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1. 06:33 AM - Re: wings (USAviator1@aol.com)
2. 09:39 AM - Re: wings (George Turner)
3. 09:59 AM - Re: wings (USAviator1@aol.com)
4. 01:33 PM - Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/12/03 (Bob Triplett)
5. 01:34 PM - Wings (john)
6. 04:02 PM - Earl's message (Rick and Cindy)
7. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/12/03 (Rick and Cindy)
8. 04:26 PM - Re: Earl's message (Earl Luce)
9. 07:16 PM - Exhaust Tailpipe Question (Mcculleyja@aol.com)
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: USAviator1@aol.com
Hey Farmer John, how ya doing? I am putting 1" holes in the bottom of the
wing. It gives me just enough room to get a wrench in and tighten the hinges
nuts. I know Jim C. made up his own removable covers for the holes, but I
found nice plastic white plugs that snap into place and make an almost
invisible cover.
We hope to be making a trip near you in the next few weeks. Would it be all
right to stop in and see your project again?
Steve -in Michigan
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
You can get those white plugs in many sizes at Ace Hardware. Ace is the place.
George
USAviator1@aol.com wrote:--> Tailwind-List message posted by: USAviator1@aol.com
Hey Farmer John, how ya doing? I am putting 1" holes in the bottom of the
wing. It gives me just enough room to get a wrench in and tighten the hinges
nuts. I know Jim C. made up his own removable covers for the holes, but I
found nice plastic white plugs that snap into place and make an almost
invisible cover.
We hope to be making a trip near you in the next few weeks. Would it be all
right to stop in and see your project again?
Steve -in Michigan
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: USAviator1@aol.com
Yes, sorry, I got mine at Home Depot.
Steve
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Bob Triplett <tailwind@chibardun.net>
Rick are you planning to draw up and sell a set on plans for the O & O
as you go or are you planning to build just the one plane. Bob Rice Lake WI
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> 1. 07:33 AM - Exhaust Systems (IslPilot@aol.com)
> 2. 08:19 AM - Re: Exhaust Systems (Boud Kuenen)
> 3. 12:15 PM - Re: Exhaust Systems (Davstamsta@aol.com)
> 4. 07:58 PM - wings (john)
> 5. 08:15 PM - Re: wings (George Turner)
> 6. 08:17 PM - O-O W&B (Rick and Cindy)
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>________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
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>Time: 07:33:00 AM PST US
>From: IslPilot@aol.com
>Subject: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: IslPilot@aol.com
>
>Working away on #557 for to get airworthy for this summer's activities. What
>is the preferred exhaust system for the Tailwind with a Lyc. 0-320? I see
>Vetterman advertises in the Tailwind Times. Are guys using a crossover or
>4-pipe setup?
>
>Tnx in Advance,
>
>Paul Baron
>Charlevoix, MI
>#557
>
>
>________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
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>Time: 08:19:31 AM PST US
>From: "Boud Kuenen" <bkuenen@horizonaero.com>
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Boud Kuenen" <bkuenen@horizonaero.com>
>
>Paul,
>
>I have a Vetterman on my O-320, and it is a beautiful system. Larry is a
>great guy to work with but he is "very proud of his work". I met John
>Forsling at his OSH booth last year who also does beautiful work for about
>$200 less. His address is 127887 N. Fifth Street, Parker, CO 80134:
>303-841-6054.
>I personally think it is worth the money for a stainless system, even though
>it'll cost you well over $500.
>
>Boud Kuenen
>NX888WT
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <IslPilot@aol.com>
>Subject: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
>
>
>
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>>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: IslPilot@aol.com
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>>Working away on #557 for to get airworthy for this summer's activities.
>>
>>
>What
>
>
>>is the preferred exhaust system for the Tailwind with a Lyc. 0-320? I see
>>Vetterman advertises in the Tailwind Times. Are guys using a crossover or
>>4-pipe setup?
>>
>>Tnx in Advance,
>>
>>Paul Baron
>>Charlevoix, MI
>>#557
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
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>Time: 12:15:03 PM PST US
>From: Davstamsta@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Davstamsta@aol.com
>
>Paul,
>I just received my exhaust from John Forsling. It is a work of art! He was great
>to work with and his price is quite fair.
>I ordered his 3-d kit where you get a bunch of pvc pipe and some superglue to
make
>up the tail pipe for a custom fit.
>His turnaround time was great. Also does nice heat exchangers and an air-oil seperater.
>
>David Stamsta
>Michigan - W10 N917WT
>
>
>________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
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>
>Time: 07:58:08 PM PST US
>From: "john" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
>Subject: Tailwind-List: wings
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
>
>Jim; What size holes are you putting in the bottom of the wings to install
>the nuts that hold the flap and aileron attach bolts in place? It looks
>like I should locate these before I attach the upper wing plywood. I have
>epoxyed the washers in place as you suggested. Thankyou JohnD.
>
>
>________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
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>Time: 08:15:19 PM PST US
>From: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: wings
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
>
>
>John: Jim C. is at His Airpark home, Indian Hills, Salome, Az until the fist
>of March, without email access. George....Phoenix
> john <frmrjohn@netonecom.net> wrote:--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john"
>
>
>Jim; What size holes are you putting in the bottom of the wings to install
>the nuts that hold the flap and aileron attach bolts in place? It looks
>like I should locate these before I attach the upper wing plywood. I have
>epoxyed the washers in place as you suggested. Thankyou JohnD.
>
>
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>
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>________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
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>Time: 08:17:47 PM PST US
>From: Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
>Subject: Tailwind-List: O-O W&B
>
>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
>
>Drafted a preliminary weight and balance for O-O II tonight. LOOKS LIKE
>IT'S GONNA WORK!!
>Rick
>O-O II
>N241SW
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
Thanks for the input guys on the nut covers. Been putting the west system
on the interior of the wings. Hope to have them inclosed by next weekend.
I have rooms for the guys here, at SAA, Urbana, hope you guys let me fly
the Colt if I don't get the W-10 together. Harold Chaney, another W-10
builder and I plan on attending, as well as two Mustang II builders, who are
in the EAA Chapter here. JohnD
Don't Archive.
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
Earl Luce has been trying to post a message with no luck, asked me to
post for him. He's building up two Tailwind fuselages. If anyone is
interested, give him a shout. Says they have something like 112" of snow
up there. Brrrr.
Rick
N241SW
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwind-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 02/12/03 |
--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
Bob: I'm probably going to sell plans for the O-O II. There seems to be several
people who
want them.
Rick
N241SW
Bob Triplett wrote:
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Bob Triplett <tailwind@chibardun.net>
>
> Rick are you planning to draw up and sell a set on plans for the O & O
> as you go or are you planning to build just the one plane. Bob Rice Lake WI
>
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> > Total Messages Posted Wed 02/12/03: 6
> >
> >
> >Today's Message Index:
> >----------------------
> >
> > 1. 07:33 AM - Exhaust Systems (IslPilot@aol.com)
> > 2. 08:19 AM - Re: Exhaust Systems (Boud Kuenen)
> > 3. 12:15 PM - Re: Exhaust Systems (Davstamsta@aol.com)
> > 4. 07:58 PM - wings (john)
> > 5. 08:15 PM - Re: wings (George Turner)
> > 6. 08:17 PM - O-O W&B (Rick and Cindy)
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> >Time: 07:33:00 AM PST US
> >From: IslPilot@aol.com
> >Subject: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: IslPilot@aol.com
> >
> >Working away on #557 for to get airworthy for this summer's activities. What
> >is the preferred exhaust system for the Tailwind with a Lyc. 0-320? I see
> >Vetterman advertises in the Tailwind Times. Are guys using a crossover or
> >4-pipe setup?
> >
> >Tnx in Advance,
> >
> >Paul Baron
> >Charlevoix, MI
> >#557
> >
> >
> >________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> >Time: 08:19:31 AM PST US
> >From: "Boud Kuenen" <bkuenen@horizonaero.com>
> >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Boud Kuenen" <bkuenen@horizonaero.com>
> >
> >Paul,
> >
> >I have a Vetterman on my O-320, and it is a beautiful system. Larry is a
> >great guy to work with but he is "very proud of his work". I met John
> >Forsling at his OSH booth last year who also does beautiful work for about
> >$200 less. His address is 127887 N. Fifth Street, Parker, CO 80134:
> >303-841-6054.
> >I personally think it is worth the money for a stainless system, even though
> >it'll cost you well over $500.
> >
> >Boud Kuenen
> >NX888WT
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <IslPilot@aol.com>
> >Subject: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>--> Tailwind-List message posted by: IslPilot@aol.com
> >>
> >>Working away on #557 for to get airworthy for this summer's activities.
> >>
> >>
> >What
> >
> >
> >>is the preferred exhaust system for the Tailwind with a Lyc. 0-320? I see
> >>Vetterman advertises in the Tailwind Times. Are guys using a crossover or
> >>4-pipe setup?
> >>
> >>Tnx in Advance,
> >>
> >>Paul Baron
> >>Charlevoix, MI
> >>#557
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> >Time: 12:15:03 PM PST US
> >From: Davstamsta@aol.com
> >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: Exhaust Systems
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Davstamsta@aol.com
> >
> >Paul,
> >I just received my exhaust from John Forsling. It is a work of art! He was great
> >to work with and his price is quite fair.
> >I ordered his 3-d kit where you get a bunch of pvc pipe and some superglue to
make
> >up the tail pipe for a custom fit.
> >His turnaround time was great. Also does nice heat exchangers and an air-oil
seperater.
> >
> >David Stamsta
> >Michigan - W10 N917WT
> >
> >
> >________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> >Time: 07:58:08 PM PST US
> >From: "john" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
> >Subject: Tailwind-List: wings
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john" <frmrjohn@netonecom.net>
> >
> >Jim; What size holes are you putting in the bottom of the wings to install
> >the nuts that hold the flap and aileron attach bolts in place? It looks
> >like I should locate these before I attach the upper wing plywood. I have
> >epoxyed the washers in place as you suggested. Thankyou JohnD.
> >
> >
> >________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> >Time: 08:15:19 PM PST US
> >From: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Re: Tailwind-List: wings
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: George Turner <tailwind222@yahoo.com>
> >
> >
> >John: Jim C. is at His Airpark home, Indian Hills, Salome, Az until the fist
> >of March, without email access. George....Phoenix
> > john <frmrjohn@netonecom.net> wrote:--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "john"
> >
> >
> >Jim; What size holes are you putting in the bottom of the wings to install
> >the nuts that hold the flap and aileron attach bolts in place? It looks
> >like I should locate these before I attach the upper wing plywood. I have
> >epoxyed the washers in place as you suggested. Thankyou JohnD.
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------
> >
> >
> >________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________
> >
> >
> >Time: 08:17:47 PM PST US
> >From: Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
> >Subject: Tailwind-List: O-O W&B
> >
> >--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
> >
> >Drafted a preliminary weight and balance for O-O II tonight. LOOKS LIKE
> >IT'S GONNA WORK!!
> >Rick
> >O-O II
> >N241SW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: "Earl Luce" <luceair@worldnet.att.net>
Thanks Rick!!!!!!!!
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick and Cindy" <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
Subject: Tailwind-List: Earl's message
> --> Tailwind-List message posted by: Rick and Cindy <rcaviate@ne.infi.net>
>
> Earl Luce has been trying to post a message with no luck, asked me to
> post for him. He's building up two Tailwind fuselages. If anyone is
> interested, give him a shout. Says they have something like 112" of snow
> up there. Brrrr.
> Rick
> N241SW
>
>
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--> Tailwind-List message posted by: Mcculleyja@aol.com
Does any measured temperature data or other information exist to identify how
far below the ship's belly the end of the tailpipe must be and how far ahead
of the start of the fabric it must terminate to avoid overheating the fabric?
Has anyone successfully (i.e. safely) run their tailpipe(s) essentially
parallel to the airflow below the belly to create less turbulence and to take
advantage of the available jet thrust from the exhaust gases exiting parallel
to the flight path? What are some typical measurements and angles at the
exit end of the pipes that existing installations use?
Jim McCulley
(Seeing light ahead in the tunnel)
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