I'll need more clecos!
Wayne
RV7A
Cobourg ON
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| From: | Jim Cole <jcole(at)rangroup.com> |
| Subject: | Re: 6/6A Partial Kit |
I am new to this list (and it's probably not for classifieds) but I am
trying to help a good friend of mine who died unexpectedly in March. (34
years old).
I've been cleaning out his shop for his Mom and one of the things we
found was an empennage and wing kit, with completed gold anodized
spars for a 6 or 6A. I've done a little research and believe at current
prices it would be over $7500 Canadian and I think around $5,000
Canadian would be a good deal for someone. It's still in the shipping
boxes and we have the builder certificate and # from Vans. If anyone is
interested or knows someone who might be, the kit is near Barrie,
Ontario and you can reach me at 705-458-9669.
Thanks
Jim Cole
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| From: | pat morency <acwrench(at)yahoo.ca> |
| Subject: | F684 gusset, RV-6 |
To All,
Head scratching time!!!
Trying to mount the F684 gusset on the lower longeron
(large one). If fitted from the outboard side in
between the skin and longeron the WD603 engine mount
interferes with the gusset.
Is the F684 gusset bent or cut in any way b/4
mounting?
DWG#31 detail "E" appears to show the gusset on the
outside going low enough to "take in" the cross brace
and the engine mount WD603.
Any suggestions appreciated!!
Regards,
Patrick in Calgary
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jim Oke <wjoke(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | F684 gusset, RV-6 |
Hi Pat;
Situation with the F-684 is that it is attached to the outboard side of the
vertical angle on the firewall and then falls inside of the wd-603 engine
mount weldment which is sandwiched between the F-684 and the 3/4 x 3/4 x
.125 alum angle that runs from the firewall to the F-604. The forward 4" or
so of the horizontal flange of this angle is removed to allow this to
happen.
In other words, the F-684 does not reach as far as the large 1 x 1 1/4 x
.125 angle. The bottom edge of the F-684 overlaps the inside of the wd-603
by about 3/4" to pick up the 5 AN426AD-4-8 rivets that go through the
fuselage skin, the 3/4x3/4x.125 andle, the wd-603, and the F-684 in that
order. The bend line in the F-684 should roughly match the top (bottom in
jig) of the 3/4" diagonal angle.
As usual a few pictures should help so see attached.
Cheers, Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of pat morency
Subject: RVCanada-List: F684 gusset, RV-6
To All,
Head scratching time!!!
Trying to mount the F684 gusset on the lower longeron
(large one). If fitted from the outboard side in
between the skin and longeron the WD603 engine mount
interferes with the gusset.
Is the F684 gusset bent or cut in any way b/4
mounting?
DWG#31 detail "E" appears to show the gusset on the
outside going low enough to "take in" the cross brace
and the engine mount WD603.
Any suggestions appreciated!!
Regards,
Patrick in Calgary
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| From: | "Jim Jewell" <jjewell(at)telus.net> |
My wife and I will be visiting family in the North Edmonton area this coming
Tuesday through Thursday on our way to Saskatchewan.
I might have some time available for an RV fix.
If there are builders in the area that don't mind a stranger poking around
their shop I sure would like to visit a project or two and meet other fools
such as I that have fallen victim to the RV building compulsion.
Jim in Kelowna
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| From: | "Jeff" <F1Rocket(at)telus.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Edmonton visit |
Hi Jim in Kelowna,
I'm not quite an RV, but your welcome to come. I live in Wetaskiwin, and am
just in the finishing stages of a F1 Rocket.
Please e-mail me off line if you are interested.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Jewell" <jjewell(at)telus.net>
Subject: RVCanada-List: Edmonton visit
>
> My wife and I will be visiting family in the North Edmonton area this
> coming
> Tuesday through Thursday on our way to Saskatchewan.
> I might have some time available for an RV fix.
> If there are builders in the area that don't mind a stranger poking around
> their shop I sure would like to visit a project or two and meet other
> fools
> such as I that have fallen victim to the RV building compulsion.
>
> Jim in Kelowna
>
>
>
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| Subject: | List Digest Truncation Fixed!! |
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| From: | Dan Charrois <danlist(at)syz.com> |
| Subject: | Canadian construction regulations |
Hi everyone. I joined this list a couple of weeks ago and haven't
seen any activity, so I hope there are a few Canadians out there
reading it.
In any case, I've recently joined the ranks of those constructing an
RV-10 (actually, I haven't quite started yet as 'm still waiting for
my tail/empennage kit to arrive - it's at the border waiting to clear
customs). But I'm interested in learning more about the sorts of
construction requirements that are different from those in the US.
For example, I recently learned that parts riveted or attached
together have to be primed on their mating surfaces. And I kind of
learned that by accident - I shudder to think of what would have
happened if I had riveted everything for a preclosure inspection and
then found out - pretty much everything would have had to been
disassembled to prime between the surfaces that are already attached.
Does anyone know of an online (or other) resource for these sorts of
things I should know before really getting going? I couldn't find
these sorts of specific details in the CARs unless I was looking in
the wrong place..
Thanks!
Dan
--
Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| From: | "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve(at)adelphia.net> |
| Subject: | air to air photo |
This is late notice but ed hicks will be in Niagara falls ny this Tuesday
till Friday taking pictures. He's got a wide open schedule, so call me on my
cell if anyone wants to fly over for pics......
Steve d
716.579.5790
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| From: | "Michel" <rv8ter(at)rogers.com> |
| Subject: | Canadian construction regulations |
If that were true many Cessnas would be illegal in this country.
Build it as per Van's recommendations and there will be no major issues to
worry about.
The RAAC manual for homebuilders will be a good guide for the Canadian
regulations to get your project approved.
Priming is always a good idea and to what extent depends on your taste buds
:)
Michel
RV8117 550 hrs
London Ont.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Charrois
Subject: RVCanada-List: Canadian construction regulations
Hi everyone. I joined this list a couple of weeks ago and haven't
seen any activity, so I hope there are a few Canadians out there
reading it.
In any case, I've recently joined the ranks of those constructing an
RV-10 (actually, I haven't quite started yet as 'm still waiting for
my tail/empennage kit to arrive - it's at the border waiting to clear
customs). But I'm interested in learning more about the sorts of
construction requirements that are different from those in the US.
For example, I recently learned that parts riveted or attached
together have to be primed on their mating surfaces. And I kind of
learned that by accident - I shudder to think of what would have
happened if I had riveted everything for a preclosure inspection and
then found out - pretty much everything would have had to been
disassembled to prime between the surfaces that are already attached.
Does anyone know of an online (or other) resource for these sorts of
things I should know before really getting going? I couldn't find
these sorts of specific details in the CARs unless I was looking in
the wrong place..
Thanks!
Dan
--
Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| From: | Tedd McHenry <tedd(at)vansairforce.org> |
| Subject: | Re: Canadian construction regulations |
Dan:
I would recommend getting to know your MD/RA inspector, and speaking informally
with him about his recommendations and any "gotchas" he has observed with
builders of similar aircraft. You HAVE filed your letter with MD/RA, right?
Also, the community of RV builders is invaluable. "Hangar flying" with other
RV builders is not only fun, but is also an invaluable source of information
and tips on how to build your airplane. If you're near any major city in
Canada there are bound to be many RV builders nearby. Even in the smaller
communities you may find a builder not far away, or at least someone you can
talk to by email or phone who'll be happy to share his experience with you.
It's one of the biggest advantages of building an RV.
If you're anywhere west of the Ontario-Manitoba border, contact me off-list and
I can probably put you in touch with a builder not far away, if you're
interested.
Tedd
---
Tedd McHenry
Van's Air Force
Western Canada Wing
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| From: | f1rocket(at)telus.net |
| Subject: | Re: Canadian construction regulations |
Dan:
I think Tedd has hit the nail on the head.
My MD/RA inspector has been just amazing at setting me straight about what is
really needed and what is hearsay.
Most of these guys aren't in it for the money, and if you drive to him and buy
a coffee, they will usually fill your head for as long as you wish. I remember
my first visit with mine (in Alberta). It took me two more trips to try and
remember everything he told me.
Regards,
Jeff (F1 Rocket nearing completion)
Quoting Tedd McHenry :
>
> Dan:
>
> I would recommend getting to know your MD/RA inspector, and speaking
> informally
> with him about his recommendations and any "gotchas" he has observed with
> builders of similar aircraft. You HAVE filed your letter with MD/RA, right?
>
> Also, the community of RV builders is invaluable. "Hangar flying" with
> other
> RV builders is not only fun, but is also an invaluable source of information
> and tips on how to build your airplane. If you're near any major city in
> Canada there are bound to be many RV builders nearby. Even in the smaller
> communities you may find a builder not far away, or at least someone you can
> talk to by email or phone who'll be happy to share his experience with you.
> It's one of the biggest advantages of building an RV.
>
> If you're anywhere west of the Ontario-Manitoba border, contact me off-list
> and
> I can probably put you in touch with a builder not far away, if you're
> interested.
>
> Tedd
>
> ---
>
> Tedd McHenry
> Van's Air Force
> Western Canada Wing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Server Upgrade Today Tuesday 09/06/05 5pm |
PDT
Dear Listers,
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be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics
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http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Dan Charrois <danlist(at)syz.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Canadian construction regulations |
Thanks, everyone for the advice that was given with respect to
Canadian regulations while constructing a kit plane.
Having not yet received my kit yet, I didn't know my kit serial
number and so hadn't yet filed my letter of intent with the MD-RA.
However, a quick call to Van's rectified that and my letter of intent
is now filed, though recently enough that I haven't yet heard back
from them as to who my inspector will be. I agree that the best
source of information will be to contact the inspector directly with
questions such as this, since he (or she) will be the one signing
off. And from the sounds of the comments, it doesn't appear as
though he'd mind too much answering a few simple questions like that.
Also, in talking to the head office of MD-RA, they advised that I get
a copy of AC43.13. Though an FAA publication, apparently it is used
as the "bible" in construction on both sides of the border. Of
course, it doesn't address if there are differences in the Canadian
requirements, but it should at least get me fairly close. I obtained
AC43.13-1B online - hopefully it is relatively current.
And you'll probably all think I've been living on some other planet
or something, but despite all of the research I'd done ahead of time
in deciding to go the kit-built route I hadn't heard of the RAA.
I've heard of the EAA and I'm a member of COPA, but somehow the RAA
slipped by on my radar. I've sent an email to them to inquire about
their manual for homebuilders, so I'll see if I can get a copy of that.
Dan
--
Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| From: | f1rocket(at)telus.net |
| Subject: | Re: Canadian construction regulations |
Dan,
The first thing my inspector asked me for was a copy of the RAA manual and the
AC43.13. Buy the book, you will use it in the shop while building the plane
all the time. Everything from verifying drill sizes to proper safety wire
techniques.
Regards,
Jeff
Quoting Dan Charrois :
>
> Thanks, everyone for the advice that was given with respect to
> Canadian regulations while constructing a kit plane.
>
> Having not yet received my kit yet, I didn't know my kit serial
> number and so hadn't yet filed my letter of intent with the MD-RA.
> However, a quick call to Van's rectified that and my letter of intent
> is now filed, though recently enough that I haven't yet heard back
> from them as to who my inspector will be. I agree that the best
> source of information will be to contact the inspector directly with
> questions such as this, since he (or she) will be the one signing
> off. And from the sounds of the comments, it doesn't appear as
> though he'd mind too much answering a few simple questions like that.
>
> Also, in talking to the head office of MD-RA, they advised that I get
> a copy of AC43.13. Though an FAA publication, apparently it is used
> as the "bible" in construction on both sides of the border. Of
> course, it doesn't address if there are differences in the Canadian
> requirements, but it should at least get me fairly close. I obtained
> AC43.13-1B online - hopefully it is relatively current.
>
> And you'll probably all think I've been living on some other planet
> or something, but despite all of the research I'd done ahead of time
> in deciding to go the kit-built route I hadn't heard of the RAA.
> I've heard of the EAA and I'm a member of COPA, but somehow the RAA
> slipped by on my radar. I've sent an email to them to inquire about
> their manual for homebuilders, so I'll see if I can get a copy of that.
>
> Dan
> --
> Syzygy Research & Technology
> Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
> Phone: 780-961-2213
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Dan Charrois <danlist(at)syz.com> |
| Subject: | Canadian parts supplier |
Hi all. In dealing with all the hassle and expense of ordering
things from the US (exchange, GST, brokerage fees, higher shipping,
etc.), plus in an effort to support Canadians wherever possible, I'm
wondering if there is a Canadian mail order/web supply store that I
don't know about (which wouldn't be hard if there's any at all, since
I don't know of any :-) Though it would be nice, I don't expect
necessarily the selection of a place like Aircraft Spruce, but even
if I could obtain "standard" items like extra rivets, bolts, etc.
more locally, that would be great.
Thanks!
Dan
--
Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| From: | pat morency <acwrench(at)yahoo.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Canadian parts supplier |
Dan,
Try Leavens Brothers in Calgary. You pay a little bit
more because it's in Canada but no hassle with the
import stuff.
Pat in Calgary
--- Dan Charrois wrote:
>
>
> Hi all. In dealing with all the hassle and expense
> of ordering
> things from the US (exchange, GST, brokerage fees,
> higher shipping,
> etc.), plus in an effort to support Canadians
> wherever possible, I'm
> wondering if there is a Canadian mail order/web
> supply store that I
> don't know about (which wouldn't be hard if there's
> any at all, since
> I don't know of any :-) Though it would be nice, I
> don't expect
> necessarily the selection of a place like Aircraft
> Spruce, but even
> if I could obtain "standard" items like extra
> rivets, bolts, etc.
> more locally, that would be great.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dan
> --
> Syzygy Research & Technology
> Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
> Phone: 780-961-2213
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
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| From: | "Tom or Marilyn Law" <tlaw(at)klondiker.com> |
| Subject: | Canadian parts supplier |
Here is where I got quite a few things. http://www.demelaircraft.com/
They are in Penticton, BC.
Tom Law, RV-6A Flying (Just Since Sunday!!)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rvcanada-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Charrois
Subject: RVCanada-List: Canadian parts supplier
Hi all. In dealing with all the hassle and expense of ordering
things from the US (exchange, GST, brokerage fees, higher shipping,
etc.), plus in an effort to support Canadians wherever possible, I'm
wondering if there is a Canadian mail order/web supply store that I
don't know about (which wouldn't be hard if there's any at all, since
I don't know of any :-) Though it would be nice, I don't expect
necessarily the selection of a place like Aircraft Spruce, but even
if I could obtain "standard" items like extra rivets, bolts, etc.
more locally, that would be great.
Thanks!
Dan
--
Syzygy Research & Technology
Box 83, Legal, AB T0G 1L0 Canada
Phone: 780-961-2213
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| From: | Jim Oke <wjoke(at)shaw.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Canadian parts supplier |
Hello to all;
I must put in a strong plug for Goulet Aircraft Supply here in Winnipeg
- they also have a branch office in Edmonton.. They are a smaller family
owned firm and are most supportive of small operators, rec flyers and
homebuilders. They are happy to deal in homebuilder quantities for AN
hardware and carry the Stits product line (and ceconite - not very
useful for RV builders I agree). They have a walk-in counter service
here in Winnipeg which has saved lots of time for me over the years.
Have a look at their web site at http://www.gouletaircraft.com/ for
contact info and an overview of the products they carry.
Their pricing is fair and certainly competes with US suppliers for
smaller items when the $5 Canada Post fee is figured in.
Jim Oke
Wpg., MB
RV-3 C-FIZM
RV-6A C-GKGZ
Dan Charrois wrote:
September 14, 1999 - September 20, 2005
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