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From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle 925-606-1001)
Date: Aug 22, 1999
Subject: Welcome!
Welcome to the Piper-List email list at Matronics! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle 925-606-1001)
Date: Sep 04, 1999
Subject: New Email Lists Added to the Matronics Server!!
Dear Listers, In the spirit of the existing and extremely popular Internet Email Lists currently hosted at Matronics such at the RV-List, Zenith-List, and Kolb-List, I have just added a number of new Lists and cordially invite everyone to have a look at the long list of Forums now available. Email Discussion Lists now include the following categories: aerobatic-list aviation-list beech-list cessna-list ez-list glasair-list homebuilt-list kolb-list lancair-list piper-list rocket-list rv-list sailplane-list seaplane-list ultralight-list warbird-list yak-list zenith-list These Lists all include both a real-time distribution as well as a daily "digest" version. All Lists also include archive files that can be searched using the custom designed high speed web search engine. The archives may also be viewed directly using the custom browsing interface. All of these services are brought to you Free of Charge compliments of Matronics, although voluntary contributions are always graciously accepted using a Secure Web Contribution Web Page. I encourage you to surf over and have a look at the Email List Web sites and subscribe to as many of the available Lists as you wish. There is an extremely handy and easy to use web page now for subscribing and unsubscribing to your favorite Forums. Here are a couple of URLs to check out: http://www.matronics.com/other.html Main Email List Web Site http://www.matronics.com/subscribe List Subscription Form http://www.matronics.com/contribution Secure Contribution Site I look forward to seeing you on the Lists and to our future discussions. If you've ever been subscribed to the RV-List or any of the other Lists at Matronics, you already know the quality and "family" atmosphere that is typified by these Lists. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 12, 1999
Subject: Two MORE Email Lists at Matronics...
Dear Listers, At the request of a couple of members, I have added two more Email Lists to the Servers here at Matronics. These include: avionics-list(at)matronics.com Aircraft Avionics related topics such as Radios, GPSs, VSIs, DMEs, etc. engines-list(at)matronics.com Aircraft Engine related topics such as Lycomings, Auto conversions, etc. As usual, the new lists have full archive searching and browsing capabilities. You may subscribe to the new lists by using the Web-Based subscription form at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 12, 1999
Subject: JPI vs. Matronics Settlement Reached...
Dear Listers, After seven months of negotiations, JP Instruments, Inc. and Matronics have reached a mutually agreeable settlement. As most of you are aware, in February of this year, JP Instruments, Inc. alleged that Matronics' use of the trademark "FuelScan" with its aircraft fuel management system infringed upon JP Instruments, Inc's trademark "Scanner" for engine temperature indicators. JP Instruments, Inc. requested that Matronics discontinue the use of the "FuelScan" mark. After considerable negotiations, we have come to an agreement whereby JP Instruments, Inc. will purchase the FuelScan trademark and, if necessary, assist in paying the cost of Matronics' adoption of a new trademark. Matronics will continue to sell and market its aircraft fuel management system under the FuelScan trademark until a phase-out period of up to one year is completed. This will allow Matronics time to sell out its current stock of units marked with the FuelScan trademark and to develop a new trademark. While negotiations have been a bit trying at times, I would like to say that I am satisfied with the outcome, and feel that JP Instruments, Inc. has treated Matronics and me fairly in this matter. Furthermore, I would encourage you to consider JP Instruments for your aircraft avionics in the future as they manufacture an excellent product line. Finally, I would like to thank everyone from around the world for their support and consideration in this matter. I was quite moved by the support - both financial and in the form of letters and comments - that builders and pilots provided me and my company during this time. I never felt alone during this period, and so very much appreciated the encouragement from thousands of my friends! Thank you so very much! Best regards, Matt Dralle President, Matronics -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 1999
From: Warren Gretz <gretz_aero(at)h2net.net>
list-aviation , list-avionics , list-beech , list-cessna , list-ez , list-glasair , list-homebuilt , list-kolb , list-lancair , list-piper , list-rocket , list-rvcanada , list-seaplane , list-tailwind , list-warbird , list-yak , list-zenith
Subject: Heated Pitot Tubes
Greetings to the List, I just received a new supply of heated pitot tubes. They are the PH502-12CR (this used to be called the AN5812), and the AN5814-1. Both styles of these pitot tubes are 12 volt and only come in a chrome finish. The PH502-12CR has only the dynamic source for the air speed indicator, but the AN5814 has a heated static source as well and it looks good. I sell the PH502-12CR for $135 and the AN5814 is $199. I also sell the mounting bracket kits to hold the pitot to your aircraft. These are also available in the same chrome finish as the pitot tubes to make a beautiful installation. These mouning bracket kits come with all the parts needed for the installation and come with some detailed instructions and photos of the process. This kit will work on either a metal airplane or composite. The price of the mounting bracket kits is $105. All of my prices INCLUDE shipping in the US. I have other products that may be of interest to you. If you would like a set of flyers on my products, provide me with you US Postal Mail address and I will send you a set. Warren Gretz Gretz Aero 3664 East Lake Drive Littleton, CO 80121 303-770-3811 gretz_aero(at)h2net.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Archie" <archie97(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Contribution / Donation
Date: Nov 21, 1999
Items for sale w/ proceeds to help maintain Matronics websites. Offers should be directed to: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Upon receipt of donation amount, items will be shipped. No reasonable offer refused! Unreasonable ones considered! This will be a one-time posting. NEW: Heated Pitot Tube, 24v. "L" shaped. Aero Instruments #5814-2 Flap Motor w/ adjustable stops. 24v. Comm.Aircraft Prods. #D145-00-35-7 USED: Narco Transponder AT5-A Astronautics amplifier servo 53-005-214 mod#P1SA Narco altitude reporter. to 25k' Model# AR500 King KS-505 power supply modulator RCA AVQ55 Weather radar antenna MI 591000 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 1999
From: Donald Knight <highfly(at)JPS.NET>
Subject: Re: Contribution / Donation
How much do you want for the Narco 50 A transponder?? Does it work?? How long have you had it?? Where is it located?? Thanks, Don Archie wrote: > > Items for sale w/ proceeds to help maintain Matronics websites. > Offers should be directed to: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > Upon receipt of donation amount, items will be shipped. > No reasonable offer refused! > Unreasonable ones considered! > This will be a one-time posting. > > NEW: > Heated Pitot Tube, 24v. "L" shaped. > Aero Instruments #5814-2 > > Flap Motor w/ adjustable stops. 24v. > Comm.Aircraft Prods. #D145-00-35-7 > USED: > Narco Transponder AT5-A > Astronautics amplifier servo 53-005-214 mod#P1SA > Narco altitude reporter. to 25k' Model# AR500 > King KS-505 power supply modulator > RCA AVQ55 Weather radar antenna MI 591000 > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 23, 1999
Subject: [Please Read] List Fund Raiser Continues; LOC #1 December
1st! Greetings Listers! Don't forget the 1999 List Fund Raiser is still in progress and there is still plenty of time to make a Contribution and assure yourself a place on on the first List Of Contributors (LOC)! I will post the first LOC on December 1st and it will detail everyone that has generously made a Contribution so far this year!! It costs a great deal to maintain the Email and Web server systems and high-speed Internet connection that provide the Email List services found here. I won't even mention the many, many hours I spend each week running the Lists, doing backups, handling subscription requests, and creating new email and web features and services such as the Archive Search Engine, and Archive Browser... Whoops; I think I just did! :-) This year's Fund Raiser started out pretty slow and I was starting to think that no one appreciated me anymore... ;-) But, in the last week or so things have really started to pick up! So if you haven't made a Contribution yet this year, why not join your email List friends and make a contribution today to support the continued operation of these Lists! There are two easy methods for making your Contribution: * Make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard, surf over to: http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html * Make a Contribution by check, send US Mail to: Matronics c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 I would like to sincerely thank everyone who has already made a Contribution so far this year! I greatly appreciate your generosity and support and want you to know that these Lists have been made possible directly by *YOU*! Thank you! Matt Dralle Your Email List Administrator -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Dec 02, 1999
Subject: 1999 List of Contributors #1 and a Special Thank You Message!!
Dear Listers, I would like to personally thank each and everyone that has contributed this year to 1999 List Fund Raiser! As you can see from the list of names below, there were many, many generous people from the Lists this time around and I want everyone to know just how much your support has meant to me. The list of members below includes those that have contributed during this year's List Fund Raiser as well as those that have contributed throughout the year and also those that made a donation to my Legal Defense Fund earlier in the year that was sponsored my our own Bob Nuckolls of Aero Electric. I want everyone to know just how much it means to me to receive the type of financial support for these Lists that I have this year. As the Lists have grown so much over the last few years, so have the equipment costs as well as the monthly costs such as the Internet connectivity. Your generosity during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year, truly makes the continued operation, and more importantly, the continued upgrade and improvement of these aviation-related services directly possible. That is the bottom line. Please accept my most sincere appreciation of the amazing and, at times, overwhelming generosity of so many of you wonderful people! Thank you!! For those of you that didn't quite get your contribution in on time for this first List of Contributors - be it by check or by credit card - I will be posting a followup List of Contributors #2 for 1999 in a few weeks to make sure that I properly acknowledge each and everyone of the generous List members. One last time, the addresses to make a contribution are: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or Matt Dralle c/o Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Finally, thank you all so much for your support this year both in terms of the financial contribution but also in the form of the letters and moral support during what can only be categorized as a very stressful and unsettling time. And I think you know what I'm referring to... Your support and encouragement meant more to me than you'll ever know. I felt as if I had 2500 friends all behind me, and that's a *powerful* force! Well done one and all! Thank you! Best regards for the upcoming year. Your Email List Administrator, Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder #1763 =================== 1999 List of Contributors #1 ==================== Abell, John Acker, Rob Adams, Bob Adamson, Larry Ahamer, Karl Albachten, Rudy III Alcazar, Jesus Allen, Brent Allison, Steven Ammeter, John Amundsen, Blair Anderson, Edward Armstrong, Robert Arnold, James Aronson, David Ashford, James Ashton, Kent Atkinson, Harold Baggett, Robert Baker, Gary Baker, Ray Baldwin, James Barlow, Melvin Barnes, Thomas Barnes, Tom Barnhart, Dave Barrenechea, Godo Battles, Brenton BB Diversified Services, LTD Bechtel, Amos Bell, Bruce Belted Air Power LTD. Benhan, Dallas Bennett, Peter Besing, Paul Bieber, Mike Bilodeau, Paul Bird, Carroll Blanton, Stan Bleier, Roger Blomgren, Jack Blum, Ronald Boadright, Kyle Boardman, Don III Boatright, Kyle Boatright, Robert Bodie, Pete Bonesteel, Wayne Booze, Gregory Borne, Charles Bourgeois, Rion Bourne, Larry Bovan Pe, Vaso Bowen, Larry Bowen, Miles Bower, Bob Bowhay, Eustace Bowman, Brian R Boyd, Rodney Branscomb, Warren Bray, Garrett Brian Lloyd Brick, John Bridgham, David Brogley, Mike Brooks, Chris Brooks, John Brott, Marvin Brown, Kent Brown, Scott Buckwalter, David - Avionics Systems Burlingame, Ralph Burnham, Dave Calhoun, Ronald Calvert, Jerry Cantrell, Ken Capen, Ralph Cardinal, Gregory Carey, Christopher Carr, David Carter, Jerry Carter, Ron Casey, Jeremy Chapple, Glen Chesnut, Bruce Chesnut, William Christensen, Peter Christie, William Churchill, Frank Ciolino, John Clabots, Gerald Clark, Howard Clark, James Clary, Buck Clay, Dennis Cloughley, Bill Cole, Ed Colontonio, Moe Colucci, Anthoney Conaway, James Cook, David Sr. Cooley, John Copeland, Forrest Corder, Michael Corriveau, Grant Cotter, Timothy Cox, Carson Croby, Harry Crosley, Richard Cullen, Chuck Czinkota, Garnet Dall, Richard Daudt, Larry Davidson, Jeff Davis, Christopher Davis, Jared Davis, Steve - The Panel Pilot Davis, William Day, Robert Deffner, David Del Peso, Jose Derrik, Chuck Desmond, Richard Devine, Steven Devlin, John Dewees, Ron Dial, J.R. Dominey, Clifford Dorsey, Bob Downing, Jeff Dubroc, Tommy Dudley, Richard Duffy, Russell Duncan, John Dunlap, E.T. Dziewiontkoski, Bob Eagleston, Ron Eagleston, Ronald Eastburn, James Elder, William Elhai, Irv Emrath, Marty Ensing, Dale Ervin, Thomas Erwin, Chip - Czech Aircraft Works Evans, Monte Exstrom, Daniel Faile, David Farrar, Jeffrey Farris, Paul Fetzer, George Fiedler, Mike Filucci, Michael - Red Dragon Aviaion Finch, K Flaherty, Edward Floyd, Joseph Ford, David Forrest, Gerald Forsting, Robert Fortner, Earl Four Star Products Frank, Dan Franz, Carl Frazier, Vince Frederick, Mark French, Edwin Friedman, Frank Froehlich, Carl Fromm, John Fry, John Funk, Edwin Jr. Funnell, Augustus George, William Gilbert, Mark Giusti, Roberto Glaser, Arthur Glass, Roy Glover, Ken Gold, Andy - Builder's Book Store Goldberg, Mark Good, Chris Gooding, Lawrence Goolsby, Jim Gott, Shelby Goudreault, Jacques Graham, James Jr. Grant, Jordan Griffin, Bill Griffin, Randy Groom, Larry Guillosso, Alain Hale, Michael Hales, Sherman Hall, Bob Hall, Thomas Hamer, Steven Hamilton, Thom Hamilton, William Hand, Chris Hansen, Ronald Hargis, Merle Harmon, John Harper, Malcom Harrill, Roy Harris, John Hart, Daniel Harvey, Doug Hassall, J.C. Hastedt, Margaret Hatch, Fletcher III Hatcher, Clive Hatfield, Cecil Hays, Wes Henderson, George Henderson, Randall Heritch, Ian Herndon, Richard Herren, Bill Hevern, Jerry Hiatt, Mark Hiers, Craig Hinch, Christopher Hine, Joe Hinkley, Curtis Hinrichsen, James Hodge, Jack Hodgson, Bob Hodson, Frank Hoffman, Carl Holcombe, Richard Horton, Kevin Hoshowski, Ken Hrycauk, Dave Hughes, Robert Hulen, Fred Hundley, Richard Hurd, James Hurlbut, Steve Hutcheson, Ken Ihlenburg, Fred Ingram, Jim Irace, Bill Irwin, Eric Isler, Jerry Ivers, James James, Larry Janes, Bob Janicki, Steven Japundza, Bob Jeens, Ken Johannsson, Johann Johnson, Jackie Johnson, Stephen Jones, Bryan Jones, Rob Jones, Russ Jonker, Bill Jordan, Thomas Jory, Rick Kampthorne, Hal Kayner, Dennis Keithley, Rick King, Da Ve Kirby, Dennis Kirby, Graham Kirtland, Charles Kitz, John Knezacek, Dan Knievel, Gerald Knoll, Bruce Kosta, Michael Kowalski, Ed Krueger, Dan Krueger, Scott Kuss, Charlie Laczko, Frank Sr. Lamb, Richard Lane, Kevin Lassen, Finn Laurence, Peter Laverty, Mike Lawson, John Leaf, Dave Lee, John Lee, Ric LeGare, Garry Leggette, Len Leonard, William Lerohl, Gaylen Lervold, Randy Lewis, Terry Lewis, Tim Ligon, Howard Lind, Laird Linebaugh, Jeffrey Loeber, Wayne Ludeman, Bruce Lutes, Rick Mac Donald, Lawrence MacKay, Alex Malczynski, Francis Mandell, Tom Marino, Anthony Marion, Chris Markert, Michael Marshall, Robert Martin, Tom Maxson, Phil Mazatuad, Mme Hyun Sook McElhoe, Bruce McFarlane, Lloyd McGee, Michael McHarry, Joe McHenry, Tedd McKibben, Gerald McNamara, Don Melder, Frank Melia, Tom Metzger, Stephen Meyers, John Miller, Jim & Dondi - Aircraft Technical Support Mitchell, Duane Moen, Craig Mojzisik, Allan Molzen, Jason Mondy, Malia Moore, Thomas Moore, Warren Morelli, Bill Morelli, William Morris, Daniel III Morrison, Mark Morrow, Dan Moulin, Roger Munn, Mike Murphy, Ray Jr. Neal, Danny Nellis, Michael Nelson, James Nelson, Jim Newell, Alan Nguyen, Thomas Nice, James Nicely, Vincent Norris, Rob Nowakowski, Donald Noyer, Robert Nuckolls, Robert Olendorf, Scott Olson, Larry Olson, Tom Orear, Jeffrey Owens, Laird Palinkas, Gary Pardue, Larry Paulson, Craig Peck, Bill & Kathy Peer, Michael - Jem Aviation Peryk, Dennis Peternel, Stanley Petersen, Eric Petersen, Paul Peterson, Alex Pflanzer, Randy Phillips, Mark Pickrell, Jim Pike, Richard Pinneo, George Pittenger, Dick Plathey, Claude Point, Jeff Polstra, Philip Porter, Richard Porter, Robert Potter, Mark Pretzsch, Robert Ragsdale, Bill Randolph, George Ransom, Ben Rathbun, Richard Reeck, Jay Reed, Derek Reed, Frank Reisdorfer, Mark Reynolds, Richard Richardson, Ray - Powersport Aviation Inc. Riedlinger, Paul Riley, Stuart Roach, Brian Rodgers, Brian Rosales, Paul Rowbotham, Charles Rowles, Les Rozendaal, Doug Rutherford, Ted Sa, Carlos Sager, Jim Sailer, Martin SanClemente, Andrew Sapp, Doug Sargent, Tom Sax, Samuel Schemmel, Grant Schippers, John Schmitt, Clayton Schneeflock, Robert Schrimmer, Mark Schwarz, Guillermo Selby, Jim - JKL Aviation Sales Seward, Douglas Shackleford, Howard Shafer, Jim Shank, Bill Sheets, Douglas Shenk, Doug Shepherd, Dallas Shettel, Maurice Shipley, Walter Sigmon, Harvey Silverstein, Chuck Sipp, Dick Slaughter, Mike Small, Thomas Smith, Clayton Smith, Edmund Smith, Philip Smith, Shelby Smithey, Lloyd Snyder, David Solecki, John Sparks, Timothy Stafford, David Staub, Skip Steer, Bill Stobbe, Bruce Stoffers, Larry Stone, James Strandjord, Eric Swaney, Mark Tauch, Eric Tauchen, Bryan Taylor, Tod Team Rocket Thayer, George Therrien, Michel Thistelthwaite, Geoffrey Thoman, Daniel Thomas, Lee Thomas, Tim Thompson, Michael Todd, John Tompkins, Jeff Tower, John True, George Tucker, Harold Tuton, Beauford Tyrrel, Charles Upshur, Bill Uribe, Guillermo Uribe, Gullermo Utterback, Thomas Van Der Sanden, Gert Vandervort, Ronald VanGrunsven, Stanley Varnes, William Volum, Peter Von Ruden, Dennis VonLindern, Paul Vosberg, Roy Waligroski, Gregg Walker, Tommy Walrath, Howard Ward, Ed Warren, John Washburn, Oliver Watson, Dennis Watson, Terrence Watson, William Webb, Randol Weber, Ed Weber, Edward Weller, Michael Wendel, Jim Wentzell, David Werner, Russ Werner, Russell Westridge, David Whelan, Thomas Whiler, Douglas Whitehead, Arthur Wiesel, Dan Wigney, John Williams, Jimmy Williams, Keith Williams, Lawrence Willig, Louis Wills, Mike Wilson, Billy Wittman, James Wood, Denton Wood, John Wood, Mark Worstell, Glen Worthington, Victor Wotring, Dale Wymer, Gerald Young, Charles Young, Rollin Youngblood, Barry Zeidman, Richard Zigaitis, Kestutis Zinkham, Ralph Zwart, Frank -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: StOrMiN3(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 10, 1999
Subject: Re:gas tank
Hello, I have a costom made gas tank 12 gal.... 12'' deep 14'' long...22'' wide will sell for $200 its worth $350 in Aircraft Spruce and Wicks Aircraft the whole tank is there the tank is ready to go. the tank is $200 o.b.o. Sincerly, Erik H Baxter ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 15, 2000
Subject: 1999 List of Contributors #2!
Dear Listers, Below is the final List of Contributors for 1999 as promised. Again, I would like to thank everyone that made a generous contribution in 1999 to support the continued operation of these email Lists. Your support directly makes the quality and quantity of this service possible. Thank you! Matt Dralle EMail List Administrator RV-4 Builder, #1763 - N442RV =================== 1999 List of Contributors #2 ==================== Adamson, Arden Allender, Patrick Anonymous from MN Asher, M.E. Baxter, Rob Bell, Doug Bendure, Ryan Bergh, David Berrie, Robert Blake, J.I. Boucher, Michel Bragg, Medford Briegleb, Ross Brietigam, Charles Broomell, Glenn Brusilow, Michael Chatham, Robert Clary, Buck Coats, Lonnie Cook, Craig - Golf Instruments Co. Cooper, James Cribb, William Jr. Crosby, Harry Dane, Bill Von Dziewiontkoski, Bob Ellenberger, Mike Embree, Roger Faatz, Mitch Fasching, John Gibbons, Robert Glauser, David Gold, Andy -Builder's Bookstore 10% Gregory, Steve Grenier, Raymond Guarino, Michael H., Harold - E.P.M.AV Corp Hale, Brian Hunt, Wallace Johnston, Leroy Jordon, Don Killion, Clay Klingmuller, Dr. L.M. Magaw, David Mains, Ralph Maltby, Michael Martin, Cliff - Martin Metal Fab Mazataud, Hyun Sook McBride, Duncan McDonald, James Mendenhall, Elbie - E.M Aviation Mitchell, Duane Morley, Harold Peck, Phil Pessel, Garnett Rodebush, James Ross, Jonathan Schmidt, John Scully, William Smith, Steven Spence, Stephen Triff, Wes Wagoner, Richard Weaver, Brian Wiegenstein, John Wiley, Robert Wilson, Donald -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 16, 2000
Subject: Confusion Over "List of Contributors"...
Hi Listers, I'm really sorry for the confusion over the most recent posting of the List of Contributors #2. List #2 contained only the contributor names *since* the List #1 was posted. So, if you weren't on List #2, you were likely on List #1. Below are URLs to each of the LOC #x postings. Again, sorry for the confusion. I should have made it more clear in the verbiage. Thanks to everyone, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ List of Contributors #1 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO List of Contributors #2 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO ============================================================================ -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 16, 2000
From: Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Re: (Whoops) Confusion Over "List of Contributors"...
> >Okay, here are the *real* URLs. Sorry... > > >Matt Dralle >Email List Admin. > > >============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ > > > List of Contributors #1 - 1999 > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_ >of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO > > > List of Contributors #2 - 1999 > ------------------------------ > > >http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_ >of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=YES > > >============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 16, 2000
Subject: Re: (No, Really - Here are the URLs) Confusion Over "List
of Contributors"... Geeze, I can't seem to type today. Here are the *real*, *REAL* URLs. Sorry for so many posts... Ack Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ============================= LOC #1 and #2 ================================ List of Contributors #1 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=29144?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO List of Contributors #2 - 1999 ------------------------------ http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=53146?KEYS=list_of_con?LISTNAME=Homebuilt?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=11144111847?SHOWBUTTONS=NO ============================================================================ -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 25, 2000
From: Warren Gretz <gretz_aero(at)h2net.net>
list-aviation , list-avionics , list-beech , list-cessna , list-engines , list-ez , list-glasair , list-lancair , list-piper , list-tailwind , list-seaplane , list-yak , list-zenith
Subject: wire lacing string
Greetings to the List, I have eight spools of the wire lacing string I told many of you about a few weeks ago. If any of you are interested please call, leave a detailed message, or send an e-mail (off List), include your VISA or MASTER CARD number, expiration date of the card, your name, address, and how many rolls you want. FIRST EIGHT THAT CONTACT ME GET THE SPOOLS OF STRING. The spools of string are new and $12 ea. including shipping to a US address. This is a very low price for this product. What is this string anyway you ask! It is string or lacing tape used to tie up wires into bundles. It is the most light weight, and most inexpensive product for doing this job. I have used this type of material extensively and I really like it.. It is extremely fast to tie and use.-- Make a clove hitch around the bundle, and then a square knot to finish. I think you will like it as much as I do. It is self extinguishing polyester #MIL-T-43435B, Type II, Finish C, Size 3. In short this is what is used most often for this job. It is flat braided so it will not cut into or deform as badly as round string. The finish of this material makes knots stay tied. The spools are 500 yd. spools. Granted, a spool is enough to do many airplanes, but your will find many uses for this stuff as I have. Or, sell what you have left over to another builder when your are done. Thanks Warren Gretz Gretz Aero 303-770-3811 gretz_aero(at)h2net.net ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 07, 2000
From: Warren Gretz <gretz_aero(at)h2net.net>
list-aviation , list-avionics , list-beech , list-cessna , list-engines , list-ez , list-glasair , list-homebuilt , list-lancair , list-piper , list-rocket , list-sailplane , list-seaplane , list-tailwind , list-ultralight , list-warbird , list-yak , list-zenith
Subject: [Fwd: RV-List: Aeroelectric.com]
I wanted to pass this on to all of you. Warren Gretz Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 20:24:22 -0700 From: Warren Gretz <gretz_aero(at)h2net.net> Subject: Re: RV-List: Aeroelectric.com --> RV-List message posted by: Warren Gretz I just talked to Bob yesterday and asked him if his internet host/provider has a problem. They do. He said he has not been able to do anything since last Thursday. Today, Monday he was going to seek out a new provider that hopefully will provide continous service. It may be a few more days, but he will be back. Warren Gretz Fran Malczynski wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Fran Malczynski" > > Has any body else had a problem connecting to "Electric Bob's" website? I > printed off a document on it last week and haven't been able to connect > since. > > Fran Malczynski > RV6 (fuse) > Olcott, NY > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Feb 15, 2000
Subject: Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem...
Listers, I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem *ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are *not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be developed. IMPORTANT: If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are: RVCanada-List RVEurope-List Skymaster-List SmithMini-List Sonerai-List Tailwind-List Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a problem. I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution to this problem. Sorry for the inconvenience, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Feb 15, 2000
"Internet Explorer and List Subscription Page Problem..." (Feb 15, 10:19am)
Subject: Re: Web Subscription Page Operation for Internet Explorer
Restored... Dear Listers, I have rewritten the web page and CGI code for processing List Subscription Requests to now be more compatible with command line limitations of Microsoft's Internet Explorer and some very old versions of Netscape. The page seems to be working fine now on whatever browser I try. Please feel free to resume your normal List Subscription habits. The URL is: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- > > >Listers, > >I have just identified a problem between any version of Microsoft's >Internet Explorer and the email List Subscription Form found at >http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Please note that this problem >*ONLY* affects users of Internet Explorer! Netscape users are >*not* affected by the issue. Users of Internet Explorer should >use the Netscape browser for now until a work around can be >developed. > >IMPORTANT: > >If you have tried to subscribe *or* unsubscribe from any of the >following email lists using *Internet Explorer* since the announcement of >the 7 new Email Lists this past weekend, your request was not properly >received and you should resubmit the request using the Netscape >Browser, or wait until a solution for the problem with Internet Explorer >is completed. The Lists affected by the Internet Explorer issue are: > > RVCanada-List > RVEurope-List > Sailplane-List > Seaplane-List > Skymaster-List > SmithMini-List > Sonerai-List > Tailwind-List > Ultralight-List > Warbird-List > Yak-List > Zenith-List > > >Please note that the Netscape Browser *IS NOT* affected by this problem >and all lists can be subscribed to and unsubscribed from without a >problem. > >I will post a message to the Lists when I have come up with a solution >to this problem. > >Sorry for the inconvenience, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Admin. >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 24, 2000
From: Warren Gretz <warrengretz(at)gretzaero.com>
list-aerobatic , list-aviation , list-avionics , list-beech , list-cessna , list-engines , list-ez , list-glasair , list-homebuilt , list-lancair , list-piper , list-rocket , list-rvcanada , list-seaplane , list-tailwind , list-warbird , list-yak , list-zenith
Subject: New Gretz Aero website!
Greetings to all, I am glad to announce that my new webpage is up and running. If you would like to see the aircraft products I offer, and the information I provide on options for equipment installed on aircraft, you may want to check out my website. Be sure to bookmark this site as it will continue to grow. The webpage address is: http://www.gretzaero.com I hope you find it interesting. Warren Gretz Gretz Aero ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 22, 2000
From: Mac Barksdale <skyranger(at)hartcom.net>
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 03/21/00
Hey Gang ! Anyone have Weight and Balance stuff for the "Clipper" PA-16 ? I have s/n 224 Regards, Mac ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 06, 2000
Subject: NOTICE: Matronics Web Server Back Online...
Dear Email Listers, The Matronics Web and FTP server is finally back online! What a nightmare... But at least its finally done and in all honesty the system is running much better. Everything should be working now including the Search Engine, Archive Browser, various List-related pages, Matronics Product Pages, Online Ordering, Real Video server and Contribution pages. Again, I'm sorry it took so long to get things back - way longer than I ever intended. Have fun! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Apr 30, 2000
Subject: PLEASE READ: Network Problems To Matronics...
Dear Listers, My ISP is upgrading their network today 4/30 and tomorrow 5/1. I noticed that Nameservice (DNS) went down last night around 3am which causes all sorts of problems. If your message post was rejected between about 3am 4/30 and 1pm 4/30, please repost as it was rejected do to the DNS being down. I've redirected my systems to a different DNS server in the mean time and things seem to be working right now. In any case, be aware that there may be continuing issues over the next couple of days both posting email messages and accessing the web server. My ISP *promises* that things are going to be so much better after the upgrade! We'll see... ;-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jun 15, 2000
Subject: Skymap IIIC GPS - RS232 Interface to the Notepad...
Hi Listers, For those of you that have had the pleasure of flying with the King (formally Skyforce) Skymap IIIC, you may or may not have noticed there is a nifty "Notepad" feature that allows you to upload roughly 4400 ASCII characters to the IIIC and then page through them. This is handy for something like an "online" check list or directions to the nearest airport with a hamburger joint. In any case, apparently there is a piece of software called Flight Manager Version 3.00 the you can buy for $229 (gulp) that will allow you to upload whatever text you may want to this special Notepad on the IIIC. Realizing that uploading ASCII text to this baby is a pretty trivial task and being a fair programmer, it hit me that I should spend a few hours away from building my plane and come up with a piece of software that might do the same. So here's my question. Does anyone have the technical spec. on how to communicate with the IIIC over the RS232 to manipulate the Notepad data space? There doesn't appear to be a "special" I/O menu for enabling this type of connectivity. I connected up a terminal to the IIIC and banged on it with few typical things, but nothing seemed obvious. Has anyone reverse engineered the Flight Manager code to see what it sends and receives on the RS232 port? Has anyone even used this Flight Manager software? Surfing around on the Bendix/King website, I was really disappointed in the documentation available on the IIIC there. Very pathetic, actually. I couldn't locate any information on the Flight Manager software, nor could I even find any data on available accessories for the IIIC. I did note that I can order a IIIC online direct from Bendix/King and pay full List price. What a deal. I wish they had bagged the online ordering development and focused on something useful - like some documentation... Sheeze. It appears that the old Skyforce website from the UK has been completely decommissioned - at least *their* site used to have a bit of useful information. Anyway, thanks for any information you might have on the aforementioned requirement. Best regards, Matt Dralle RV-4 Builder -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net>
Subject: seneca
Date: Jul 13, 2000
Are there any Seneca owners on line? I havent seen any postings here in along time. I have a Seneca II and have questions occasionally. Dick Navratil ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Greg Bessert" <greg(at)bessert.com>
Subject: seneca
Date: Jul 14, 2000
Yes, but its rather lonely. I've been watching for about 9 months ... your the first to post regarding Senecas. I have a 1981 Seneca III. Any questions, if I can, I'll contribute my two cents. Greg Bessert -----Original Message----- From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard Navratil Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:33 PM Subject: Piper-List: seneca Are there any Seneca owners on line? I havent seen any postings here in along time. I have a Seneca II and have questions occasionally. Dick Navratil ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: seneca
Date: Jul 17, 2000
Thanks for the response. It's nice to know somebody else is out there. I am in the middle of making a few changes to my panel. I just installed a UPS GX-50 and also have a MX-20 on order. It's getting close to time for engines and looking at these new developments coming around. I hope this new engine that burns JP-1 will be available when I'm ready. Dick Navratil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Bessert" <greg(at)bessert.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: RE: Piper-List: seneca > > Yes, but its rather lonely. I've been watching for about 9 months ... your > the first to post regarding Senecas. I have a 1981 Seneca III. Any > questions, if I can, I'll contribute my two cents. > > Greg Bessert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Richard > Navratil > Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:33 PM > To: piper-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Piper-List: seneca > > > > > Are there any Seneca owners on line? > I havent seen any postings here in along time. I have a Seneca II and have > questions occasionally. > Dick Navratil > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: ULflyer86(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 18, 2000
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00
Anyone on here own a Twin Commanchee? Also does anyone own any Ultralights or all you all purists? I'm new here (Less than a month) But am hoping that we might liven up the dicussion a little! :-) ~Eric ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Navratil" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00
Date: Jul 19, 2000
Not an ultra lite. But I have a pietenpol under construction. The Seneca is business and I cant say that it's real "fun" to fly. Dick Navratil ----- Original Message ----- From: <ULflyer86(at)aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:31 PM Subject: Piper-List: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00 > > Anyone on here own a Twin Commanchee? Also does anyone own any Ultralights or > all you all purists? I'm new here (Less than a month) But am hoping that we > might liven up the dicussion a little! :-) > ~Eric > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: jamesbaldwin(at)attglobal.net
Date: Jul 20, 2000
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00
Eric- You're right about there not being too much in the way of posts to this site regarding Twin Comanches. Mine is a 1965, S/N 874. Nice bird with mid time engines. There are a lot of maintenance questions with an A/C of this age and right now I am installing Airwolf external filters, speed spats and a slimmer beacon unit from Knots2U. Just had a Garmin 250XL GPS/Com installed and had the panel cleaned up at the same time. Mine is hangared in Palm Springs, CA, (KPSP). It is "fun" to fly because it is not an easy airplane to land and presents a good challenge to get the optimum performance from it. JBB Richard Navratil wrote: > > Not an ultra lite. But I have a pietenpol under construction. The Seneca > is business and I cant say that it's real "fun" to fly. > Dick Navratil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ULflyer86(at)aol.com> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:31 PM > Subject: Piper-List: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00 > > > > > Anyone on here own a Twin Commanchee? Also does anyone own any Ultralights > or > > all you all purists? I'm new here (Less than a month) But am hoping that > we > > might liven up the dicussion a little! :-) > > ~Eric > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Bob DiMeo - Oracle <dimeob(at)powertel.com.au>
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00
Date: Jul 21, 2000
Hi Guys, I haven't seen any posts regarding Comanche's of any type for a long, long time. I have a '59 Comanche 250. It's got tip tanks and the Knots-2-U kit. It flies like a dream and lands like a pussycat. The Knots-2-U kit helps a lot at low speeds. With the tip tanks (which act as fences) and the aileron gap seals from the Knots-2-U kit, the plane has aileron control all the way through a stall. I get an honest 148 kts cruise out of her. I've flow a Twin Comanche and find it much the same as the single in handling. Piper sure had a wonderful design in the Comanche. Too bad it'll never be produced again. Bob Also building an RV8. > ---------- > From: jamesbaldwin(at)attglobal.net > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 12:52 PM > To: piper-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Re: Piper-List: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00 > > > Eric- > You're right about there not being too much in the way of posts to this > site > regarding Twin Comanches. Mine is a 1965, S/N 874. Nice bird with mid > time > engines. There are a lot of maintenance questions with an A/C of this age > and > right now I am installing Airwolf external filters, speed spats and a > slimmer > beacon unit from Knots2U. Just had a Garmin 250XL GPS/Com installed and > had the > panel cleaned up at the same time. Mine is hangared in Palm Springs, CA, > (KPSP). > It is "fun" to fly because it is not an easy airplane to land and presents > a good > challenge to get the optimum performance from it. > > JBB > > Richard Navratil wrote: > > > > > > Not an ultra lite. But I have a pietenpol under construction. The > Seneca > > is business and I cant say that it's real "fun" to fly. > > Dick Navratil > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <ULflyer86(at)aol.com> > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 8:31 PM > > Subject: Piper-List: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/14/00 > > > > > > > > Anyone on here own a Twin Commanchee? Also does anyone own any > Ultralights > > or > > > all you all purists? I'm new here (Less than a month) But am hoping > that > > we > > > might liven up the dicussion a little! :-) > > > ~Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com>
Subject: Room at OSH available
Date: Jul 23, 2000
Well, my on-again off-again plans for OSH are off again, at least for most of it, so the room I had reserved will be available. This is a room with a queen bed in a nice house with central air. The hostess, Sharon Hawkins, provides continental breakfast. She works the EAA too so it should be possible to catch a ride with her to and from the show when she goes. The house is close to a bus line so you can get to/from that way too. Its available for the whole show. If interested, contact Sharon Hawkins, 920-232-8554. Please email me if you get the room so I can get my deposit back. Randall Henderson randall(at)edt.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randall Henderson" <randallh(at)home.com>
Subject: Room at OSH taken
Date: Jul 23, 2000
Looks like the room I posted at OSH (Sharon Hawkins') has been taken (Charlie, be sure to let me and/or the list know if anything changes.) I will in fact be going but not until Friday or Saturday, and I'll just camp. Look forward to seeing y'all! Randall Henderson, RV-6 N6R (~100 hrs) Portland, OR http://www.edt.com/homewing ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: (no subject)
please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RV-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
--> RV-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO <david.foelker(at)columbus.af.mil>
Subject: RV4-List: RE: Czech-List: Unsubscribe
Date: Aug 24, 2000
--> RV4-List message posted by: Foelker David J LtCol 50FTS/ADO Please unsubscribe me from Czech-List. V/R, David Foelker ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: RV4-List: (no subject)
--> RV4-List message posted by: larry laporte please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 24, 2000
From: larry laporte <llapo(at)dmv.com>
Subject: RV-List: (no subject)
--> RV-List message posted by: larry laporte please un-subscribe to all mail list thank you ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 28, 2000
From: David Aronson <aronsond(at)pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Aviation Swap Meet
Listers: I wanted to let all the lists know that there is an AVIATION SWAP MEET on Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 6:00am at the NUT TREE airport in NORTHERN CALIFORNIA (Vacaville). Go to htttp://www.solanopilots.com for more information. David Aronson RV4 Firewall forward at last!!!! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 01, 2000
Subject: A Season of Giving - Please Support Your List!
Dear Listers, As my good friend Al Mojzisik from the RV-List forum has pointed out in his humorous style this morning, its time for the Annual List Fund Raiser! For those that are new to the Lists since last year, I'd like to just mention what its all about. I have always run the List services here completely free of charge to the members. This includes the Email Lists, Archive Search Engine, as well as some of the other goodies found on the servers. My policy has always been that I will never charge a 'fee' to sign up for any of the email Lists and I have also turned down a number potentially lucrative of 'commercial' offers to provide advertising space either on the various web pages or on in each of the outgoing emails. I have always graciously declined these offers, however, because I have felt that the friendly, homey feeling of the commercial-free site was very appealing. I have also felt that offering the services here for free is the best way to stimulate the greatest membership, and in my opinion, this is the most important element in the success of a forum such as this. So, once again, I will restate my commitment to always keeping all of the services here on the Matronics servers free to everyone. That being said, I must also say that running this system is far from free for me, however. I am continually trying to provide the best, most reliable service possible and have continued to upgrade the systems as necessary to maintain or improve the level of service I provide. Quite aside from the "real costs" involved in the maintenance of a service like this, however, is the time commitment necessary to keep everything running and time required to produce new and improved software enhancements to make the whole experience more enjoyable for everyone. On the average I spend 10 to 20 hours a week handling subscription requests and related problems, maintaining the existing computer code base, and developing new utilities for the List community. The whole List site (web server and email server) continue to run across the 768kb/sec DSL-based Internet connection. Connections to the servers have generally been pretty reliable and performance has been good. Up time for the connection has approached the 99% mark. If you regularly enjoy the services provided here, I would ask that you make a Contribution in any amount in which you are comfortable. Your Contribution will be used to directly support the continued operation and improvement of all these services, and as always, I will turn your Contributions back into more upgrades and improvements. It is truly an investment in the future of these Lists. To make a SSL Secure Web Contribution using your Visa or MasterCard, please go to the following URL and follow the simple instructions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution.html To make a Contribution by check, please send US Mail to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 As I have done in the past, I will post a "Contributors List" at the end of the Fund Raiser, personally acknowledging each and everyone that has generously made a Contribution this year! Finally, I just want to say *Thank You* to everyone that has supported me and my operation here this year. Your support and encouragement means a great deal to me and I feel like I have friends literally from all around the world! Sincerely, Matt Dralle Your Email List Administrator dralle(at)matronics.com ============================================================================ >-------------- >--> RV-List message posted by: Al Mojzisik > >Well folks, > >I hate to spring this on you without much advance warning and all but it's >November already. For you newer List members you may not know but this is >the time of year we all give "thanks" for all that Matte Dralle has done >for us with this RV-List. the customary way of saying "thanks" is with a >voluntary donation of cash through Matte's own simple and safe contribution >hot-line at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > >It's really rather painless and actually gives you a good warm and fuzzy >feeling inside after you have made your contribution. Now last year I >relied heavily on guilt to get some of you harder nuts to crack to ante >up. This year I hope that in keeping with the election year theme I can >learn something from the experts........"It's for the children." > >Yes your contribution will help children everywhere learn about the high >moral values that are inherent in the RV family of aircraft. As our young >charges surf the Internet for information on various things that we don't >want them to know about, they may stumble across the Matronics Website and >become aware of the RV-List and other interesting forums that Matte >provides. This in turn may change there lives as they see what can be >achieved through hard work and perseverance. They will learn how the polite >exchange of idea's between consenting adults can result in the birth of one >(or more) of the finest aircraft in existence today. They can become aware >of a whole world out there that had previously been unknown or out of reach >to them. So in the interest of our children, send your contribution to >Matte to help the RV-List live long and prosper.............Darn, got my >tongue caught in my cheek there for a moment. > >Once again, you can make your contribution through credit card at: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > c/o Matt Dralle > Matronics > P.O. Box 347 > Livermore, CA. 94551 > >I would like to pledge at this time that I will not place any negative >advertising in the hope of raising funds for RV-List support. (Unless you >folks hold out too long, then look out!) Let's have a real clean campaign >this November and get out the contributions! AL >-------------- -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 03, 2000
Subject: List Fund Raiser Continues...
Hello Listers! This is just a reminder that the Annual List Fund Raiser is currently underway. Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of this valuable resource? Your Contribution can be made via a Secure SSL Internet Transaction with your Visa or MasterCard at the URL shown below or you may send it via US Mail to the address also listed below. http://www.matronics.com/contribution or c/o Matt Dralle Matronics P.O. Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you for your support! Your generosity directly makes this List possible. Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 03, 2000
From: AP-IA Bookstore <winterland(at)rkymtnhi.com>
Subject: 10% for Matronics
AP-IA Bookstore and eCharts is happy to do again, what we did successfully last year. That is to donate a portion of our sales for the month of November to the maintenance of the Piper-list. 10% FOR MATRONICS Starting now, 10% of any purchase from either AP-IA Bookstore or eCharts will be put aside as a donation to the Piper list, as our thanks for this excellent resource for Piper owners and technicians. We will run this special throughout November with a check for the total amount presented to Matt on December 1st 2000. To designate your share, please write the words "10% for Matronics" in the Special Instructions box on the on-line order form. Or, if you order something by phone, just tell me when you call. Thank you Matt for this excellent service. Andy Gold AP-IA Bookstore (for A&P technicians, working and student) http://AP-IAbooks.com eCharts (VFR/IFR aviation charts and directories) http://eCharts.cc ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Homebuilt-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Homebuilt-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Zenith-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 07, 2000
Subject: Rocket-List: 2000 List Fund Raiser Underway...
--> Rocket-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Hi Listers, Just a quick reminder that the 2000 Email List Fund Raiser is underway and participation so far as been good. If you haven't made your contribution yet, won't you take a moment and make one today? The continued operation and improvement of these services are directly enabled by the generous contributions of its members. You may make a contribution with either your Visa or Mastercard using the Matronics SSL Secure website at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or with a personal check to: c/o Matt Dralle Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551 Thank you to all those that have already made a contribution! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 08, 2000
Subject: Huge Apology for "List Malfunction"...
Dear Listers, I am so embarrassed by the List-gone-crazy tonight! I'm not sure exactly went wrong. I'm suspecting that someone with an email account at msm.com may have been reposting my message from this morning over and over again maliciously spamming the system, but I can't really prove that. In any case, I am hugely embarrassed and sorry for the ton of messages that went out tonight regarding the 2000 Fund Raiser. Something went wrong on the system or somebody did me wrong; in either case I apologize for the huge dump of messages. My sincerest apologies... Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 13, 2000
From: Jon Saulsgiver <jms(at)eznet.net>
Subject: AC system FS
hello Piper folks, The Rochester Flying Club has the following items for sale: 1) Air Conditioning system (removed from an '81 Archer). complete, except for the piping that runs from the engine bay to the tail cone. includes Prestolite 60A alternator. as removed, not yellow tagged. 2) York gust locks for PA28 aircraft (4 available). Make Offer. buyer also pays for shipping. appologies to the list, if this is inappropriate. these items are just not suited to our flying environment, maybe someone can use them. -Jon Saulsgiver Rochester (NY) FC (716) 323-2543 home (716) 230-6975 mobile or reply OFF LIST to: jms(at)eznet.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Nov 13, 2000
Subject: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented...
Dear Listers, With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting) and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how messages posted to the various Lists was handled. As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be accepted instead of bounced back. But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives. I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably why. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2000
From: Jim Ivey <jim(at)jimivey.com>
Subject: Re: Yak-List: New List MIME/HTML/Enclosure Filter Implemented...
Everything you need to know can be found at the following url: http://www.matronics.com/contribution/ I just used the secure credit-card option. There is also a snail-mail address for you old-fashioned types (i.e. back in the good old days when folks wouldn't abscond with your credit card info) ;) Jim Ivey N46YK Matt Dralle wrote: > --> Yak-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > Dear Listers, > > With the pervasiveness of email applications using HTML (web formatting) > and MIME encoding such as AOL 6.0, Netscape, Eudora and others it was > clear that I needed to come up with an improved method for limiting how > messages posted to the various Lists was handled. > > As of today, November 13 2000 you should be able to configure your email > program any way you like - with or without special formatting - and your > message will still be accepted my the Matronics system. Also, if you > include any sort of enclosure data, your message will also still be > accepted instead of bounced back. > > But wait, it gets even better! Everything except for the plain text > will be automatically stripped from the incoming post including any > HTML, MIME, and/or enclosure data prior to redistribution. This should > serve to both ease the configuration burden on the many users, and to > increase the readability of both the posted messages and the archives. > > I had a few 'bugs' with the filter on Sunday and Monday morning, so if > you received a few messages that seemed "odd", than this was probably > why. > > Best regards, > > Matt Dralle > Matronics Email List Admin. > > -- > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Great minds discuss ideas, > Average minds discuss events, > Small minds discuss people... > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ken Broste" <spiritmoves(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying...
Date: Nov 20, 2000
Matt, I think what you're doing is great for those of us flying and building Kolb aircraft. You're probably saving Kolb a full time employee in tech support just by providing the communication between builders. I know I have had a half dozen questions answered here on the list and saved Kolb support a few phone calls. You should forward this letter to Kolb, maybe they'd ante up, too. It would be great PR for the TN Kolb a/c. Thanks a bunch, Matt! Ken Broste Building a Firestar Tucson, AZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 10:33 AM Subject: Kolb-List: What Listers Are Saying... > --> Kolb-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle) > > > Dear Listers, > > During this year's List Fund Raiser I have been receiving a number of > very nice comments from members regarding what the Lists mean to them. > I'm sure most everyone can echo one or more of the thoughts expressed > below. Won't you take a moment to make a Contribution to support the > continued operation and improvment of your Lists? > > A special 'thank you' to everyone that has made a contribution so far > and for all of the wonderful and supportive comments I've received! > > > To make a contribution with a credit card over an SSL Secure Web Site, > please go to the following URL: > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > or, to make a contribution with a person check, please mail it to: > > Matronics > c/o Matt Dralle > PO Box 347 > Livermore, CA 94551 > > > Thank you!! > > Matt Dralle > Email List Admin. > > > ===================== Comments From List Members ======================== > > > * You helped make this dream a reality... -Terry C. > > * Thanks for a wonderful resource! -Rick J. > > * Thanks for providing a quality product. -Bill C. > > * Have found [the List] invaluable for education while building... -Rick H. > > > * I learn so much from the List! -Robert R. > > * [The List] is better than any aviation magazines I subscribe o. -Roger H. > > * I enjoy the pages and find them very helpful. -Noel G. > > * The "List" is a great place to both receive and exten help and ideas for > building and making flying safer. -Jack B. > > > * The discussions are very helpful. -James B. > > * ...I believe this List will be a better value than the ewsletter. -Roger T. > > * [The List] has helped me with the construction of my RV-9. -Marty S. > > * VERY good reading. Excellent entertainment value. -Jerry I. > > > * [The List] has saved me many hour on wild goose chases. -Billy W. > > * Thanks for keeping my passion for flying as piqued as ever. -Terry W. > > * Keep up the nice work. -Daniel H. > > * Thanks for all the effort on behalf of Sport Aviation! -Elbie M. > > > * ...Great information source! -Richard W. > > * ...Thanks for your help and patience with a very difficult ask. -Louis W. > > * [The List] has been a great asset. -Edward C. > > * Just started and already received some valuable tips. -Scott S. > > > * Thanks for the List to let up share our passion. -Brian A. > > * ...This List is good stuff. -Russ D. > > * ...The single most helpful resource I've come across in uilding. -Craig P. > > * ...Enjoy [the List] a lot. -John H. > > > * The List is a most important tool to help building. -Brad R. > > * ...Really found the List to be great! -Geoff T. > > * Excellent contribution to the aviation community. -Larry B. > > * Great source of information... -William G. > > > * The Lists ... make building a real hoot! -Jeff O. > > * The List has been invaluable. -Matt P. > > * Thanks for letting me use the site. It's great! -Larry M. > > * ...This List has been very helpful. -Larry H. > > > * Greatest support ever for the builders and I have met many riends. -Fred H. > > * ...I love this List and have met many new friends... -Tom E. > > * Love both the List and the Search Engine. -Roy G. > > > ===================== Comments From List Members ======================== > > > -- > > > Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 > 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email > http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Great minds discuss ideas, > Average minds discuss events, > Small minds discuss people... > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8292W(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 22, 2000
Subject: 1965 Piper Cherokee 180C question
I recently had my 1965 Piper Cherokee 180 C painted and during the stripping 6 small holes (two rows of 3 holes about 1 inch apart like this : : : ) appeared on each side of the fuselage just behind the windows.It appears that these are from a logo that was there.Does anyone have any information on what these are for and if it is for a logo, how can I obtain one?Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike Kraus N8292W ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2000
From: "Umbrella Tech.,Inc." <uti(at)umbtech.com>
Subject: Re: 1965 Piper Cherokee 180C question
Mike, It was number like 140 or 180 (which one you have?) I believe you could make that number your self by cutting from 1..2 mm aluminum and using 4-32 SSteel screews to attach. If you need picture, I could make one and send to you over e-mail for dimensions. Let me know if you need. Also I believe you can call ACSSC and ask them about numbers, I know they have cowl "Cherokee" logo, and perhaps they have numbers. Just ask. Vlad N9607J > >I recently had my 1965 Piper Cherokee 180 C painted and during the stripping> >6 small holes (two rows of 3 holes about 1 inch apart like this : : : ) >appeared on each side of the fuselage just behind the windows.It appears> >that these are from a logo that was there.Does anyone have any informati>on >on what these are for and if it is for a logo, how can I obtain one?Any >information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks >Mike Kraus >N8292W > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8292W(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 17, 2000
Subject: FS: 1954 PA28-180C Wing Tips
I have a set of wing tips off of my 1965 Cherokee 180C (Hershey Bar Wing) for sale. They are in pretty good shape, no cracks or chips, some high build primer and some sanding and they'll look brand new. Make an offer (I could send pictures to serious inquires). I'm located in Atlanta, GA. Thanks for reading -Mike ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8292W(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 17, 2000
Subject: FS: 1965 PA28-180C Wing Tips
I have a set of wing tips off of my 1965 Cherokee 180C (Hershey Bar Wing) for sale.=A0 They are in pretty good shape, no cracks or chips, some high build primer and some sanding and they'll look brand new.=A0 Make an offer (I could send pictures to serious inquires). I'm located in Atlanta, GA. Thanks for reading -Mike ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 21, 2001
Subject: Matronics Web Server Upgrade...
B Dear Listers, I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server this afternoon (1/21/01) and will be taking it offline for a number of hours. I hope to have it back online by this evening sometime, depending on how well the upgrade goes. Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft Great minds discuss ideas, Average minds discuss events, Small minds discuss people... ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 11, 2001
From: Elbie(at)aol.com (by way of Matt Dralle 925-606-1001 <dralle(at)matronics.com>)
Subject: Announcement
2/9/2001 Fellow Pilots and Builders: EM aviation is pleased to announce that the RiteAngle III Angle of Attack system is in production. I know this has been a long, long wait for some of you, however I will not sell a system that is not up to my standards. The long delay was partially caused by the total new design required after the RiteAngle 2000 system was terminated. The remainder of the delay was insuring the system met all our requirements such as both hot and cold environment testing. The first production group of systems off the line are being again extensively tested for approximately 2 weeks before we deliver any systems to insure there are no "bugs" appearing. When all production testing is accomplished I will ship according to who has sent in the order form via fax or US mail. (Again, DO NOT send your credit card number via e-mail! I DO NOT have a secure e-mail line.) If you want a spot in line for early delivery you can request this via e-mail, and mail your check or CC number. At present time I estimate 4- 10 weeks before your delivery, depending on when I receive your payment. To those of you who have been in correspondence with me for the last year, thanks for your belief in EM aviation's product, and soon you will have a product in your hands. I honor my correspondence of the quoted price. Current price $295 + mount & options see web site for information. www.riteangle.com Elbie Mendenhall President EM Aviation, LLC P NE Prairie Rd Brush Prairie WA 98606 360-260-0772 www.riteangle.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8292W(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 18, 2001
Subject: FS Piper Cherokee Wing Tips
I have a set of 1965 Piper Cherokee 180 Hershey Bar wing tips for sale. Great condition, can send pictures if you are interested. Best reasonable offer. I am located in Atlanta, Ga. Thanks, Mike ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8292W(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 18, 2001
Subject: FS Kennon Sun Shields for Piper Cherokee
I have a set of Kennon Sun Shields for sale. They are in nice shape and are from a 1965 PA28-180. They are for the 2 side window design. I can send picts if interested. Best offer. Thanks, Mike ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Terminaltown(at)aol.com
Date: Apr 21, 2001
Subject: Sites up and running
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Date: May 13, 2001
From: Gene Barlowe <gbarlowe(at)pacbell.net>
Subject: Instrument Panel Drawings
Hi folks, This is my first attempt at taking advantage of the Piper List. It is such a joy getting the daily message that there are "0" new messages I thought it would be different to send one and see what happens. I am restoring a '66 Cherokee PA28-150 and want to redo part of the instrument panel. Specifically the Northwest quadrant. Left of the radio stack and above the row of breakers. I am told that most NC shops are happy with Autocad drawings. Cool. I prefer ACAD but don't want to reinvent the wheel. Instrument placement and mounting locations are easy but it sure would be nice to start with an existing drawing that has an accurate perimeter already specified. I plan to use a .125 aluminum plate over the existing panel (hogged out for clearance). Does anyone have any ACAD drawings of a PA28-150 panel that I could start from? Thanks in advance for your reply. Gene Barlowe Camarillo CA EAA Chapter 723 gbarlowe(at)pacbell.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Mark Fowler" <mark(at)fowlerssheetmetal.com>
Subject: Archer with air
Date: May 18, 2001
I'm looking for an Archer and was wondering how air conditioning affects the plane. Does it fly slower? How well does it work? I would assume you can't use it in the pattern. I live in South Florida, maybe a good idea? sincerely mark ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James E. Clark" <jclark(at)conterra.com>
Subject: Archer with air
Date: May 19, 2001
I have an Archer **without** air conditioning. I live in Columbia, SC and it gets HOT! HOT ! HOT! here in the summer. Maybe worse than south Florida (lived in Ft. Lauderdale areaa for a few years too). I have **heard** that the A/C belt breaks a lot (smaller/thinner belt). Not sure how well the AC itself works but I seem to recall that it is OFF in the pattern and DEFINITELY on takeoff. This was the case with a Bonanza I got a chance to fly for a while. On my Archer, I simply do not close the door fully until I am doing runup and about to takeoff. Otherwise you will roast in the Archer. I do like my Archer a lot. James -----Original Message----- From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Fowler Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: Piper-List: Archer with air I'm looking for an Archer and was wondering how air conditioning affects the plane. Does it fly slower? How well does it work? I would assume you can't use it in the pattern. I live in South Florida, maybe a good idea? sincerely mark ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 01, 2001
From: ET - #PU <psi(at)hillweb.com>
Subject: Re: Instrument Panel Drawings
Gene, Forget CAD files... I did mine, PA28-180, '66 in past October. Radio stack convert from coffee grinders to : Garmin audio/intercom 340 KY196a KNS80 AT50 Old main panel cut with reminder of 3/4 of the inch and install blind nuts. From aluminium (i guess .125) cut new one and fit perimeter with file (forget ACAD... you need to use file!). Punch and drill holes and fit almost perfect. Painted and install all on the panel. Bolted panel in place. Do not forget make all wiring before you install all in place. Wiring diagram what you need real computer aid... :-) Whole modernization took 4 weeks in three shifts. Do not ask how much money ... I started with ACAD, but it is waste of time, since you doing one of kind installation. Look on the picture. Good luck! Vlad > >Hi folks, > >This is my first attempt at taking advantage of the Piper List. It is such >a joy getting the daily message that there are "0" new messages I thought it >would be different to send one and see what happens. > >I am restoring a '66 Cherokee PA28-150 and want to redo part of the >instrument panel. Specifically the Northwest quadrant. Left of the radio >stack and above the row of breakers. I am told that most NC shops are happy >with Autocad drawings. Cool. I prefer ACAD but don't want to reinvent the >wheel. Instrument placement and mounting locations are easy but it sure >would be nice to start with an existing drawing that has an accurate >perimeter already specified. I plan to use a .125 aluminum plate over the >existing panel (hogged out for clearance). > >Does anyone have any ACAD drawings of a PA28-150 panel that I could start >from? > >Thanks in advance for your reply. > >Gene Barlowe >Camarillo CA >EAA Chapter 723 >gbarlowe(at)pacbell.net > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: HFPILOT(at)aol.com
Date: Jun 12, 2001
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 05/27/01
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Date: Jun 13, 2001
From: ET - #PU <psi(at)hillweb.com>
Subject: O360
I looking for an overhauled O360 for PA28-180 Cherokee. Please advise, there is any STC for power upgrade? Thanks! Vlad ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JOHNTMEY(at)aol.com
Date: Sep 19, 2001
Subject: PartsToGive
Anyone have a TriPacer that needs gear ? Freebies ... Landing gear from 1957 PA22 S. Low time, plane was a factory seaplane, then later converted to tailwheel. Nose gear has "Piper" embossed OEM tire, probably original. I'll crate, you ship. Located in Denver area. John Meyers 303 526-7522 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 25, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: NEW Matronics Email List Feature! Browse Current List
Messages! Dear Listers, I have just finished building an all new Email List Web Browsing feature for the Matronics Email Lists. The new system allows you to use your web browser to view all of the current Email List messages. The system's indexes display all of the current List messages sorted by Subject, Author, Date, or Thread. Clicking on the URL links on these index pages will open another "Viewing Window" where the messages will be displayed. The format of the index pages and message viewing window are consistent with the existing Matronics Archive Search Engine and should be familiar to everyone. The messages available on this new List Browsing Feature span the previous 7 days of email for the given List. Each day the oldest day's messages are replaced with the current day's messages. The web pages are updated every 30 minutes with any new messages that are posted to the List during that time frame. Please have a look at the new Utility and let me know what you think! For ease of use, I've added a link to the new system on each of the List trailers that are appended to each List email message. I hope you will find the new system useful and also find it to be a handy companion to the Archive Search Engine. The new Email Browsing Utility can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse From here, you can select any of the available Email Lists. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JNice51355(at)aol.com
Date: Oct 27, 2001
Subject: Fuel Selector Valve
Folks I realize that this list is underutilized, but here goes anyway. I fly a PA28-140 circa 1967. I have a slight weeping from the stem of my fuel selector valve. I have not been able to find anybody that is familiar enough with the valve to take it apart and replace o-rings/washers as required. When the tanks are full, under certain conditions there is a fuel odor inside the cockpit, and I have occasionally found some blue dye below the stem of the valve to indicate that the weeping fuel had evaporated, but of course, the blue dye stays put. A new valve is priced at $295. A second hand valve is priced at $150. The second hand valve would be one taken out of a salvaged Cherokee, and I would imagine there is no guarantee of it's condition. The detents on the valve in my airplane currently are a bit on the weak side. Any Advice?? Jim Nice WA State ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 26, 2001
From: CAW <caw(at)nctc.com>
Subject: Re: Fuel Selector Valve
you are putting a very cheap price on your life JNice51355(at)aol.com wrote: > > Folks > I realize that this list is underutilized, but here goes anyway. I fly a > PA28-140 circa 1967. I have a slight weeping from the stem of my fuel > selector valve. I have not been able to find anybody that is familiar enough > with the valve to take it apart and replace o-rings/washers as required. > When the tanks are full, under certain conditions there is a fuel odor inside > the cockpit, and I have occasionally found some blue dye below the stem of > the valve to indicate that the weeping fuel had evaporated, but of course, > the blue dye stays put. A new valve is priced at $295. A second hand valve > is priced at $150. The second hand valve would be one taken out of a > salvaged Cherokee, and I would imagine there is no guarantee of it's > condition. The detents on the valve in my airplane currently are a bit on > the weak side. > Any Advice?? > Jim Nice > WA State > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jesse Kluijfhout, PE1RUI" <jessevli(at)zeelandnet.nl>
Subject: Re: Fuel Selector Valve
Date: Oct 27, 2001
Hello Jim, I once replaced the fuel selector valve O-rings of an PA-28-140. There is even a special kit for it, with the O-rings you need and a small tube with special lubrication. Dont know that partnumber out of my head, but it is there. I dont think you set a cheap price on youre live if you follow the instructions, you should test the fuelselector in a container with fuel, putting air pressure on it, while the other ports are closed. Look in the manual of the aircraft or the instructions with the overhaul kit for the pressure you need too leak test it. If you have any futher question, dont hesitate to send me an E-mail, Jesse ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 27, 2001
From: Wes K <wsknettl(at)centurytel.net>
Subject: Piper fuel selector
There is some merit to the comment on "value of your life". That aside I am an A&P / IA and have repaired and replaced a few. Depending on what crops up, you're looking at $30-50 in parts and 5 or 6 hours labor to repair. That adds up to almost $300. Economics says buy the new $295 unit. Wes K IA in Wisconsin ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 28, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Web Server Upgraded! Blazingly Fast Archive Searches!!
Dear Listers, As of this weekend, the Matronics Email List Web Server is now running on a brand new hardware platform and the latest version of RedHat Linux! The new hardware includes Dual 1.7GHz Xeon Processors, a 400MHz FSB motherboard, 1GB of 800MHz RAM, a Dual-Channel 160 MB/Sec Ultra-160 SCSI Controller, and an Ultra 160 36GB 15,000 RPM Seagate Cheetah hard drive. The performance of the new system is, in a word, breathtaking! In a variety of benchmark tests against the previous server, the new system is at *least* six times faster! This means that your Archive Search Engine queries will now come back in what seems like an instant! Single word searches of the 113MB RV-List Archive now return in 2-3 seconds, and searches of all other List Archives return in 1 second or less!! Performance enhancements in the download and viewing of all other web-based tools should also be noticeably improved as well. Please enjoy the new system performance and don't forget, the Annual Email List Fund Raiser is just around the corner!! :-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KostaLewis" <mikel(at)dimensional.com>
Subject: Re: Piper fuel selector
Date: Oct 30, 2001
> There is some merit to the comment on "value of your life". That aside I > am an A&P / IA and have repaired and replaced a few. Depending on what > crops up, you're looking at $30-50 in parts and 5 or 6 hours labor to > repair. That adds up to almost $300. Economics says buy the new $295 unit. Follows another OPINION, only. Humble, no less. Hmmmmm. The one in place can be repaired in place. A new one would necessitate removing the old one and replacing it with the new one. That is taking a lot of your airplane apart. If you have a leaky "O" ring, it may be an easy matter of taking the valve apart, replacing the "O" ring and putting it back together, using a dab or two of "Fuel Lube", which is a lubrication made especially for fuel valves. Talk to any of your local EAA members; one of them, if not the chapter, is likely to have a little Fuel Lube to give you, as a small can of it will last for about 50 or 60 years of use. One of them can probably lead your A&P through the "O" ring replacement (NOT meant as an A&P flame). It sounds like your mechanics are hesitant to repair the valve. It may be a matter of taking off the cap nut, replacing the "O" ring and putting things back the way they came out. I would pull the innards and lub it, however, as it will need it eventually anyway. Then, of course, you test the valve for proper function. And prior to your next flight. Your A&P should do that. IMHO, of course. Michael ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Navratril" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net>
Subject: speed mods
Date: Oct 31, 2001
I am looking at installing speed mods on my Seneca II. I have shopped LoPresti and Knots 2 you and Knots is conciderably cheaper. Does anyone have any input as to the quality of the Knots mods or any coments? Thanks Dick Navratil ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2001 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of the Forums sponsored here. Your contributions go directly into improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists. This year, I've made some substantial improvements to the Lists and the supporting systems. These upgrades are focused on making your experience here faster, more enjoyable, and most importantly, informative. Here is a partial list of improvements that I've made on the systems this year: o Upgraded Web Server - Minimum 6X increase in performance * - Tons more high performance disk space and memory! - Increased availability and reliability - UPS Backup - Improved support for > 130,000 Archive Searches each year! * See http://www.matronics.com/rv-list/RV-SearchTime.jpg o Email System Disk Subsystem Upgrade - More storage and faster access times - Faster redistribution of List Messages - Processed over 45,000 List messages in 2001; 50,000 in 2000! o All new List Browse Feature * - Browse the last seven day's worth of List Messages - Quick access to current threads - Sort messages by Thread, Date, Subject, or Author * See http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse o All new Photo Share Feature * & - Simply email your photos and files to share - Scanned for viruses - Automatic Web Page Generation - Includes descriptions and poster information * See http://www.matronics.com/photoshare & Officially to be announced soon o Transition To High Performance Internet Service Provider - Improved reliability - Better access from most sites on the Internet - Improved throughput These are just some of the more visible improvements I've implemented this year. I'm always working to improve the behind the scenes operation of the Lists. I've built an elaborate system of message text and source address filtering mechanisms to assure that you only receive text data in the message, spam is nearly non-existent, computer viruses are never propagated through the Lists, and that message post redistribution is smooth and trouble free. This year has seen a lot of improvements in the Email List experience. If you enjoy the Forums here and make use of the many features, won't you take a moment and make a Contribution to support the continued operation and maintenance? Please note there is no advertising funding on the Lists. You don't see annoying banner ads in the Email messages or on any of the web pages. This just seems more friendly to me and makes the List experience just that much more personal. The operation of these Lists is supported *completely* through the donations of List Members just like you! Please take a moment to support your Lists by making a Secure Credit Card Contribution at the following web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or you may send a personal check to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 I would like to thank everyone in advance for their Contribution and for their continued support over the past year! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 04, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser Off to a Slow Start...
Hi Listers, First I want to take everyone that has taken a minute already to make a Contribution to support the Email Lists in 2001! I also really appreciate all the kind words I've been receiving regarding the Lists and how much they mean to everyone. The testimonial means a lot to me and makes the many hours working on the system worth it!! Later in the month, I'll share a few of the kind words with the Lists. I've added a nifty new Bar Graph Thermometer to the message trailer that gives an up-to-the-minute percentage status of how many members have made a Contribution during 2001! It was a fun piece of code to write and hopefully will be a fun way to watch the Fund Raiser's Progress this year! As I've said in the past, the Lists are supported *completely* through your generous Contributions during the Fund Raiser and throughout the year. This includes all of the system and connectivity upgrades we seen, as well as makes the many hours I spend each month keeping the systems running even more enjoyable ;-). Won't you take a moment and make a Contribution right now to support your Lists? Its fast and easy with the On-line, SSL secure Credit Card system, or by direct US-Mailing a check. For complete information, please see the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you in advance for your Generous Contribution!! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator PS - Don't forget to monitor the Fund Raiser Bar Graph below! Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 08, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Listers Are Saying - Fund Raiser Continues...
Dear Listers, The 2001 List Fund Raiser is going well and I want to thank everyone that has already so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists! Below are some of the great comments and feedback members have been including along with their Contributions. Won't you make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of your Lists? Its fast and easy using the SSL Secure Web Site or by simply sending a personal check. Complete information can be found at Contribution web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution A give a special Thank You to all of those that have already contributed so far this year!! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ================== What Listers Are Saying ==================== Great information site. - Edward S. This is the first thing I look at every day. - Ralph M. The new List option is WONDERFUL! - Kenyon B. ...new Search Software is absolutely fantastic!! - Bruce K. ...essential to my enjoyment of RV building and flying. - Douglas W. Great List! - Randall H. ...an invaluable service! - Carlos S. ...incredible service to the industry! - Alex M. Building wouldn't be the same without the "Great List". - Tom E. ...has helped the building process immensely. - Hap S. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Have You Tried the New List Browse Feature??
Hi Listers, I've been getting a LOT of very positive feedback on the new Email List Browsing feature I added to the suite of List services a couple of weeks ago. A number of List members have written to say that they love the new List Browser because they can keep tabs on the latest List messages throughout the day without having to constantly check their email or wait for the Digest issue to come out. The List Browse Function allows you to use your web browser to view the current 7 day's worth of List messages for the give List. The indexes are updated every 30 minutes with any new messages that have been posted. You can sort all of the message indexes by Thread, Subject, Author, or Date and easily track and find current threads. You can check out the New List Browse Feature by going to the following URL and clicking on the List of your choice: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse Please remember that November is List Fund Raiser month!! The continued operation and upgrade of the Email Lists are _entirely_ supported by YOUR Contributions and support. You'll never see annoying, flashing banner ads, or other forms of commercialism on these Lists. Just people sharing information, data, and stories about your favorite topic, plain (plane?) and simple. If you enjoy the Lists and all of the services here, won't you take moment and make a quick Contribution? It fast and easy using the SSL Secure Web site with your Visa or MasterCard. Or, you can also send a personal check to the address listed below. SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution USMail: Matt Dralle c/o Matronics PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 Don't forget that the "List of Contributors" will be coming out in just a few short weeks! Don't you want to make sure you're name is on it? I would like to wish a special "Thank You" to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year!! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 12, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Free Copy of Van's New "THE RV STORY" Video!
Hey Listers! In support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Andy Gold of The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) is donating a FREE COPY of the new edition of Van's "The RV Story" video (VHS) to any Email List Member making a Contribution of $50 or more! To take advantage of this wonderful Offer, please include the following information along with your Contribution, either in the Message Box if you Contribute on-line, or on a slip of paper if your Contribution is by check via the USMail: Van's RV Story Video Offer $50 or Greater Contributor [your name] [your shipping address] [your City, State and Zip Code] If you've already made a Contribution in 2001 of $50 or more and would like to receive the video, please drop me an email ( dralle(at)matronics.com ) and include the information shown above with the words "Video Offer" in the Subject line. Please note that this new edition of "The RV Story" will first be available in about 8 weeks. I want to thank Andy Gold and the Builder's Book Store for this *very generous* Contribution! If you haven't taken a moment to check out The Builder's Book Store web site yet, you owe it to yourself to have a look ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ). Andy has a fabulous selection of interesting, informative, and exceptionally useful books and videos on his site. Please have a look! Again, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Your Contributions make all of the Lists and Services found here possible - period. Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 15, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What They're Saying...
Hi Listers, The 2001 List Fund Raiser is currently underway and lot's of people have been making their Contribution and saying a lot of very nice things about the Lists and what they're daily-dose of Forum means to them! I've included a few more of the Lister comments below. Won't you take a moment to support your Lists this month? Its fast and easy by making a Secure Credit Card Contribution at the following web site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or by sending a personal check Contribution to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 For Complete information on the upgrades and improvements the Lists and servers have undergone this year, have a look at this URL: http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=113171908?KEYS=asdfasdf?LISTNAME=RV?HITNUMBER=4?SERIAL=1942094803?SHOWBUTTONS=NO Here's few more of the comments I've been receiving about what the Lists mean to its members: ====================== Not only a great way to help each other out, it's been a wonderful way to meet new friends. - Fred H. The List is invaluable to me... - Russell W. I absolutely love your Lists... - Scott C. ...you are tying all the builders together. - David A. The Lists continue to be an invaluable source of information. - Jeff O. I look forward to reading my Email every day... - Harvey S. They are invaluable resources to builders of all skill levels. - Kevin H. ...another year of excellent service. - Terry W. Way cool setup. - Chuck R. ...source of information, inspiration, support, and camaraderie. - Carlos S. I'd be lost without them... - Jeff O. ====================== Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 18, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC
Hi Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors? As a number of people have pointed out, the List seems at least, if not a whole lot more, valuable as a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical your magazine subscription. We won't even talk about a newsstand price... :-) Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa or M/C on the SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by popping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 !! Don't forget !! Andy Gold of the Builder's Book Store ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) has generously donated a FREE copy of Van's new "The RV Story" video to anyone making a Contribution of $50 or more to support the Lists. For complete information on the _awesome_ offer, please see this URL: http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=113629625?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=RV?HITNUMBER=1?SERIAL=23392130806?SHOWBUTTONS=NO To make sure you get your video, be sure to follow the instructions at the URL above carefully! I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! I love to feel the love... :-) Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Michael Brown...
Hi Listers, In support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. ( http://www.browntool.com ) has generously offered to provide Gift Certificates to all Listers making Contributions of $30 or more this year! Making your Contribution to support these Email Lists and to qualify for the Brown Tool Gift Certificate is fast and easy by using the SSL Secure Credit Card Contribution Web Site at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or by sending a personal check Contribution to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 According to Michael, "The Gift Certificates have absolutely no strings attached and are as good as cash for anything from the Brown Tool Web Site or Catalog." The amount of your Gift Certificate is based on the size of your List Contribution and is according to the following: $100 or greater Contribution receives a $25 Gift Certificate! or $30-$99 Contribution receives a $10 Gift Certificate! ==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ==================== To receive your Brown Tool Gift Certificate, send an email message to: browntooloffer(at)matronics.com and include the following information: 1) Subject Line: Tool Offer 2) Which Gift Certificate you qualify for ($10 or $25) 3) [Your Name] 4) [Your Mailing Address] 5) [Your City, State Zip] ** Please only use the email address shown above ( browntooloffer(at)matronics.com ) to request your Gift Certificate! *** Anyone making a List Contribution of $30 or more in 2001 qualifies for the Gift Certificate! ==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ==================== You should receive your Gift Certificate from Brown Tool in about 2-4 weeks. I want to thank Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for this wonderful offer in support of the Email Lists! If you haven't yet had a look at the Brown Tool Web Site ( http://www.browntool.com ), then you own it to yourself to take a peek! He has some great deals and good quality tools. And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has already made a Contribution in this year's Fund Raiser! Its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and NOT ADVERTISING and FLASHING BANNER ADS... Thank you!! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Can You Say...?
Dear Listers, I've been getting a ton great comments on what the Lists mean to its members and I've included a few of them below. I'm sure _most_ of you can echo one or more of these sentiments to the tune of a nice List Contribution... :-) Just one more week until I post the 2001 List of Contributors! Won't you support the continued operation of these Lists by making a Contribution today and assure your place on the upcoming Contributor List? I'm sure your friends will be checking for your name on the LOC... ;-) SSL Secure Web Visa and MasterCard Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contributions Personal Check via the US Mail: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94551-0347 I want to thank everyone that has already made a Contribution this year! YOU make these Lists possible! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator =========================================================================== Can't live without my List everyday! - John B. Information you can't get anywhere else. - George D. ...one of the finest List sites on the Internet. - Dennis S. This List has saved my bacon more than once! - Larry H. Really invaluable service for a novice builder. - John B. ...got some useful help from the List. - Rocky S. A valuable resource. - Dennis N. This List is a Super resource... - Dwight F. ...couldn't have gotten this far without the resources on the List. - Jerry C. Great service to us builders... - Ronald M. ...someday we'll all meet in RV Heaven. Hey, how come there isn't an "RV-Heaven" List? - Louis W. The info I've gleaned from the List has saved me several thousand dollars... - Kevin H. ...the only International, Interesting, Up-to-date, List with the best search engine ever! - Hans L. ...check it ever day so I don't miss anything. - Jim B. Great List! - Douglas G. This List has saved me a few times already... - Thomas R. ...part of my morning wake up reading. - Dwight F. ...helped my make my plane better, safer, better looking, and built it quicker. - Kevin H. Have bought many items from the info the List gives. - Jim B. You meet the nicest people here. - George D. Informative, Amusing, Entertaining... - John B. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 26, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Don't Miss The Video...
Hey Listers! Just a reminder that in support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Andy Gold of The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ) is donating a FREE COPY of the new edition of Van's "The RV Story" video (VHS) to any List Member making a Contribution of $50 or more! To take advantage of this wonderful Offer, please include the following information along with your Contribution, either in the Message Box if you Contribute on-line, or on a slip of paper if your Contribution is by check via the USMail: Van's RV Story Video Offer $50 or Greater Contributor [your name] [your shipping address] [your City, State and Zip Code] If you've already made a Contribution of $50 or more during the 2001 Fund Raiser and would still like to receive the video, please drop me an email ( dralle(at)matronics.com ) and include the information shown above with the following Subject Line: Subject: Video Offer Please note that this new edition of "The RV Story" will first be available in about 8 weeks. I want to thank Andy Gold and the Builder's Book Store for this *very generous* Contribution! If you haven't taken a moment to check out The Builder's Book Store web site yet, you owe it to yourself to have a look ( http://www.buildersbooks.com/ ). Andy has a fabulous selection of interesting, informative, and exceptionally useful books and videos on his site. Please have a look! I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Just a few more days until I send out the List of Contributors for 2001. Make your Contribution today to make sure your name is on the LOC!! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Brown Tool Gift Certificate Reminder...
Hi Listers, Just a reminder that in support of the 2001 Email List Fund Raiser, Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. ( http://www.browntool.com ) has generously offered to provide Gift Certificates to all Listers making Contributions of $30 or more this year! Making your Contribution to support these Email Lists and to qualify for the Brown Tool Gift Certificate is fast and easy by using the SSL Secure Credit Card Contribution Web Site at: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or by sending a personal check Contribution to: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 According to Michael, "The Gift Certificates have absolutely no strings attached and are as good as cash for anything from the Brown Tool Web Site or Catalog." The amount of your Gift Certificate is based on the size of your List Contribution and is according to the following: $100 or greater Contribution receives a $25 Gift Certificate! or $30-$99 Contribution receives a $10 Gift Certificate! ==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ==================== To receive your Brown Tool Gift Certificate, send an email message to: browntooloffer(at)matronics.com and include the following information: 1) Subject Line: Tool Offer 2) Which Gift Certificate you qualify for ($10 or $25) 3) [Your Name] 4) [Your Mailing Address] 5) [Your City, State Zip] ** Please only use the email address shown above ( browntooloffer(at)matronics.com ) to request your Gift Certificate! *** Anyone making a List Contribution of $30 or more in 2001 qualifies for the Gift Certificate! But, you have to follow the instructions above to receive it! ==================== How To Receive Your Certificate ==================== You should receive your Gift Certificate from Brown Tool in about 2-4 weeks. I want to thank Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for this wonderful offer in support of the Email Lists! If you haven't yet had a look at the Brown Tool Web Site ( http://www.browntool.com ), then you own it to yourself to take a peek! He has some great deals and good quality tools. I would like to thank everyone that has already made a Contribution in this year's Fund Raiser! Thank you!! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Contributors Down By 25%...
Dear Listers, First I want to thank everyone that has already so generously made a Contribution toward this year 2001 List Fund Raiser. It is your support that makes these Lists possible. Since there are only a couple more days until the official end of this year's drive, I want to share some statistics regarding this and previous Fund Raiser percentages. In years past, the percentage of members making a Contribution to support the Lists has typically been right around 23% of the total List population. This year, however, you'll note from the Contribution Meter that we're only at a little over 16% for some reason. This is down by roughly 7%, and translates into about a *30% decrease* in participation this year! I'm hoping that everyone is just waiting until the very last minute to make their Contribution this year, and that the needle on the Contribution Meter will still creep up to the normal 23% in the next few days! Saturday or Sunday I will be posting the 2001 List of Contributors, so you'll want to heat up that Contribution Web Site right away to make sure your name is on the 2001 LOC!! The SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution The US Mail Address: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 29, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] - Why Have A Fund Raiser Each Year?
Listers, A couple List Members have asked if the Lists are "in trouble financially" and wanted to know if this is why I was having a Fund Raiser. It got to thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot* receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives don't get loaded up with a great amount of bitmap "data" that slows the Archive Search times. Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion, is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical email thread. I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the new List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of messages online for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous v*ruses. I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew who where building RVs. It has grown into nearly 40 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 500,000 hits each month!! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free. I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! Thank you, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ------------------------------------------ The SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution The US Mail Address: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 ------------------------------------------ ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Free Stuff Reminder...
Dear Listers, Don't forget that you can receive a free copy of Van's new Video, "The RV Story" with a $50 or greater contribution this year, or a $10 Gift Certificate from Brown Tool for a $30 or greater contribution or a $25 Gift Certificate for a $100 contribution. Below are two URLs for complete information on the two Offers. Please follow the respective instructions *carefully*. Van's Video Offer Information: http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=5781141?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=Yak?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=09092616692?SHOWBUTTONS=NO Brown Aviation Tool Gift Certificate Information: http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=5838463?KEYS=asdf?LISTNAME=Yak?HITNUMBER=2?SERIAL=09080216166?SHOWBUTTONS=NO I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore and Michael Brown of Brown Aviation Tool Supply Co. for their generous offers in support the Lists this year!! Thank you, guys! I'd like to thank everyone that has already made a generous Contribution in support of the Lists! Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Comments...
Listers, Below are some of the comments I've received just this week alone from members along with their Contributions to support the Lists! What can I say? Wow. I really appreciate the kind words and extremely positive feedback and I would encourage you to read over a few of comments below. I think they really say a mouthful... The last couple of days have seen a huge increase in support!! Thank you to all that have Contributed and to those that have rallied support for the Lists! Since the response has been so wonderful recently, I plan to delay the posting of the 2001 List of Contributors a few days to assure that everyone will be included! Won't you make your Contribution today to support the Lists? ------------------------------------------ The SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution The US Mail Address: Matronics Email Lists c/o Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore, CA 94550-7227 ------------------------------------------ Thank you to everyone for the kind words and support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ======== Some Great Comments on What The Lists Mean to its Members ========== ...great source of information, education, relaxation, frustration, and socialization. - John H. Can't imagine what it would be like building with out the Lists... - Steven E. Look forward to the list every day. - Parker T. I really enjoy reading the banter... - Wesley H. ...enjoy the patter on construction tips and possible problem areas. - Richard N. Couldn't have built my RV-4 without the List and archives!! - Warren M. I have found the list to be a great help, especially for a first time builder. - Peter D. I thoroughly enjoy the List. - Larry B. The List is a great resource. - Dennis K. The list is great entertainment. - Gary Z. Can't say enough about the good information that I have received from reading the List. - Robert C. ...it's the best! - Steve F. I'm addicted to the List! - Rodney B. The list has been a wonderful resource of knowledge. - Doug B. As a first time builder, the lists have been my most important source of information. - James V. It [read the List] is the first thing I do every day is see what's new. - Billie F. The information available through the List has made my flying safer... - Dave R. I get much more information about my plane from this List than from all of my aviation magazines combined. - Roger H. I love the list!!!! - Ken L. Much better value than a magazine subscription. - Ted M. ...found it very useful. - Allan J. ...this list has been a great service to me. - Peter F. I cannot express just how USEFUL the Lists are. - Geoff T. ...a tremendous help to my RV-8 project and a way to meet some of the best people going. - Steve G. The List is invaluable, and the best I've ever seen. - Ed C. Like another family for many of us. - John H. The lists have saved a bunch of calls to Van's for guidance. - James V. I think I'm addicted... - Terry C. Love it! - David W. The information really helps... - Jim P. ...I find [it] very informative. - Real D. ...List keeps me motivated... - Cliff M. The exchange of information is really helpful... - M.N. Lots of great info on the List. - Larry D. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 11, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: New Photo Share Main Index Page - The Detail You Asked For...
Hi Listers! I've been noticing a lot of people having fun with the new Email List Photo and File Share feature and I've seen a great many hits on the various member pages. A number of you wrote to say that some additional topic data on the Main Photo Share Index page would certainly be helpful and I would have to agree. It took a little programming, and it was a job retrofitting to all of the older Shares, but I think you'll be pleased with the outcome! I've added Poster Name, Photo Share Subject, and Target Email List data to the Main Index. Clicking on a Subject text opens a new window with the Photo Share and the thumbnails. Have a look and feel free to submit your photos for sharing! The instructions are at the top of the Main Photo Share Index Page. The URL is: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Enjoy!! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 16, 2001
Subject: [ Tim Webber ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From: Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Tim Webber Subject: Moving Map Display http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/tbertw@tenbuckplans.com.12.16.2001/index.html -------------------------------------------- o EMAIL LIST PHOTO SHARE Share your files and photos with other List members simply by emailing the files to: pictures(at)matronics.com Please view the typical Share above and include the Description Text Fields as shown along with your submission of files and photos. o Main Photo Share Index: http://www.matronics.com/photoshare -------------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 16, 2001
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [ PLEASE READ ] : Matronics Network Upgrade Mon. 12/17/01
Listers, According to my ISP, Speakeasy, they will be doing some sort of "backbone upgrade" Monday, 12/17/01. Their message doesn't mention whether or not this will impact connectivity for any length of time. I wanted everyone to know that there might be a time when access to the Matronics Web Server and Email Lists might be unavailable. If there's a problem, I'll post a message from a different email address with details. Bottom line: Hopefully nobody will notice... Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: N8292W(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 10, 2002
Subject: PA28-180 - FS or looking for a Partner
I have a nice PA28-180 for sale, all or a partnership at Willow Run, MI airport (YIP). It is fully restored, all King IFR certified, fresh annual, brand new Lycoming engine, new paint, interior, and glass. This plane is sweet!! For complete details and specifications, please see: Click here: For Sale: 1965 Piper Cherokee 180 N8292W PA-28-180C or: http://members.aol.com/mkraus01/cherokee.html ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Kinnerrl(at)aol.com
Date: Feb 06, 2002
Subject: Speed mods
I am thinking about Installing the Power systems flap gap. aileron gap seals and hinge fairings to my 68 PA28 140.. Any one that has installed these, feed back on performance changes would be appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Stan Otts $h$" <sotts(at)surfsouth.com>
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/06/02
Date: Feb 07, 2002
Have you seen Art Mattson's stuff at http://www.pipermods.com ? He's the Sun'n'Fun speed champ in the Cherokee 140. I haven't seen the PowerSystems gap seals, but Art's STC's are a lot more affordable than LoPresti and K2U. FWIW. -StanO > From: Kinnerrl(at)aol.com > Subject: Piper-List: Speed mods > > > I am thinking about Installing the Power systems flap gap. aileron gap seals > and hinge fairings to my 68 PA28 140.. Any one that has installed these, feed > back on performance changes would be appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________________
Subject: Lycoming for sale
From: "Philip Chapman" <chapmanp(at)us.ibm.com>
Date: Feb 08, 2002
02/08/2002 09:01:54 AM Lycoming 0-235-C1 for sale. Half life, great condition, cleaned and ready for installation$4K Can be inspected in CT 203 662 9768.Phil chapmanp(at)us.ibm.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Feb 17, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Belated List of Contributors #2...
Dear Listers, I'd like to apologize for the delay in posting the 2001 List of Contributors Number 2, as well as getting behind in the List Photo Shares. Here's my sad story... Over the Christmas holidays, I was working out in the shop on a rotating drum sander. I was sanding out the woofer hole in a speaker enclosure and, long story short, the part got away from me and started spinning like a Hula hoop on the drum. Rather than just turning the machine off like I should have done, I tried to grab the part and in the process badly broke the ring fingers on *both* my right and left hands!! I had to go in for surgery on the left hand because of the joint damage and was stuck in a thing called an "external fixator" for almost 4 weeks. The right hand has healed up well, but the left one is very stiff and I'm currently only getting about 70 degrees of bend. The doctor says that I will get 80-90% of the moment back with a great deal of therapy and I'm going to hold them to that... The moral of the story is that even a sander can be a dangerous tool. I had been working with a table saw, drill press, scroll saw, and high power routers all day long and afforded them all the respect they deserved. But with the sander, I never even thought about how things could go bad. It just didn't seem like a dangerous tool. Be careful out there in the shop. In a moment you can hurt yourself; hurt yourself in such a way that you will have to live with the damage the rest of your life. Nothing is worth that. I'm finally back working on the computer and getting back to email and other stuff. Later today I will be processing the mound of Photo Shares that have backed up while I was out. I also just finished up the 2001 List Contributions and have included the List Number 2 below. I want to thank everyone that has so generously contributed to the List this past year! It is your Contributions that make these Lists possible. I understand that the Van's Videos from the Builder's Bookstore should be shipping very soon if not already, and the discount coupons from Brown Tools should already have arrived. Thanks again to Andy Gold and Michael Brown for their generous support of the Lists this year with these giveaways! Oh, and now that my fingers are working pretty well again, I've decided to go ahead and finish my RV-4!! I had a LOT of guilt over wanting to sell it... :-) Happy Building and Flying! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator Alexander, Don Alexander, George Andrews, Jim Anonymous Blake, James Bowman, John Buryl, Hill Butler, Sherman Cantrell, Jimmy DeRuiter, Marcel Deffner, David Graumlich, Tom Griffin, Randy Harbour, Keith Hunt, Robin Jannon, Terence Johnson, Jackie Kahn, Steve Labhart, Norm Laird, David Larson, Joe Licking, Larry Maynard, Brad Navratil, Richard Noonan, Thomas Petersen, Paul Reed, Gary Rogers, Ken Salter, Phillip Schmit, John Schultz, David Sheffield, Ray Smith, Edmond Staley, Dick Utterback, Tom Uvanni, Bruce Williams, Henry Wilson, Robert Woodward, Don Worthington, Victor Zirges, Malcom ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 22, 2002
From: "Builder's Bookstore" <winterland(at)rkymtnhi.com>
Subject: Free Thunderbird, Blue Angels videos
Free Thunderbird, Blue Angels videos I've got 5 copies of a Thunderbirds / Blue Angles video which we'll give away for Free to the first 5 people who ask for it along with any other regular order from Builder's Bookstore. It's a 50 minute video, 1/2 on the Thunderbirds, and 1/2 on the Blue Angels. The Thunderbird segment is excellent. The Blue Angels section is not as good. To get one, just write FREE THUNDERBIRDS VIDEO in the special instructions box on the Builder's Bookstore on-line order form, or say so if you prefer to order something by phone. Also, in case you are caller #6 or later, note if your regular order depends on whether there is a free video left to include in your package. Andy Builder's Bookstore http://buildersbooks.com 800 780-4115 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: COMANCHE180(at)aol.com
Date: May 02, 2002
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
please remove us from list Thanks gene ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 20, 2002
From: joe bob <manoray99(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: carb heat flapper replacement
The carb heat box on our 1977 Warrior II needs to have the divider felt replaced. Does anyone know of a rebuild kit for this Joe N927PA --------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Bell" <rbell(at)hpavet.com>
Subject: Re: carb heat flapper replacement
Date: May 20, 2002
Hey Joe, Check with www.airboxes.com I've not used them, but I've heard good things about them. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "joe bob" <manoray99(at)yahoo.com> Subject: Piper-List: carb heat flapper replacement | | | The carb heat box on our 1977 Warrior II needs to have the divider felt replaced. Does anyone know of a rebuild kit for this Joe N927PA | | | --------------------------------- | | | | | | | ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: May 20, 2002
From: Ed Godfrey <egodfrey(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Shoulder harness
Piper List, I am in need to repair/replace an ailing shoulder harness in my Archer II. Can anyone provide me as to what I should be looking for and any potential places to purchase what I will need? Thanks. Ed Godfrey ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Navratril" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: Shoulder harness
Date: May 20, 2002
Try Wentworth Aircraft in Minneapolis, Mn. thy have lots of good salvage parts for Piper. They run ads in most of the mags. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Godfrey" <egodfrey(at)ameritech.net> Subject: Piper-List: Shoulder harness > > Piper List, > I am in need to repair/replace an ailing shoulder harness in my Archer > II. Can anyone provide me as to what I should be looking for and any > potential places to purchase what I will need? Thanks. > > Ed Godfrey > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JNice51355(at)aol.com
Date: May 27, 2002
Subject: Two Piece Nose Bowl
Does anyone know who sells the Two-Piece Nose Bowl for a Piper Cherokee 140 circa 1967? Sure seems it would be nice to be able to remove the nosebowl without removing the prop and spinner plates. Thanks Jim Nice WA State ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 14, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Browsing Feature!
Dear Listers, I thought I'd post a little reminder to everyone about a very slick feature of the email Lists here at Matronics. You can now use Netscape or Internet Explorer to browse the current messages on your favorite List! The List Browse Function tracks the current 7 day's worth of List messages for any given List. Indexes are updated every 30 minutes with new messages that have been posted. You can resort the message indexes by Thread, Subject, Author, or Date and easily track and find current threads. A number of List members have written to say that they love the List Browser because they can keep tabs on the latest List messages throughout the day without having to constantly check their email or wait for the Digest issue to come out. You can check out the List Browse Feature by going to the following URL and clicking on the List of your choice: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse Enjoy! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Keith Bedell" <bedelk(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: XDP4000X-List: unhappy
Date: Jun 14, 2002
All- I hooked up my xdp-4000x and it sounds like crap. I ordered the necessary cable from online and tried to tune it, but it just got worse. Is there something missing htat I need to do to get it to work. When I bypass it with rca splitters the res of my system works like a charm. I have the 6001ES running three 10' ES subs. Then 2 1805 ES's handling everything else. Aside from the problems with the 4x, there is a huge disparity between cd volume and radio volume. I mean huge!!!. I can max out radio volume and it sounds ok, then pop in a cd and half way blows mee out of the cab. Any ideas, I anm just so dissapointed right now.... From: Matt Dralle <DRALLE(at)MATRONICS.COM> Reply-To: xdp4000x-list(at)matronics.com To: Email-Lists(at)matronics.com Subject: XDP4000X-List: List Browsing Feature! Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:52:33 -0700 -- XDP4000X-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, I thought I'd post a little reminder to everyone about a very slick feature of the email Lists here at Matronics. You can now use Netscape or Internet Explorer to browse the current messages on your favorite List! The List Browse Function tracks the current 7 day's worth of List messages for any given List. Indexes are updated every 30 minutes with new messages that have been posted. You can resort the message indexes by Thread, Subject, Author, or Date and easily track and find current threads. A number of List members have written to say that they love the List Browser because they can keep tabs on the latest List messages throughout the day without having to constantly check their email or wait for the Digest issue to come out. You can check out the List Browse Feature by going to the following URL and clicking on the List of your choice: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse Enjoy! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 05, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Four New Email Lists At Matronics!!
Dear Listers, I've just added four new email Lists to the current lineup at Matronics. These new lists include: KRNet: krnet-List(at)matronics.com The RANS KR1 and KR2 Series Cub: cub-List(at)matronics.com The Piper J-3 Cub RV10: rv10-List(at)matronics.com The New 4-place RV from Van's! Europa: europa(at)matronics.com The Slick European Composite All the usual features are available with the new Lists including the search engine, archive download, 7-day List browse, and PhotoShare! To sign up for any or all of the new lists, please go to the List Subscription page and put in your email address and select the Lists of your choice. The URL for the Subscription page is: http://www.matronics.com/subscibe Don't forget that its your posts that generate traffic on the respective Lists! Post an introduction and a description of your project or dreams! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 05, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [With Good URL This Time!] Four New Email Lists At Matronics!!
[Typo in the subscribe page URL last time - SORRY! -Matt] Dear Listers, I've just added four new email Lists to the current lineup at Matronics. These new lists include: KRNet: krnet-List(at)matronics.com The RANS KR1 and KR2 Series Cub: cub-List(at)matronics.com The Piper J-3 Cub RV10: rv10-List(at)matronics.com The New 4-place RV from Van's! Europa: europa(at)matronics.com The Slick European Composite All the usual features are available with the new Lists including the search engine, archive download, 7-day List browse, and PhotoShare! To sign up for any or all of the new lists, please go to the List Subscription page and put in your email address and select the Lists of your choice. The URL for the Subscription page is: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Don't forget that its your posts that generate traffic on the respective Lists! Post an introduction and a description of your project or dreams! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Randall W. Seiler" <Randy(at)quickdel.com>
Subject: List question
Date: Jul 08, 2002
Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? Randy Cherokee N1226T ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: List question
Yeah, Randy. I am. Jim Randall W. Seiler wrote: > > Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? > > Randy > Cherokee N1226T > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ron Bell" <rbell(at)hpavet.com>
Subject: Re: List question
Date: Jul 08, 2002
yes ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall W. Seiler" <Randy(at)quickdel.com> Subject: Piper-List: List question | | Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? | | Randy | Cherokee N1226T | | | | | | | ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2002
From: Ed Godfrey <egodfrey(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: List question
Yes, but there isn't much activity. Ed Godfrey "Randall W. Seiler" wrote: > > Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? > > Randy > Cherokee N1226T > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 08, 2002
From: Gene Barlowe <gbarlowe(at)pacbell.net>
Subject: List question
Looks like it. Seems as if all I get is administrative stuff from Matt and routine proclamations that I have no new messages. Boy, those little gems sure light up my day. All the best! Gene Barlowe -----Original Message----- From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Ed Godfrey Subject: Re: Piper-List: List question Yes, but there isn't much activity. Ed Godfrey "Randall W. Seiler" wrote: > > Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? > > Randy > Cherokee N1226T > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "m hendershot" <hendershot(at)socket.net>
Subject: Re: List question
Date: Jul 08, 2002
yes marv hendershot jonesburg, mo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall W. Seiler" <Randy(at)quickdel.com> Subject: Piper-List: List question > > Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? > > Randy > Cherokee N1226T > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Richard Navratril" <horzpool(at)goldengate.net>
Subject: Re: List question
Date: Jul 08, 2002
I'm also lurking. Dick Navratil Seneca II ----- Original Message ----- From: "m hendershot" <hendershot(at)socket.net> Subject: Re: Piper-List: List question > > yes > marv hendershot > jonesburg, mo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randall W. Seiler" <Randy(at)quickdel.com> > To: > Subject: Piper-List: List question > > > > > > Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? > > > > Randy > > Cherokee N1226T > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Di Meo" <bdimeo(at)attbi.com>
Subject: List question
Date: Jul 09, 2002
Yep, I've got a Comanche. Bob N6455P -----Original Message----- From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randall W. Seiler Subject: Piper-List: List question Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? Randy Cherokee N1226T ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "SCOTT COMPTON" <scompton(at)prodigy.net>
Subject: pa-12
Date: Jul 09, 2002
anyone out there restoring/flying a pa-12 ? ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: pa-12
I'm restoring a 47 model PA-12. For the moment, I'll be putting the O-235 back on it, but I'm looking for an O-320, and hope to put the 235 on my PA-11 when I bring it back up from the basket. SCOTT COMPTON wrote: > > anyone out there restoring/flying a pa-12 ? ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KostaLewis" <mikel(at)dimensional.com>
Subject: List question
Date: Jul 09, 2002
> > Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? > > Oh, yeah. Us Cub guys are kinda the quiet type. Until someone starts badmouthing tail wheels. Then we get vocal.......... Michael '46 J-3 Cub, 90hp grrrrrrrrr ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KostaLewis" <mikel(at)dimensional.com>
Subject: pa-12
Date: Jul 09, 2002
> Anyone out there restoring/flying a pa-12 ? My instructor had about 14,000 hours on his -12 now, last I heard. Flys oil pipelines for a living. Has a bunch of mods: 150hp Lyc, enlarged and extended baggage, removable back seat cross bar, new wing tanks......... Michael NC 77597 J-3 Cub ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: List question
I'm in the midst of helping replace a 65 with a C-85-12 on a buddie's 46 Cub now. Have also removed an external belly tank, so am expecting some improvement in climb performance. I have a 46 Cub of my own, also with a C-85-12, but it's a basket case at the moment. I have an O-200 that looks tempting for it. I'm a bit of a ragwing Piper nut, with a 46 J-3, a 47 PA-11, and a 47 PA-12. Only the 12 is close to flying, in the late stages of a restoration (not show quality though). KostaLewis wrote: > > > > Is there anyone on this list yet besides myself? > > > > Oh, yeah. Us Cub guys are kinda the quiet type. Until someone starts > badmouthing tail wheels. Then we get vocal.......... > > Michael > '46 J-3 Cub, 90hp grrrrrrrrr ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KostaLewis" <mikel(at)dimensional.com>
Subject: List question
Date: Jul 09, 2002
>I'm in the midst of helping replace a 65 with a C-85-12 on a buddie's 46 >Cub now. Have also removed an external belly tank, so am expecting some >improvement in climb performance. Belly tank? My J-3 used to be a sprayer (!) with a 45 gal Sorenson tank slung under it. Course they replaced the 65 with a 75 horse engine. Big woop. I can't imagine. What belly tank did you have on yours? >I have a 46 Cub of my own, also with a C-85-12, but it's a basket case at >the moment. I have an O-200 that looks tempting for it. Go with the O-200. I believer Univar has the STC but you have to use their engine mount. Up to the C-90 is in the original type certificate and just takes a 337. I REALLY like my C-90-8. >I'm a bit of a ragwing Piper nut, with a 46 J-3, a 47 PA-11, and a 47 PA->12. Only the 12 is close to flying, in the late stages of a restoration Wow. The -12 and the J-5 have always been one of my favorite "Cubs". I'm jealous. I have had my -3 for most of it's life: 30 years now. I have a bunch of mods to it that only make your smile bigger. Michael NC77597 J-3 (Super)Cub. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2002
From: Jaye and Scott Jackson <jayeandscott(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: List question
Yes, I'm lurking too; having enjoyed owning a clip-wing 75horse Cub several decades ago. On my way to a 65-hp Cub obediently bobbing away at a stranger's dock on Vancouver Island where it was forced-landed last week after suffering a cylinder crack. Wonder how many tools or parts I'll drop into the water while changing the jug? Scott In Vancouver ----- Original Message ----- From: "KostaLewis" <mikel(at)dimensional.com> Subject: RE: Piper-List: List question > > > >I'm in the midst of helping replace a 65 with a C-85-12 on a buddie's > 46 >Cub now. Have also removed an external belly tank, so am expecting > some > >improvement in climb performance. > > Belly tank? My J-3 used to be a sprayer (!) with a 45 gal Sorenson tank > slung under it. Course they replaced the 65 with a 75 horse engine. Big > woop. I can't imagine. What belly tank did you have on yours? > > >I have a 46 Cub of my own, also with a C-85-12, but it's a basket case > at >the moment. I have an O-200 that looks tempting for it. > > Go with the O-200. I believer Univar has the STC but you have to use > their engine mount. Up to the C-90 is in the original type certificate > and just takes a 337. I REALLY like my C-90-8. > > >I'm a bit of a ragwing Piper nut, with a 46 J-3, a 47 PA-11, and a 47 > PA->12. Only the 12 is close to flying, in the late stages of a > restoration > > Wow. The -12 and the J-5 have always been one of my favorite "Cubs". I'm > jealous. I have had my -3 for most of it's life: 30 years now. I have a > bunch of mods to it that only make your smile bigger. > > Michael > NC77597 J-3 (Super)Cub. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: List question
KostaLewis wrote: > What belly tank did you have on yours? It's my buddie's. It was a 10 gal external fuel tank. very draggy. > Wow. The -12 and the J-5 have always been one of my favorite "Cubs". I'm > jealous. I have had my -3 for most of it's life: 30 years now. I have a > bunch of mods to it that only make your smile bigger. I got my 3 in 65, to learn to fly. I have maybe 600 hours in it. Got the 11 in 66, but never much liked it, so when it began to deteriorate, I just left it that way. Children came along and interfered with flying. Now that the children are grown, I'm thinking about throwing some more money at the 11. A friend gave me the 12 as a basket case about 10 years ago. I'm not sure he did me a favor. Jim ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: List question
P.S. I'd like to hear more about your J-3 mods. KostaLewis wrote: > -I have had my -3 for most of it's life: 30 years now. I have a > bunch of mods to it that only make your smile bigger. > > Michael > NC77597 J-3 (Super)Cub. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2002
From: Jaye and Scott Jackson <jayeandscott(at)shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: List question
I guess we all know what makes a Super Cub pilot unique- they spend enormous amounts of money to make their airplane fly slower. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Piper-List: List question > > P.S. I'd like to hear more about your J-3 mods. > > KostaLewis wrote: > > > -I have had my -3 for most of it's life: 30 years now. I have a > > bunch of mods to it that only make your smile bigger. > > > > Michael > > NC77597 J-3 (Super)Cub. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KostaLewis" <mikel(at)dimensional.com>
Subject: List question
Date: Jul 09, 2002
>I guess we all know what makes a Super Cub pilot unique- they spend >enormous amounts of money to make their airplane fly slower. You bet. Then we can land ANYWHERE! Mine actually goes faster with the mods (engine and prop) and further (36 gallons of fuel topped up). Still lands really S L O W L Y. > P.S. I'd like to hear more about your J-3 mods. WELL! Some people would say I ruined a perfectly good airplane. No. What I did was make it an airplane that is way more useful than the original J-3. Who's flying it anyway. It's just the way I wanted it. Front to back: 74-45 metal prop; Continental C-90-8 for power; Super Cub controls (gets rid of the bellcrank under the baggage area so you can drop the larger baggage bin down 3 more inches); Super Cub front seat (solo from either seat and is adjustable); two 18 gallon wing tanks (no nose tank but front header. LOTS of fuel); Cleveland wheels and brakes (cost less than rebuilding the Goodyear brakes and new 800 X 4 tires); Super Cub baggage; extended rear baggage. Is that all? I think so. Nice craft. I put the fittings in for flaps. HA! Like a J-3 would need them. I may never put them in. Lots of excess weight for not much gain. Sure is a sweet flying airplane. Land 'em anywhere. I could tell you stories........... Michael NC 77597 J-3 (Super) Cub ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 09, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: List question
KostaLewis wrote: > I put the fittings in for flaps. HA! Like a J-3 would need them. > I may never put them in. Lots of excess weight for not much gain. > > Sure is a sweet flying airplane. Land 'em anywhere. I could tell you > stories........... They are sweet flying. I used to do search and rescue work and flew some off the top of the Mississippi and White River levees. I always found that entertaining, particularly with gusty crosswinds. I've added it to the list of things I don't do in my old age. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "KostaLewis" <mikel(at)dimensional.com>
Subject: Cub flying
Date: Jul 09, 2002
>I used to do search and rescue work and flew some off >the top of the Mississippi and White River levees. I always found that >entertaining, particularly with gusty crosswinds. I've added it to the >list of things I don't do in my old age. When they were building I-90 through Montana, the overpasses would be built long before the interstate showed up. They would be sitting out in the middle of seemingly nowhere, this big aircraft of a thing, sticking up in the air. I always wanted to land on one, just to do it. Now, I wouldn't have the nerve. Good thing you're only young once. Michael ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 10, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Cub flying
You got that right. Jim KostaLewis wrote: > Good thing you're only young once. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 10, 2002
From: ncpiperpilot(at)netscape.net (Bill Goldberg)
Subject: here...
I'm Here. Lurking. Bill Goldberg Cherokee 180 N2071R Raleigh, NC area Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with Shop@Netscape! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JNice51355(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 05, 2002
Subject: Gascolator
Folks Anybody flying a PA28 with information please respond. During a preflight inspection, I noticed a small fuel leak in the Gascolator area. I removed the lower cowl and found that the leak was not from a cracked or loose fitting, but from the gasket in the gascolator. I reseated and re-installed the gasket and gascolator and have no problem. The stock gascolator bail and associated nut are prone to corrosion. I had heard somewhere that there was a better gascolator available that could be legally swapped out without even a form 337. Has anybody done this, and are you satisfied? Jim Nice WA State ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James E. Clark" <jclark(at)conterra.com>
Subject: Gascolator
Date: Aug 05, 2002
I have NOT made the change but I seem to recall having a similar problem several years ago on my 1980 Archer II. Re-seated everything and all has been fine since. James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of > JNice51355(at)aol.com > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:07 PM > To: piper-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Piper-List: Gascolator > > > Folks > Anybody flying a PA28 with information please respond. During a > preflight > inspection, > I noticed a small fuel leak in the Gascolator area. I removed > the lower cowl > and found that the leak was not from a cracked or loose fitting, > but from the > gasket in the gascolator. I reseated and re-installed the gasket and > gascolator and have no problem. The stock gascolator bail and > associated nut > are prone to corrosion. I had heard somewhere that there was a better > gascolator available that could be legally swapped out without > even a form > 337. Has anybody done this, and are you satisfied? > Jim Nice > WA State > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RFG842(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 06, 2002
Subject: Re: Piper-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 08/05/02
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From: RFG842(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 06, 2002
Subject: Panel
Recently purchased a 1956 PA22 Tripacer 135 and the panel is a mess. Anyone have a source for a center stack panel so I can rebuild this winter. Also looking for wheel fairings. Will be swithing to toe brakes. Thanks for the help. Bob ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Aug 06, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Panel
A friend of mine has a nice looking set of Pacer-Tripacer fairings designed by Jim Younkin. You might contact Jim to see who is building them. RFG842(at)aol.com wrote: > > Recently purchased a 1956 PA22 Tripacer 135 and the panel is a mess. > > Anyone have a source for a center stack panel so I can rebuild this winter. > Also looking for wheel fairings. Will be swithing to toe brakes. > > Thanks for the help. > > Bob ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 01, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Getting Bounced From Matronics Lists...
Dear Listers, I have two programs I run regularly to purge the various Matronics email lists of bad email addresses. I referred to these as my Email Weasels and there is a daily version that is run automatically every night at midnight and there is a and a monthly version that I run by hand at roughly 30-day intervals. The Daily Weasel grinds through the 8 to 10mb of bounced email that is generated each day looking for obvious things like "user unknown", "host unknown", and other things that usually mean the user's email address doesn't exist any longer. The Daily Weasel has been purging 5 to 10 email addresses each night. The Monthly Weasel gets more serious about the task and sends a single message to each list member with specially generated headers and content information. Any bounces or replies to these messages are considered errors and the email address is eligible for purging. This program is particularly useful for "weaseling out" email addresses that are actually being forwarded to by another email address that is subscribed to a List and otherwise would not be identifiable. The Monthly Weasel purges roughly 100 nonexistent email addresses each month when it is run. To check to see if your address has been removed by either of the Email Weasel programs, you can check the Weasel Status Web Page at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed If you find your email address on the Weasel List, but are certain that everything is working fine now, simply go the Matronics Subscription page and resubscribe your address. No harm, no foul. The subscription URL is: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe That all having been said, I've noticed that the Daily Weasel may have been getting a little too aggressive in purging addresses recently and a number of people have written asking if and why they'd been dropped from the List. A couple of months ago I rewrote the Daily Weasel program to include a wider variety of errors and more aggressively purge. One of the new purge criteria that I added seems to occur a fair amount of the time (Connection Deferred) even though the address is really okay. As of today, I've removed the Connection Deferred criteria from the Daily Weasel Rule set and this should decrease the number of "false positives" and unnecessary unsubscribed. Again, if you get unsubscribed by either of the Email Weasel utilities, simply go to the subscription page and resubscribe: http://www.matronics.com/subscribe Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 03, 2002
From: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds(at)macs.net>
czech-list(at)matronics.com, europa-list(at)matronics.com, ez-list(at)matronics.com, glasair-list(at)matronics.com, homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com, kolb-list(at)matronics.com, kr-list(at)matronics.com, lancair-list(at)matronics.com, pelican-list(at)matronics.com, pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com, piper-list(at)matronics.com, pitts-list(at)matronics.com, rocket-list(at)matronics.com, rv4-list(at)matronics.com, rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com, sonerai-list(at)matronics.com, tailwind-list(at)matronics.com, ultralight-list(at)matronics.com, warbird-list(at)matronics.com, yak-list(at)matronics.com, zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In Saturday, October 19, 2002, Hampton Roads Exec (PVG), Virginia, 9AM till 7PM Hampton Roads Exec (PVG) is 27nm SW of Norfolk, Virginia (253 radial ?ORF) AWOS 118.375 CTAF 123.0 The weather will be a perfect Virginia fall day! Aircraft parking is off taxiway between Rwy 23 and T-Hangars East of Airport Terminal Schedule of Events Fly-In Begins 9AM Food all Day 10AM ? 3PM Poker Run (Walk Around Field) Project Visits on Field Aircraft Judging 11AM ? 3PM, All Categories, Antiques, Classics, Homebuilts, Warbirds Social Hour 4PM Dinner 5PM ? 7PM, BBQ Sandwiches, Chicken, Drinks Local motels/hotels are available For More Information Frank Toy 757-460-3680 ftoy(at)att.net Richard Reynolds 757-627-8743 rvreynolds(at)macs.net EAA Chapter 339 http://home.earthlink.net/~avyator/ Hampton Roads Exec Airport http://www.hamptonroadsexecutiveairport.com/index.html ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 15, 2002
From: "Richard V. Reynolds" <rvreynolds(at)macs.net>
czech-list(at)matronics.com, europa-list(at)matronics.com, ez-list(at)matronics.com, glasair-list(at)matronics.com, homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com, kolb-list(at)matronics.com, kr-list(at)matronics.com, lancair-list(at)matronics.com, pelican-list(at)matronics.com, pietenpol-list(at)matronics.com, piper-list(at)matronics.com, pitts-list(at)matronics.com, rocket-list(at)matronics.com, rv4-list(at)matronics.com, rv6-list(at)matronics.com, rv7-list(at)matronics.com, rv8-list(at)matronics.com, sonerai-list(at)matronics.com, tailwind-list(at)matronics.com, ultralight-list(at)matronics.com, warbird-list(at)matronics.com, yak-list(at)matronics.com, zenith-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In Saturday, October 19, 2002, Hampton Roads Exec (PVG), Virginia, 9AM till 7PM Hampton Roads Exec (PVG) is 13.5nm SW of Norfolk, Virginia (253 radial (ORF) AWOS 118.375 CTAF 123.0 The weather will really be a perfect Virginia fall day! Aircraft parking is off taxiway between Rwy 23 and T-Hangars East of Airport Terminal Schedule of Events Fly-In Begins 9AM Food all Day 10AM - 3PM Poker Run (Walk Around Field) Project Visits on Field Aircraft Judging 11AM - 3PM, All Categories, Antiques, Classics, Homebuilts, Warbirds Social Hour 4PM Dinner 5PM - 7PM, BBQ Sandwiches, Chicken, Drinks Local motels/hotels are available For More Information Frank Toy 757-460-3680 ftoy(at)att.net Richard Reynolds 757-627-8743 rvreynolds(at)macs.net EAA Chapter 339 http://home.earthlink.net/~avyator/ Hampton Roads Exec Airport http://www.hamptonroadsexecutiveairport.com/index.html ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 27, 2002
From: Steve Semenuk <shsrv6a(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: New Elect. Intl. Inst. Package for sale
zenith-list(at)matronics.com, piper-list(at)matronics.com, lancair-list(at)matronics.com.europa-list@matronics.com, beech-list(at)matronics.com, aviation-list(at)matronics.com I am selling at a loss the following. $3200 and they're yours, including shipping. That's $650 less than you'll find anywhere and it includes a fuel level gauge that is not included in most engine monitors: Brand new, never installed or used, still in original boxes (opened only to inventory) Electronics International instruments as a package only. Purchased earlier this year. All necessary sensors and transducers, wires, etc. are included. 1) UBG-16 CHT/EGT bar graph including 4 cht/4egt probes and 1 OAT probe. Room for 7 other temperature/parameter readings. 2) FP-5L Fuel flow and pressure with GPS interface to calculate fuel to destination 3) R-1 RPM including flight time 4) OPT-1 Oil pressure and temp 5) M-1 Manifold pressure 6) VA-1 Volt/Amp with 50 Amp external shunt 7) FL-2 Dual fuel level for resistance (standard float) senders Steve Semenuk shsrv6a(at)yahoo.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2002 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists. The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show much traffic the Lists generated last year alone: 11/01/2001 - 10/31/2002 Web server hits: 8,700,000 (727,000/mo) Incoming Email Posts: 51,259 (4,271/mo) * * This number is multiplied by the total number of email addresses subscribed to the given List. The actual number of email message processed is in the 50,000,000 range for last year!! The new Internet provider, Speakeasy, has been providing extremely fast and reliable service over the last year, and this has certainly been a refreshing change from previous providers! There were a couple of new features added at the tail-end of last year including the new List Browse Feature ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), and the List Photoshare which have been both very popular. Many people have written to say how much they enjoy the on-line browsing capability of current week's messages. The 184 new Photoshares ( http://www.matronics.com/photoshare ) added over the last year attests to its acceptance and appreciation in the community as well. I have upgraded both the email and web server OS systems recently to the latest - well almost the latest - version of Redhat Linux and Kernel 2.4.19, both of which have been working very well and quite reliably. What does the future hold? Well, something pretty exciting I'm hoping... I am currently evaluating a new, commercially available software package that runs under Linux and provides a complete web-based Email List service akin to what those other guys use. The difference will be that there won't be any annoying advertisements and popup ads on the Matronics system!! The system will continue to be dedicated to furthering Lists activities and not trying to sell you something you don't want. My hope is to keep most if not all of the current functionality in place and add the new software system over the top. Some of the system will be replaced (like majordomo), but the lists will work much like they do today - only BETTER! As I mentioned, I am currently in the evaluation stage of this and have yet to select a final product. Suffice to say some facelifts are definitely on the way! Unlike many of the other "list servers" on the web these days, I have a strict no-commercial-advertisement policy on the Matronics Lists and associated List websites. I have been approached by a number of vendors recently with advertising deals that have been very tempting. However, my commitment to providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment prevails! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing exponentially every year with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to mention the ever increasing Virus attacks. My goal with the Matronics List Service is to provide my members with a commercial-free, safe, and high-performance system in which to share information, ideas, and camaraderie. I recoup my upgrade, maintenance, and operating costs by having a List Fund Raiser once a year during November. During this time, I ask List members to donate a small amount of money to support the continued operation of the Lists over the upcoming year. Contributions in the $20, $30, and $50 range are common. This year I have completely revamped the Contribution website, and have added the ability to use PayPal to make your Contribution in addition to the traditional Visa/MC and Personal Check Options. Its easier and faster than ever before to make your Contribution!! For those who are accustomed to using PayPal to make Internet purchases, will appreciate the ease and speed of using this handy method of payment to make their List Contribution. The best news this year, however, is that I have a couple of fantastic Gift offers to support the List Fund Raiser! Andy Gold of The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ) will be generously donating a FREE Jeppesen Flight Bag to anyone making a $50 or more List Contribution during the Fund Raiser! This is a great bag and something you'll surely what to get your hands on. Thanks Andy, for this great incentive!! In addition to the great Flight Bag, I will also be offering a FREE Matronics List Archive CDROM for a $50 or greater Contribution! This is a complete set of archives for all Email Lists currently hosted by Matronics. The Archives date back to the beginning of the each List. In the case of the RV-List, for example, this includes archives all the way back to 1990! That's about 133Mb alone! Also included on the CD is a copy of Chip Gibbion's Windows Archive Search Utility and a precompiled search-index for each archive on the CD. Better yet?! You can get BOTH the Flight Bag AND the Archive CD for a Contribution of $75 or more which is actually LESS than the combined retail price on the two items!!! How can you go wrong? Get some great stuff AND support your Lists at the same time! Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made possible through YOUR support! I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who supports the List this year. Your generosity contributes directly to the quality of the experience here. To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with a Personal Check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as additional information on the various methods of payment. SSL Secure Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contributions Again, I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this year! Your Contributions truly make it all possible!! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: New List Digest Feature!! [Please Read]
Dear Listers, I've added a new feature to the Digest format of the Lists tonight. At the top of each digest you will find a new Index Listing of all of the messages found within that Digest including the Message Number, Subject, Poster, and Time of Day posted. I've also added a "Message Number" header to each message within the Digest so that its easy to find 'just the message' you were looking for! Sorry for the double posting of the digests tonight - the first time I didn't quite have the code right and a few "bogus" entries made it into the Index. I went ahead and reposted the Digest so that everyone could see how the Index-to-Message mapping really worked. Special 'thanks' to Gary Hall for not only suggesting a Digest Index, but also supplying a few samples on how it might look. Gary, I think you'll be quite pleased with the format! Don't forget that were right in the middle of this year's List Fund Raiser and if you haven't already made your Contribution, you own it to yourself to check out the great free Gifts that are available this year with your qualifying Contribution. The Lists are operated completely though the support of it members, and so its up to YOU to get that credit card out and make that $20, $30, or $50 show of support for the continued operation of the Lists. Won't you take a couple of minutes and make a quick Contribution on the all new, streamlined List Support web site? I've also added a Payment-through-PayPal option this year, and this is proving a very popular method of payment. Don't forget to check out the great free gifts you can get with a qualifying Contribution this year. I can't believe how popular they've been this year! Hurry and get your's today and support the Lists at the same time! Here's the SSL Secure URL for making your Contribution: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your Support!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 07, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser - What Listers Are Saying...
Dear Listers, First, I'd like say *thank you* to everyone that's already made a Contribution to this year's List Fund Raiser! Thank you! If you haven't already made a Contribution, won't you take a movement and show your support for these valuable services? Since there's no advertising or other forms of direct commercialism on the forums to support the Lists, its soley YOUR GENEROSITY that keeps them running!! Won't please take a minute and make a Contribution via the SSL secure web site via Credit Card, Paypal, or personal check. Here's the URL: http://www.matronics.com/contributions This year, I've been getting some *really* nice comments from Contributors and I thought I'd pass along a few of them below. What does the List mean to *you*? Thank you for your support!! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator _________________ What your fellow Listers are saying... _________________ ...great service!! Greg B. They have been a great assistance to me in building my RV-8. Kevin H. ...very much appreciated. Donald M. Great site... Angus F. ...invaluable resource. Ronald C [The List] has played a big part in continuing my project at those times when I got stuck for some reason. Jeff D. Although I am only a reader, I find the list very helpful. Oswaldo F. The lists are a fantastic resource and are helping me very much... Kenyon B. The list is part of my life. Ron C. The CD will free up some hard disk space on my personal PC. Jeff D. ...unbelievably useful. Dan O. ...dependable and valued source of builder information. Jerry C. My daily lifeline! Owen B. ...frequently get questions answered on the List. Billy W. Don't know how any first-time builder could get by without the lists. Rick R. ...great source of information and motivation. Jef V. Super resource! David P. The information presented is very helpful to the building process. James B. Wonderful Service! Wendell D. The lists are great! F. Robert M. ...very valuable to this builder. William C. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 11, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser Continues...
Marie Murillo Dear Listers, Just a quick reminder this morning that we're well into this year's Email List Fund Raiser. Response has been great so far and there has been a lot of interest in the Gift options. Speaking of those Gifts, I received a sample of the Jeppesen Flight Bag from Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com this weekend, and let me just say that this is an extremely fine quality unit. Its very light, folds down into a very small form for storage, and will hold a whole lot of your "pilot stuff"! For a mere $50 List Contribution, one of these very nice bags could be yours! You'll be the envy of all your friends. Won't you make a Contribution today to support the these valuable Email List Services? Please remember that its YOUR generosity that entirely supports the continued operation and upgrade of the Lists. That's it - no ads, no banners - just good clean fun; that is, with your support of course! Please take a moment and make a generous Contribution today. It only takes a minute using the newly redesigned Contribution Web Site where you can use either a Credit Card, PayPal, or a Personal Check to make your donation. The URL for the SSL Secure Contribution web site is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution And I'd like to say a special "thank you!" to everyone one who has made Contribution so far this year!! I really appreciate your generosity! Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Said What...?
Dear Listers, Wow, I can't belive some of the nice things people have been saying about the Lists in that little message box on the Contribution form! I've included more of the great comments since the last WLAS. Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!! Have a look at some of your fellow members thoughts below and decide if the Lists mean at least that much to you or perhaps even more... Won't you take a moment and make a Contribution to support these Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, high-performance List services? Its your direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that enables all of these valuable services you've come to expect of the Matronics Lists. Thank you for your Contribution!! SSL Secure Web Site - http://www.matronics.com/contribution Matt Dralle EMail List Administrator ===================================================================== =================== What Listers Are Saying - II ==================== ===================================================================== I check this List 4 to 5 times a day... -Bruce B. These are without a doubt among the best managed Lists to which I subscribe. -Terry W. Thank you for providing such a wonderful service. -Roy W. ...fine service! -Christopher A. Best list on the Internet! -Geroge A. Great list with a host of features. -David A. Having built part of a kit... ...I know exactly how much this list means to me and others. -Curtis H. As always... you've got a real cool & very useful service going... -Chuck R. I shudder to think of the trouble I would have had getting this project airborne without this list! -Grant C. ...enjoy everyone's input. -Doug P. I read the [the List] every day... -Ronald S. Whenever I feel like not building on my day off....I open my mail and the [the List] gets me pumped and ready to hit it! -Tom E. The Digest Message subject list is an excellent addition. -Kevin S. Certainly the [the List] has been a valuable source for building support and advice, but there's another benefit,... the wonderful friends that we meet and keep for years and years! -Fred H. What a great forum to exchange ideas and info. -Terry L. The List is my daily RV fix. -Neil H. I always received comments and suggestions when I requested them. -Thomas G. Best resource a builder could ever have. A daily must! -Robert C. Thanks for your gift - these web sites! -Tom P. ...great info. -Richard W. The List empowers all RV builders to achieve success... -Mark G. I've been reading the postings for a month now and decided to take the plunge as a result of the helpfulness and spirit of cooperation I observed. -Tim P. ...invaluable service. -Ford F. I check in at least twice daily for my e-mail "Fix". -John S. Its worth every penny of my contribution. -Paul M. Wonderful web site and it keeps getting better. -Jim H. A valuable list which has certainly helped me. -Andrew G. ...the List helps so many. -Don J. I really appreciate the site and find it interesting to speak to people who are into this type of aircraft. -Larry M. This is a great recreation for me. -Larry B. [The List] keeps me up to date and provides a fantastic resource for information. -Terry F. Lists are a great resource! -Daniel S. ...great service and professional administration of the Lists. -Chris R. I really appreciate the List. -Edward O. Worth every penny, and then some! -Kenyon B. ...great service. -Ralph H. Your unselfish contribution to the experimental aircraft movement is very much appreciated! -Alex M. Great help on the Aeroelectric list. -Bruce B. It helps on a daily basis. -Tim G. Thanks for providing this outstanding service to us! -Michel T. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 16, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: LOC Coming Soon...
Dear Listers, This year's List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner. I'll be posting the LOC on or about December 1. The List of Contributors is a directory of everyone's name that made a Contribution during this year's List Fund Raiser. Its kind of my way of publicly thanking everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of these Lists. Support your Lists today and make sure that your name is on the upcoming LOC! Your friends will be checking no doubt to see if YOU make your Contribution because THEY did! :-) Support Contribution Info - http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 19, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year?
Dear Listers, I got to thinking today that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot* receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the Archive Search times. Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion, is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical email thread. I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of messages online for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous v*ruses. I am currently working on the additional ability to post and/or reply directly from the List Browse interface. More on this upcoming feature in the next week or so. I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where also building RVs. It has grown into over 40 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 9,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards well over 50,000,000 (yes, that 50 MILLION) email messages to subscribers each year! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free. I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! Thank you, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ------------------------------------------ The SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------ ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Marcus Wegmeyer" <misai(at)northland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: High Oil heat problem
Date: Nov 20, 2002
I'm wondering what others have experienced. I and my plane (a 1979 Archer) live in Northern Michigan and now is the time when we reinstall the winterization plate over the oil cooler inlet. Having done that I now am experiencing extremely high oil temperatures. The other day flying at 4500 ft, 2500 RPM, OAT -10c my temperatures were running above the 180 mark, I'm guessing 215 to 225 degrees. This is unusual for my airplane I've not seen these kinds of temperatures before. So I land and remove the winterization plate. I now read a temperature of 150 degrees but my oil pressure is so high, in the red, I have to throttle back to 2250 RPM to get the pressure in an acceptable range. Some other facts: (1) I was running Aeroshell 80 (40W) oil (2) The winterization plate supplied with my airplane is a solid piece of aluminum, no hole in the center. (3) This concern has been growing over the last year, prior to a year ago I had none of these difficulties or I really didn't pay attention to my temp and pressure gauge. Since getting back to home base my mechanic has done the following: (1) Changed the oil to 15W50 (2) Cut a 1 3/8 in hole in the winterization plate and I now read a tad over 180 degrees on the temp gauge. (3) Flushed and check the oil cooler for blockage. (4) Today we will be readjusting the oil pressure down to try to correct this problem. Are there any others out there who have experienced these problems, what were the fixes, and what am I missing? Thanks, Marcus, N2817L ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 20, 2002
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: High Oil heat problem
You don't appear to have a problem. Your temperatures appear to be about as expected for the conditions you describe. All the best, Jim Marcus Wegmeyer wrote: > I'm wondering what others have experienced. > Are there any others out there who have experienced these problems, what were the fixes, and what am I missing? > > Thanks, > > Marcus, N2817L > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 22, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Value?
Dear Listers, We are quickly approaching the end of November and the official end of the List Fund Raiser. If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to think of it, you do... :-) Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists. Contribution Page: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!! Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 23, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status...
Dear Listers, A couple of people have written asking what the shipping status was of their free List Contribution Gifts. Seemed like some status was in order and I thought I detail where we're at... Flight Bag Requests ------------------- On 11/20/02 I shipped out the first batch of Flight Bag-Only (FBO) gift requests. I shipped all FBO gift requests I had received from 11/1 to 11/19 except for 3 (Sorry guys!) - I ran out of my first shipment flight bags! Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ) is supplying me with another batch flight bags which should arrive in about 2 weeks. By the way, these are REALLY nice Flight Bags. Extremely well built and very professional looking. Folds down into a very small size, but will hold a huge amount of stuff. If you fly, and you've got a lot of stuff, they you WANT one of these guys. Surf over to the List Contribution page for details on how to get one of your own!!! http://www.matronics.com/contribution The Flight Bags have been shipped out US Mail Parcel Post in a large, and I mean LARGE, padded white plastic envelope. According to the Post Office, worse case delivery time would be 8 days to destinations on the East Coast, but indicated it would likely take a lot less time. Archive CDROM Requests ---------------------- The Archive CDROMs will be mastered and burned on or about December 1 and should ship out shortly there after. Shipping will be US Mail, Media Rate in a big padded white envelope. The Archive List data included will be up to November 30th. Flight Bag and Archive CDROM Requests ------------------------------------- These combination orders will ship out when the Archive CDROMs are complete as described above, likely a little after December 1. The Flight Bag and the CDROM will be shipped together in the same Giant white padded envelope! Again, I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore for providing these awesome Flight Bags to support the List Fund Raiser. Andy has gone way beyond the call of duty with regard to his support of the Lists this year and to show your gratitude I would ask that you have a look at his web site and great media offerings. You'll find some excellent deals on some very useful material. http://www.buildersbooks.com And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year! Your generosity and kindness is greatly appreciated. If you've been putting off making a Contribution, now's a great time show your appreciation in plenty of time to make it onto this year's List of Contributors AND get your free gift with qualifying Contribution!!! List Contribution Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution/ Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: All New List FAQs!
Dear Listers, I got to looking at the Email List FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) today and realized that they where miserably out of date. I spent a wad of time today completely revising them and adding in documentation on all of the many new features such as the List Browse and Photoshare. Many of the little-known features are documented in there now, too, so even if you're a seasoned List veteran, you might want to give it a read. Never know what you might discover. At the bottom of this message in the Trailer you will find a new link item called "List FAQ" with a URL for this specific List. Just click on it and print it out or read it online. Don't forget that November is the List Fund Raiser month! The "2002 List of Contributors" is just days away and I know you'll want to make sure your name is on it!! Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of these List Services! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 25, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: WLAS
Dear Listers, There are only a few days left until the November List of Contributors. I thought I'd take another opportunity to pass along some of the really nice things people have been saying recently about the Lists and how much they mean to them. If you receive value from the Lists in the form of ideas, assistance, comradery, moral support, inspiration, or just plain 'ol good entertainment, then won't take a moment to make a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of them? Secure List Contribution Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution What does the List mean to you? Here's what some of your fellow contributing List members have said... ------------------------- What Listers Are Saying ------------------------- Great service for aviation types like me. Larry H Best investment I've made. Harley B I've been on this list since around 1996 and used it to help me finish my RV-6A three years ago. I'm still here because I still learn from it and use it to help others like me who may be where nobody else is building a RV. Thanks for your service to our community. It's appreciated. Jim S [List] people are a great break away from politics, religion and other sordid subjects. Robert B This site is a great confidence builder for the amateur builder. Gene L Great service! Barry P Very handy list to have, a good place for a beginner to get great answers from those who already experienced it. ...sure enjoy reading it. Joel R ...valuable service! Chris & Indira K This is the better than any morning paper - the best and most frequent service that I use on the Internet. Great job! This will make building the RV doable for me. Pete E I enjoy all of the ideas, suggestions and humor that comes with this list. I don't think I could build my RV4 with out everyone's help. Ross S GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT! James W The list is a great source of information, motivation, entertainment, passionate debate, and light-hearted back slapping. I wouldn't be without it. Roger H ...would still be looking for plans to hook-up s-tec auto pilot without your service! David S The new [digest] format is good. Graham S Great information you can't get anywhere else. Lots of nice people who have "Been there...done that." George D My normal morning routine: 1 Kiss "the princess" 2 Good cup of coffee 3 Log onto "List" A wonderful means of exchanging ideas, asking questions, gathering information, and sharing experiences. Robert G Great lists. Not only are the lists professionally and efficiently managed, but the *people* on the lists are very helpful, friendly and fun to chat with. Thank you for this wonderful resource. Ihab A Thanks a million, well maybe not a million!!! (: Ken H I need this fix every morning or I get grumpy... Wayne P Very useful lists Paul E This communication medium that you created, nurtured and continue to maintain is the best thing since AN rivets! Jim J The information I gleaned off the list has always been helpful. Kenneth B I've been a subscriber to varied lists for several years now. The knowledge provided has been extremely useful throughout. David P Enjoy everyone's input even though I am not a builder...just a flyer. Douglas P Just laughin' and a scratchin' Dennis N It is a real asset and good for comic relief. Ross S I can't build my plane without your service! Kent H Great info on the lists! Wesley H I'm very new to the List but have already benefited greatly. Jim S The "List" has been my best source for information concerning my aviation projects. Besides, it also brings a bunch of people together to share their interests and knowledge. Thanks for providing a state of the art, easy to use resource tool. David A I have saved a lot of grief and dollars from referencing this site. It is truly an extension of Van's product support. Joseph C Terrific asset this List is to the builder! Scott J Great service! Tony B Look forward to the list each and every day. John B I could not cope up here in this lonely island without the help of the List and all the wonderful helpful people that have the experience of aircraft building and flying for fun. Johann J This list is part of my daily routine. I'm addicted. Terry D Great forum! John H This list is my main interest in the Internet. George R Great list. The best out there on any subject. Kevin H Been on the list since 1998 and I still look forward to reading the list every day. A most valuable tool. I have picked up many useful tips during the construction of my RV-4. Jerry I Thanks for all of your hard work on the lists. It is one of the reasons I bought a CJ-6A. Without the Yak-list, I believe it would have been much more difficult to get all the information that I need for safe operation and maintenance of this fine aircraft. David L The List has been an amazing source of useful information. I consider it one of my best builder tools. Gunter M An excellent channel of information. I have gained a wealth of knowledge on both building and flying Kolb aircraft. Jim B Enjoy the wealth of information that is shared. Richard N Fine service. Beauford T [The] List is the first stop of the day. Made lot of friends from it. Orie S The information I gleaned off the List has always been helpful. Kenneth B Over the 3+ years that I have been building, I check it several times each day. I have learned a lot of very useful tips that have helped me in my building. Richard D Not only is it worth a contribution for the info gleaned from it but the personalities alone are pure entertainment! Stephen F This is great stuff!!! Entertaining, too!! Fast answers from those who really know... Bob R I am building an RV-9A and have received help from the lists and occasionally been able to give help to others. Alden Van W This list has saved me countless hours of work and worry already, and I'm only halfway there! Undoubtedly the most important aid I have yet found in this sometimes intimidating process of building an aircraft. Paul H I've been a member since '96 and have learned so much from the vast knowledge of the listers. Gary Z Outstanding List, exceptionally maintained. David S Thanks for all the improvements you've made this year. The Photoshare feature definitely proves "one picture is worth a thousand words". Richard H I finished my RV6A this year. It is a much better airplane because of the help I found on the RV and Aeroelectric Lists. Dale W Can't imagine building without the list. Larry H The list continues to be a great resource of information and advice. Jeff O ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Allen Reed" <allen_reed2(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: micro-switch
Date: Nov 26, 2002
Hey Gang,new to your list.Have a Twin Commandewr I'm selling and will be buying a Twin Commanche.I need a part for the Commanche and hope ya'll can help. Part # is 4TL66-3F. Any help will be greatly appreciated,thanks. BIG AL Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: New Gift Selection Added - List Fund Raiser! [Please Read]
Dear Listers, I've just added a great new last minute Gift Selection to this year's List Fund Raiser line up! I have a very limited number of sets of a wonderful collection of Aircraft Technical books by Jeppesen entitled "The A&P Technical Series Book Set". This is a great opportunity to make a generous Contribution to support the Lists and walk away with a great set of reference manuals at the same time. This set of books normally retails for over $117 PLUS shipping, but you can pick up your set AND make this year's List Contribution for a cool C-note - that's a $100, by the way! :-) I'm thinking "Great Christmas Gift"... There's more information on the books and making your Contribution at the List Contribution web site: Email List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution We're coming close to the official end of this year's List Fund Raiser and if you haven't yet made your Contribution, there's still time get your name on that List of Contributors! The percentage of contributors is kind of low this year but I'm hoping many of you are just holding out until the last minute! I want to thank each and everyone of you that has already made a donation to support the continued operation and upgrade of these List Services. As I've mentioned in the past, running these Lists is a labor of love for me and the hours upon hours of code development, system maintenance, and upgrades are MY Contribution to support this great resource for Builders and Flyer's alike. Won't your take a minute and make YOUR Contribution today? I want to thank you for your support both during the Fund Raiser but also throughout the year in the form of kind words and moral support. A nice comment from a List member about how much the lists have helped them is always a sure way to brighten my day! Thank you to all! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ!] "What is my Contribution used for?"
Dear Listers, Some have asked, "What is my Contribution used for?", and this is a valid question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides for the expensive, business-class, high-speed Internet connection used on the List, insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search Engine and List Browser. It pays for 14+ years worth of online archive data available for instant random access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, and Photoshare. But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation, censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places on the Internet can you make all those statements about these days? I will venture to say - next to none... It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many desirable aspects of this most valuable List service. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its the best investment you can make in your Sport - BAR NONE! Email List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Report...
Dear Listers, This is the last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser. Based on previous year's percentages of Lister's making a Contribution, this year we are nearly 40% behind the normal... And I thought all those great gifts would eke the percentage up past the average a little. Oh well. Maybe people just don't really mind the flashing banner ads for Viagra, and popups for X10 minicams... There's still plenty of time to get your name of the List of Contributors. I'll probably publish the LOC on Monday night after I process the checks from the Post Office. I do want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year. Your support is greatly appreciated and is what makes the Lists possible. How to support your Lists this month: http://www.matronics.com/contributions Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 30, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: All New List Digest Format!!
Dear Listers, I've just finished up some awesome code that will completely change your thinking about how email Digests should work and look! Yeah, I'm kind of proud of it, that is true... :-) What you'll be getting in the new List Digest message is the following: The main message will contain the new text-based index I introduced a few weeks back. But here's where things get different... Instead of simply including all of the day's posts in line within the message, there will now be included two enclosures - one with a HTML encoded version of the Digests, and another with the usual text-only version of the Digests. I think you're really going to like the new HTML enclosure of the Digests. All of the Indexes at the top are now hyperlinked to the actual posts and there are hyperlinks at the top of each post that will: o Take you back to the Index o Take you to the next post o Take you to the previous post o Allow you to respond to the LIST regarding the message o Allow you to respond directly to the POSTER regarding the message You'll have to check it out to appreciate the full goodness of the new format! :-) The text-only version is basically exactly the same data that has been normally sent in line within the message. You'll also note that the filenames of the enclosures are such that they can be conveniently placed in a personal "archive" directory for future reference. Hope you enjoy the new Digest format!!! Oh, and don't forget about the Fund Raiser! :-) Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 01, 2002
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: New, NEW List Digest Format...
Dear Listers, Okay, so I woke up this morning to an email box full of hate-mail about the new List Digest format. I thought it was cool, but I guess not... Still, it seemed like too much code to just throw out, so I've modified things a little and I'm hoping everyone will be happy with the new, NEW arrangement. Here's how it works now: o The HTML and TXT enclosures aren't sent in the Digest any longer. o URL Links to the HTML and TEXT versions of the day's Digests will be found at the top of the digest email. o The new Digest Index will be found at the top of the digest email following the URL Links. o The full digest text will then be found in the email as before. o All of the previous Digests will now be available on line. The URL for the main digest page is: http://www.matronics.com/digest From here, you can drill into the specific List Digest of interest. o Both the HTML and TXT versions of the Digests can be found here. o The List Message Trailer will contain a Link directly to the given o Right now there's only one Digest shown, but each day there will be another. They will be sorted with the newest at the top. Left-hand column is the HTML version, right-hand column the TXT version. A couple people also complained that some messages in the HTML version were just one long line that went off to the right forever and they hated that. Come to think of it, this is also an issue in the Search Engine, List Browser, and Archive Browser. Some email programs don't included hard Returns at regular intervals and that's what causes this. I wrote a program tonight that will automatically chop these long lines into 78 characters or less and wrap the rest of the line. After tonight's Archive transfer, all of the Searching and Browsing tools shouldn't have the problem any longer either. Woo hoo! So, back to the new Digest format. What people are going to see in the new, NEW Digest is a bit of verbiage at the top of the email describing the URL links to the HTML and TXT on-line versions, followed by the Links, followed by the day's Index, followed by the day's messages just as before. Lines longer than 78 characters will also be automatically wrapped onto the next line. Hopefully this will be a more pleasing arrangement for everyone. Sorry to get everybody so stirred up over the format change! The List of Contributors is coming out tomorrow night... Still time to make that Contribution! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Best regards, Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: COMANCHE180(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 02, 2002
Subject: Re: Official Usage Guideline [Please Read] [Monthly Posting]
Please remove COMANCHE180(at)AOL.COM from list thanks Gene ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 24, 2003
From: "Robert J. Mayer" <rjmayer(at)optonline.net>
Subject: Pre-buy
I'm looking for a Comanche 'expert' in South Carolina to do a pre-buy on a 180. The plane is located in Manning. Can anyone recommend a good mechanic there? Thanks, Rob ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 24, 2003
Subject: New books for Homebuilders
From: sonja.englert(at)juno.com
Hi everyone, I would like to introduce myself to the Piper pilots. I am an aeronautical engineer, pilot, airplane homebuilder and writer. I have written 3 new books for airplane homebuilders, which you can check out on my web page www.caroengineering.com. They are mainly for airplane homebuilders, but should be of interest to anyone who wants to install engines, work with composites or flight test an airplane. Cheers, Sonja Englert www.caroengineering.com ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "James E. Clark" <jclark(at)conterra.com>
Subject: Pre-buy
Date: Jan 26, 2003
Where are you? Give me a call on Monday at 803-238-2113 (cell) and I will pass on what I know based on what you are looking for. James Piper Archer II owner > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com > [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert J. > Mayer > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:47 PM > To: piper-list(at)matronics.com > Subject: Piper-List: Pre-buy > > > > > I'm looking for a Comanche 'expert' in South Carolina to do a > pre-buy on a 180. The plane is located in Manning. > Can anyone recommend a good mechanic there? > Thanks, > Rob > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 22, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 7-Day Matronics List Browse Enhancement...
Dear Listers, Neil Hulin of the Zenith-List at Matronics wrote to me suggesting I add a "total of available messages" column to the 7-Day List Browse Main page, and it seemed like a great idea! I've made the modifications and I think many will find it extremely helpful as well. Have a look at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse/ Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin... Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RFG842(at)aol.com
Date: Mar 23, 2003
Subject: Panel builder
Try www.epanelbuilder.com The site has added a Piper Tripacer panel builder. Lots of fun and help. Bob ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 01, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics ISP Upgrade TODAY...
Dear Listers, The time has finally arrived for the Internet Service Provider (ISP) upgrade! You'll recall that I was looking into upgrading the existing SDSL connection from 768k to 1.1M. As it turned out, the copper line wouldn't support any speeds greater than the current 768k. In light of that news, I just bit-the-bullet and ordered a full, commercial-grade T1 connection. The T1 connection will provide a full-duplex, high priority, 1.5Mb Internet connection which should be a substantial performance enhancement for all of the List services! Pacbell delivered the T1 Loop last week and it tested out fine. This past weekend I pulled the tail circuit from the demark to the office. This afternoon, Tuesday 4/1/03, the ISP is suppose come and install the new router and bring up routing on a test subnet. Assuming that everything checks out okay with the T1, new router, and routing, I will have them swing the main Matronics subnet off the SDSL and onto the T1. In theory, the swing could be nearly transparent to users, but that's usually not the case... ;-) Please expect a bit of instability in connectivity this afternoon as we work though the transition issues. I will post a follow up message when everything is up and running on the new T1 line. Finally, please know that it is solely your Contributions that make these kinds of List upgrades happen! There is no advertising budget (aka, flashing banner ads and annoying pop up browser windows) to pay these bills; operational support is solely from List members like you during the yearly List Fund Raiser. If you would like to make your Contribution to support the Lists and upgrades like this T1 connectivity enhancement, please see the List Contribution Web Site where you can make your Contribution with a Credit Card, PayPal, or Personal Check. You can even get a free List Archive CDROM with a qualifying List Contribution! The URL is: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thanks again to EVERYONE that made a generous Contribution last year and enabled this awesome upgrade to T1 service! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 02, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Matronics ISP Upgrade COMPLETED!
Dear Listers, I just wanted to send out a quick note to let everyone know that the 1.5Mb T1 connection upgrade went smoothly today. They brought up the new line and router yesterday on a test subnet and today the ISP switched over connectivity about 12 noon with little to no incident. I just finished some performance testing, and it appears that actual throughput and interactive response is noticeably improved as advertised! Enjoy! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Ollie Washburn" <skybolt-aviator(at)msn.com>
Subject: PA-12
Date: May 06, 2003
HI----Does anyone on the list have a PA-12 and if so do you have an equipment list? I need to see one or copy one.Thanks. Ollie N30V Central Fl. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2003
From: John Grosse <grosseair(at)ameritech.net>
Subject: Electronic Checklist for Piper Arrow
I have a Sporty's Electronic Checklist for a 1967-1969 Piper Arrow that I'd like to sell. It's new in the box and works perfectly. There's separate buttons for normal operations and for emergencies. It's kinda neat if you're in tune with the digital age, but I'm afraid I'm stuck on paper. I'll accept any reasonable offer. John Grosse grosseair(at)ameritech.net ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <phil(at)petrasoft.net>
Subject: Re: Movie
Date: Jul 08, 2003
Please see the attached zip file for details. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RFG842(at)aol.com
Date: Aug 15, 2003
Subject: Water No 2
Got several replies on my original message so will answer all on the digest. What I called the "pencil" sump tester is the one with the serrated top and the screwdriver on the bottom. Have carried one for years but at the AI pointed out, doesn't drain much gas. Why we got gas and not water until a larger sample was taken, I don't know. One fellow suggested that we got all water, did not see or smell the sample, and so ignored the result. Got my ticket in 1946 and a couple of tricks I was taught was to shake the airplane a little so the water drained to the sumps. All gas tanks are not created equal. Also when you pour the sample on concrete, the gasoline evaporates quickly while water leaves a longer, timed stain. Guess what the final answer is that you can always learn and although you try to do everything right, expect the unexpected. That's what flying is all about. My son did a great job, kept the nose straight ahead, didn't get flustered and planned his touchdown perfectly. Little hard to get back in the plane after inspection and fly it to home base, but he learned a lesson he's not likely to forget for a while. Bob PS: End of subject ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Sep 15, 2003
Subject: New SPAM and Virus Filtering Appliance At Matronics...
Dear Listers, I will be installing a new SPAM and virus blocking appliance this evening or tomorrow. The installation will involve some changes in the Matronics DNS MX records, and will impact how incoming email is handled. While I expect these changes to be transparent to all of the List subscribers, things might go differently... ;-) The Lists get bombarded with tons of SPAM messages and viruses each day and fortunately my custom filters have been extremely effective at filtering most of this from redistribution. Its time to move to the next level of technology, however, and this SPAM and Virus filtering appliance seems like an excellent solution. I will post a follow up message later in the week when things have stabilized and I have some filter statistics to share. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 21, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] SPAM Filter Could Be Causing Posting Problems
For Some Members...? Dear Listers, Matronics is now utilizing a SPAM filter appliance to filter out the excessive amounts of inappropriate email that bombards the Email List Forums each day. The filter is reporting that over 66% of the email messages sent to Matronics email destinations are of SPAM content and reviewing the logfiles, it would appear to be true. That is indeed great! While the Lists are enjoying the breath of fresh air afforded by the new appliance, I am suspecting that a few legitimate email List posts are being blocked as too, although I can't confirm this. It is difficult to churn through the logfiles looking though thousands of blocked email messages trying to determine if any legitimate List posts were blocked. If you suspect that your posts are accidently being blocked by the SPAM filter appliance, I have created a new Trouble Report web page that will allow you to report your problems directly to me without having to use email. If the SPAM filter is blocking your email address for some reason, then its likely that I wouldn't be able to receive your direct email regarding difficulty in posting. The web form bypasses the incoming email and directs your message directly to me. Please include as much information as possible regarding the problems you are having including any bounced email or email error messages that you may have received back in regard to your posts to the lists. The more information I have about the email you are sending and what the errors you are receiving, the better chance I'll have in hunting down the problem. The Trouble Report Website URL is: http://www.matronics.com/trouble-report/ I apologize for any inconvenience the SPAM filter may be causing you. I will work toward resolving your issues as quickly as possible. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics EMail List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Chris Martin" <cmartin(at)syntheon.com>
Subject: Archer III operations at high altitudes
Date: Oct 10, 2003
Dear list members, I have a good friend who is considering the purchase of an 2000 Archer III. He lives in UT and his airport is at about 7600' feet high. We are hoping to find some feedback on this list as to the feasibility of operating this aircraft at such high altitude airports. Obviously we know that the performance will be marginal at best, but if someone has some direct experience that can share it would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Chris ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jolly" <jollyd(at)ipns.com>
Subject: tri-pacer
Date: Oct 18, 2003
i am based at aurora, oregon, and am rebuilding a tri-pacer...it needs bungies badly..and I have new ones to install..BUT does anyone have the tool I can borrow, or advice on installing them without the tool?..thanks in advance...jolly in aurora, or. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Al Latham" <geebeed(at)grm.net>
Subject: Re: tri-pacer
Date: Oct 22, 2003
Jolly, Be DAMN careful changing bungies. I bought a 1958 PA-22-160 my senior year in High School and my dad and I changed the bungies as my instructor wouldn't let me fly it with the tired ones that it had. We took the hydrasorb units out and went to a friends shop...he took us into a room with a huge vise and told us how to change them then left, said he didn't want to see either of us kill ourselves. We made out ok but there was some tense moments. You can take a thick piece of pipe that will fit over the retainer disks. Cut a slice into it about a 1/2" then cut one side out of the tube were you have a lip sticking out. This will hold the pipe in place when you start pulling upwards to slide the bungie over the retainer disk. USE BABY POWDER so it will want to slide instead of rolling. Also make sure that it can't come loose from whatever you have it mounted in, these things have and will hurt people. It will take two people and the longer the pipe the better...to a point. Oh something else make sure all the edges and the face of the tube were the bungie will slide is smooth, polished would be better and rounded corners. I have two upcoming PA 20/22 projects and will buy the tool, have always borrowed one from a friend before but he loaned it out and forgot who had it and it's never come back home... The bottom line is please be careful. Al Latham Golden Age Aviation Lathrop, MO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jolly" <jollyd(at)ipns.com> Subject: Piper-List: tri-pacer > > i am based at aurora, oregon, and am rebuilding a tri-pacer...it needs bungies badly..and I have new ones to install..BUT does anyone have the tool I can borrow, or advice on installing them without the tool?..thanks in advance...jolly in aurora, or. > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jolly" <jollyd(at)ipns.com>
Subject: paperwork
Date: Oct 31, 2003
paperwork needed for a 150hp conversion in a PA22....thanks in advance! ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 31, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: All New Matronics Email List Online Chat!!!
Hi Listers! A number of Listers have been asking for some Matronics Email List online chat and NOW ITS HERE! Over the last couple of days I've set up a nifty web-based Chat site here on the Matronics systems. No special programs to download; all you need is a late model web browser like Internet Explorer or Netscape with a java plugin. I would recommend downloading the latest Java plugin if you experience any problems getting the page to come up. Here's a link to the Sun Java download website. http://java.com/en/index.jsp Look for the green box with the yellow arrow in the upper right corner. Before you bother, though, just try you browser because it'll probably just work. Each Email List on Matronics has its own "Room" and all rooms can easily be accessed from the same client. In the Email List URL Trailer at the bottom of each List message, you'll find the Link to this List's specific Chat Room. Just click on the Link, and then type in your name or email address in the User Name box. Try to use a name or email address that the other Listers know you by. You'll find me lurking around the various List chat rooms as "MattDralle". There's a couple of nifty features I'll explain right off. On the main Chat Window page after you login, you'll see a little icon with a Hammer and a Screwdriver. This is the Control Panel window. Once the Control Panel comes up, click on the "Settings" tab. Here you'll find, among other things, three check boxes to enable sound. Click all three and you'll be treated to a sound whenever someone enters or leaves the Room, or when someone sends a message. The other cool button is the one that has four little arrows pointing to each of the four corners of the button. This will rip the main Chat window from the web page and allow you to resize and move it anyway you'd like. Let's have some fun and get to know one another better using this awesome new Chat Room! To get started, just click the URL Link below for this List's specific Chat Room! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin PS - I'm working on a web link interface to the chat logfiles. Coming soon... ________________________________________________________________________________
From: RFG842(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 01, 2003
Subject: Paperwork
Have you joined the Short Wing Piper Club? They have web forums, lists of STCs, ADs, and 337s covering just about everything that has ever been done to short wing Pipers. Lots of help by a highly talented group of owners. Bob, Wichita ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 01, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: 2003 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers, During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists. The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show how much traffic the Lists generated this year alone: * 11/01/2002 - 10/31/2003 o Web server hits: 10,446,780 (870,565/mo) o Incoming Email Posts: 58,918 (4,909/mo) List-related upgrades this year have been plentiful, and List performance has substantially improved as a result. Upgrades and enhancements this year have included: * Internet Connection upgrade to a full, commercial-grade T1 Line! * New Web Server platform - Dual 3Ghz Xeon with 2Gb Ram and U320 SCSI! * Upgrade of Email Server platform - Dual 1.7 Ghz Xeon with 1Gb Ram! * All new SPAM Filtering Appliance - filters about 98% of the unwanted SPAM! * All new, web-base List Chat Room society! As you can well imagine, this year's upgrades translate into a fair amount of cash outlay on my part and this annual List Fund Raiser is the sole means by which I fund these upgrades. Unlike most of the other "list servers" on the Web these days, I have a strict *no-commercial-advertisement policy* on the Matronics Lists and associated List web sites. I was again approached by a number of vendors recently with advertising deals that have been very tempting. My commitment to providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment prevailed, however! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing exponentially every year, with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to mention the ever increasing Virus attacks. My goal with the Matronics List Service is to provide all members with a commercial-free, virus-free, and high-performance system with which the may share information, ideas, and camaraderie. The best news this year is that, with the gracious help of Andy Gold and The Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I have been able to significantly expand the lineup of fantastic Gift offers to support the List Fund Raiser! In all, there are eight awesome free gifts this year ranging from List Archive CD's to Flight Computers with qualifying Contribution levels. Those great Jeppesen Flight Bags that were so popular last year are even back! A special thanks goes out to Andy Gold again this year for his very kind and generous support of the Lists. Thanks Andy, for these great incentives!! Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made possible through YOUR thoughtful and generous support! To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with a personal check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as information on the various methods of payment. Contributions in the $20, $30, $50, $75, and $100 range are common. The Contribution web page is kind of long this year with the details of each of the gifts, so please scroll all the way down! SSL Secure Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contributions I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this year! Your Contributions truly make it all possible!! Thank you!! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 05, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Fund Raiser - Wow, Have You Seen The Free Gifts?
Dear Listers, The List Fund Raiser is going well so far this year and I wanted to say "Thank You" to everyone that has made a Contribution already this year! Though the generous support of Andy Gold and the Builders Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), I'm able to offer some truly awesome gifts with qualifying Contributions this year. There's quite a line up and a rather diverse set of options - certainly something for every taste and personality. Here's a list of this year's fine options: * List Archive CD * Aircraft Builder's Log * Pilot Flashlight System * Pro Pilot Logbook * FAR/AIM on CD * Jeppesen Flight Bag * Aviation History Book * Techstar Flight Computer Please support your Email List Community AND pick up a really slick Gift at the same time! The SSL Secure Contribution web site can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/contributions Once again, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously supported the continued operation and upgrade of the Lists Services here on the Matronics servers!! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Lenleg(at)aol.com
Date: Nov 06, 2003
Subject: Instruments for Sale
beech-list(at)matronics.com, cessna-list(at)matronics.com, homebuilt-list(at)matronics.com, kr-list(at)matronics.com, piper-list(at)matronics.com, warbird-list(at)matronics.com I have the following for sale: RC Allen Electric Attitude Indicator, 14V, 8 degree tilt, 75hrs RC Allen Electric Directional Gyro, 14V, 150 hrs Both instruments are still in my RV-8A panel and flying. Have been flying the instruments 1 year. Working perfectly. Each list for $1895. Make offer direct to: lenleg(at)aol.com Len Leggette, RV-8A Greensboro, NC N910LL ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Jolly" <jollyd(at)ipns.com>
Subject: brakes
Date: Nov 09, 2003
I have a set of drum brakes and wheels, for sale off a PA22..503-678-3343 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 10, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: WLAS...
Dear Listers, Below are some of the nice things people have been saying about the Lists in that little message box on the Contribution form! Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!! If you haven't yet shown your support for these Lists, won't you take a moment and make your Contribution today? The Matronics Lists are always Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, and High-performance and its your direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that enables all of these valuable services you've come to expect. Thank you for your Contribution!! SSL Secure Web Site - http://www.matronics.com/contribution Matt Dralle EMail List Administrator ================================================================ =================== What Listers Are Saying ==================== ================================================================ You provide a service to us kit builders that cannot be measured. -Clifford M. ...great service to the aviation community. -Curt R. Thanks for being there - your List has really been of help. -Thomas R. Your lists have been most helpful to my RV-9A project. -Dean V. ...has been a great help to me. -Jim N. ..."must-have" for RV builders and pilots. -Douglas W. I find something every day on the List that helps me in my project. -Ron P. ...very valuable! -Patrick L. Don't know that I could have persevered and succeeded without the List. -Curt R. ...service continues to be awesome and is one of the most helpful resources for homebuilding that I have ever found. -Jim H. The information and hours of entertainment many of us derive from the Lists is priceless. -Chris R. I learn a lot about my [aircraft] through the Lists... - Lee P. Great source of education and entertainment. Love it!!! -Lar B. Great List & very well organized. -Peter D. I couldn't build my [airplane] without this List. -William G. The List is an important part of my daily routine. -Roger H. ...incredible resource. -Ron P. Excellent facility. -David M. ...unmatched service to all builders and flyers. -Ralph C. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 14, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year?
Dear Listers, I was thinking that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List Services here provide a far better experience than the commercial equivalents. I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage members to support the Lists. I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot* receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the Archive Search times. Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion, is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical email thread. I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of messages on line for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous v*ruses. I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where also building RVs. It has grown into over 40 different aviation-related Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 10,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards well over 90,000,000 (yes, that 90 MILLION) email messages to subscribers each year! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free. I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual List Fund Raiser! ----------------------------------------------- The SSL Secure Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution ----------------------------------------------- Thank you, Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 28, 2003
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: What Listers Are Saying III
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From: JNice51355(at)aol.com
Date: Dec 28, 2003
Subject: Alternator Belt
Folks Having a bit of trouble with the alternator belt on my PA28-140. It has an Electrodelta(Chrysler) alternator and an 0320E2A. The belt says F4340 37B19774-341 1:N:12:2. As far as I can tell, it is a stock alternator belt for this engine/alternator, but it is shorter than I'd like. When properly adjusted, I have essentially no more room left to adjust the belt. The belt is not very old, and should not have stretched that much, so I am thinking that I should try to find a belt that is the same style, but is an inch or so shorter. Of course, I can order one, but the Lycoming rep is on holiday break, and none of the suppliers know anything about these belts, just their part numbers. Anybody familiar with the proper part number?? Thanks Jim Nice WA State ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JNice51355(at)aol.com
Date: Jan 18, 2004
Subject: Parts Advice
Folks I am looking for advice dealing with the shimmy dampener on a PA28-140. First off, what is the proper test procedure for the shimmy dampener? I have the "old" style dampener presently. Secondly, what is the part number for the "new" shimmy dampener? AND since I've heard that the new one is "rebuildable" whereas the old one is not, What is a good source for both the new style shimmy dampener and the kit with which you would rebuild it?? I am just getting a bit of shimmy at certain speeds. Not too bad so far, but I want to keep an eye on this. I have new balanced tires on the mains, and have just shimmed and adjusted the mlg torque links, and this has improved smoothness as long as the nose is off the ground. Thanks Jim Nice WA State ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Mar 03, 2004
DNA: not not archive
Subject: [PLEASE READ] Virus Laden Spam Purports To Be From Matronics...
Dear Listers, First let me say that I normally don't condone the sharing of warnings about Internet viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. I don't want to start a storm of discussion regarding computer viruses on the Lists, so please just note the information below and refrain from commenting to the List. The circumstances I describe below are disturbing enough that I felt an explanation is necessary. That being said... There is a new email-bourne virus running rampant on the Internet that is cleverly disguising itself as legitimate email warning of such things as: "your email account is disabled because of unauthorized access" "Some of our clients complained about the spam (negative e-mail content) outgoing from your e-mail account" "Probably, you have been infected by a proxy-relay trojan server. In order to keep your computer safe, follow the instructions." "Our main mailing server will be temporary unavailable for next two days, to continue receiving mail in these days you have to configure our free auto-forwarding service." All of these messages include an attachment that you are instructed to click upon to "Get more information", "clean the virus from your system", or "check your system for infections". These enclosures all contain a virus that will infect your system and propagate even more copies of the original message. The disturbing part of these messages is that they appear to be coming from very legitimate addresses and have very legitimate, convincing dialog. For example, I have received a number of them today that appear to be from "support(at)matronics.com", "management(at)matronics.com", "administration(at)matronics.com", and "staff(at)matronics.com". The text of the messages seems believable enough, and given the forged source address, seem even more legitimate. Please be assured that no one at Matronics.com will be sending you these kinds of messages. If you receive one, it is a spam/virus that has forged headers and was sent to you from someone other than Matronics. Delete the message and the attachment promptly. Invest in a copy of Norton Antivirus and keep the definitions up dated on a daily basis. Again, I want to stress that I *DO NOT* want a big discussion of viruses on the Matronics Email Lists. Please do not reply to this email with any comments. You may write to me directly at dralle(at)matronics.com if you wish, but do not include the List. Since many of these appear to come from matronics.com, I wanted to assure everyone that Matronics wasn't the real source of these messages. Let's be careful out there and keep those virus definitions up to date! Today alone, the Matronics spam filter and virus blocking appliance has filtered out 11,550 spam messages and 375 viruses! That's just in an 18 hour period! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Santa Maria CA Fly-In (April 30-May 2)
Date: Mar 28, 2004
Hello everyone! With Matt Dralle's blessing (thank you, Matt!), I'm pleased to post this announcement for a terrific aviation fly-in weekend. SMXgig (in Santa Maria, CA) has become the year's largest face-to-face get-together of electronically networked aviators. We hope you'll plan to attend because we expect this year's gig to be the best ever. People come from all over the country (and sometimes overseas) to attend, and most of the sessions qualify for FAA Wings cards. The dates are 4/30-5/2/04 (Friday-Sunday) - it's a lot of fun, and a great chance for pilots from all over to mingle and share aviation stories, ideas, etc. The announcement below contains most of the crucial information, and you can get the rest from the website (www.smxgig.org). If you have any questions at all, just let me know, and thanks! ~~Cory Emberson KHWD >>> NOTICE TO AIRMEN! <<< Announcing the Sixteenth Annual SMXgig to be held on April 30 - May 2, 2004 at the Radisson on the Santa Maria (CA) Airport (aka SMX) www.smxgig.org SMXgig will be April 30 - May 2, 2004, at the Santa Maria Radisson. This year, our featured speaker after Friday night's dinner will be Rod Machado! "MACH 2 WITH MACHADO" is the byline Rod Machado has earned for his rapid fire delivery at his lively safety seminars and keynote speeches. His programs are information-packed, energetic, and humorous. He has spoken in all fifty of the United States and in Europe sharing his fresh approach to aviation education. If you can make it, please do. It's going to be pretty special. More information and the announcement/ registration info is available at www.smxgig.org You may also contact me by email at: cory(at)smxgig.org. All technical sessions will be held in the Enterprise Ballroom at the SMX Radisson. Each session will last about an hour. We schedule four tech sessions on Saturday morning, and four on Sunday morning. Most of the speakers are set (I'm still firming up a couple of slots - I'm working on a session about Experimentals): MIKE BUSCH - The Art and Science of Troubleshooting Your A frequently, that person is you. That's particularly true of problems that occur only in-flight and/or are intermittent. This session offers methodology for troubleshooting aimed at aircraft owners who aren't A&Ps. ED WILLIAMS - GPS - How It Works, and How to Work It Ed is a nuclear physicist working at Lawrence Livermore Labs. Ed does a remarkable job of making physics phun! BRENT BLUE, M.D. - Pilot Medicals: How to Avoid Problems with the FAA Brent is an AME Advocate, who specializes in helping the tough cases renew their medicals. He's a former member of EAA's medical advisory committee. DOUG RITTER - Equipping Yourself To Survive - Personal Survival Gear for Pilots Doug is a survival evangelist, personally driven to help pilots live through whatever comes next. www.equipped.org PAUL MILLNER - The Future of Avgas Paul works with ChevronTexaco, and is right in the middle of the industry developments regarding our fuel of choice. MARY DUFFY & UWE LEMKE - Flying in Europe Mary and Uwe are a Scot and a German who live in the San Francisco Bay Area, but return "home" often. As always, each qualifying session will get you a WINGS Safety Session card. Our Saturday evening event should be a delicious one! At 5:45 p.m., the BFUB (Big Fat Ugly Bus) will arrive at the Santa Maria Radisson to bring us to the Far Western Tavern for dinner in beautiful Guadalupe (www.farwesterntavern.com). DOLLARS AND CENTS Just as in previous years, there will be one flat all-encompassing "gig" fee that covers all events that involve significant out-of-pocket costs for the organizers. The fee is $160 per person, and will cover: - Friday afternoon welcome party - Friday evening dinner banquet - Saturday and Sunday tech sessions - Saturday afternoon lunch - Saturday evening dinner at the Far Western Tavern in Guadalupe - Meeting rooms and coffee service at the Santa Maria Radisson - Transportation to (and from) the Far Western Tavern Lodging at the SMX Radisson will cost $89.00/night for either a single or double room, which is far below the regular hotel room rate. Be sure you check in as a SMXgig attendee and get the special rate. We have our definitive preference listed with the hotel for rampside rooms - early registration can only help, but of course, the rampside rooms are subject to availability depending on how many existing guests are in those rooms. You do not need to register with the hotel - just give me your preferences, and I will take care of the reservations. Important: This year, our final rooming lists are due to the hotel on April 11, 2004 (the even of Sun 'n Fun), which will guarantee space and the group rate. The hotel will accept additional room reservations after that, on a space- and rate-available basis. They will try their best to accommodate us after that date, but the hotel is already sold out for the weekend. The website (www.smxgig.org) has detailed information about the schedule, meals, hotel accommodations, and online registration. If you'd like your own announcement/registration emailed to you, or have any other questions, just let me know. (cory(at)smxgig.org or bootless(at)earthlink.net ). Thanks, and see you there! best, Cory Emberson ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Peter Edwards <pedwards(at)nbnet.nb.ca>
Subject: Apple MOSX
Date: May 06, 2004
Here is the site http://www.appleinsider.com/ Dad ________________________________________________________________________________
From: Russell Johnson <entec1(at)pld.com>
Subject: You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage!
Date: - - - , 20-
Dear Customer! You`ve got 1 VoiceMessage from voicemessage.com website! You can listen your Virtual VoiceMessage at the following link: http://virt.voicemessage.com/index.listen.php2=35affv or by clicking the attached link. Send VoiceMessage! Try our new virtual VoiceMessage Empire! Best regards: SNAF.Team (R). ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 05, 2004
From: Land Shorter <landshorter2(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: New product announcement: affordable VG's
Hey folks, I double checked and Matt Dralle's earlier post says it's OK to post about new aviation products as long as the message doesn't come off as having a "flavor" of "traditional spam". Don't worry I'm not going to try to sell you anything that supposedly makes any of your body parts larger (or smaller) and this product is directly aviation related :) I'm just an airplane builder, owner, pilot, and aviation nut who wants to tell you where you can find more information about a great new product. I've been selling kits of vortex generators (VG's) for only $95 and my customers are telling me they really like the performance gains they're seeing. VG's are great for reducing stall speeds and allow you to land slower, shorter, and safer. I invite you to check out my site at www.landshorter.com and see what you think. My VG's can be quickly installed for testing using removable double-stick tape and come with a 100% money-back guarantee so why not try them out on your plane? You'll be really glad you did :) Thanks and let's keep 'em flying! Joa Harrison The VG Guy www.landshorter.com 1-877-272-1414 (toll free) --------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "A. G. Plumley, Inc." <aplumley(at)icongrp.com>
Subject: lower cowling for a PA28-235
Date: Oct 22, 2004
I am looking for a lower cowling for a 1969 Cherokee PA28-235. I think the part number is 65070-006. I would consider a repairable, damaged cowling. Old one was damaged from an engine fire. Thanks, Al Plumley reply to aplumley(at)icongrp.com ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Oct 22, 2004
From: nicholas marnierakis <dfsnm(at)yahoo.com>
Hi all, I am looking for the left flap for a 1972 Aztec P/N 17100-000 Thank you Nicholas ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Nov 27, 2004
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Lister Comments - Please Support The Lists
Dear Listers, Wow! People have been including some very nice comments along with their Contributions lately! I've included another set of below and will send another set in a couple of days. Guys, I really appreciate your kind words and support. In the last few days, the contributions have really started to come in and its looking like support this year may slightly surpass last year's. There's still a few days left in this year's Fund Raiser, so if you've been waiting until the last minute to make your Contribution, now's the time! Make Your Contribution Today: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator ----------------- More of What Listers Are Saying... -------------------- Every morning 5:30 am, coffee and the "List". It's how I start my day. Robert G. The list is still my favorite aviation magazine. Roger H. Great resource, without the distraction of pop ups and ads! Douglas D. I look forward to my daily list reading almost as much as my coffee! Hal K. Great service! Aaron G. I have made some great friends, because of it! Bob D. Great resource!! Richard S. I learn something of value every time I read the messages. Stan S. Great list! Thomas E. Now that I am close to completion of my [homebuilt], I look back and wonder how I could ever have made it this far without [the Lists]. Jeff O. Outstanding site and administration. Anthony S. Great forum for our projects. Darrel M. I have become a List Addict! George M. A very helpful resource for me. Dennis K. Great for staying up on the latest. Forrest L. Valuable benefit for the users. George A. Great tool for all [builders]. Tony M. Can't tell you how much I appreciate the archives. Ken B. I really enjoy the sharing of information and the "discussions" that come up. Ross S. [The List] reminds us home builders that help is just a few clicks away. Danny W. A great resource! Christopher S. Always a pleasure to support this list! Richard W. Thanks for helping all of us build better aircraft. John P. Great list(s)for data, info and making friends. John S. [The] List has helped me much with my building process. Raimo T. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Cory Emberson" <bootless(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: Santa Maria (CA) Fly-in Weekend (April 22-24 2005) - SMXgig
Date: Dec 17, 2004
Hello everyone! With Matt Dralle's blessing (thank you, Matt!), I'm pleased to post this announcement for a terrific aviation fly-in weekend. SMXgig (in Santa Maria, CA) has become the year's largest face-to-face get-together of electronically networked aviators. We hope you'll plan to attend because we expect this year's gig to be the best ever. People come from all over the country (and sometimes overseas) to attend, and most of the sessions qualify for FAA Wings cards. The dates are April 22-24, 2005 (Friday-Sunday). It's a lot of fun, and a great chance for pilots from all over to mingle and share aviation stories, ideas, etc. I have had quite a few inquiries about SMXgig, especially from several groups, so I anticipate that it's going to fill up this year. The sessions are still being developed, but I will post an update when we have the roster of speakers and their sessions. The announcement below contains most of the crucial information, and you can get the rest from the website (www.smxgig.org). If you have any questions at all, just let me know, and thanks! ~Cory Emberson KHWD cory(at)smxgig.org >>>NOTICE TO AIRMEN<<< The Seventeenth Annual SMXgig April 22-24, 2005 PRE-REGISTRATION SMXgig 2005 will be held from April 22-24, 2005, at the Santa Maria, CA, Radisson, right on the airport ramp. Because of the anticipated demand, we'll start registration soon, and are now taking pre-registration reservations with a small ($50 per person) deposit. The deposit may be paid by check, PayPal, and all major credit cards. Of course, if the unexpected occurs and you're not able to make SMXgig after all (sniff!), your deposit will be fully refundable within the refund window (usually about two weeks before the gig). Your pre-registration and deposit will guarantee your SMXgig reservation. As soon as I have the rest of the program finalized, we'll start the regular registration process. If you believe you can make it, please reserve your spot with this pre-registration form. First come, first served! The hotel is otherwise sold out during that weekend, so it will be nice to know you've got a place in line. You do *not* need to register with the hotel - just give me your preferences, and I will take care of the reservations. SUPERSONIC SURVIVOR Hanging in the straps of his parachute and feeling the cold night air on his face, Brian Udell felt as if a freight train had collided with his body. As he struggled to inflate his life preserver before plunging into the icy waters of the Atlantic Ocean, he realized it had shredded with the force of the supersonic windblast. With his teeth and one functioning arm, Brian feverishly retrieved a one-man life raft that hung from a fifteen-foot lanyard off his right hip only seconds before entering the water. After popping back to the surface like a bobber on a fishing line, the salt water made him painfully aware of the open wounds, cuts, and scrapes that were strewn over his broken body. The thought of blood pouring into the water inviting sharks for a late night meal motivated him to attempt to get into the partially inflated raft. As he kicked his legs, Brian's lower limbs felt as though only a thread attached them. Exhausted and unable to enter the raft, thoughts of death quickly consumed his mind. Knowing he would be unable to survive the night under the extreme conditions, Brian began to pray. The next several hours of survival and the many months of excruciating rehabilitation deliver an almost unbelievable story. Brian holds the record for surviving the highest speed ejection from a U.S. Fighter Aircraft at nearly 800 MPH. He survived four grueling hours 65 miles off the Atlantic Coast in 60-degree water, 5-foot seas, and 15 MPH winds at night. Brian's determination, perseverance, faith, and sheer will to survive is unparalleled. His story of survival, recovery, and return to the Strike Eagle is an inspiration to everyone. Brian is a very accomplished aviator. He began flying at age nine and took his first cross-country flight at age ten. Since that time he has accumulated over 4000 hours in a variety of both civil and military aircraft. He was one of only sixty candidates across the United States selected to attend the Euro-NATO Joint Jet Pilot Training program. Brian graduated number one in his class and was awarded the Air Training Command - Commanders Cup Trophy. Brian was one of the first Lieutenants selected to fly the F-15E Strike Eagle. He graduated from Strike Eagle training and received the top academic award. Brian went on to his operational unit where he became an Instructor, Mission Commander, and Air to Ground Top Gun winner. He has flown over 100 combat missions in Southwest Asia and logged nearly 2000 hours in the Strike Eagle. Brian received four Air Medals and three Aerial Achievement Medal for combat missions over the skies of Iraq. Brian's military career spanned ten years. He left the Air Force in 1999 and he is currently a pilot with Southwest Airlines. "Brian Udell kept us spellbound for 45 minutes. You could hear a pin drop, except when he made everyone laugh. The story of his four-hour ordeal was gripping and moving. He certainly won the audience." T. Karr, President Carolina Aero Club Just as in previous years, there will be one flat all-encompassing "gig" fee that covers all events that involve significant out-of-pocket costs for the organizers. The fee will be determined with the events is finalized (it should be about $170), and will cover: - Friday afternoon welcome party - Friday evening dinner banquet, featuring Capt. Brian Udell, Supersonic Survivor - Saturday and Sunday tech sessions - Saturday SMX-style BBQ lunch - Saturday evening events (to be announced) - Saturday evening movie extravaganza - Meeting rooms and coffee service at the Santa Maria Radisson - BFUB transportation to (and from) the Saturday evening event Lodging at the SMX Radisson will cost $89.00/night for either a single or double room, which is far below the regular hotel room rate. Be sure you check in as a SMXgig attendee and get the special rate. We have our definitive preference listed with the hotel for rampside rooms - early registration can only help, but of course, the rampside rooms are subject to availability depending on how many existing guests are in those rooms. >>>SMXgig 2005<<< April 22-24, 2005 ELECTRONIC PRE-REGISTRATION FORM When you send your pre-registration, receipt of your deposit will be noted, and your registration updated when the full registration process begins. The credit card information for your hotel reservation will be requested at that time. Please fill in as completely as possible and send to Cory Emberson via: 1. Email at registration(at)smxgig.org . 2. Fax at: 510.782.0415 3. Regular mail to: Cory Emberson - SMXgig 20511 Skywest Drive Hayward, CA 94541 If youre making your deposit by credit card, and dont feel comfortable emailing that information, please feel free to call me at 510.783.4410. If you get my voicemail, I will return your call. Otherwise, both regular mail or fax are safe. GENERAL INFORMATION Your name: _____________________________ Your email address: ____________________ Your daytime phone: (___) ___-____ Your evening phone: (___) ___-____ This form is: _ an original pre-registration _ an amended pre-registration _ a cancellation How confident are you of attending?: __ almost certain __ probably __ maybe Anticipated arrival date and time: ________ at about ____ Departure date and time: ________ at about ____ How are you getting to SMX?: __ Own plane, type __ N#_____ __ Hitching with_____________ __ Airline flight into_____ Number of attendees in your group: __ Names of others in your group:______________________________ HOTEL RESERVATION INFO Number of rooms: __ Number of persons: __ Special requests: __ King bed __ Queen/Queen bed __ Double/Double bed __ Smoking __ Non-smoking __ Other:____________________ Sharing room with:_____________________________ CREDIT CARD INFO: Card #__________________________ exp.______ PayPal address: bootless(at)earthlink.net ANTICIPATED EVENT ATTENDANCE Number of people in my party who I expect to attend the following events: Friday afternoon welcome party ___ Friday evening dinner banquet: __ Saturday morning technical sessions: __ Saturday lunch barbecue: __ Saturday evening event (TBD): __ Sunday morning technical sessions: __ We look forward to seeing you there! ________________________________________________________________________________
From: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
Date: Jan 07, 2005
Subject: [PLEASE READ NOW] - Addressing Upgrade At Matronics TONIGHT!
Dear Listers, Service Provider to upgrade to a larger IP subnet. I will be re-addressing all of the machines on the network including the Matronics Web Server and Matronics Email Server at that time. Name Service will be updated at that time as well and most things should work again pretty quick. There may be some bounced email for a few hours or even a day or so as the new name-to-ip-address resolutions propagate into the depths of the Internet. If you have problems posting a message to one of the Lists or get a bounced message back, please wait a couple of hours and try sending it again. Generally, access to the web site should work within 1-hour of Hopefully the transition will go smoothly and you'll hardly even notice! :-) Thanks for your patience! Matt Dralle List Administrator -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "gerald conrad" <gwcgwc(at)videotron.ca>
Subject: Wanted Garmin 196
Date: Jan 22, 2005
Wanted, a used Garmin 196 or 296. ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Doug Sapp" <rvfltd(at)televar.com>
Subject: Tripacer constant speed propeller
Date: Mar 12, 2005
Hey all you short wingers! I am cleaning out my hanger and have a VERY RARE 150 hp Piper Tripacer constant speed propeller for sale, great condition, absolutely no damage. I have the T drive, governor, and spinner, but am missing the back plate for the spinner. If interested contact me off list at 509-826-4610 Best, Doug Sapp ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Maurice Fraser" <mfraser(at)gokenora.com>
Subject: vertical stab
Date: Mar 24, 2005
Hi All Just wondering if anyone has ever came across a web site or somewhere to find dorsal fins or fins you can add to each side of the horizontal stabilizer to add more vertical stabilizer to an airplane to reduce yaw tendencies. I am asking for a friend that has a cub PA-22 and wants to look at improving the airplane. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Mar 24, 2005
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: vertical stab
He might also consider a floatplane type ventral fin. These were standard on several floated Pipers. Won't this type of mod make the plane more susceptible to groundlooping in crosswind landings? Is he sure that it is an improvement? Jim Maurice Fraser wrote: > > Hi All > > Just wondering if anyone has ever came across a web site or somewhere to > find dorsal fins or fins you can add to each side of the horizontal > stabilizer to add more vertical stabilizer to an airplane to reduce yaw > tendencies. I am asking for a friend that has a cub PA-22 and wants to look > at improving the airplane. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 16, 2005
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade...
Dear Listers, I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade. Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then please just try posting it again. Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux 7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them. I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer to it as often as you like: http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/ Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades possible! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Apr 17, 2005
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: [Please Read] Matronics Email Server Upgrade Complete!
Dear Listers, The upgrade of the Matronics Email Server can be considered complete at this time. All known issues related to the upgrade process have been resolved and email services are running normal. The Nightly Digest processing has not yet been tested and will wait for tonight's update. If you encounter any odd behavior with respect to the Matronics Email Server over the next few days, please contact me via email at dralle(at)matronics.com or if that fails try dralle(at)speakeasy.net. Thanks to everyone for being patient through this arduous process of a major system upgrade! Matt Dralle Email List Administrator At 12:37 PM 4/16/2005 Saturday, Matt Dralle wrote: >Dear Listers, > >I will be upgrading the Matronics Email Server this weekend. This >includes some hardware improvements - more memory, faster, more capable >processors - as well as a complete operating system upgrade from >scratch. I hope to have both the old system and the new system running at >the same time to minimize the actual impact of the upgrade. > >Hopefully there will be little actual downtime during the transition, but >a few posts may get lost in the shuffle. If you don't see your post show >up on the List in the normal amount of time (plus a little bit), then >please just try posting it again. > >Upgrading the Matronics Email Server operating system (from Redhat Linux >7.2 to Redhat Linux WS 4) is a sizeable undertaking and requires a great >deal of work to port all of the utilities, programs, and scripts over to >the new system. As I've already mentioned, both the old and new systems >will be on line at the same time, so interruption should be held to an >absolute minimal. You might see a couple of odd test messages during the >cut-over or other odd messages; please just ignore them. > >I have setup a new System Status Web Page that I will use to update List >Members on the current status of the email and web systems. Please refer >to it as often as you like: > > http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/ > > >Thank you for your continued support of the List Services at >Matronics! Its your yearly Contributions that make these major upgrades >possible! > >Best regards, > >Matt Dralle >Matronics Email List Administrator Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <jlundberg(at)cox.net>
Subject: Wanted-Narco Transponder Tray
Date: Jun 05, 2005
Does anyone have a Narco transponder tray to sell?? John ________________________________________________________________________________
From: <jlundberg(at)cox.net>
Subject: Amp Meter
Date: Jun 05, 2005
I have a 1967 Piper PA-32 Cherokee 6 . Does anyone have experience in replacing the ammeter with a different gauge? It does not make much sense to route all of the ammeter output thru that gauge even if you use a shunt per the AD. John N4110W ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Gow" <rgow(at)avionicsdesign.ca>
Subject: Amp Meter
Date: Jun 06, 2005
If there is a shunt then the current is not running through the gage. The current runs through the shunt. The current gage is just a voltmeter measuring the voltage drop across the shunt. Typical value is 50 mV for 100 amps. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of jlundberg(at)cox.net Subject: Piper-List: Amp Meter I have a 1967 Piper PA-32 Cherokee 6 . Does anyone have experience in replacing the ammeter with a different gauge? It does not make much sense to route all of the ammeter output thru that gauge even if you use a shunt per the AD. John N4110W ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "A. G. Plumley, Inc." <aplumley(at)icongrp.com>
Subject: 1975 Warrior Amp meter
Date: Jun 08, 2005
The amp meter needle does not give a steady indication, but rapidly moves right and left. It is very similar to feed-back from the strobe light, but is not in sync with the strobe. We changed the regulator, thinking it was a failed cut-out relay, but still has the same problem. At times it will read normally, reflecting changing loads as you add or turn off things such as the landing light, collision / panel lights, or avionics. At other times the needle goes nuts. I plan to isolate each circuit by tripping the breakers to see if I can narrow down the problem. Could a diode in the alternator cause this? I appreciate any help. Al P N32712 ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 09, 2005
From: Pascal Gosselin <pascal(at)aeroteknic.com>
Subject: Split Stobe/Beacon switch ?
I can't for the life of me find if any of the parts catalogs the part number for the split STROBE/ANT COLL switch for a 1978 Piper Arrow. We want to install the same switch on a Warrior to control Whelen wingtip and tail strobes independently. -Pascal +---------------------------+ Pascal Gosselin pascal(at)aeroteknic.com tel. (450) 676-6299 fax. (450) 676-2760 cell. (514) 298-3343 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Gow" <rgow(at)avionicsdesign.ca>
Subject: Split Stobe/Beacon switch ?
Date: Jun 09, 2005
There is an aftermarket part out there from Pulse Light (I think) that might work -----Original Message----- From: owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-piper-list-server(at)matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pascal Gosselin Subject: Piper-List: Split Stobe/Beacon switch ? I can't for the life of me find if any of the parts catalogs the part number for the split STROBE/ANT COLL switch for a 1978 Piper Arrow. We want to install the same switch on a Warrior to control Whelen wingtip and tail strobes independently. -Pascal +---------------------------+ Pascal Gosselin pascal(at)aeroteknic.com tel. (450) 676-6299 fax. (450) 676-2760 cell. (514) 298-3343 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Peter Davidson" <pdavidson(at)familynet.net>
Subject: Static wicks for Cherokee
Date: Jun 22, 2005
Does anyone know of a kit one can purchase to add static wicks to PA-28's? I've got a '72 Cherokee 180G that I'm wanting to add static wicks to. I know Piper must have manufactured some Cherokees with wicks, because I see them in the IPC. But I can't find in the maintenance manual anywhere that it talks about procedures for adding wicks. ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jun 22, 2005
From: John Grosse <grosseair(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Static wicks for Cherokee
I added static wicks to my 1968 Arrow about 15 years ago as part of the certification for an IFR loran. I ordered the drawings from Piper. I don't remember the details, but I should still have the drawings. Basically, there are two wicks on each aileron, flap and on the rudder and stabilator. Plus you need to add a grounding strap between the airframe and each of the above control surfaces. You also need to get a good bond between the wick and the aircraft which means getting down to bare metal and then painting. John Grosse Peter Davidson wrote: > >Does anyone know of a kit one can purchase to add static wicks to PA-28's? >I've got a '72 Cherokee 180G that I'm wanting to add static wicks to. I >know Piper must have manufactured some Cherokees with wicks, because I see >them in the IPC. But I can't find in the maintenance manual anywhere that >it talks about procedures for adding wicks. > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________
From: JNice51355(at)aol.com
Date: Jul 03, 2005
Subject: Re: 1975 Warrior Amp meter
In a message dated 6/8/05 6:37:58 AM Pacific Daylight Time, aplumley(at)icongrp.com writes: > The amp meter needle does not give a steady indication, but rapidly moves > right and left. It is very similar to feed-back from the strobe light, but is > not in sync with the strobe. We changed the regulator, thinking it was a > failed cut-out relay, but still has the same problem. At times it will read > normally, reflecting changing loads as you add or turn off things such as the > landing light, collision / panel lights, or avionics. At other times the > needle goes nuts. I plan to isolate each circuit by tripping the breakers to > see if I can narrow down the problem. Could a diode in the alternator cause > this? I appreciate any help. > > Al Did you ever isolate this problem? I've read material that leads me to believe that this problem is sometimes caused by one of two things. One thing to check is the field circuit breaker. Excessive resistence with age accounts for some of these problems. Another source could be a bad overvoltage relay if you are so equipped. This information was taken off of a troubleshooting page from KellyAerospace. Hope this helps. I noticed that you referred to changing the "cutout relay" so that would not be your problem. The troubleshooting page did not mention an alternator diode as a possible problem. At any rate, the cost of a field circuit breaker is nominal if it solves your problem. Jim Nice ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jul 14, 2005
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: List Digest Truncation Fixed!!
Dear Listers, I finally figured out today what was causing the occasional truncation of the daily List Digest emails. Seems that every once in a while a message would contain a single "." (period) on line all by itself. The mailers would see this and assume that this was the universal emailer signal for "end of message", and consequently wouldn't process any of the rest of the Digest message. I've put in a filter today to remove any of these sequences so we should be back in business on the Digests. Best regards, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 06, 2005
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Dear Listers, I will be taking the Matronics Web Server down for a few hours today, Tuesday September 6 2005 for a chassis upgrade. Archive browsing and searching along with subscription services will be unavailable for be processed normally during the upgrade. Please check the Matronics System Status Page for updates (although this page resides on the web server and won't be available during the upgrade): http://www.matronics.com/SystemStatus/ Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin. Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Sep 08, 2005
From: John Grosse <grosseair(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Seat Track Wear PA 28's
Is anyone aware of an acceptable alternative method of complying with AD 75-24-02 - Loose Seat Tracks - other than replacing the entire seat track? It seems like you could drill out a worn hole and press in a bushing that would bring the hole back to the right size and comply with the AD. I just hate the thought of drilling out all those rivets and screwing up my paint... not to mention the fact that Piper wants over $300 for each track. John Grosse PA28R-180 ________________________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert J. Mayer" <rjmayer1(at)adelphia.net>
Subject: '69 Arrow- parts and pre-buy in SC
Date: Dec 10, 2005
I am looking at a '69 Arrow in SC, central part of the state. I would like to know if parts are available to fix the bird in the future-especially landing gear parts. Are parts hard to get? Also- names for a good pre-buy in central So Carolina? Thanks, Rob ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Dec 10, 2005
From: John Grosse <grosseair(at)comcast.net>
Subject: Re: '69 Arrow- parts and pre-buy in SC
I've owned a 1968 Arrow since 1987 and have never had a problem getting parts. I had a mechanical problem last spring that resulted in a gear up landing. All of the parts were readily available. Not cheap, but certainly available. There are lots of these airplanes out there and that makes for a steady market for parts both used and new. John Grosse > > ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 09, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums!
Dear Listers, I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works. But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!! It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation. All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing the all of the Lists. You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register" to get you started. I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle"). This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an "avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120. You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both. Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed* to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation. I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription page. I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions. Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing back to the BBS. And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email List BBS is: http://forums.matronics.com Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics! Best regards, Matt Dralle Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________________________________________________________
Date: Jan 29, 2006
From: Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject: Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics!
Dear Listers, Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include: LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft

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