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--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Aluminum Tape is a better call than duct tape, it doesn't melt glue onto the cooler
fins requiring cleaning when you remove it. You can buy it at the Wal Mart
Aviation Dept. The Aluminum tape can be cut to fit over the fins themselves
in strips. Experiment with temps by covering the cooler partially at first, then
add more to get what you want. Where do you live? C'mon down here to Alabama,
I'll help you get some high oil temps!
Rob Ray
1400 hot weather hours RV4
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1. 10:31 AM - Re:oil temps. (Steve Mullins)
2. 10:58 AM - Re: Re:oil temps. (Arvil)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 10:31:11 AM PST US
From: "Steve Mullins"
Subject: RV4-List: RE:oil temps.
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Mullins"
For about $10 in parts I built a valve that can shut off the airflow to my
oil cooler. The valve OD is just slightly smaller than the ID of the 3 inch
scat tubing that takes air from the upper cowling to my cooler. The valve
can be opened and closed from the cockpit, and can be used to keep my oil
temps between 190-210 degrees, winter and summer, here in Missouri.
Steven D. Mullins
Associate Professor of Economics
The Breech School of Business Administration
Drury University
417.889.5609 (Home)
417.873.7299 (Office)
-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RV4-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/20/04
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1. 12:21 PM - engine temps (glennpaulwilkinson)
2. 05:13 PM - Re: engine temps (rob ray)
3. 06:21 PM - Re: engine temps (Scott Vanartsdalen)
4. 06:50 PM - > Re: Engine Temps. (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
5. 07:14 PM - Re: engine temps (Gene Smith)
6. 09:09 PM - Re: engine temps (Andy Hawes)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 12:21:31 PM PST US
From: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Subject: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Hey Guys,
I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
Glenn
N654RV @ OKZ
48 hrs of RV grins
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 05:13:13 PM PST US
From: rob ray
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
Rob Ray
glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
--> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Hey Guys,
I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
Glenn
N654RV @ OKZ
48 hrs of RV grins
---------------------------------
________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:21:10 PM PST US
From: Scott Vanartsdalen
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen
What was the fix?
rob ray wrote:--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
Rob Ray
glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
--> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Hey Guys,
I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
Glenn
N654RV @ OKZ
48 hrs of RV grins
---------------------------------
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 06:50:32 PM PST US
From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Subject: RV4-List: > Re: Engine Temps.
--> RV4-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Does your engine have a Vernatherm valve incorporated in the oil screen
housing?
If not , then the oil circulated through the oil cooler all the time. The
Vernatherm opens when the oil heats up,and lets it circulate through the
cooler,then closes when the oil cools down.
The oil could run so cool in cold weather that circulation would be
inhibited.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 07:14:29 PM PST US
From: "Gene Smith"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob ray"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
>
> Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
>
> Rob Ray
>
> glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 09:09:25 PM PST US
From: "Andy Hawes"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Andy Hawes"
Hey all -- I'm a Pitts driver but with a similar issue re: engine too cool
in the winter -- I have heard about duct tape around the oil cooler, but
has anyone actually done this? If so, how much duct tape and where exactly
do you place it?
Thanks --
Andy Hawes
Pitts S1S, Nashville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Smith"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
>
> Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rob ray"
> To:
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> >
> > Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for
a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small
holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
> >
> > Rob Ray
> >
> > glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
> the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
> >
> > Glenn
> > N654RV @ OKZ
> > 48 hrs of RV grins
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 10:58:59 AM PST US
From: Arvil
Subject: Re: RV4-List: RE:oil temps.
--> RV4-List message posted by: Arvil
Good Ida Steven
Steve Mullins wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Mullins"
>
> For about $10 in parts I built a valve that can shut off the airflow to my
> oil cooler. The valve OD is just slightly smaller than the ID of the 3 inch
> scat tubing that takes air from the upper cowling to my cooler. The valve
> can be opened and closed from the cockpit, and can be used to keep my oil
> temps between 190-210 degrees, winter and summer, here in Missouri.
>
> Steven D. Mullins
> Associate Professor of Economics
> The Breech School of Business Administration
> Drury University
> 417.889.5609 (Home)
> 417.873.7299 (Office)
>
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> [mailto:owner-rv4-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV4-List Digest
> Server
> To: RV4-List Digest List
> Subject: RV4-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 05/20/04
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>
> 1. 12:21 PM - engine temps (glennpaulwilkinson)
> 2. 05:13 PM - Re: engine temps (rob ray)
> 3. 06:21 PM - Re: engine temps (Scott Vanartsdalen)
> 4. 06:50 PM - > Re: Engine Temps. (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
> 5. 07:14 PM - Re: engine temps (Gene Smith)
> 6. 09:09 PM - Re: engine temps (Andy Hawes)
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 12:21:31 PM PST US
> From: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> Subject: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
> mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 05:13:13 PM PST US
> From: rob ray
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
>
> Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
>
> Rob Ray
>
> glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
> mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 06:21:10 PM PST US
> From: Scott Vanartsdalen
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen
>
> What was the fix?
>
> rob ray wrote:--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
>
> Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
>
> Rob Ray
>
> glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
> mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 06:50:32 PM PST US
> From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
> Subject: RV4-List: > Re: Engine Temps.
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> Does your engine have a Vernatherm valve incorporated in the oil screen
> housing?
> If not , then the oil circulated through the oil cooler all the time. The
> Vernatherm opens when the oil heats up,and lets it circulate through the
> cooler,then closes when the oil cools down.
> The oil could run so cool in cold weather that circulation would be
> inhibited.
>
> Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
> A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
> Charleston,Arkansas
> Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 07:14:29 PM PST US
> From: "Gene Smith"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
>
> Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rob ray"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> >
> > Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
> >
> > Rob Ray
> >
> > glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
> the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
> >
> > Glenn
> > N654RV @ OKZ
> > 48 hrs of RV grins
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 09:09:25 PM PST US
> From: "Andy Hawes"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Andy Hawes"
>
> Hey all -- I'm a Pitts driver but with a similar issue re: engine too cool
> in the winter -- I have heard about duct tape around the oil cooler, but
> has anyone actually done this? If so, how much duct tape and where exactly
> do you place it?
>
> Thanks --
>
> Andy Hawes
> Pitts S1S, Nashville
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Smith"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
> >
> > Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "rob ray"
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
> >
> >
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> > >
> > > Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> > finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for
> a
> > week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small
> holes
> > in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
> > >
> > > Rob Ray
> > >
> > > glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> > >
> > > Hey Guys,
> > > I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
> > the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> > damage...either short or long term?
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > N654RV @ OKZ
> > > 48 hrs of RV grins
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
FYI
Note: forwarded message attached.
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From: Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: The Heat is on...
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Beauty!
rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com> wrote:Scott, to fix the "opposite problem" (high oil
temps) I tried several fixes. First I checked my EI gauge to see if it was
accurate by placing the sender in a cup of boiling water with the system turned
on, 212F right on the money. Then I removed the vernatherm and boiled it in
water watching it open at 195 where it actually closes the hole in the oil filter
bypass valve, forcing hot oil out to the oil cooler. Mine was OK, so I went
to my local NAPA Aviation Dept and had #8 lines made to run to the cooler. These
are forklift hydraulic lines built for 6000 psi and cost less than 1/3 of
aircraft lines. The lines alone lowered my temps 10 degrees. It still wasn't
enough so I replaced my old oil cooler with a brand new 7 row Pacific Cooler (Niagra)
and moved it out front underneath the left front baffle and put a small
scoop behind it. Problem solved. I now run at 195F degrees year round at 80+F
OAT, max temp seen in climbouts of 220F. Good Luck!
Rob Ray
"been there, boiled that"
Scott Vanartsdalen <svanarts@yahoo.com> wrote:
What was the fix? I have a similar problem.
rob ray wrote:--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I finally
fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a week in the
summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes in it over
the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
Rob Ray
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
---------------------------------
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
--0-351475510-1085341600=:47103
Beauty!
rob ray smokyray@yahoo.com wrote:
Scott, to fix the "opposite problem" (high oil temps) I tried several fixes. First
I checked my EI gauge to see if it was accurate by placing the sender in a
cup of boiling water with the system turned on, 212F right on the money. Then
I removed the vernatherm and boiled it in water watching it open at 195 where
it actually closes the hole in the oil filter bypass valve, forcing hot oil out
to the oil cooler. Mine was OK, so I went to my local NAPA Aviation Dept and
had #8 lines made to run to the cooler. These are forklift hydraulic lines built
for 6000 psi and cost less than 1/3 of aircraft lines. The lines alone lowered
my temps 10 degrees. It still wasn't enough so I replaced my old oil cooler
with a brand new 7 row Pacific Cooler (Niagra) and moved it out front underneath
the left front baffle and put a small scoop behind it. Problem solved.
I now run at 195F degrees year round at 80+F OAT, max temp seen in climbouts of
220F. Good Luck!
Rob Ray
"been there, boiled that"
Scott Vanartsdalen svanarts@yahoo.com wrote:
What was the fix? I have a similar problem.
rob ray <SMOKYRAY@YAHOO.COM>wrote:-- RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I finally
fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a week in the
summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes in it over
the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
Rob Ray
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
--0-351475510-1085341600=:47103--
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--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Before you start changing a perfectly good airplane, test your gauge by dipping
the sending unit into a cup of boiling water, 212F should be the reading. Then,
as suggested by Bob Olds, check your Vernatherm the same way. You need a big
socket to get it out next oil change, don't try till you need to drain oil as
it makes a mess. Place the Vernatherm into boiling water and watch for it to
extend (open) at around 195F. You can also check it for the Lycoming AD for end
play on the nut at the end of the spring while you have it off. If it jiggles
at all, it needs replacing and they ain't cheap, about $200. Mine was fine.
Good luck!
Rob Ray
rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
Aluminum Tape is a better call than duct tape, it doesn't melt glue onto the cooler
fins requiring cleaning when you remove it. You can buy it at the Wal Mart
Aviation Dept. The Aluminum tape can be cut to fit over the fins themselves
in strips. Experiment with temps by covering the cooler partially at first, then
add more to get what you want. Where do you live? C'mon down here to Alabama,
I'll help you get some high oil temps!
Rob Ray
1400 hot weather hours RV4
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1. 10:31 AM - Re:oil temps. (Steve Mullins)
2. 10:58 AM - Re: Re:oil temps. (Arvil)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 10:31:11 AM PST US
From: "Steve Mullins"
Subject: RV4-List: RE:oil temps.
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Mullins"
For about $10 in parts I built a valve that can shut off the airflow to my
oil cooler. The valve OD is just slightly smaller than the ID of the 3 inch
scat tubing that takes air from the upper cowling to my cooler. The valve
can be opened and closed from the cockpit, and can be used to keep my oil
temps between 190-210 degrees, winter and summer, here in Missouri.
Steven D. Mullins
Associate Professor of Economics
The Breech School of Business Administration
Drury University
417.889.5609 (Home)
417.873.7299 (Office)
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Total Messages Posted Thu 05/20/04: 6
Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:21 PM - engine temps (glennpaulwilkinson)
2. 05:13 PM - Re: engine temps (rob ray)
3. 06:21 PM - Re: engine temps (Scott Vanartsdalen)
4. 06:50 PM - > Re: Engine Temps. (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
5. 07:14 PM - Re: engine temps (Gene Smith)
6. 09:09 PM - Re: engine temps (Andy Hawes)
________________________________ Message 1
_____________________________________
Time: 12:21:31 PM PST US
From: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Subject: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Hey Guys,
I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
Glenn
N654RV @ OKZ
48 hrs of RV grins
________________________________ Message 2
_____________________________________
Time: 05:13:13 PM PST US
From: rob ray
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
Rob Ray
glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
--> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Hey Guys,
I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
Glenn
N654RV @ OKZ
48 hrs of RV grins
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________________________________ Message 3
_____________________________________
Time: 06:21:10 PM PST US
From: Scott Vanartsdalen
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen
What was the fix?
rob ray wrote:--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
Rob Ray
glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
--> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
Hey Guys,
I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
Glenn
N654RV @ OKZ
48 hrs of RV grins
---------------------------------
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
When a man does all he can
though it succeeds not well,
blame not him that did it."
-- George Washington
________________________________ Message 4
_____________________________________
Time: 06:50:32 PM PST US
From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Subject: RV4-List: > Re: Engine Temps.
--> RV4-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
Does your engine have a Vernatherm valve incorporated in the oil screen
housing?
If not , then the oil circulated through the oil cooler all the time. The
Vernatherm opens when the oil heats up,and lets it circulate through the
cooler,then closes when the oil cools down.
The oil could run so cool in cold weather that circulation would be
inhibited.
Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
Charleston,Arkansas
Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
________________________________ Message 5
_____________________________________
Time: 07:14:29 PM PST US
From: "Gene Smith"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob ray"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
>
> Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
>
> Rob Ray
>
> glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
________________________________ Message 6
_____________________________________
Time: 09:09:25 PM PST US
From: "Andy Hawes"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Andy Hawes"
Hey all -- I'm a Pitts driver but with a similar issue re: engine too cool
in the winter -- I have heard about duct tape around the oil cooler, but
has anyone actually done this? If so, how much duct tape and where exactly
do you place it?
Thanks --
Andy Hawes
Pitts S1S, Nashville
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Smith"
Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
>
> Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rob ray"
> To:
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> >
> > Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for
a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small
holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
> >
> > Rob Ray
> >
> > glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
> the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
> >
> > Glenn
> > N654RV @ OKZ
> > 48 hrs of RV grins
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 10:58:59 AM PST US
From: Arvil
Subject: Re: RV4-List: RE:oil temps.
--> RV4-List message posted by: Arvil
Good Ida Steven
Steve Mullins wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Mullins"
>
> For about $10 in parts I built a valve that can shut off the airflow to my
> oil cooler. The valve OD is just slightly smaller than the ID of the 3 inch
> scat tubing that takes air from the upper cowling to my cooler. The valve
> can be opened and closed from the cockpit, and can be used to keep my oil
> temps between 190-210 degrees, winter and summer, here in Missouri.
>
> Steven D. Mullins
> Associate Professor of Economics
> The Breech School of Business Administration
> Drury University
> 417.889.5609 (Home)
> 417.873.7299 (Office)
>
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> Total Messages Posted Thu 05/20/04: 6
>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 12:21 PM - engine temps (glennpaulwilkinson)
> 2. 05:13 PM - Re: engine temps (rob ray)
> 3. 06:21 PM - Re: engine temps (Scott Vanartsdalen)
> 4. 06:50 PM - > Re: Engine Temps. (Oldsfolks@aol.com)
> 5. 07:14 PM - Re: engine temps (Gene Smith)
> 6. 09:09 PM - Re: engine temps (Andy Hawes)
>
> ________________________________ Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 12:21:31 PM PST US
> From: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> Subject: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
> mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 05:13:13 PM PST US
> From: rob ray
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
>
> Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
>
> Rob Ray
>
> glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
> mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 06:21:10 PM PST US
> From: Scott Vanartsdalen
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: Scott Vanartsdalen
>
> What was the fix?
>
> rob ray wrote:--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
>
> Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
>
> Rob Ray
>
> glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
>
> Hey Guys,
> I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in the
> mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
>
> Glenn
> N654RV @ OKZ
> 48 hrs of RV grins
>
> ---------------------------------
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> RV-4 N311SV, FLYING!!
>
> When a man does all he can
> though it succeeds not well,
> blame not him that did it."
> -- George Washington
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 06:50:32 PM PST US
> From: Oldsfolks@aol.com
> Subject: RV4-List: > Re: Engine Temps.
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: Oldsfolks@aol.com
>
> Does your engine have a Vernatherm valve incorporated in the oil screen
> housing?
> If not , then the oil circulated through the oil cooler all the time. The
> Vernatherm opens when the oil heats up,and lets it circulate through the
> cooler,then closes when the oil cools down.
> The oil could run so cool in cold weather that circulation would be
> inhibited.
>
> Bob Olds RV-4 , N1191X
> A&P , EAA Tech. Counselor
> Charleston,Arkansas
> Real Aviators Fly Taildraggers
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 07:14:29 PM PST US
> From: "Gene Smith"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
>
> Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rob ray"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> >
> > Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for a
> week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small holes
> in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
> >
> > Rob Ray
> >
> > glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> >
> > Hey Guys,
> > I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
> the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> damage...either short or long term?
> >
> > Glenn
> > N654RV @ OKZ
> > 48 hrs of RV grins
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >
> >
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
> Time: 09:09:25 PM PST US
> From: "Andy Hawes"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Andy Hawes"
>
> Hey all -- I'm a Pitts driver but with a similar issue re: engine too cool
> in the winter -- I have heard about duct tape around the oil cooler, but
> has anyone actually done this? If so, how much duct tape and where exactly
> do you place it?
>
> Thanks --
>
> Andy Hawes
> Pitts S1S, Nashville
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Smith"
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
>
> > --> RV4-List message posted by: "Gene Smith"
> >
> > Duct tape works better......................CHEERS!!!!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "rob ray"
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: RV4-List: engine temps
> >
> >
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray
> > >
> > > Lucky you, my 150HP ran over 225F oil temp for a year at cruise until I
> > finally fixed the problem. If you are really worried, move to Phoenix for
> a
> > week in the summer and see the alternative, or put a plate with small
> holes
> > in it over the cooler. Don't worry, be happy!
> > >
> > > Rob Ray
> > >
> > > glennpaulwilkinson wrote:
> > > --> RV4-List message posted by: "glennpaulwilkinson"
> > >
> > > Hey Guys,
> > > I have a -4 with an O-320-D1A, 160hp and it consistantly runs cool...in
> > the mid to upper 160 degree F range. Can this cause any engine problems or
> > damage...either short or long term?
> > >
> > > Glenn
> > > N654RV @ OKZ
> > > 48 hrs of RV grins
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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