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1. 02:08 PM - Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 07/25/05 (rob ray)
2. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 07/25/05 (lee.logan@gulfstream.com)
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| Subject: | Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 07/25/05 |
--> RV4-List message posted by: rob ray <smokyray@yahoo.com>
Steve, I test flew the Bandit out of Arvil's strip in 97. Short runways are no
big deal if you do what every professional does, practice! I routinely land and
stop my -4 on grass in 500', flying final at 75 and over the fence at 60. Light
braking/full aft stick on touchdown and you are there. Remember, always have
an out and once commited, don't waffle, fly the airplane. Practice on a longer
rwy first, then give it a try...
Rob Ray
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Total Messages Posted Mon 07/25/05: 2
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1. 10:02 AM - Short strips (Steve Sampson)
2. 09:51 PM - Re: Short strips (arvil@bellsouth.net)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 10:02:20 AM PST US
From: "Steve Sampson"
Subject: RV4-List: Short strips
--> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
Arvil - I was interested to read a post you made on the web some time ago.
" .......I have a 900 foot strip in north west fla.
that is down hill 3 drgees with 60 foot trees at the end of the runnway , using
a 50mph. approch speed again with a little power an RV-4 using manual flaps
can land in 450 feet with only a little braking and the flaps dumped at tuch
down........"
I currently fly a Supercub and an RV9A in and out of 1020' beside my home in the
UK. I am close to ordering an RV4 kit (and selling the -9A). I have been worrying
about the distance the -4 needs to land and getting conflicting messages.
Realistically what do you think it stalls at solo and gross with a trickle of
power? Also do you fly with a c/s or f/p prop. If f/p how low is the tickover?
I have to carry a couple of knots extra on approach sometimes because I have
to come between trees which give quite a bit of turbulence in the cross wind
- its better in winter when the leaves are gone. Other than the trees I have
to come between it is a good approach, but again a wall of trees at the far end.
Finally, you seemed to be giving a lot of credit to the manual flaps. Did you really
mean that or are you just pointing out that it is even better which I agree
with.
Thanks, Steve.
PS If anyone else has comments please join in.
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 09:51:37 PM PST US
From: arvil@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Short strips
--> RV4-List message posted by: arvil@bellsouth.net
Steve,
I prefer the manual flaps, but there is nothing wrong with the electric flaps they
go up and down at a good rate of travel, and some pilots prefer the elec.
flaps on the RV-4 because it gives the passenger a lot more foot room when using
the foot wells,
the main resion I prefer the manual flaps over the elec. is i can control the flaps
by feel and I dont have to worry about weather the flap motor is going to
work if Iam landing in a short strip Iam not use to.
If you are using a cruise prop it may carry a little more speed on landing but
only a little
Arvil
Steve Sampson wrote:
> --> RV4-List message posted by: "Steve Sampson"
>
> Arvil - I was interested to read a post you made on the web some time ago.
>
> " .......I have a 900 foot strip in north west fla.
> that is down hill 3 drgees with 60 foot trees at the end of the runnway , using
> a 50mph. approch speed again with a little power an RV-4 using manual flaps
> can land in 450 feet with only a little braking and the flaps dumped at tuch
> down........"
>
> I currently fly a Supercub and an RV9A in and out of 1020' beside my home in
the UK. I am close to ordering an RV4 kit (and selling the -9A). I have been worrying
about the distance the -4 needs to land and getting conflicting messages.
Realistically what do you think it stalls at solo and gross with a trickle
of power? Also do you fly with a c/s or f/p prop. If f/p how low is the tickover?
I have to carry a couple of knots extra on approach sometimes because I have
to come between trees which give quite a bit of turbulence in the cross wind
- its better in winter when the leaves are gone. Other than the trees I have
to come between it is a good approach, but again a wall of trees at the far
end.
>
> Finally, you seemed to be giving a lot of credit to the manual flaps. Did you
really mean that or are you just pointing out that it is even better which I
agree with.
>
> Thanks, Steve.
>
> PS If anyone else has comments please join in.
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV4-List Digest: 2 Msgs - 07/25/05 |
05:16:54 PM
--> RV4-List message posted by: lee.logan@gulfstream.com
Just be heads up for gusts at low approach speeds! Keep a ready throttle
hand and don't be afraid to use the engine to get out of trouble!
Lee...
Lee Logan
Director, Government Programs and Sales Support
Gulfstream Aerospace Corporation
Savannah, Georgia
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